Re: 32 & 54 bit shared libraries -- how to?

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 SteveM wrote: > All the machines on my network mount /usr/local/lib/... using NFS. This has > worked well for me until I added 64 bit boxen. 64bit perl chokes on 32bit > compiled libraries. > > I feel there must be a simple solution. How have oth

Re: iceape (mozilla browser) and CSS of gallery website

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/11/07 16:33, H.S. wrote: >> Hello, > >> If I try to enlarge the fonts (CTRL+Wheel) in iceape of this website: >> http://gallery.menalto.com/ > >> the menus, or those little gray background windows, on the right hand >> jump

Re: epiphany-browser and iceweasel do not start

2007-05-11 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:01:22PM +0200, Rainer Dorsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 10. Mai 2007 22:45 schrieb Sven Arvidsson: > > On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 19:18 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > > > epiphany-browser comes up, but then it most likely crashes during > > > rendering of the

iceape shut down xwindow

2007-05-11 Thread Gerard Robin
Hello, when I close iceape, xwindow shut down. Has anyone encountered the same problem ? I use unstable. apt-cache policy iceape iceape: Installed: 1.1.1-2 Candidat: 1.1.1-2 Table of version: *** 1.1.1-2 0 500 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/statu

32 & 54 bit shared libraries -- how to?

2007-05-11 Thread SteveM
All the machines on my network mount /usr/local/lib/... using NFS. This has worked well for me until I added 64 bit boxen. 64bit perl chokes on 32bit compiled libraries. I feel there must be a simple solution. How have others solved this problem? thx, stevem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: Best Debian packages

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 02:28:20AM +, Tyler Smith wrote: > On 2007-05-12, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > And all the packages for the console? > > > > I don't know what this means. > I think he means non-X-based packages. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 04:01:39AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > My point was that, since the bible uses "ten" and "thirty", there is no > justification to force the passage cited by Ron into a "one significant > digit" context. If we assume that the biblical texts were meant to be > understood

Re: fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread Mark Grieveson
The wmdrawer was a great application for the fluxbox slit. I used this instead of trying to have icons on the desktop. It worked great. Otherwise, the slit was not much use for me. From what I could tell, the slit was where a program would be hidden, until your mouse went over it. At this point

Re: Best Debian packages

2007-05-11 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-05-12, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you list all the available packaes with apt-get? Maybe the most convenient way is to use aptitude, which allows you to browse all packages, unless you're after a list you can feed to a script. Just run aptitude from the command line. If

Re: I/O Wait and CPU Usage

2007-05-11 Thread Andy Smith
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:43:50PM -0400, Grok Mogger wrote: > I have a question about the "wa" fields in vmstat, top, and the > like. I and someone else I know have both read a great deal > about its meaning, and have come to two different conclusions. > Here are our interpretations. Could so

Re: no USB mouse in Etch

2007-05-11 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 16:17:09 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 03:00:41PM -0700, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > Will you please explain the construct of /^[^D|+]/ in your > > dpkg -l udev hotplug linux-image-\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' [ The above is referring to a

Re: Strange aptitude problem

2007-05-11 Thread Daniel Burrows
Does anyone have a package installation command that will reproduce this on up-to-date unstable? I think I may have a fix, but through various stupidities I lost my test case and can't confirm it. Thanks, Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 19:36, s. keeling wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote: >>> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why Unix has never had su

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Mark Grieveson
> XFCE advertises itself as a fast window manager. But since both are > based on GTK, won't Gnome be equally fast? What is it that makes XFCE > faster than Gnome? Good question. I've used xfce, and have not found it any faster, or easier, on the system's resources, than gnome. The only window ma

Re: default email program

2007-05-11 Thread Jesus Arocho
On Friday 11 May 2007 18:08, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > > On Friday 11 May 2007 23:26, Jesus Arocho wrote: > >> I am using debian etch. When I click on an email link on a web site the > >> system will try to launch evolution. How can I change the default email > >> program to s

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 17:13:25 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:41:10PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > > Actually I understand the concept well enough to know that it cannot be > > applied stringently if one deals with numbers that are divisible by > > positive i

Re: Removing Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Mark Grieveson
> On 05/10/07 19:38, Eric A. Bonney wrote: > I have decided that I prefer the KDE interface more than Gnome. Is > it ok to just uninstall the entire Gnome package? Is there an easy > way to remove them with just a single command at the command prompt? I've done this before. It was pretty eas

