On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 16:19:17 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:

> On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:24:00 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
>> ...
>> the VGA chipset is about 8 years (or so) old so don't expect
>> astonishing results :-)
> 
> I said the computer was new TO ME.  I never said it was NEW. This is a
> server machine literally thrown away by a business. But it is now the
> most capable machine that I own.

No need to SHOUT. 

I understand that you knew nothing about this VGA chipset and I was 
simply showing a fact by telling you about this chipset 3D capabilities  
that are not that great.

>> And you need 3D acceleration because...?
> 
> I don't NEED it, I just WANT it.  I want it mainly because I want to run
> GNOME 3.  GNOME 3 initializes in fallback mode if the graphics chip does
> not support 3D acceleration, it seems.

Again, there's no need to SHOUT.

As you should know, GNOME 3 does not require a 3D capable VGA but "gnome-
shell". You can still use GNOME 3 with the classic desktop; that you 
don't want it is a different issue. That said I wouldn't rely that gnome-
shell can any good with a VGA chipset which is that old.

>> I will add this one:
>> 
>> http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/DriTroubleshooting
> 
> I can't seem to connect to the site right now.  I get a "503 Service
> Unavailable".  I'll try again later.

Then try later and tell us how it went.

>> I wonder why people is so reluctant about installing packages from the
>> outside when this involves upstream projects which are well-known and
>> trustworthy :-?
> 
> It's not a trust issue.  I just prefer to stick to Debian packages
> because they are likely to be better integrated with the Debian
> maintenance procedures.  For example, when using Nvidia drivers I much
> prefer to stick to Debian packages rather than download stuff directly
> from Nvidia because applying system maintenance is much less likely to
> break the driver if I use Debian packages.

And that's a valid concern 90% of the time or when the available packages 
on Debian repositories do fit to our purpose. Otherwise (which seems to 
be the acse) you have to go out or live without a specific configuration 
you need but can't get.

>> There exists this package but not sure if it's for the same purpose :-?
>> 
>>    http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xserver-xorg-video-mach64
> 
> No, that is a binary user-space X driver, which is what the X server is
> using now.  The package I was referring to apparently contained the
> source code for the mach64 kernel module, among other things.

What a pity... and good luck with your ATI.

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


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