SATA drive problems in LENNY...

2008-07-14 Thread Kai Martens
Hi there, While upgrading to service pack 3 windoze died - so I finally got my wife to work on my debian machine. Now I need to install debian on her amd64 compaq, and unlike 15 month ago this time I cannot give up. The SATA drives are simply not recognized during installation. Threw in an old

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-14 Thread Bob Cox
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 23:16:29 -0500, Ron Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I'm certain that you *are* running a "complete mail package" and > don't even know it! :O > > Just about all Unix systems use the same MTA[0] to transfer intra- > system mail as they do to transfer mail across the

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-14 Thread Brian Marshall
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:16:29 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07/14/08 22:41, Brian Marshall wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote: > >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500 > >>> R

Re: Fast PDF File Viewing

2008-07-14 Thread Bret Busby
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: I tried searching the mailing list archives as well as google for this but did not find any concrete answer. Here at work they have allowed me to use Linux ;) . Anyways, I am using debian exclusively and try to use Free Software applications wher

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/08 22:41, Brian Marshall wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote: >>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500 >>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-14 Thread Brian Marshall
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:43:38 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500 > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen. > >> > >> If you care a

Re: howto find out why dist-upgrade wants to remove a package?

2008-07-14 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:50:39AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Osamu Aoki wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 09:45:04AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> ... >>> It may be obsolete, but its replacement causes problems for that >>> plugin, which is no lo

Passing a module parameter to a compiled-in driver

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, http://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Hardware%2C_driver_status#NVIDIA I want/need to pass swncq=1 to the sata_nv driver, but it's compiled-in, not a module. How do I do that? The best I've come up with from Google-fu is (from the lilo prompt):

Re: flashblock and noscript extensions want root access?

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/08 21:34, H.S. wrote: > Mumia W.. wrote: > >> >> The Noscript FAQ discusses this. For Seamonkey, Noscript must be >> installed globally because Seamonkey is missing the API that makes >> profile-installation easy. > > > hmm ... thanks for t

Re: Fast PDF File Viewing

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/08 21:20, Chris Burkhardt wrote: > Amit Uttamchandani wrote: >> In comparison to a colleague's acrobat reader on windows, his acrobat >> reader performs a lot faster. > > Are your machines comparable processor- and RAM-wise? > > (sorry for n

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/08 21:04, Brian Marshall wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen. >> >> If you care about your data, and want to get to it at a

Re: flashblock and noscript extensions want root access?

2008-07-14 Thread H.S.
Mumia W.. wrote: The Noscript FAQ discusses this. For Seamonkey, Noscript must be installed globally because Seamonkey is missing the API that makes profile-installation easy. hmm ... thanks for this info. I'm glad you mentioned "Seamonkey," because I had forgotten that Iceape is Debia

Re: flashblock and noscript extensions want root access?

2008-07-14 Thread Mumia W..
On 07/14/2008 06:29 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: I never see those messages when I update plugins in Iceweasel from my own account. So I think there's an "everyone uses Administrator-mode Windows" bug somewhere in Seamonkey. The Noscript FAQ discusses this. For Seamonkey, Noscript must be install

Re: Using apt to install only one package

2008-07-14 Thread Mumia W..
On 07/14/2008 02:15 PM, andy wrote: Hi I am running Lenny/Testing and with the recent package updates a new set of kernel headers was installed which has completely screwed my nVidia driver settings. I had to reboot into 2-6-24 rather than the 2-6-25 in order to get GDM to work. [...] This

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Mumia W..
On 07/14/2008 04:18 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I'm not suggesting that they're the same, I'm suggesting that by making backports official it would be self defeating (why not just update stable?) and complicate things for developers (now they have two stable packages to follow). There's a time and a

Re: Fast PDF File Viewing

2008-07-14 Thread Chris Burkhardt
Amit Uttamchandani wrote: In comparison to a colleague's acrobat reader on windows, his acrobat reader performs a lot faster. Are your machines comparable processor- and RAM-wise? (sorry for not answering your actual question) - chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-14 Thread Brian Marshall
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:46:07 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I keep telling people that Gmail is evil, but no one will listen. > > If you care about your data, and want to get to it at any time, keep > your data and your apps on your local machine. So what would you recommend for

