Re: Cannot import packages from debian iso to apt-cacher-ng

2014-01-19 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> Then I recommend taking the easy way out. Just install one machine > using apt-cacher-ng as a proxy. Then all of the packages will be > ready for the next machine. Install the rest using the proxy and they > will use the already downloaded files. It is simple. It works. Was it so easy. How

Re: Cannot import packages from debian iso to apt-cacher-ng

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Anubhav Yadav wrote: > I installed a 32 bit Debian Wheezy on a PC (One PC in a lab of 24 computers). > I made it a dhcp PXE server with netboot images of Debian 7 32 bits. > It worked perfectly and all the 20 computers booted from network with > the debian installer. Good for you. > The only prob

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > I suggest these options. > > > > 1) Install firmware-linux-nonfree and hope it handles your hardware. > > 2) Install the latest backports kernel and drivers and firmware. > > 3) Install Squeeze which had better legacy hardware support. > > Interestin

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

2014-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 05:29:22PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > I suggest these options. > > 1) Install firmware-linux-nonfree and hope it handles your hardware. > 2) Install the latest backports kernel and drivers and firmware. > 3) Install Squeeze which had better legacy hardware support. Interes

Cannot import packages from debian iso to apt-cacher-ng

2014-01-19 Thread Anubhav Yadav
I installed a 32 bit Debian Wheezy on a PC (One PC in a lab of 24 computers). I made it a dhcp PXE server with netboot images of Debian 7 32 bits. It worked perfectly and all the 20 computers booted from network with the debian installer. The only problem was that all the packages had to be retrie

Re: Including git commands in preseed

2014-01-19 Thread Igor Cicimov
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Todd Maurice wrote: > > Hm, it seems I haven't clearly clarified what I want to do. > > > > I'm using preseed file (through "auto url=" option) to install > > Debian Jessie in a VM. > > Sounds good. Many of us do this all of the time. Works.

Re: Bug against distribution?

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Jeffrey Walton wrote: > I was missing a package when I installed Debian from a LiveDVD. I'm > trying to figure out what package to log a bug against. This sounds like a simple misunderstanding. Debian is a framework. It is the Universial Operating System. Installing Debian sets up some defaults.

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Ken Heard wrote: > My problem is the same as it has always been since December 27th, the day I > started to create an operating system in a new computer which I purchased > for use in Thailand. So far I have not been successful. It is always best to try to solve one problem at a time rather than

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/20/14, Brian wrote: > On Sat 18 Jan 2014 at 09:31:21 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > >> If this garbage OT crap ('sad but true Linux sucks', and 'Hey Humans > It is not frequent but it does occur. > It happens; you live through it. You don't need a moderator as a crutch. > Build your kill file i

Bug against distribution?

2014-01-19 Thread Jeffrey Walton
Hello, I was missing a package when I installed Debian from a LiveDVD. I'm trying to figure out what package to log a bug against. The bug appears to be against the distribution or Live DVD, but I'm not finding any suitable candidates: $ dpkg --search core | cut -d ":" -f1 | sort | uniq app-insta

Re: Including git commands in preseed

2014-01-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Todd Maurice wrote: > Hm, it seems I haven't clearly clarified what I want to do. > > I'm using preseed file (through "auto url=" option) to install > Debian Jessie in a VM. Sounds good. Many of us do this all of the time. Works. > I would like to configure preseed in such way that it accomplis

Re: Re: 2nd debian 1.2 upgrade problem: console hungry rd

2014-01-19 Thread Michael Mills
Dz Dr Sent from my iPhone -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/88481949-71f6-417a-ae40-faf2fe9a0...@icloud.com

Re: Debian logging - confused

2014-01-19 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2014-01-15 17:07:17 +0530, Kailash wrote: > /etc/rsyslog.conf defines where the various messages are logged to. > rsyslog.conf has an excellent manpage. No, the rsyslog.conf man page is out of date (last change in October 2012) and very incomplete. For instance it doesn't say anything about the

RE: Including git commands in preseed

2014-01-19 Thread Todd Maurice
Hm, it seems I haven't clearly clarified what I want to do. I'm using preseed file (through "auto url=" option) to install Debian Jessie in a VM. I would like to configure preseed in such way that it accomplishes two things. 1. It downloads a script from github (we figured out that part) 2. Sta

Re: POP3 softwares.

