Re: How to get Dot files out of the way via shell scripts

2013-07-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 11 iul 13, 07:12:35, Wilko Fokken wrote: > > The following lines explain, what should be done in order to get the dot > files out of the way into a subdirectory. You included lots of unrelated customizations, see below. > The dot files of root go into subdir "/root/" Err, aren't they al

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/10/2013 11:03 PM, David Christensen wrote: > On 07/10/13 17:04, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> LSI HBAs are acknowledged as the most Linux compatible/friendly and >> highest performance HBAs/RAID cards available. The 9211-4i is the least >> expensive HBA in their lineup, a PCIe 2.0 x4 card w/4 ports

Re: How to get Dot files out of the way via shell scripts

2013-07-10 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 04:55:55PM +0200, ha wrote: > Thanks Ralph, I guess it would do it. > But I didn't plan to separate the conf files completely, I was hoping > for a solution more alike Wilko's (if it works). > After all we all have .config file in our home directory. > It makes sense that

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-10 Thread David Christensen
On 07/10/13 17:04, Stan Hoeppner wrote: LSI HBAs are acknowledged as the most Linux compatible/friendly and highest performance HBAs/RAID cards available. The 9211-4i is the least expensive HBA in their lineup, a PCIe 2.0 x4 card w/4 ports. Thanks for the reply. I see you still favor LSI prod

Re: Over 2.5 GB ram problem

2013-07-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Gary Roach wrote: > On 07/10/2013 02:53 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Gary Roach wrote: > >> [...] >> Now I am really confused. I have two systems; one with an Intel P4, 3GHz, >> multi-thread and one with an Intel i5-750. Both are runn

Re: Over 2.5 GB ram problem

2013-07-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/10/2013 7:03 PM, Gary Roach wrote: > Second, you are right. The i5-750 is a 64 bit processor. But the > documentation for the pae enabled kernel specifically lists all of the > Intel P series processors as compatible. Ergo, the P4 should be able to > access well over 4GB of ram. So what is wr

Re: New Gnome in Wheezy - irc

2013-07-10 Thread Michael Ayers
>Dear List - > >I would like to try another modality to try to solve this mystery. > >How do I get to and use irc #debian-mate channel  on FreeNode? > >I have never used irc befpre. > >TIA Ethan I'm not really an irc-guy, but this is what I know you, of course need a irc client I've used x

Re: New Gnome in Wheezy - irc

2013-07-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 19:23 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: > Dear List - > > I would like to try another modality to try to solve this mystery. > > How do I get to and use irc #debian-mate channel on FreeNode? > > I have never used irc befpre. > > TIA > > Ethan Ethan, Ethan *chuckle* h

Re: fglrx not working with Radon 7770 HD and kernel 3.9-1

2013-07-10 Thread David Roguin
I have the same issue. Have you found a workaround? By the way, I've recently updated the kernel and now it's not a complete freeze but is still unusable. El 25/06/2013 09:38, "Luis Bandarra" escribió: > On 24-06-2013 10:48, Max Linke wrote: > >> I still have the 3.2.0-3 kernel installed and whe

Re: PCI Express 2.0 SATA 3 host bus adapter

2013-07-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/9/2013 9:45 PM, David Christensen wrote: > On 07/09/13 07:21, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> x1, x4, or x8 slot width? > > x1 or x4. > >> Price range? > > Under $50 per SATA3 port, including cables, whatever. > >> Expected performance level? > > Comparable to current/ recent Intel desktop chipse

Re: Over 2.5 GB ram problem

2013-07-10 Thread Gary Roach
On 07/10/2013 02:53 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:47 AM, Gary Roach > wrote: On 07/09/2013 11:40 PM, Greg Madden wrote: On Tuesday 09 July 2013 13:46:05 you wrote: I just upgraded my old Intel P4 system with a 3Ghz

