Re: jewelcase insert for 5.0.7 "Lenny" Official i386 xfce+lxde-CD

2010-12-02 Thread Doug
On 12/03/2010 02:23 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In<87r5dz4eta@ixian.com>, Eric De Mund wrote: Hello. Jewelcase insert made for myself so that the disc's SHA512 checksum and size were both right on the front, easy for me to see. Perhaps others, too, might find it useful. You know, I do

Re: jewelcase insert for 5.0.7 "Lenny" Official i386 xfce+lxde-CD

2010-12-02 Thread Doug
On 12/03/2010 02:23 AM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In<87r5dz4eta@ixian.com>, Eric De Mund wrote: Hello. Jewelcase insert made for myself so that the disc's SHA512 checksum and size were both right on the front, easy for me to see. Perhaps others, too, might find it useful. You know, I do

Re: zsync: requires a newer version.

2010-12-02 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You very much for Your time and answer, Bob: > The version in Squeeze is 0.6. It is installable on Lenny with no > changes (assuming amd64 or i386) and therefore not eligible for a > backport version. "It worked like a charm!" :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.deb

Re: jewelcase insert for 5.0.7 "Lenny" Official i386 xfce+lxde-CD

2010-12-02 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <87r5dz4eta@ixian.com>, Eric De Mund wrote: >Hello. Jewelcase insert made for myself so that the disc's SHA512 >checksum and size were both right on the front, easy for me to see. >Perhaps others, too, might find it useful. You know, I don't use these, but I do find it interesting and poten

Re: Extremely large level 1 backups with dump

2010-12-02 Thread Jochen Schulz
Peter Tenenbaum: > > Paul -- thanks for the suggestions. I guess that, since I am not using a > tape drive for backup, there's no good reason to use dump rather than rsync, > and the latter will leave me with a navigable file tree on the backup > drive. If you are going that route anyway, I sugge

Towards a working initrd.img file

2010-12-02 Thread Peter Tenenbaum
Hi again -- I've been having a problem since migrating my file system to RAID-1, which is that when I run update-initramfs, it produces an initrd.img file which doesn't work correctly; when I replace it with the initrd.img file which was constructed by the OS installer, I can boot correctly in my

Re: Extremely large level 1 backups with dump

2010-12-02 Thread Peter Tenenbaum
Paul -- thanks for the suggestions. I guess that, since I am not using a tape drive for backup, there's no good reason to use dump rather than rsync, and the latter will leave me with a navigable file tree on the backup drive. This is what I use at work to back up /home/ptenenbaum (at the suggest

jewelcase insert for 5.0.7 "Lenny" Official i386 xfce+lxde-CD

2010-12-02 Thread Eric De Mund
All, Hello. Jewelcase insert made for myself so that the disc's SHA512 checksum and size were both right on the front, easy for me to see. Perhaps others, too, might find it useful. Text on cover reads: --- Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Ability to write to CD-R went away?

2010-12-02 Thread lbmlist
Thanks, I was careless in typing. I'm using 2.6.32-5 not 2.6.35 Louis On Thu, 2 Dec 2010, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Thu, 02 Dec 2010, lbml...@hethcote.com wrote: of the backup routine I've used for several years.) I have logs of the test runs, and there is a difference in the wod

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Re: Ability to write to CD-R went away?

2010-12-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010, lbml...@hethcote.com wrote: > of the backup routine I've used for several years.) I have logs of > the test runs, and there is a difference in the wodim output between > the 2.6.26 and 2.6.35 runs. Report a bug against the kernel. > The difference in Version of 0 versus 5 is

gifts %--)

2010-12-02 Thread Pirkka Jokela
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Ability to write to CD-R went away?