2014-01-19 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2014-01-19 19:02 keltezéssel, Peter Easthope írta: >> I use fetchmail for similar task. > > OK; thanks. In your application, where or how does fetchmail deliver > messages? > The documentation I've seen mentions acquisition by POP but doesn't mention > disposal. It puts the emails to the user's

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread Brian
On Sat 18 Jan 2014 at 09:31:21 -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: > If this garbage OT crap ('sad but true Linux sucks', and 'Hey Humans > I'm a machine') is typical of this list, is there a debian related > list that doesn't allow such crap to go on and on and on and on and > on and on ad nauseum? It is no

Re: Procedure? Move existing Wheezy from sda2 to md1

2014-01-19 Thread Ron Leach
On 19/01/2014 18:56, Reco wrote: On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:28:39 + Number StartEnd SizeFile system Name Flags 1 63s 2047s 1985sgrub bios_grub 2 2048s266239s 264192s boot 3 266240s 1953525134s 19199686

Re: Procedure? Move existing Wheezy from sda2 to md1

2014-01-19 Thread Reco
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 19:22:08 +0100 Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Reco a écrit : > > > > Given you're using >2Tb disks, GPT would be nessessary, and GRUB2 will > > fail to install unless you'll create special 'bios_grub' partition. > > > > I did similar thing recently, and my setup was: > > > > bios

Re: Procedure? Move existing Wheezy from sda2 to md1

2014-01-19 Thread Reco
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:28:39 + Ron Leach wrote: > May I ask a detail? Did you have to mark any partitions 'bootable'? > Actually, did you have to mark bootable partitions on either or both > disks in the RAID-1 pair? Or did you have to set any other partition > 'flags'? GNU Parted 2.3 U

Re: POP3 softwares.

2014-01-19 Thread Peter Easthope
On Sun, January 19, 2014 2:53 am, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > I use fetchmail for similar task. OK; thanks. In your application, where or how does fetchmail deliver messages? The documentation I've seen mentions acquisition by POP but doesn't mention disposal. ... P

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2014 #82

2014-01-19 Thread Edward M
On 1/19/2014 3:12 AM, k wrote: On 01/18/2014 08:26 PM, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: :-/ You guy's suck almost as much as these idiots ruining this mailing list. Now where is the real debian users list. right here, sir:-D https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailm

Re: Procedure? Move existing Wheezy from sda2 to md1

2014-01-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Reco a écrit : > > Given you're using >2Tb disks, GPT would be nessessary, and GRUB2 will > fail to install unless you'll create special 'bios_grub' partition. > > I did similar thing recently, and my setup was: > > bios_grub partition for grub2 (it failed to boot without it) - 1Mb > md0 for gru

Re: Procedure? Move existing Wheezy from sda2 to md1

2014-01-19 Thread Ron Leach
On 19/01/2014 17:57, Reco wrote: Given you're using>2Tb disks, GPT would be nessessary, and GRUB2 will fail to install unless you'll create special 'bios_grub' partition. [..] bios_grub partition for grub2 (it failed to boot without it) - 1Mb md0 for grub - 128Mb md1 as a physical volume for t

Re: Procedure? Move existing Wheezy from sda2 to md1

2014-01-19 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 16:15:31 + Ron Leach wrote: > 1. First insert the 2 3TB drives and, using the existing Wheezy, > create a raid1 array. I would create three md arrays: > md0 for Grub, 100 MB > md1 for Wheezy, 250 GB > md2 for the LV filesystem, approx 2.75 TB. Given you're using >

Procedure? Move existing Wheezy from sda2 to md1

2014-01-19 Thread Ron Leach
List, good afternoon, I am proposing to reconfigure a newly-built server and introduce 2 x 3TB drives in a raid1 configuration. Wheezy is already installed on a single 250GB drive, /dev/sda2. The 3TB raid1 will be exposed as a logical volume, which I will then need to grow. Because the mac

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Tanstaafl writes: > Which means you easily miss valuable information provided by the same > people who consistently engage in ridiculous OT nonsense. A decent MUA allows you to killfile (score down, actually) subjects, threads, or keywords. It also lets you score up (or down) selected authors. T

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-19 9:17 AM, John Hasler wrote: Tanstaafl writes: Obviously it is the enforcement that is key. Killfiles are the key. Use a modern MUA and you can easily arrange not to see anything you wish to avoid. Which means you easily miss valuable information provided by the same people

Re: update flash

2014-01-19 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:32:09 +0100 Slavko wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Sun, 19 Jan 2014 08:24:14 -0500 Celejar napísal: > > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:37:36 -0700 > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > But yes it is hard to avoid proprietary protocols. Tax forms are in > > > PDF. Videos are

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread John Hasler
Tanstaafl writes: > Obviously it is the enforcement that is key. Killfiles are the key. Use a modern MUA and you can easily arrange not to see anything you wish to avoid. > If the debian-users list had moderators that actually cared, This list has no moderators. Period. Nor does it need any.