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/08 20:34, David Barrett wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote: >> >>> Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface, >> >> I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately wi

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Scott
I accidentally sent this first from an unsubscribed address. Excuse me if it shows up twice. Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > On 07/12/08 00:18, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > [snip] > > > If both IW3 & Epiphany are segfaulting, it seems that you have a > problem with gecko-1.9. >

Re: Giving up on Iceweasel 3.0

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Scott
Freddy Freeloader wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > On 07/12/08 00:18, Freddy Freeloader wrote: > [snip] > > > If both IW3 & Epiphany are segfaulting, it seems that you have a > problem with gecko-1.9. > >> >> > I don't know if it's libxul0d or xulrunner. The iceweasel > maintainer thinks it's x

Re: [OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-14 Thread David Barrett
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote: Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface, I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite often in the last weeks I get a mail from my getmail cronjob that my password was rej

Re: manipulate initrd from Debian installer

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Allums
Denny Schierz wrote: hi, looks like your new kernel is looking for something and not finding it. You seem to be trying to create a custom live CD. Do you use any gnu or debian tools to automate the process? i use gzip/gunzip/cpio/cp/mkisofs nothing more. There is the package live-helpe

[OT] GMail troubles [Was: Re: du-guidelines - point 7]

2008-07-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:44:32, Celejar wrote: > Note that Gmail can be used via POP or IMAP, without the web interface, I'm wondering, did any of you have problems lately with that? Quite often in the last weeks I get a mail from my getmail cronjob that my password was rejected. If I go to the

Re: du-guidelines - point 7

2008-07-14 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:22:29 -0400 "Jeff Soules" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > GMail is known buggy and not suitable for mailing list use, if only for > > it's propensity to send HTML when the user wasn't expecting to, and it's > > brutal lack of Reply to Mailing List and poor threading. > > And

Re: i386 or amd64?

2008-07-14 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:44:02 +0200 Peet Grobler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mumia W.. wrote: > > Anyway, 64-bit is so much faster for what--viewing e-mail? Browsing > > online forums? Not-viewing the screensaver for 20 minutes while you > > leave the computer to pick up the snail mail? > > Com

Re: [Mostly Solved] Re: Blurry fonts in printed invoices

2008-07-14 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:39:43 +0200 Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 17:46:23 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:09:09 +0200 Florian Kulzer wrote: > > [...] > > > > However, I don't recall ever seeing these "DEDVIP+f-0-0" kinds of names > > > befor

Re: how could i get the hexadecimal content in memory at address FFFF0000-FFFFFFF0?

2008-07-14 Thread Star Liu
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 12:55 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The hex values are the "usual" output of any low-level debugger. > Google for Linux debugger and take your pick > Larry thank you, i got a solution from the help of other mail list, that's to use flashrom to read the bios out to a bin

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:11:13PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:36 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > it's a complicated thing that OP proposes, I think. ISTM that it's > > much easier to realize that testing is a "moving target" alpha > > release (complete with sec

Re: manipulate initrd from Debian installer

2008-07-14 Thread Denny Schierz
hi, Mark Allums schrieb: > Ahh, I beg your pardon. no problem at all ;-) > I don't see where you made the modules or installed them. (You said in > your earlier post that you copied them to a directory.) However, it i copied them from /lib/modules to the unpacked initrd dir. > looks like yo

Re: manipulate initrd from Debian installer

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Allums
Denny Schierz wrote: hi Mark, Mark Allums schrieb: Where to start... well, I don't know your level of sophistication with the kernel, but did you compile the kernel the "Debian way" or the shame on me ;-) I used the Debian way via make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image --initrd --append_

Re: flashblock and noscript extensions want root access?