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 19:17, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] > I am a citizen of the country. I have right to employment for which I am > qualified. Disabilities must be accomodated by the employer. If you That's the big difference between Canada and the US

Re: fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-05-11, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I don't understand. Fluxbox comes with a well-written and detailed >> manpage. Would you rather it didn't, or did you mean to say it's too >> bad the documentation *isn't* included with fluxbox? Which suggests >> maybe you didn't

Re: fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:26:17PM -0700, BartlebyScrivener wrote: > On May 11, 6:50 pm, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mmm. It's pretty clear on my man page what it is > It doesn't give the simple clue that, unlike other wm's, the slit is invisible unless something is attache

Re: [Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 19:40, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >>> the Western world, there's not a lot of love lost between Hindus and >>> Muslims - but both are pretty mainstream (depending on where you are). >>> >> >> I guess it depends on your

Re: Best Debian packages

2007-05-11 Thread Deboo ^
On 5/12/07, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:10:36AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:15:45PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > > Is there a list of best (most used) packages in debian? > > > > Another list of all console packages in debian? > > > >

Re: fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On May 11, 6:50 pm, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I read the fluxbox man page and it wasn't clear what this slit-thing > was. Why wasn't the documentation that's available on-line included > with the package? Mmm. It's pretty clear on my man page what it is THE SLIT Th

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:04:44PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > [massive snippage] > OK. We'll just agree to disagree. I won't completely rehash my views (I've expressed them plenty already). Suffice to say that I think that is *completely* wrong for a government to be involved in prov

Re: autofs+ldap (without /etc/auto.master)

2007-05-11 Thread Jan Christoph Nordholz
Hi Martin, the initscript is unable to find your auto.master map. Unless you've modified the initscript, it expects an object of class automountMap with ou=auto.master _below_ LDAPBASE. Have a look at ] /usr/share/doc/autofs-ldap/README.ldap_master for an example. Regards, Jan signature.asc D

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 12:36:42AM +, s. keeling wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote: > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why > > >> Unix has never had such a capabil

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:34:18PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:17:04PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > I am a citizen of the country. I have right to employment for which I am > > qualified. Disabilities must be accomodated by the employer. If you > >

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-11 Thread cga2000
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 12:06:09AM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/10/07 22:34, cga2000 wrote: > > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:04:06PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 05/10/07 11:27, william pursell wrote: > [snip] > >>> be sitting in the editor w

Re: [Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]

2007-05-11 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ron Johnson wrote: the Western world, there's not a lot of love lost between Hindus and Muslims - but both are pretty mainstream (depending on where you are). I guess it depends on your definition of "mainstream". Christianity: 33% of world population Islam: 21% Hinduism: 14% Norther

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-11 Thread s. keeling
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote: > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why > >> Unix has never had such a capability is beyond my understanding. > > > > man batch: at, batch, atq, atrm

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:17:04PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > I am a citizen of the country. I have right to employment for which I am > qualified. Disabilities must be accomodated by the employer. If you Do you also have a right to be provided healthcare? What about education? Wha

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:57:29PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:42:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:10:28PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > > > Seriously, if a business is not accessible to someone, that person is > > >

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread John Fleming
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:26:34PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Roberto � wrote: Let us agree that to every Christian and Jew (at least) God is a He. Anyone read "Evangelical Feminism - A New Path to Liberalism" by Wayne Grudem? Interesting book about interpretation of scripture. It talks about

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:42:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:10:28PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > Seriously, if a business is not accessible to someone, that person is > > free to patronize a business that is willing to cater. > > But what if none d

Re: Slow DNS Lookups on Debian Etch AMD 64

2007-05-11 Thread Dallas Clement
On 5/11/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:37:07PM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: > On 5/10/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: > >> > >> I'm getting terrible DNS lookup perf

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:10:28PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 05:26:29PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 05/11/07 11:08, Amy Templeton wrote: > Seriously, if a business is not accessible to someone, that person is > free to patronize a business that is willing to

Re: fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:32:53PM +, Tyler Smith wrote: > On 2007-05-11, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:42:25AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: > >> On 5/11/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >I'm trying out different window mana