New Gnome in Wheezy - irc

2013-07-10 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
Dear List - I would like to try another modality to try to solve this mystery. How do I get to and use irc #debian-mate channel on FreeNode? I have never used irc befpre. TIA Ethan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: About download speed

2013-07-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 6:40 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 06:31 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > Can apt-get be configured to use bt? Does it already, and I just > > haven't noticed? > > http://wiki.debian.org/DebTorrent > And I find this tid-bit: > ISPs have created proxies, block

Re: Stock kernel not working with raid / lvm setup [SOLVED]

2013-07-10 Thread MRH
On 10/07/13 01:11, Dick William Thomas wrote: On 09/07/13 23:49, MRH wrote: For years I've been using self-build kernels (from kernel.org) for this or that reason. Recently I decided to use debian stock kernel instead. Should be so much easier and faster. Well, it did not work. I have installed

Re: About download speed

2013-07-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 06:31 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > Can apt-get be configured to use bt? Does it already, and I just > haven't noticed? http://wiki.debian.org/DebTorrent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listma

Re: Debian machine not booting

2013-07-10 Thread James Allsopp
Hi, Got the problems solved. I couldn't solve the problem by using the rescue disk, as it wouldn't let me stop the raid array. What I did was drop into the maintenance mode: mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 //This should recreate the array mdadm --detail --scan >> /etc/mdadm/mdadm.co

Re: About download speed

2013-07-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 2:43 AM, André Nunes Batista < andrenbati...@gmail.com> wrote: > Please, note that this is debian user list, not debian customer service > list. > Asia sometimes has problems with mirror configurations that tend to slime-pit certain distros in certain areas at certain time

Re: [not really solved] how to un-mute audio (was audio packages not authenticated?)

2013-07-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:58:11AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > FWIW, after installing several different mixer/controller widgets, I > > finally found one that allowed me to un-mute the output. > > > > (Top-post seems most appropriate to me

Re: How do you manage encrypted mail?

2013-07-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 02 iul 13, 15:18:54, Rob Owens wrote: > > > On my system, Mutt doesn't re-ask me for my GPG passphrase until some > timeout has been reached. 5 minutes, I think. I didn't set it like > that. It was the default. I'm not sure if that's a Mutt setting or a > GPG setting. It's a mutt sett

Re: New Gnome in Wheezy - more info

2013-07-10 Thread André Nunes Batista
Kind of a typo on the name of mate deb package, no?! Someone shall say shutthafuckup sometime, but I'm very happy using slim + openbox + tint2 + i3lock. Not that I hated gnome 3 at first, but after a while of using it, I couldn't help but feel desperate with its huge memory consumption and its unc

Re: Replacing Konqueror with iceweasel

2013-07-10 Thread Gary Roach
On 07/10/2013 10:39 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 02:33:13PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 07/09/2013 11:47 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:08:47PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 07/07/2013 01:54 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:21:31

Cron issues - apticron

2013-07-10 Thread Daniel Jochims
I've uninstalled apticron but checking my syslog im still getting: CRON[16705]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/apticron && /usr/sbin/apticron --cron) If i nano into /etc/crontab and find the command thats its issuing it and remove it, i get bombarded with a bunch of other errors. Any ideas? --

Re: how to config jre for iceweasel

2013-07-10 Thread msl09
Also, Kuppt instructions refer to the instructions in the oracle guide on installing the plugin: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/linux/linux-plugin-install.html On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Kuppt wrote: > On 2013-07-10, Long Wind wrote: > > download jre from oracle >

Re: About download speed

2013-07-10 Thread André Nunes Batista
Please, note that this is debian user list, not debian customer service list. Besides what others said, you could also try to download using bittorrent. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/ Look for you architecture and "bt" when browsing folders. -- Luther Blisset GNUPG/PGP KEY: 6722CF

Re: Replacing Konqueror with iceweasel

2013-07-10 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 02:33:13PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > On 07/09/2013 11:47 AM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > >On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 07:08:47PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > >>On 07/07/2013 01:54 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > >>>On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:21:31PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > Hi al