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/08 18:11, H.S. wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Actually, I see this when running Windows and updating plugins in >> restricted-privilege accounts. > So looks like the extensions are supposed to be installed system wide > now (for some reason

Re: du-guidelines - point 7

2008-07-14 Thread Jeff Soules
> GMail is known buggy and not suitable for mailing list use, if only for > it's propensity to send HTML when the user wasn't expecting to, and it's > brutal lack of Reply to Mailing List and poor threading. And yet, it's free-as-in-beer, without having to expose your home system to the vulnerabil

Re: manipulate initrd from Debian installer

2008-07-14 Thread Denny Schierz
hi Mark, Mark Allums schrieb: >> Where to start... well, I don't know your level of sophistication with >> the kernel, but did you compile the kernel the "Debian way" or the shame on me ;-) I used the Debian way via make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image --initrd --append_to_version=.denny

Re: manipulate initrd from Debian installer

2008-07-14 Thread Denny Schierz
hi Mark, Mark Allums schrieb: >> Where to start... well, I don't know your level of sophistication with >> the kernel, but did you compile the kernel the "Debian way" or the shame on me ;-) I used the Debian way via make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image --initrd --append_to_version=.denny

Re: flashblock and noscript extensions want root access?

2008-07-14 Thread H.S.
Ron Johnson wrote: Actually, I see this when running Windows and updating plugins in restricted-privilege accounts. So looks like the extensions are supposed to be installed system wide now (for some reason). In that case, shouldn't there be Debian packages for those extensions since one canno

Re: flashblock and noscript extensions want root access?

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/08 17:37, H.S. wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> >>> Any resolutions to this >>> problem? >> >> Run iceape from an xterm, see if that gives you any feedback. If >> not, run it thru strace. > >

Re: manipulate initrd from Debian installer

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Allums
Mark Allums wrote: Denny Schierz wrote: hi, i have to recompile a kernel (2.6.25.9) to get some hardware working, for example network cards and 3ware SCSI SATA controller from the installer (debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso). But I'm unable to create a valid kernel and/or initrd. i did somethi

Re: manipulate initrd from Debian installer

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Allums
Denny Schierz wrote: hi, i have to recompile a kernel (2.6.25.9) to get some hardware working, for example network cards and 3ware SCSI SATA controller from the installer (debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso). But I'm unable to create a valid kernel and/or initrd. i did something like: # mount lo

Re: du-guidelines - point 7

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 18:10 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > In the Debian-User Guidelines: > > http://people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html > > > > Point #7 says: > > "... Also, you need not change the title of thread when saying "thanks

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Sam Leon
Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: Hi folks, This is my first time on the Debian mailing list. I wanted to bring up a number of things I have been thinking about as of late. I had a long lng chat in #debian-offtopic if some of you remember. Abrotman - you're gonna love this :P Apologies

Re: flashblock and noscript extensions want root access?

2008-07-14 Thread H.S.
Ron Johnson wrote: Any resolutions to this problem? Run iceape from an xterm, see if that gives you any feedback. If not, run it thru strace. Running through xterm gave nothing, no messages at all. I cannot make neither head nor tail of t

Re: Using Lenny on production server?

2008-07-14 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Neil Gunton wrote: > I run a moderately busy community website, hosted on my own LAMP (Perl, > MySQL) AMD64 server, currently running Etch in a colo. I am going to go > up to the datacenter on July 16th to rebuild the server for various > reasons. This will include a complete re-install. One chang

Re: du-guidelines - point 7

2008-07-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 18:10:15, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > In the Debian-User Guidelines: > > http://people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html > > > > Point #7 says: > > "... Also, you need not change the title of thread when saying "thanks" > > o

Re: How do i access the Debian Changelog

2008-07-14 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Radai F Zabala wrote: > Folks, how do i access the changelog so that i modify the Changelog > using nano editor? This is the file i'm referring to > /home/el1ip3s01d/gnash/gnash-0.8.3/Changelog As you can see Changelog > is the file that i need to modify,because i'm trying to install > gnash-0.8.

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 14:18:38, Paul Johnson wrote: > Please disable sending in HTML. HTML email violates list guidelines. > Aslo, please include a quotemark of some sort like everyone else instead > of expecting a one-inch indent to be sufficient. The text part was quoted correctly so I guess gettin

manipulate initrd from Debian installer

2008-07-14 Thread Denny Schierz
hi, i have to recompile a kernel (2.6.25.9) to get some hardware working, for example network cards and 3ware SCSI SATA controller from the installer (debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso). But I'm unable to create a valid kernel and/or initrd. i did something like: # mount loop .iso # copy the cont

Re: du-guidelines - point 7

2008-07-14 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Chris Bannister wrote: > Hi, > > In the Debian-User Guidelines: > http://people.cornell.edu/pages/kk288/du-guidelines.html > > Point #7 says: > "... Also, you need not change the title of thread when saying "thanks" > or "solved the problem". Some email clients might not handle threads > appropr

Re: kde volume control question

2008-07-14 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quicktip: mouse wheel on kmix icon also commands the single slider that > ypu selected as master. No clicks needed ;) Wow! I have been using KDE for years and never even knew about this awesome tip! Thanks for sharing it! raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://www.peopl

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade removes random packages.

2008-07-14 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Achim Bode wrote: Hugo wrote: Achim Bode wrote: Hi, I dist-upgrade from etch to unstable. I change my sources.list, performed a apt-get upgrade and be informed that some package will be removed. gallery2 concerns me in particular since it not obsolete in testing.

Re: Flash in Etch?

2008-07-14 Thread Jeff Soules
Per Arthur A: > There's a flash for etch how-to on debian forums. Have you tried that? I assume you're referring to http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=28671 -- in fact I had no idea such a thing existed. It's pretty chaotic though, since there's a number of suggestions that would work for o

Re: JRE which openjdk & gcj

2008-07-14 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Monday 14 July 2008 05:26:14 pm Alex Samad wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:59:00PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > On Monday 14 July 2008 02:47:06 pm Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 08:02:05AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > > > > > I have noticed th

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 17:28 +0100, Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: > Damon L. Chesser wrote: > >> 1) Lets try a version of Debian Etch without the binary firmware > >> > > > > answered by my /rant/ about firmware and clusers > > > My point about the FSF Debian sister project was that it can

Re: JRE which openjdk & gcj

2008-07-14 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:59:00PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > On Monday 14 July 2008 02:47:06 pm Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 08:02:05AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > I have noticed that openjdk has made it into the repo's. Wondering what > > > peo

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 17:08 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > Agreed. IMHO Debian rocks. I was simply speaking of the "out of the box" > experience. Debian is not a good fit for someone who does not want to get > dirty and edit a file (once in a while). Most users do not want to EDIT > (ohhh

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 02:01:11PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > I'm not sure Ubuntu mostly solved this issue so much as they made it > pretty. Debian does the same thing, too, you know...it's not like we're > still using the old boot-floppies installer and debconf doesn't exist to > answer questio

manipulate initrd from Debian installer

2008-07-14 Thread Denny Schierz
hi, i have to recompile a kernel (2.6.25.9) to get some hardware working, for example network cards and 3ware SCSI SATA controller from the installer (debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso). But I'm unable to create a valid kernel and/or initrd. i did something like: # mount loop .iso # copy the cont

Re: apt-get update misspell

2008-07-14 Thread Joey Hess
[debian-boot is not the right list for this.. debian-user is] Dave Rave wrote: > when running apt-get update, and its reading the files, it says > > "file rred" instead of "file read" > > Its been that way for a while now. maybe whoever updated the updater > didn't speaka d'englishe. rred is a

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
Please disable sending in HTML. HTML email violates list guidelines. Aslo, please include a quotemark of some sort like everyone else instead of expecting a one-inch indent to be sufficient. On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 16:09 -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote: > I disagree. I think it's inappropriate t

Re: Using apt to install only one package

2008-07-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 20:15:45, andy wrote: > Hi > > I am running Lenny/Testing and with the recent package updates a new set > of kernel headers was installed which has completely screwed my nVidia > driver settings. I had to reboot into 2-6-24 rather than the 2-6-25 in > order to get GDM to wor

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:23 +0100, Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: > "These milestones don't have to affect the way it is developed, just > someone keeping an eagle eye out for a weekly generated ISO that -kinda > works OK- that can be relabelled Alpha 1, 2, 3 etc... and with a tweaked > apt so

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:36 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > it's a complicated thing that OP proposes, I think. ISTM that it's > much easier to realize that testing is a "moving target" alpha > release (complete with security support, BTW) and the RC's are beta > releases. Correct me if I'm

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 16:17 -0300, Ignacio Mondino wrote: > > Steve C. Lamb wrote: > > >> I Think there is a project called etch and a half in trac of that. > > > > > > It's called backports. :) > > > > > > > Ok, Now w

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Monday 14 July 2008 05:01:11 pm Paul Johnson wrote: > On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:12 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > > Alpha release: We have that, it is called testing. Packages are > > "dumped" into Sid, after a period of time with out bug reports, it is > > moved into testing (10 days?) autom

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 19:11 +0100, Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: > > What you are proposing is that packages move from Unstable, to a Testing > > alpha package, then to Testing which would be the basis of the RC's, and > > then onward to Stable. > > > To be blunt... -Fail- > That is not what I

Re: flashblock and noscript extensions want root access?

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/08 15:45, H.S. wrote: > Hello, > > I tried to install the NoScript and Flashblock extensions in Iceape > browser (on fully upgraded Debian Testing), but both extensions report > that I do not have write permissions to some directories. > > L

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 16:17 -0300, Ignacio Mondino wrote: > Steve C. Lamb wrote: > >> I Think there is a project called etch and a half in trac of that. > > > > It's called backports. :) > > > > Ok, Now we have two! Debian is wonderfull! :D > > I hope backports become an official project s

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 11:12 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote: > Alpha release: We have that, it is called testing. Packages are "dumped" > into Sid, after a period of time with out bug reports, it is moved into > testing (10 days?) automatically. Other way around. sid is still in development, t

flashblock and noscript extensions want root access?

2008-07-14 Thread H.S.
Hello, I tried to install the NoScript and Flashblock extensions in Iceape browser (on fully upgraded Debian Testing), but both extensions report that I do not have write permissions to some directories. Looks like they are being installed system wide. Why so? Aren't they supposed to be inst

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade removes random packages.

2008-07-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 19:44:21, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > The following packages will be REMOVED > > firefox gallery2 gimp gimp-helpbrowser gimp-print gnome gnome-office gq > ---^^^ > > Where did you get a firefox package? Please post your *full* > sources.list (if there is more than just Debi

Sf: Discover The Secrets of Making Change Works for You and ...

2008-07-14 Thread DNS Capital
No matter how we feel about it, the one thing we can always count on is that things are going to change. What we may not realize is that how we handle change affects the quality of our lives. Whether it is a new CEO, market opportunity, corporate vision, product line or job responsibility, any

Re: Using apt to install only one package

2008-07-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/08 14:32, andy wrote: [snip] > > I don't mind installing more packages than what I had thought I needed: > I am quite happy to believe that apt knows more than I do about what is > best for my machine!! > > I was just concerned that with my

Re: Sound Problems (Sound is Often Gone)

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Allums
Hal Vaughan wrote: Thanks for the info. It's a HUGE help. I have no idea where I got the idea that Alsa was outdated but it's likely I read a post on a list like this (or even this one) from someone who seemed to know what they were saying. ALSA replaced OSS, not the other way. ALSA has a

Re: Installing nVidia drivers [WAS: Using apt to install only one package]

2008-07-14 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Monday 14 July 2008 04:10:57 pm andy wrote: > Stackpole, Chris wrote: > > > > > > Well I can't guarantee that it will all be smooth sailing when using Sid > > packages. It should work, but obviously mileage varies. You do not want > > to do an apt-get upgrade or anything like that but just a si

Re: Sound Problems (Sound is Often Gone)

2008-07-14 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 14 July 2008, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon,14.Jul.08, 12:42:54, Arthur A wrote: > > My understanding was: > > > > Hardware <> ALSA <--> OSS <--> Apps > > AFAIK OSS has been the first type of linux sound drivers. Alsa was > introduced later as an alternative. Since 2.6.something (but

Re: apt-get dist-upgrade removes random packages.

2008-07-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 00:35:08, Achim Bode wrote: > Hi, > > I dist-upgrade from etch to unstable. I change my sources.list, Do you mean testing? [...] > ---> changed the sources.list file from: > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ etch main non-free contrib > to > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 14:42:30, Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: [...] > First of all I want to bring up the idea of a FSF Debian GNU/Linux, > everyone I have spoken to on IRC so far are in support of this idea so I > thought I'd outline it here so that theres a record of it. > > I'm tired of se

Re: Sound Problems (Sound is Often Gone)

2008-07-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,14.Jul.08, 12:42:54, Arthur A wrote: > My understanding was: > > Hardware <> ALSA <--> OSS <--> Apps AFAIK OSS has been the first type of linux sound drivers. Alsa was introduced later as an alternative. Since 2.6.something (but before etch IIRC) alsa is in the mainline kernel and OS

Installing nVidia drivers [WAS: Using apt to install only one package]

2008-07-14 Thread andy
Stackpole, Chris wrote: Well I can't guarantee that it will all be smooth sailing when using Sid packages. It should work, but obviously mileage varies. You do not want to do an apt-get upgrade or anything like that but just a simple 'apt-get install package' may work for you. I do not foresee

Re: [Mostly Solved] Re: Blurry fonts in printed invoices

2008-07-14 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 17:46:23 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:09:09 +0200 Florian Kulzer wrote: [...] > > However, I don't recall ever seeing these "DEDVIP+f-0-0" kinds of names > > before. Maybe you are still missing some other relatively important > > font-related package. Her

how to use TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M under Debian

2008-07-14 Thread michael
I've a Fedora box with a TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182M CD/DVD which works nicely (/dev/sr0 via sr_mod I believe) but when I debootstrap Debian etch 2.6.18-6-amd64 onto it and boot into that it fails to find the CD drive, eg [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsscsi [0:0:0:0]diskATA ST3500630NS 3.A

Re: problems installing with 'writemaster' CDROM

2008-07-14 Thread michael
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 19:50 +0100, Wackojacko wrote: > michael wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 18:03 +0100, Wackojacko wrote: > >> michael wrote: > >> > >> > >>> iTCO_wdt 20625 0 > >>> iTCO_vendor_support12741 1 iTCO_wdt > >>> snd_page_alloc 19025 2 snd_hda_intel,snd

RE: Using apt to install only one package

2008-07-14 Thread Stackpole, Chris
>I don't mind installing more packages than what I had thought I needed: >I am quite happy to believe that apt knows more than I do about what is >best for my machine!! > >I was just concerned that with my sources.list opened up to a Sid >repository temporarily for the purposes of this operation

Re: Sound Problems (Sound is Often Gone)

2008-07-14 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 14 July 2008, Arthur A wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Monday 14 July 2008, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >> On Sun,13.Jul.08, 18:29:25, Hal Vaughan wrote: > >>> I'm using Kubuntu, but not the latest version, the one before it > >>> (Gutsy, I think) and KDE 3.5.8 and have been using OSS. > >

Re: Using apt to install only one package

2008-07-14 Thread andy
Stackpole, Chris wrote: What is the correct syntax to ensure that when I am wanting to install the nVidia driver from Sid I limit it to *only* the package(s) I am seeking rather than everything else that apt wants me to install? I've spent the last 1/2 hour or Googling this and I can't find an

Fast PDF File Viewing

2008-07-14 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
I tried searching the mailing list archives as well as google for this but did not find any concrete answer. Here at work they have allowed me to use Linux ;) . Anyways, I am using debian exclusively and try to use Free Software applications wherever I can. Based on my research the fastest PDF vi

Re: Sound Problems (Sound is Often Gone)

2008-07-14 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 14 July 2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > 2008/7/13 Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sunday 13 July 2008, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > >> 2008/7/13 Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > I'm using Kubuntu, but not the latest version, the one before it > >> > (Gutsy, I thi