Re: [Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 18:22, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > In the mainstream, traditional Western religions, God is described as > He. > How many mainstream, traditional Western religions are there besides Christ

I/O Wait and CPU Usage

2007-05-11 Thread Grok Mogger
I have a question about the "wa" fields in vmstat, top, and the like. I and someone else I know have both read a great deal about its meaning, and have come to two different conclusions. Here are our interpretations. Could someone please tell me which interpretation is right? Thanks! Int

Re: no USB mouse in Etch

2007-05-11 Thread L . V . Gandhi
On 5/11/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 03:00:41PM -0700, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > Will you please explain the construct of /^[^D|+]/ in your > dpkg -l udev hotplug linux-image-\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' I've wondered about that too. In fact, I'

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-11 Thread John Hasler
On 05/11/07 10:33, Amy Templeton wrote: > John Hassler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Amy Templeton wrote: > Well, sweet! So the impression I'm getting is that reverse > engineering is basically protected by law? I wrote: > When done for interoperability. > So that means that I could use decoder prog

Re: autofs+ldap (without /etc/auto.master)

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:16:08PM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote: > Hello, > > i'm trying to get autofs pull everything from ldap (even auto.master) > > Now the situation is the following having an auto.master as below and > nsswitch.conf with !automount: files" pulls the map from ldap (because > a

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:23:32PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/11/07 18:15, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > >> > > If by "open minded" you mean "don't believe the Bible", > > Pretty much. > > > in which case I > > doubt their faith. > > I

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 18:15, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 05:54:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 05/11/07 16:02, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> [snip] >>>1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the >>>Father, t

Re: passwd and ldap

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:58:06PM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote: > Hello, > > I set up my system to authenticate against ldap, > > id ; getent passwd; getent group # all show the correct information > Do you also have ldap setup in your pam configuration? This is what I have: common-account: ac

Re: [Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]

2007-05-11 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ron Johnson wrote: In the mainstream, traditional Western religions, God is described as He. How many mainstream, traditional Western religions are there besides Christianity? Judaism. With all the hatred that has been cast upon Judaism over the past 2000 years, c

Re: default email program

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 05:08:21PM -0500, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: > Nigel Henry wrote: > >On Friday 11 May 2007 23:26, Jesus Arocho wrote: > >>I am using debian etch. When I click on an email link on a web site > >>the > >>system will try to launch evolution. How can I change the default > >>ema

Re: no USB mouse in Etch

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 03:00:41PM -0700, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > Will you please explain the construct of /^[^D|+]/ in your > dpkg -l udev hotplug linux-image-\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' I've wondered about that too. In fact, I've been saving that mail all this time thinking I'd get around t

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 05:54:30PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/11/07 16:02, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > [snip] > > > >1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the > >Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. > > > > Let us agree that to every C

Re: [Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 18:04, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> On 05/11/07 15:19, Celejar wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 13:26:34 +0200 >>> Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> [snip] >> Let us just agree that to you, God

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 16:02, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: [snip] 1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Let us agree that to every Christian and J

Re: DEBIAN ETCH : THANK YOU !!!

2007-05-11 Thread Colin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you very much for > keeping up the Decian spirit in producing this OUTSTANDING PRODUCT When we find "Decian", we'll give him your thanks. :-D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 05:26:29PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/11/07 11:08, Amy Templeton wrote: > > > access to certain forms of expression. Similarly, white people are > > well-established as "in charge" in, say, the corporate world. > > Although thanks to affirmative action there are now

Re: iceape (mozilla browser) and CSS of gallery website

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 16:33, H.S. wrote: > > Hello, > > If I try to enlarge the fonts (CTRL+Wheel) in iceape of this website: > http://gallery.menalto.com/ > > the menus, or those little gray background windows, on the right hand > jump into the middle of the

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 12:10, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Joe Hart wrote: >> The difference is that the person "dressing" the lamb is preparing it >> for use, usually to eat. That serves a purpose in at least nourishing >> the body. I suppose sacrificing the lamb c

[Fwd: Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?]

2007-05-11 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 15:19, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 11 May 2007 13:26:34 +0200 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] Let us just agree that to you, God is a He. In the mainstream, traditional Western religions, Go

Re: fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-05-11, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:42:25AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: >> On 5/11/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >I'm trying out different window managers and I'm now on fluxbox. >> > >> >The documentation seems sparce.