Re: New Gnome in Wheezy - more info

2013-07-10 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
Personally I am using on my Desktop MATE .. here's how you will installing http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download On 07/10/2013 07:31 PM, John Tate wrote: You can alter the menu options by hitting super and typing "main menu" and you will surely find it. Extensions make it pretty damn good. It

Re: iptables

2013-07-10 Thread Brian
On Wed 10 Jul 2013 at 16:51:47 +0200, ha wrote: > none of them are checked. But, anyway, it overrides if-pre.up.d settings. > perhaps this GUI doesn't like me. No, it isn't that. If the packet filtering rules in if-pre.up.d are overwritten it is because your script is run before the firestarter o

Re: Over 2.5 GB ram problem

2013-07-10 Thread Gary Roach
On 07/09/2013 11:40 PM, Greg Madden wrote: On Tuesday 09 July 2013 13:46:05 you wrote: I just upgraded my old Intel P4 system with a 3Ghz multithread (2 processors?) processor and 4 GB ram. I am running Debian Wheezy with a KDE desktop. My present kernel is Linux-3.8-1=686-pae. From reading, I

Re: New Gnome in Wheezy

2013-07-10 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
Personally I am using on my Desktop MATE .. here's how you will installing http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download On 07/10/2013 07:31 PM, John Tate wrote: You can alter the menu options by hitting super and typing "main menu" and you will surely find it. Extensions make it pretty damn good. It

Re: New Gnome in Wheezy

2013-07-10 Thread Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras
Personally I am using on my Desktop MATE .. here's how you will installing http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download On 07/10/2013 07:31 PM, John Tate wrote: > You can alter the menu options by hitting super and typing "main menu" > and you will surely find it. > > Extensions make it pretty damn goo

Re: New Gnome in Wheezy

2013-07-10 Thread John Tate
You can alter the menu options by hitting super and typing "main menu" and you will surely find it. Extensions make it pretty damn good. It takes some getting used to. You can go classic with gdm (the login screen), just select a user and there is a little dropdown in the bottom left. It is a lim

Re: New Gnome in Wheezy

2013-07-10 Thread James Allsopp
You can't. You have to install a different DE. I went for XFCE, but people rate Mate. This is a sore point for a lot of people, but that's the simple options. On 10 July 2013 16:56, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: > Dear List - > > I updated and now have the new Gnome. > > The desktop is impossib

New Gnome in Wheezy

2013-07-10 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
Dear List - I updated and now have the new Gnome. The desktop is impossible, and almost unusable. I do not have the old desktop entries, and cannot find Google Chrome. How do I get the old desktop back? Ethan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject o

Re: apt-get sources.list from debgen problems

2013-07-10 Thread André Nunes Batista
It seems to me that the problem is a typo on your sources list, where it says: deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free It should be "jessie/updates". Anyway, since jessie package list is corr

Re: Update - SOLVED

2013-07-10 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 09:31:39AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote: Dear List - I am a newbie am running version 6 [squeeze]. My update fails with the following message. I am totally confused. This probably ISN'T a failure. It looks to my like the output of "apt-listchanges". You're being pr

Re: iptables

2013-07-10 Thread ha
On 07/10/2013 04:08 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 03:58:16PM +0200, ha wrote: yes, that worked. thanks. the firestarter is the one that overwrites my iptables. I could remove it, but I simply wonder is there any other alternative. I didn't find the way to disable it through GUI

Re: Over 2.5 GB ram problem

2013-07-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 02:46:05PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > I just upgraded my old Intel P4 system with a 3Ghz multithread (2 > processors?) processor and 4 GB ram. I am running Debian Wheezy with > a KDE desktop. My present kernel is Linux-3.8-1=686-pae. From > reading, I think I need to change