2010-12-02 Thread lbmlist
Hi all, I have a problem that is causing me difficulty debugging and/or deciding where to send a bug report. Under lenny with 2.6.26-2-amd64 I can write both CD-R and CD-RW media on the Pioneer and Plextor drives on my system. Upgraded to squeeze and 2.6.32-5-amd64 and I can no longer write

Re: Intel video problems

2010-12-02 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 18:54:23 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:41:42 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > I have been having problems with slowness moving windows around on my > > Debian Sid installation. > > The video is Intel8286

Re: acroread trouble on Sqeeze

2010-12-02 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 09:48:16 +0100 Andreas Weber wrote: > On 2010-11-30 13:48, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > > Any idea ? > > Try evince? It even works great and simple without fuss on my M$ box. If we're looking for Acroread replacements, I suggest also trying MuPDF. I've been using Evince for years

Re: [OT] Making CPU fans spin [was: Re: Seeking advice...]

2010-12-02 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 05:00:19 -0500 Doug wrote: ... > WD-40 is really not a lubricant, altho it tends to free up some lubes. > WD-40 is very fine kerosene! WD-40 does contain lubricants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40 Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom a

Re: [OT] Making CPU fans spin [was: Re: Seeking advice...]

2010-12-02 Thread david reuter
2010/12/2, Mike McClain : > On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 11:49:55PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Mi, 01 dec 10, 08:18:27, PETER EASTHOPE wrote: >> > >> > Advisable to replace the fan before other components have heat >> > damage. Repair is an option too. If the fan has ball bearings, >> > they c

Re: [OT] Making CPU fans spin [was: Re: Seeking advice...]

2010-12-02 Thread Mike McClain
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 11:49:55PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mi, 01 dec 10, 08:18:27, PETER EASTHOPE wrote: > > > > Advisable to replace the fan before other components have heat > > damage. Repair is an option too. If the fan has ball bearings, > > they can be replaced. Bearing vendo

To make use of rtorrent with torrent-proxies.

2010-12-02 Thread Sthu Deus
Good day. How I can use torrent proxy by a rtorrent client - when its ports are blocked? That's what I set in version 0.7.9-2.2 .rtorrent.rc file: http_proxy = 75.191.174.18:6724 but without luck. Thank You for Your time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Re: zsync: requires a newer version.

2010-12-02 Thread Bob Proulx
Sthu Deus wrote: > unrecognised tag MTime - you need a newer version of zsync. > I have stable and backports. There is no newer version than the one I > have - 0.5-1. > > Is there a way I can bypass the problem - or it is a security risk? The version in Squeeze is 0.6. It is installable on Lenny

Re: Intel video problems

2010-12-02 Thread Jochen Schulz
Frank McCormick: > > The video is Intel82865...a couple of years old. I read something about old intel chips not being that well supported anymore since the switch to KMS. Do you have KMS enabled (on a recent kernel: not disabled)? > I have reconfigured X and ran it with the new xorg.conf. I w

Re: Squeeze Release ?

2010-12-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Jo, 02 dec 10, 11:38:27, GoOSSBears wrote: > * Subject: Re: Squeeze Release ? > * From: Ken Heard > * Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:36:37 -0500 > Brent Clark wrote: > > Does anyone know if Squeeze is going be Frozen in December or > > know of anything for that matter. > > No announcement of a fre

zsync: requires a newer version.

2010-12-02 Thread Sthu Deus
Good day. I have the following problem: $ /usr/bin/zsync http://mirror.yandex.ru/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/10.10/release/ubuntu-10.10-dvd-i386.iso.zsync 100.0% 3.2 kBps DONE unrecognised tag MTime - you need a newer version of zsync. I have stable and backports. There is no n

Re: Squeeze Release ?

2010-12-02 Thread GoOSSBears
* Subject: Re: Squeeze Release ? * From: Ken Heard * Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 13:36:37 -0500 Brent Clark wrote: > Does anyone know if Squeeze is going be Frozen in December or > know of anything for that matter. No announcement of a freeze yet, but read the following: -

Re: Intel video problems

2010-12-02 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:41:42 -0500, Frank McCormick wrote: > I have been having problems with slowness moving windows around on my > Debian Sid installation. > The video is Intel82865...a couple of years old. I have reconfigured X > and ran it with the new xorg.conf. > > It's located at http://pa

Intel video problems

2010-12-02 Thread Frank McCormick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have been having problems with slowness moving windows around on my Debian Sid installation. The video is Intel82865...a couple of years old. I have reconfigured X and ran it with the new xorg.conf. It's located at http://pastebin.ca/2008738 The