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 16:02, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: [snip] > >1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the >Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. > > Let us agree that to every Christian and Jew (at least)

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 15:19, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 11 May 2007 13:26:34 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] >> Let us just agree that to you, God is a He. > > In the mainstream, traditional Western religions, God is described as > He. How man

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 10:33, Amy Templeton wrote: > John Hassler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Amy Templeton wrote: >>> Well, sweet! So the impression I'm getting is that reverse >>> engineering is basically protected by law? > >> When done for interoperability

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 12:49, s. keeling wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Yes, but competent OSs have batch queues for running such jobs. Why >> Unix has never had such a capability is beyond my understanding. > > man batch: at, batch, atq, atrm -

Re: [OT] Terminology [was: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)]

2007-05-11 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/11/07 11:08, Amy Templeton wrote: > Calejar wrote: >>> Ron Johnson wrote: There are those of us who believe that claims of discrimination became trite many years ago. >> Amy Templeton wrote: >>> I'm inclined to disagree; it is more subt

Re: epiphany-browser and iceweasel do not start

2007-05-11 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2007-05-11 at 22:01 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > good observation, thanks. I did what you suggested and it looks to me like > the > problem comes out of libxul. NS_RegistryGetFactory () is calling itself many > times before the crash. I see more details, I tried to run with libxul0d-dbg

Re: default email program

2007-05-11 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Nigel Henry wrote: On Friday 11 May 2007 23:26, Jesus Arocho wrote: I am using debian etch. When I click on an email link on a web site the system will try to launch evolution. How can I change the default email program to something else, kmail in my case? I'm in KDE, but IIRC, in Gnome you

Re: no USB mouse in Etch

2007-05-11 Thread L . V . Gandhi
Will you please explain the construct of /^[^D|+]/ in your dpkg -l udev hotplug linux-image-\* | awk '/^[^D|+]/{print $1,$2,$3}' On 4/24/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 14:48:42 +, Tim Frink wrote: > On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:20:12 +0200, Florian Kulzer wr

Re: Slow DNS Lookups on Debian Etch AMD 64

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:37:07PM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: > On 5/10/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: > >> > >> I'm getting terrible DNS lookup performance on my Debian Etch system. > >> I've installed the "Et

Re: HP/Compaq DL380 G2 advice/help sought

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:06:16PM +0100, Kelly Harding wrote: > Hi, > > I've just aquired a HP/compaq DL380 G2 server, with 2Gb RAM and 2x36Gb hard > drives. > > I was wondering if anyone on the list has any experience with installing > Debian on this hardware and know > of any pitfalls, etc I s

Re: fluxbox slit

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:42:25AM -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote: > On 5/11/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'm trying out different window managers and I'm now on fluxbox. > > > >The documentation seems sparce. What is the slit and what is it for? I > >only see the bar at the

Re: CD/DVD Drive Problems (Etch 4.0)

2007-05-11 Thread Dallas Clement
On 5/11/07, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:25:33PM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: > I just installed Debian Etch 4.0 on to a machine that has a NEC CDROM > / DVD RW drive, and unfortunately it is having problems finding the > cdrom drive. > > I noticed this when I

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:16:13 -0400 Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 03:18:54PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Fri, 11 May 2007 15:42:50 +0100 > > Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:51:57 +0530 > > > "Masatran, R. Deepak" <[EMA

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:46:33PM -0400, Brendan wrote: > On Friday 11 May 2007, Joe Hart wrote: > > What I am so against is the fact that the US seems to think it is their > > right to go to other counties, where they do not have jurisdiction and > > kidnap people that *may* be terrorists and hol

Re: Slow DNS Lookups on Debian Etch AMD 64

2007-05-11 Thread Dallas Clement
On 5/10/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:41:59AM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: > > I'm getting terrible DNS lookup performance on my Debian Etch system. > I've installed the "Etch" - Official Beta amd64 version. > What is an official beta of Etch which

Re: default email program

2007-05-11 Thread Nigel Henry
On Friday 11 May 2007 23:26, Jesus Arocho wrote: > I am using debian etch. When I click on an email link on a web site the > system will try to launch evolution. How can I change the default email > program to something else, kmail in my case? I'm in KDE, but IIRC, in Gnome you go to "preference