Re: how to config jre for iceweasel

2013-07-10 Thread Kuppt
On 2013-07-10, Long Wind wrote: > download jre from oracle > install it, change to .mozilla/plugins > and make a symbolic link > > i use steps above to config jre for iceweasel in early Debian distro > and it work > but in wheezy it doesn't work > > When installing JRE from Oracle make a symboli

Re: iptables

2013-07-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 03:58:16PM +0200, ha wrote: > yes, that worked. thanks. > > the firestarter is the one that overwrites my iptables. > > I could remove it, but I simply wonder is there any other alternative. > I didn't find the way to disable it through GUI. > on startup it's always on, by

Re: About download speed

2013-07-10 Thread Dan Ritter
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:08:36PM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > why can't *you* request NTC to set up a Debian mirror? If you're a > customer, then they're more likely to listen to you that some random > Debian supporter! > > > On 10/07/13 11:31, Manoj Ghimire wrote: > > Hello, Greetings fro

Re: iptables

2013-07-10 Thread ha
yes, that worked. thanks. the firestarter is the one that overwrites my iptables. I could remove it, but I simply wonder is there any other alternative. I didn't find the way to disable it through GUI. on startup it's always on, by default. On 07/10/2013 01:04 PM, Jan Wideł wrote: On Jul 10,

Re: How do you manage encrypted mail?

2013-07-10 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Rob Owens" > In my experience, email encryption is has been pretty easy with the > exception of getting it to work with webmail. The other tricky thing > is > getting people to understand the concepts of how/why to trust a key > -- > things like verifying th

Re: nvidia module

2013-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:13:01AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 14:58 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 05:03:40PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > > From the package description of dkms (Dynamic Kernel Module Support > > > Framework); > > > > Then why is

Re: audio packages not authenticated?

2013-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:58:11AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > FWIW, after installing several different mixer/controller widgets, I > finally found one that allowed me to un-mute the output. > > (Top-post seems most appropriate to me here, since my "solution" doesn't > seem to fit naturally into the

(solved)Re: how to config jre for iceweasel

2013-07-10 Thread Long Wind
Thank Darac Marjal ! I take your advice. On 7/10/13, Darac Marjal wrote: > > Why not try "apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin"? Yes, it could be better > named, but I believe that's the Debian Way(tm). > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubs

Re: kernel: [drm] nouveau: fail ttm_validate

2013-07-10 Thread Stanisław Findeisen
creenshot: http://people.eisenbits.com/~stf/load/20130710-screen-distortion.png . -- http://people.eisenbits.com/~stf/ http://www.eisenbits.com/ OpenPGP: 80FC 1824 2EA4 9223 A986 DB4E 934E FEA0 F492 A63B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: how to config jre for iceweasel

2013-07-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 07:15:46AM -0400, Long Wind wrote: > download jre from oracle > install it, change to .mozilla/plugins > and make a symbolic link > > i use steps above to config jre for iceweasel in early Debian distro > and it work > but in wheezy it doesn't work Why not try "apt-get in

how to config jre for iceweasel

2013-07-10 Thread Long Wind
download jre from oracle install it, change to .mozilla/plugins and make a symbolic link i use steps above to config jre for iceweasel in early Debian distro and it work but in wheezy it doesn't work -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: iptables

2013-07-10 Thread Jan Wideł
On Jul 10, 2013, at 12:28 PM, ha wrote: > I have a rather old configuration that worked on older debain setup for > servers and desktops. > in /etc/network/if-pre.up.d I have a file that contains something like > /sbin/iptables-restore < /etc/iptables-up > Look at if-up.d directory, these scri

Re: About download speed

2013-07-10 Thread Tony van der Hoff
why can't *you* request NTC to set up a Debian mirror? If you're a customer, then they're more likely to listen to you that some random Debian supporter! On 10/07/13 11:31, Manoj Ghimire wrote: > Hello, Greetings from Nepal. > > I am Manoj Ghimire from Nepal. I am currently using Ubuntu 13.04. I