Re: CIFS mount (error -11) - Unable to access the Windows shares

2010-12-02 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 20:51:05 -0200, Renato S. Yamane wrote: > [Please, let me in cc because I´m not subscribed on this mailing list] Done. > Since last week I can´t access the Windows shares anymore. > > I´m using Debian Squeeze and smb4k 0.10.7 (I already try mount it with > command line, but

Re: need help on recovering Windows partition

2010-12-02 Thread deloptes
Long Wind wrote: > Windows XP and etch still can't access them! > I have done no thing wrong you have deleted them - created new partitions and saved the setup. Do you think it's fine? Finding the data is coincidence because you have created partitions with same sizes, still you have corrupted

Re: Laptop producing more heat in Linux

2010-12-02 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 12/02/2010 10:11 AM, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > A good starting point for decreasing power consumption with linux is > www.lesswatts.org I was just going to mention that, so I WILL give that a +1 !!! powertop.. used it long ago with good results. http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/powertop/down

Re: Bad Marshal Data Error

2010-12-02 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:03:10 +0200, David Baron wrote: > Testing out an HP F2480 "all-in-one." Attempts to scan get to the end > and then it fails to save the file with a "bad marshal data FIL" error. > > What is this? How to fix it? H, my nonexistent crystal ball says: "not enough data" :-)

Re: jpg2pdf :-)

2010-12-02 Thread Chris Davies
Pol Hallen wrote: > #!/bin/sh > convert "$1" "${1/.jpg/.pdf}" > Now, I'd like convert any files to pdf (like png, txt, etc.) but I > don't how do. CUPS has a PDF printer, so I can (for example) "lpr -P pdf /tmp/stuff.txt". I'm not particularly suggesting you use CUPS for this conversion, but you

Re: [OT] Making CPU fans spin [was: Re: Seeking advice...]

2010-12-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010, Andrei Popescu wrote: > This is the first thing to do as soon as I have "my" Debian running on > the "other" machine ;) Is WD40 suitable for such fans? No. WD40 is never suitable for bearing lubrication. > (In case someone is wondering, I'm talking about FRU 42W2780 for > T

Bad Marshal Data Error

2010-12-02 Thread David Baron
Testing out an HP F2480 "all-in-one." Attempts to scan get to the end and then it fails to save the file with a "bad marshal data FIL" error. What is this? How to fix it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: Laptop producing more heat in Linux

2010-12-02 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
A good starting point for decreasing power consumption with linux is www.lesswatts.org -- Best regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i

Re: Extremely large level 1 backups with dump

2010-12-02 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20101201_215849, Peter Tenenbaum wrote: > I've been using dump to perform backups of my home Debian workstation (I run > squeeze, btw). I do a weekly level 0 dump and daily level 1 dumps. > > For some reason the level 1 backups are almost as large as the level 0 (the > level 0 is 57.9 GB and t

Re: [OT] Making CPU fans spin [was: Re: Seeking advice...]

2010-12-02 Thread owens
> > > > Original Message >From: go...@dobosevic.com >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >Subject: Re: [OT] Making CPU fans spin [was: Re: Seeking advice...] >Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2010 23:11:42 +0100 > >> >>> This is the first thing to do as soon as I have "my" Debian >running on >>> the "other"

Re: jpg2pdf :-)

2010-12-02 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 14:01 +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > convert abc.txt abc.pdf > > not on my lenny system: > > $ convert abc.txt abc.pdf > convert: Improper image header `abc.txt'. > convert: missing an image filename `abc.pdf'. > on my squeeze: j...@squeeje:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB

Re: Laptop producing more heat in Linux

2010-12-02 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 14:45, Klistvud wrote: > Yes, there is. When designing hardware, vendors work hand in hand with > Microsoft to optimize their hardware for Windows. Drivers have to be > certified by Microsoft for the hardware to be allowed to run Windows at all > (at least this was the case

Re: Newbie video editing question

2010-12-02 Thread Florian Rehnisch
Marc Shapiro writes: > Also, what is the best capture and editing software for a newbie with > minimal needs. No flame wars, please. I know that Cinelerra is > available, but I don't know what else there is, or how easy they are > to use. For now all I really need to do is capture the analog s