RE: Using apt to install only one package

2008-07-14 Thread Stackpole, Chris
>What is the correct syntax to ensure that when I am wanting to install >the nVidia driver from Sid I limit it to *only* the package(s) I am >seeking rather than everything else that apt wants me to install? I've >spent the last 1/2 hour or Googling this and I can't find an answer. >Perhaps my

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Ignacio Mondino
Steve C. Lamb wrote: >> I Think there is a project called etch and a half in trac of that. > > It's called backports. :) > Ok, Now we have two! Debian is wonderfull! :D I hope backports become an official project soon, they do a great job. -- -

Using apt to install only one package

2008-07-14 Thread andy
Hi I am running Lenny/Testing and with the recent package updates a new set of kernel headers was installed which has completely screwed my nVidia driver settings. I had to reboot into 2-6-24 rather than the 2-6-25 in order to get GDM to work. When I went to change the sources list to enable

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 04:06:49PM -0300, Ignacio Mondino wrote: > > 3) Lets try a medium ground between stable and testing. > I Think there is a project called etch and a half in trac of that. It's called backports. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink,

Re: howto find out why dist-upgrade wants to remove a package?

2008-07-14 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Hugo Vanwoerkom escreveu: WordPress is a blog, it needs X, all the formatting is for X. Actually, Wordpress in Debian requires the GD library (I'm not sure if this is a requirement upstream, or just a recommendation, but this does not matter now), which in turn requires some X libraries. On

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Ignacio Mondino
Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: > I hope you didn't type up all that, at least on the topics I raised... > it was a waste... > > My topics were.. > 1) Lets try a version of Debian Etch without the binary firmware Like I said in other mail, use just main repositories. > 2) Lets add dreamlinux an

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Ignacio Mondino
Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: > First of all I want to bring up the idea of a FSF Debian GNU/Linux, > everyone I have spoken to on IRC so far are in support of this idea so I > thought I'd outline it here so that theres a record of it. >... Hi Erase the contrib non-free part in your /etc/source

Re: sudo password visible through ssh command line

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 03:26:58PM +0100, Chris Davies wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:04:31PM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote: > >> In sid with key passwordless auth : > >> > >> ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "sudo ls" > >> password: password > >> > >>

Re: Re: apt-get dist-upgrade removes random packages.

2008-07-14 Thread Achim Bode
Hugo wrote: Achim Bode wrote: Hi, I dist-upgrade from etch to unstable. I change my sources.list, performed a apt-get upgrade and be informed that some package will be removed. gallery2 concerns me in particular since it not obsolete in testing. Is something w

Re: JRE which openjdk & gcj

2008-07-14 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Monday 14 July 2008 02:47:06 pm Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 08:02:05AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > > Hi > > > > I have noticed that openjdk has made it into the repo's. Wondering what > > people thoughts where on > > > > openjdk, gij and gcj ? > > > > > > Seems like we

Re: screen resolution

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 10:03:46PM +0200, niclas wahlgren wrote: > Can't get screen resolution up to 1600x1200. > > xrandr says: > Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1280 x 768, maximum 1280 x 1280 > VGA1 disconnected > DVI0 disconnected > VGA2 connected 1280x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm > 1280x800

TBird Sieve [Was: IMAP is teh r0x0rz!]

2008-07-14 Thread Steve C. Lamb
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:35:46AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Hell yeah it helps. Hm, they're compiled in by default in Ubuntu, wonder > if that means Debian too. Also... For the record it is compiled in on the Debian version of dovecot. > http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyr

Re: My first message... more of a mad mans rant...

2008-07-14 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Monday 14 July 2008 02:11:38 pm Steven Maddox (Cyorxamp) wrote: > > What you are proposing is that packages move from Unstable, to a Testing > > alpha package, then to Testing which would be the basis of the RC's, and > > then onward to Stable. > > To be blunt... -Fail- > That is not what I have

Re: JRE which openjdk & gcj

2008-07-14 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 08:02:05AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote: > Hi > > I have noticed that openjdk has made it into the repo's. Wondering what > people thoughts where on > > openjdk, gij and gcj ? > > > Seems like we have lots of choice, and there might be a chance to see a > 64B browser plugin

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