About download speed

2013-07-10 Thread Manoj Ghimire
Hello, Greetings from Nepal. I am Manoj Ghimire from Nepal. I am currently using Ubuntu 13.04. I wanted to switch to Debian so I tried to download the ISO file from your website. What I get is about 20KB/s download speed which is maximum some times I even get less that 15KB/s. Ubuntu has downlo

Re: /dev/loopX vs /dev/loop/X in Debian

2013-07-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 05:05:45PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Hi guys, using wheezy and sid here. > > Been googling a lot, wanting to know recommendations/suggestions re > /dev/loop0 and > /dev/loop/0 > (or etc variants) > > Have not been able to find a clear exposition of suggestion of if/w

iptables

2013-07-10 Thread ha
I have a rather old configuration that worked on older debain setup for servers and desktops. in /etc/network/if-pre.up.d I have a file that contains something like /sbin/iptables-restore < /etc/iptables-up however... $ iptables -L -n ...does not gives the output as expected on the other hand, i

Re: Steam game TF2 needs newer libc

2013-07-10 Thread John Tate
Well I upgraded to testing because I was getting impatient, but I will use this advise you have given me on another computer. I used wheezy when it was in testing for about six months before it was even with beta, it's far earlier days for jessie but I love to experiment anyway. It's good to be a p

Re: nvidia module

2013-07-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:58:03 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: Hello Chris, >On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 05:03:40PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: >> From the package description of dkms (Dynamic Kernel Module Support >> Framework); >Then why isn't it dkmsf? :-) -- Regards _ / ) "The b

Re: Steam game TF2 needs newer libc

2013-07-10 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 06:25:24AM +0100, John Tate wrote: > An update for steam has come out and now I can't run my favourite game TF2. > > /bin/sh: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not > found (required by > /home/john/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_64/gameoverlayrenderer.s

upgrade to testing, problems with new kernels initrd

2013-07-10 Thread John Tate
I am upgrading to testing, it does not boot. I have a striped md softraid, which is encrypted with dm crypt, which is broken into logical volumes for root home and swap. It does not get to the crypto, and tries to do the volume group first. It hangs at cryptsetup: evsm_activate is not available.

Re: nvidia module

2013-07-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 14:58 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 05:03:40PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > From the package description of dkms (Dynamic Kernel Module Support > > Framework); > > Then why isn't it dkmsf? Why is it mkdir and not md or mdir resp. why isn't m

Re: Dot files, get them out of the way

2013-07-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 22:13 -0400, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: > i would expect > > $ HOME=/mnt/music gedit > > to do what you want. And you are right :). Thank you! $ echo $HOME /home/rocketmouse $ HOME=/mnt/music gedit $ echo $HOME /home/rocketmouse $ ls -hAl /mnt/music/ | grep

Re: No sound on Wheezy with "HDA Intel PCH", ALC887-VD, MB Gygabyte Z77-DS3H

2013-07-10 Thread Borislav Sabev
Ralf Mardorf alice-dsl.net> writes: > > On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 08:36 +, Borislav Sabev wrote: > > Next step would be compiling upstream alsa or? > > I would do this for testing purpose, or build a current kernel with > current version of alsa included. > > Installing the latest ALSA on my

/dev/loopX vs /dev/loop/X in Debian

2013-07-10 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Hi guys, using wheezy and sid here. Been googling a lot, wanting to know recommendations/suggestions re /dev/loop0 and /dev/loop/0 (or etc variants) Have not been able to find a clear exposition of suggestion of if/why one or the other /dev/ layout is indicated. Clarifications appreciated. TIA

Re: Replacing Konqueror with iceweasel

2013-07-10 Thread dulev
On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 20:51:49 -0700, Peter Stoddard wrote: > On Tue, 2013-07-09 at 08:24 +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 19:08:47 -0700 > > Gary Roach wrote: > > > > > On 07/07/2013 01:54 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 12:21:31PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > >