udev rules for wheezy

2012-09-09 Thread Sharon Kimble
i'm trying to get udev rules for my usb phone, and they are ... SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ACTION=="add", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0fce:2138", SYSFS{idProduct}=="*", MODE="0777" AND SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ACTION=="add", SYSFS{idVendor}=="0fce", SYSFS{idProduct}=="*", MODE="0777" but neither work. lsusb shows .. Bus 001

Skype, Yahoo, ICQ, MSN Messenger search engine tip

2012-09-09 Thread search-im
search-im is a brand new, user contributed Skype, Yahoo, AIM, ICQ, MSN Messenger search engine community created to help messenger users connect with each other based on their profession, hobbies, and other interests(not their name). Please feel free to have a try and add yourself, your service,

Re: glibc version in Wheezy--any way to use 2.15?

2012-09-09 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:50:36AM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 19:00:33 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > > Never mind, I just checked and Sid is also running 2.13. Apparently I'd have > > to use ANOTHER DISTRO to get a glibc less than 18 months old. > > > > Really? > > > > Developers:

Re: systemd

2012-09-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Sep 07, 2012 at 04:06:08PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Kernel patches from Lennart were properly reviewed, and accepted only after > > the maintainers and subsystem maintainers approved them as an acceptable > > solution for the ge

Re: glibc version in Wheezy--any way to use 2.15?

2012-09-09 Thread Robert Wall
On 09/09/2012 02:12 PM, Carl Fink wrote: > Some non-packaged software, e.g. the BOINC client, requires a relatively > recent version of glibc. BOINC 7.0.27 migrated to wheezy about a month ago (and is thus listed on http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=boinc ). Before then, I was using the p

Re: glibc version in Wheezy--any way to use 2.15?

2012-09-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 19:00:33 -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > Never mind, I just checked and Sid is also running 2.13. Apparently I'd have > to use ANOTHER DISTRO to get a glibc less than 18 months old. > > Really? > > Developers: really? > > I gauess the only way to get an answer to the above rheto

Re: Custom SSH Authentication

2012-09-09 Thread Alex Robbins
On 09/08/2012 02:55 AM, Brian wrote: On Fri 07 Sep 2012 at 16:04:51 -0500, Alex Robbins wrote: I am also hoping to take it a step further and say that the restricted key (the one that only works at certain times) also requires that a pass phrase be provided that changes based on an arbitrary al

Re: glibc version in Wheezy--any way to use 2.15?

2012-09-09 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 05:12:35PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > Some non-packaged software, e.g. the BOINC client, requires a relatively > recent version of glibc. > > Wheezy, the latest non-unstable version of Debian, is stuck at 2.13, > released 1.5 years ago, and since it is frozen there won't be

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Weaver
On Sun, September 9, 2012 8:23 am, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Camaleón: >> > I quite much agree to the installation stuff. >> > >> > >> > >> > I put Linux on the laptop I bought with my father for my father. He >> > used Firefox and Thunderbird and some crapp

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Weaver
On Sun, September 9, 2012 1:47 pm, Doug wrote: > On 09/09/2012 03:04 AM, Weaver wrote: >> On Sat, September 8, 2012 6:33 pm, Doug wrote: >>> On 09/08/2012 09:03 PM, Weaver wrote: On Sat, September 8, 2012 8:51 am, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:37:55 -0700, Weaver wrote: > >

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Weaver
On Sun, September 9, 2012 7:43 am, Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:03:30 -0700, Weaver wrote: > >> On Sat, September 8, 2012 8:51 am, Camaleón wrote: > > (...) > The reason they don't is the install procedure. >>> >>> (...) >>> >>> I think it's not that easy. >>> >>> First, because "

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Weaver
On Sun, September 9, 2012 6:10 am, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Weaver: >> > Don't know about Debian, it's been a while since I installed that, >> > but I have installed a few others, >> > and in most cases the only things you have to input are your >> > langua

glibc version in Wheezy--any way to use 2.15?

2012-09-09 Thread Carl Fink
Some non-packaged software, e.g. the BOINC client, requires a relatively recent version of glibc. Wheezy, the latest non-unstable version of Debian, is stuck at 2.13, released 1.5 years ago, and since it is frozen there won't be a new glibc available for some undetermined amount of time probably n

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Weaver
On Sun, September 9, 2012 6:05 am, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Weaver: >> Nothing anywhere near as complex as an expert Debian install, which is >> what I prefer now. > > You compare an *expert* Debian install with a regular Windows install? No, I am saying t

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Weaver
On Sun, September 9, 2012 5:18 am, lee wrote: > "Weaver" writes: > >> But we are talking about Debian. >> Specifically partitioning/file system decision making during install. > > When else would you make such a decision if not before starting the > installation? You can't install software withou

Re: Storage server

2012-09-09 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20120909_040911, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 9/8/2012 2:53 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > I would love to learn more about those really big XFS installations and > > how there were made. I never dealt with more than about 4 TiB big XFS > > setups. > > About the only information that's sti

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Doug
On 09/09/2012 03:04 AM, Weaver wrote: On Sat, September 8, 2012 6:33 pm, Doug wrote: On 09/08/2012 09:03 PM, Weaver wrote: On Sat, September 8, 2012 8:51 am, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:37:55 -0700, Weaver wrote: I know how hard it can be to see the forest when you are too close t

Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Doug
On 09/09/2012 02:58 AM, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of different sort. Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same symptoms) Wh

Re: Custom SSH Authentication

2012-09-09 Thread Chris Davies
Alex Robbins wrote: > I am looking to set up a custom SSH authentication system. I have a several > RSA key pairs for my user, and I want to restrict ssh access based on which > key pair is being used (not based on user name). On top of that, I want > to restrict keys based on time of day. In s

Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Greg Madden
On Sunday 09 September 2012 6:47:32 am Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > > different sort.

Re: ntpd crashes.

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 13:31:16 +0200, Mauro wrote: > Hello I've two server with debian squeeze and in cluster with > heartbeat+pacemaker. > They run ntpd for time synchronize. > I've noticed some ntpd crashes in random days and random hour. Does restarting the service works? > Logs don't say why.

Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Jude DaShiell
At least on debian installers it should always be possible after language and keyboard selections have been done to drop to the main menu so that an installer can first arrange for debug logs to be saved and then do a disk integrity check before proceeding with the installation. If the disk is

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:04:00 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Camaleón: (...) >> So in brief, if you ask me if Linux is ready for the desktop I'd say >> that yes; it's people who is not ready for Linux. > > I am not even sure about this. > > There is qui

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 09 sep 12, 15:05:44, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > From what I read you can even install Debian to a fresh box by just > hitting enter all the time. I never tried this, but you have even guided > partitioning in the installer. So what? No you can't, the "Do you want to format these parti

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Camaleón: > On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:23:52 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Camaleón: > (...) > > >> > Well that just works. > >> > >> (...) > >> > >> And you know why that works? Because "you" wanted it worked, not >

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 09 September 2012 16:23:52 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Camaleón: > > > I quite much agree to the installation stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > I put Linux on the laptop I bought with my father for my father. He > > > used Firefox and Thunderbird and som

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 17:23:52 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Camaleón: (...) >> > Well that just works. >> >> (...) >> >> And you know why that works? Because "you" wanted it worked, not your >> father. Now imagine your father has to do all the job by h

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Camaleón: > > I quite much agree to the installation stuff. > > > > > > > > I put Linux on the laptop I bought with my father for my father. He > > used Firefox and Thunderbird and some crappy photo management > > software. > > > > > > > > I put KDE on it plu

Re: Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:16:47 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 04:24:00PM +, Camaleón wrote: >> >> I wonder why people is so reluctant about installing packages from the >> outside when this involves upstream projects which are well-known and >> trustworthy :-? > > It a

Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > different sort. > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:03:30 -0700, Weaver wrote: > On Sat, September 8, 2012 8:51 am, Camaleón wrote: (...) >>> The reason they don't is the install procedure. >> >> (...) >> >> I think it's not that easy. >> >> First, because "untechie" users neither have to install Windows nor >> MacOS as bot

Re: Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 16:19:17 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:24:00 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote: >> ... >> the VGA chipset is about 8 years (or so) old so don't expect >> astonishing results :-) > > I said the computer was new TO ME. I never said it was NEW. This is a > serv

Re: [Conclusion] Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 20:25:53 +, T o n g wrote: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 16:01:33 +, Camaleón wrote: > > Time to look for an all purpose editor to replace emacs. >> >> And you want to drop it just because of a problem with your settings >> not being honored? Have you report it? > > Does

Re: defoma and its font path

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:44:17 +, T o n g wrote: > It's been generations since I last play with X and defoma. Is defoma > still the recommended way of configuring TrueType fonts? I noticed that > defoma's font path is not in my Xorg. Is there any modern way to "slip" > it in without touching the