Re: jpg2pdf :-)

2010-12-02 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:51:45 +, Joao Ferreira gmail wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 12:45 +, Camaleón wrote: >> > Now, I'd like convert any files to pdf (like png, txt, etc.) but I >> don't >> > how do. >> >> The same tool you are using for JPGs (Imagemagick's "convert") should >> do >> th

Re: jpg2pdf :-)

2010-12-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joao Ferreira gmail wrote: > works for txt too: > > convert abc.txt abc.pdf not on my lenny system: $ convert abc.txt abc.pdf convert: Improper image header `abc.txt'. convert: missing an image filename `abc.pdf'. - -- Johannes In questions of sci

Re: jpg2pdf :-)

2010-12-02 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pol Hallen wrote: > Howdy :-) > > #!/bin/sh > convert "$1" "${1/.jpg/.pdf}" > > using this script correctly convert jpg file to pdf (I use it with service > menu in kde). > > Now, I'd like convert any files to pdf (like png, txt, etc.) but I don't

Re: jpg2pdf :-)

2010-12-02 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 12:45 +, Camaleón wrote: > > Now, I'd like convert any files to pdf (like png, txt, etc.) but I > don't > > how do. > > The same tool you are using for JPGs (Imagemagick's "convert") should > do > the trick for PNGs and other image formats. works for txt too: convert

Re: jpg2pdf :-)

2010-12-02 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:32:38 +0100, Pol Hallen wrote: > #!/bin/sh > convert "$1" "${1/.jpg/.pdf}" > > using this script correctly convert jpg file to pdf (I use it with > service menu in kde). > > Now, I'd like convert any files to pdf (like png, txt, etc.) but I don't > how do. The same tool y

Re: Laptop producing more heat in Linux

2010-12-02 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 02. 12. 2010 06:10:13 je Kousik Maiti napisal(a): I have a Laptop with Multiple OS(M$,Debian5,Ubuntu9.04). Recently I have noticed my system produces more heat when I am using Linux OS.Is there any specific reason? Yes, there is. When designing hardware, vendors work hand in hand with

kmail problems on new laptop

2010-12-02 Thread Brad Alexander
Hi all, I am having a problem with kmail. I built my laptop on the new job with sid and the included kde 4.4.5. Set up email (kmail 4.4.7), and it receives just fine, I can compose emails, but when I hit that send button, both the compose and kmail windows gray out. I end up killing it after 15 o

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jpg2pdf :-)

2010-12-02 Thread Pol Hallen
Howdy :-) #!/bin/sh convert "$1" "${1/.jpg/.pdf}" using this script correctly convert jpg file to pdf (I use it with service menu in kde). Now, I'd like convert any files to pdf (like png, txt, etc.) but I don't how do. Can you help me? thanks :-) Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

help with ipset for Lenny

2010-12-02 Thread Squeeze Winnet
​Hi All Anyone using IPSET and/or has successfully installed and compiled it with Debian Lenny amd64? I'm keen to get IPSET running on a few boxes to cater for some custom iptables rules which at the moment are being initiated with bash scripts and it's very slow. I understand IPSET is specifi

Re: OCR

2010-12-02 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 01. 12. 2010 23:57:10 je Debian TR napisal(a): So what do you suggest? are there good commercial softwares for linux or should i find a win software which works under wine? The last time I used OCR (talking about 15 years ago), it was on a Windows machine and there was no need for

Re: An experiment about file timestamp (was: Timestamps jump by one hour when switching timezone)

2010-12-02 Thread Jochen Schulz
Lisi: > > I have an idea that there may be some distinction at the atomic level > between UTC and GMT. Can anyone enlighten me? Or was the decision to > call it UTC in place of GMT purely political? Ah, time for my favourite quote from the Java6 API documentation: | Some computer standards ar

Re: [OT] Making CPU fans spin [was: Re: Seeking advice...]

