On Sun, September 9, 2012 6:10 am, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 9. September 2012 schrieb Weaver:
>> > Don't know about Debian, it's been a while since I installed that,
>> > but I have installed a few others,
>> > and in most cases the only things you have to input are your
>> > language, your keyboard, and your
>> > time zone. And whether you will use the  system time.  (Thunderbird
>> > requires a few inputs, but
>> > they're the same in Windows.)  That doesn't seem very complicated to
>> > me. . . .
>>
>> Well, no, it isn't.
>> But we are talking about Debian.
>> Specifically partitioning/file system decision making during install.
>> Regards,
>
> So you tried expert mode and also selected manual partitioning. Then the
> installer offers you to do just that.

I'm afraid you are introducing unnecessary confusion into the situation.
What I employ has bot nothing to do with the subject.
>
> This seems like deciding to eat an apple and then complaining that it
> tastes like… an apple.

I fail to see where I am making a complaint.
I do see where I have forwarded a subject to the list for discussion.

 If you choose manual partitioning you get to do
> just that. And I love that I can do it. The last time I tried a Windows
> installer partitioning choices were so limited that I wished I had a
> Debian installer to install Windows. Also the partitioning tool within the
> Windows installer has been very cumbersome. This has been quite some time
> and they may have improved this, but still…

The Windows installer is not under discussion either.
Their is a reduced level of personal involvement in that scenario, but
there are decided reasons for that also, as previously stated.

What I am advocating is introducing some small element of information into
the installer, in order to increase the level of successful installations
in the case of newbie installs, in order to effect a greater level of
Debian market-share.

>
> Use guided partitioning and be done with it in case you do not know much
> about partitions. The Debian installer has guided partitioning with and
> without LVM since quite some time.

What is partitioning?
>
> I just don´t get what you are complaining about.

Once again, there is no complaint.
>
> Do you have any *factual* and *concrete* issues with the Debian installer?
> Anything that you could put a finger at and show it to us? Then even
> better
> show it to the Debian installer team. I think they´d like constructive,
> concrete and helpful feedback.
>
> If you just like to complain, then better do not even bother to contact
> the Debian installer team.
>
> Thats at least my advice.

....and I'm afraid it is not very helpful advice because it doesn't deal
with the subject matter in an accurate manner.
Regards,

Weaver
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