Re: Looking for an emacs replacement

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:11:04 -0500, hvw59601 wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 09:21:30 -0500, hvw59601 wrote: >> >>> lee wrote: T o n g writes: > Time to look for an all purpose editor to replace emacs. >> >> And you want to drop it just because of a problem with yo

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:59:50 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Samstag, 8. September 2012 schrieb Camaleón: (...) >> Linux is more like an intense mental activity that requires from your >> attention (and high doses of patience and interest) and not all the >> people is ready/looking for tha

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Weaver: > > Don't know about Debian, it's been a while since I installed that, > > but I have installed a few others, > > and in most cases the only things you have to input are your > > language, your keyboard, and your > > time zone. And whether you will use

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Weaver: > Nothing anywhere near as complex as an expert Debian install, which is > what I prefer now. You compare an *expert* Debian install with a regular Windows install? Not a fair comparison it seems to me. From what I read you can even install Debian to

Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread lee
Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen writes: > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > different sort. > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly same > symptoms) When starting t

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread lee
"Weaver" writes: > But we are talking about Debian. > Specifically partitioning/file system decision making during install. When else would you make such a decision if not before starting the installation? You can't install software without a place to put it. -- Debian testing amd64 -- To

Re: Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?

2012-09-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 8. September 2012 schrieb Stephen Powell: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:24:00 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote: > > ... > > the VGA chipset is about 8 years (or so) old so > > don't expect astonishing results :-) > > I said the computer was new TO ME. I never said it was NEW. > This is a serve

Re: Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?

2012-09-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 8. September 2012 schrieb Stephen Powell: > On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 13:18:43 -0400 (EDT), Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Is that chip on a graphics card? > > No, it is built into the motherboard. Is this a server board? What do you want to use it for? -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - h

Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Sep 2012 at 02:58:39 -0400, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > different sort. > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exact

Re: Storage server

2012-09-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/8/2012 2:53 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > I would love to learn more about those really big XFS installations and > how there were made. I never dealt with more than about 4 TiB big XFS > setups. About the only information that's still available is at the link below, and it lacks configu

Re: Storage server

2012-09-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/8/2012 1:10 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Freitag, 7. September 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: >> On 9/7/2012 12:42 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > […] >>> Now, the next thing: I know it's tempting to make a single >>> filesystem over all these disks. Don't. The fsck times will be >>> horrendous. Ma

Re: Storage server

2012-09-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 9/8/2012 11:49 AM, Veljko wrote: > Well, it did sound a little to complex and that is why I posted to this > list, hoping to hear some other opinions. > > 1. This machine will be used for > a) backup (backup server for several dedicated (mainly) web servers). > It will contain incremental

Re: What Version To Install On iMac?

2012-09-09 Thread T Elcor
- Original Message - From: Chris Bannister >> The usual definition is "disapproved". > I don't think "disapproved" is the correct word in that sense. "deprecated" in software means the use of some item is discouraged/disapproved and one shouldn't be using it. Whether a deprecated item

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Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Joe
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 02:58:39 -0400 Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote: > I have a new laptop HP Pavilion dv4 5162la. I have tried all night to > install linux opn it, various distributions, but all have problems, of > different sort. > Now I am trying lubuntu (12.10 beta, but tried 12.04, exactly

Re: problems installing linux on new laptop

2012-09-09 Thread Jude DaShiell
Have you tried Slackware 13.37 yet? That might work, I have an ancient Dell laptop and Slackware had no problems installing and running on that laptop. It hasn't got an especially large footprint either. --- jude Adobe fi

Re: [OT] How to redirect input/output to another console?

2012-09-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 08 sep 12, 20:10:26, Juan Sierra Pons wrote: > Hi again, > > With the byobu package you can do the same as stated by Lars or Dom as > it is based on GNU Screen > > byobu - powerful, text based window manager and shell multiplexer Further from the description: Byobu is Ubuntu's text-based

Re: Getting 3D graphics support out of my ATI Rage XL video chip?

2012-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 04:24:00PM +, Camaleón wrote: > > I wonder why people is so reluctant about installing packages from the > outside when this involves upstream projects which are well-known and > trustworthy :-? It adds another layer of unnecessary complexity. If you can do everythin

Re: Installation

2012-09-09 Thread Weaver
On Sat, September 8, 2012 6:33 pm, Doug wrote: > On 09/08/2012 09:03 PM, Weaver wrote: >> On Sat, September 8, 2012 8:51 am, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 13:37:55 -0700, Weaver wrote: >>> I know how hard it can be to see the forest when you are too close to the trees, so I tho