2010-12-02 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 01. 12. 2010 22:49:55 je Andrei Popescu napisal(a): On Mi, 01 dec 10, 08:18:27, PETER EASTHOPE wrote: > > Advisable to replace the fan before other components have heat > damage. Repair is an option too. If the fan has ball bearings, > they can be replaced. Bearing vendors can be found on

Re: Extremely large level 1 backups with dump

2010-12-02 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:58:49 -0800, Peter Tenenbaum wrote: > I've been using dump to perform backups of my home Debian workstation (I > run squeeze, btw). I do a weekly level 0 dump and daily level 1 dumps. > > For some reason the level 1 backups are almost as large as the level 0 > (the level 0

Re: [OT] Making CPU fans spin [was: Re: Seeking advice...]

2010-12-02 Thread Doug
On 12/02/2010 03:29 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mi, 01 dec 10, 23:11:42, godo wrote: This is the first thing to do as soon as I have "my" Debian running on the "other" machine ;) Is WD40 suitable for such fans? If you think lubricate the fan to get a better spin I would rather take a fine mac

Re: An experiment about file timestamp (was: Timestamps jump by one hour when switching timezone)

2010-12-02 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 02 December 2010 09:39:46 Lisi wrote: > I have an  idea that there may be some distinction at the atomic level > between UTC and GMT.  Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks, Chris - you foresaw my question and answered it before I asked it. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user

Re: An experiment about file timestamp

2010-12-02 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 04 November 2010 16:17:29 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 11/04/2010 10:23 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > Chris Jackson writes: > >> File timestamps are (or at least should be) stored in UTC. It's the > >> display of them that's affected. > > > > But I did the following experiment: on a compute

Re: An experiment about file timestamp (was: Timestamps jump by one hour when switching timezone)

2010-12-02 Thread Lisi
On Thursday 04 November 2010 15:23:13 Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Chris Jackson writes: > > File timestamps are (or at least should be) stored in UTC. It's the > > display of them that's affected. > > But I did the following experiment: on a computer with system time set to > UTC, I created a file at

Re: [OT] Making CPU fans spin [was: Re: Seeking advice...]

2010-12-02 Thread godo
My guess is the fan also needs some cleaning. A few days ago I cleaned my IBM R51 with compressed air can and heat is lower for ~20°C. Maybe was better to take apart but I was to lazy. Andrei -- Bye, Goran Dobosevic Hrvatski: www.dobosevic.com English: www.dobosevic.com/en/ Register

Re: Attaching vs. pastebin for big outputs [was: Re: Installation Size Different - bug ?]

2010-12-02 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 30 November 2010 12:48:12 Camaleón wrote: > ¹ Sorry, my main language is Spanish and sometimes I write faster than my > mind can go (while I already have finished to write down the message, my > brain is still stuck in thinking the appropiate English translation Would that I still spoke

Re: OCR

2010-12-02 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 01 Dec 2010, Bernd Kloss wrote: > > > > I've found that the Debian tesseract package (tesseract-ocr-eng) works > > very well, with extremely few errors. > > But isn't it cli - only? > regards > It is, but is that a problem? -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone -

Re: acroread trouble on Sqeeze

2010-12-02 Thread Jerome BENOIT
On 02/12/10 16:33, Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:50:04 +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote: On 02/12/10 03:14, Camaleón wrote: (...) Anyway, besides all these "esoteric" messages and warnings, are you facing any other problem with the program? I do not really care about the messages: my

Re: acroread trouble on Sqeeze

2010-12-02 Thread Andreas Weber
On 2010-11-30 13:48, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Any idea ? Try evince? It even works great and simple without fuss on my M$ box. HTH, ändu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http:/

Re: acroread trouble on Sqeeze

2010-12-02 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 12:50:04 +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > On 02/12/10 03:14, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Anyway, besides all these "esoteric" messages and warnings, are you >> facing any other problem with the program? > > I do not really care about the messages: my issue is that the tabs > featu

Re: [OT] Making CPU fans spin [was: Re: Seeking advice...]

2010-12-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mi, 01 dec 10, 23:11:42, godo wrote: > > >This is the first thing to do as soon as I have "my" Debian running on > >the "other" machine ;) Is WD40 suitable for such fans? > > > If you think lubricate the fan to get a better spin I would rather > take a fine machine oil, but WD-40. My guess is