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2014-01-18 8:53 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Imagine again if every one of those people could speak without any limitation. Or rather the only limitation is each person's own discipline. That is basically what we have here. A small number of participants without discipline. And therein lies the

Re: update flash

2014-01-19 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 19 Jan 2014 08:24:14 -0500 Celejar napísal: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:37:36 -0700 > Bob Proulx wrote: > > ... > > > But yes it is hard to avoid proprietary protocols. Tax forms are in > > PDF. Videos are in Flash, or worse Silverlight. Audio files are in > > I think we've di

Kicad and module files

2014-01-19 Thread Slavko
Hi, some days ago the Kicad was updated in testing. Today i am trying to develop one PCB, but the module (*.mod) files are missing. After i create schematic, generate netlist and go to CvPcb to assign modules i get message with title "Some files could not be found!" with list of missing *.mod file

Re: update flash

2014-01-19 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 23:37:36 -0700 Bob Proulx wrote: ... > But yes it is hard to avoid proprietary protocols. Tax forms are in > PDF. Videos are in Flash, or worse Silverlight. Audio files are in I think we've discussed this before, but is it really correct to call PDF a proprietary protocol

KONIG Smart card reader - Debian Squeeze

2014-01-19 Thread Paul Lewis
Smart card reader non responsive on Debian Squeeze? The device is recognised on the US bus, test1:/home/plewis# lsusb -s 005:003 -v Bus 005 Device 003: ID 058f:9540 Alcor Micro Corp. Device Descriptor: bLength18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 1.10 bDevice

Re: Minimizing shell access on my VPS

2014-01-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2014, 19:12:18 schrieb Bob Proulx: > Unix-like systems have been multiuser machines forever. Personally I > create accounts for people often and know that the file permissions do > their job to keep people restrictions presented. If I have files that > I don't want other pe

Re: Minimizing shell access on my VPS

2014-01-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2014, 01:23:16 schrieb Aubrey Raech: > Hey debian-user list-- > > I have a friend in another country who only uses Windows, and I wanted > to show him a programming project I've been working on. This program > only runs on GNU/Linux as of now, and is accessed through the ter

Re: POP3 softwares.

2014-01-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2014, 21:46:15 schrieb Peter Easthope: > Problem > Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a > local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and > lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. > > Candidate Solution > Let

Re: HELP want to cancel digest portion of subscription debian-user-digest

2014-01-19 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:54 PM, k wrote: > > want to stay on list but not the digest. is it possible or should I > unsubscribe first. First you insult everyone (almost understandably given the nonsensical threads of late) then you ask for help. Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-us

HELP want to cancel digest portion of subscription debian-user-digest

2014-01-19 Thread k
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Re: Can one do anything useful With an Old USB Apple Dialup Modem?

2014-01-19 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Martin McCormick, 16.01.2014: > We just switched telephone carriers and our new one has > callerID so I want to capture that information on a debian > system. > > While going through a box of older stuff, I found the > Apple usb modem my parents were using on their Mac. My father is >

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2014 #82

2014-01-19 Thread k
On 01/18/2014 08:26 PM, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: time to switch distro's if this is what passes for a mailing list in the deb world. WOW. Great job list maintainers... :-/ You guy's suck almost as much as these idiots ruining this mailing list. Now where is the real de

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2014 #82

2014-01-19 Thread k
On 01/18/2014 08:26 PM, debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: > Hi all, > > If this garbage OT crap ('sad but true Linux sucks', and 'Hey Humans > I'm a machine') is typical of this list, is there a debian related > list that doesn't allow such crap to go on and on and on and on and on

Re: POP3 softwares.

2014-01-19 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2014-01-19 06:46 keltezéssel, Peter Easthope írta: > Problem > Given a remote POP3 server which provides SSL. Also a MUA on a > local host, which retrieves by POP3 when activated by the user and > lacks SSL. Try to move messages from the server to the MUA. > > Candidate Solution > Let getmail, i

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

2014-01-19 Thread Ken Heard
On Jan 18, 2014 4:00 AM, "cletusjenkins" wrote: > For performance reasons I typically make a smallish, unencrypted root partition that only contains the OS. I did do that, plus for /boot. > After installing everything, I then go back and create encrypted filesystems for things like /home, /tmp,

Re: Connot load Wheezy in a "virgin" desktop -- FAILURE

2014-01-19 Thread Ken Heard
On Jan 18, 2014 11:32 AM, "Diogene Laerce" wrote: > I just saw your message : what is exactly your problem ? My problem is the same as it has always been since December 27th, the day I started to create an operating system in a new computer which I purchased for use in Thailand. So far I have n

Re: Debian Users list - signal to noise... is this normal?

2014-01-19 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
Le 19/01/2014 06:43, Артур Истомин a écrit : > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:31:21AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> If this garbage OT crap ('sad but true Linux sucks', and 'Hey Humans >> I'm a machine') is typical of this list, is there a debian related >> list that doesn't allow such crap