Re: swap

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:41:15AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > probably. I'm sure you've all read the man page by now, but (paraphrasing) > > subscribe includes a "follow-up-to" header with the lists address so > that anyone who replies to the message will send it to the list > instea

iceape (mozilla browser) and CSS of gallery website

2007-05-11 Thread H.S.
Hello, If I try to enlarge the fonts (CTRL+Wheel) in iceape of this website: http://gallery.menalto.com/ the menus, or those little gray background windows, on the right hand jump into the middle of the page after a few magnification steps. Is it just my iceape or is something wrong with the

Re: Etch AMD64 fun and excitement

2007-05-11 Thread Ananda Samaddar
On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:27:09 -0400 "Curt Howland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. I have a new machine that I'm setting for my mother, a HP Pavilion > 6305. AMD Turion-64x2, which seems to be very nice. > > I only ran Vista long enough to make a restore DVD, and even that one > exercise ran smac

Re: CD/DVD Drive Problems (Etch 4.0)

2007-05-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:25:33PM -0500, Dallas Clement wrote: > I just installed Debian Etch 4.0 on to a machine that has a NEC CDROM > / DVD RW drive, and unfortunately it is having problems finding the > cdrom drive. > > I noticed this when I tried to install a package such as: > > debian:~#

Re: Instalar Debian 4.0 y SATA

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
Hola Eduardo, Esta lista es para discusiones en inglés. Si prefieres una lista en español, entonces te recomiendo que trates la lista debian-user-spanish. On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:12:44AM -0300, ruaimi eduardo wrote: > Hola: > Me he descargado la versión estable Debian 4.0 r0 Echt > de su pág

Re: How do yo u install minimal X with fluxbox on Etch?

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sat, May 12, 2007 at 12:13:38AM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > On 5/11/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:56:41PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > >> On 5/11/07, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:42:31PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > >

default email program

2007-05-11 Thread Jesus Arocho
I am using debian etch. When I click on an email link on a web site the system will try to launch evolution. How can I change the default email program to something else, kmail in my case? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 03:18:54PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 11 May 2007 15:42:50 +0100 > Liam O'Toole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 11 May 2007 16:51:57 +0530 > > "Masatran, R. Deepak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, GNOME and XFCE are desktop environments, as opposed to windo

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:41:10PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > Actually I understand the concept well enough to know that it cannot be > applied stringently if one deals with numbers that are divisible by > positive integer powers of ten and which are written down as words. > Obviously, "ten"

Re: Best Debian packages

2007-05-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 07:10:36AM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:15:45PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > > Is there a list of best (most used) packages in debian? > > > > Another list of all console packages in debian? > > > > I see Etch has 21 CDs ... how many have the source

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 06:04:09PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > The same can be said about package managers. While we all most likely > agree that apt is a superior package manager, there are those that think > RPM is by far better, and others that think the only real way to run a > GNU/Linux syste

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:48:28AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 10 May, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > >> > > I guess that depends on whether you consider the authorship of the > > Bible to rest with God, or with the men who transcribed His words. I > > maintainer the former, you apparently

HP/Compaq DL380 G2 advice/help sought

2007-05-11 Thread Kelly Harding
Hi, I've just aquired a HP/compaq DL380 G2 server, with 2Gb RAM and 2x36Gb hard drives. I was wondering if anyone on the list has any experience with installing Debian on this hardware and know of any pitfalls, etc I should be aware of? Any other suggestions greatly appreciated. Kelly

Re: exporting a variable to global shells

2007-05-11 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:53:18AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 05/11/07 08:24, Jan-Florian Hilgenberg wrote: > > Hi guy's, first I am german, so ignore my bad english please ;-) > > > > i want to get a variable out of a child shell in it parent shell, the sense > > is, that I want to use the

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:26:34PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Roberto � wrote: > > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:31:20AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > >> My point is that God, if She exists, is beyond our comprehension. We > >> have to have faith in Her existence. > >> > > A valid point, except that God i

Etch AMD64 fun and excitement

2007-05-11 Thread Curt Howland
Hi. I have a new machine that I'm setting for my mother, a HP Pavilion 6305. AMD Turion-64x2, which seems to be very nice. I only ran Vista long enough to make a restore DVD, and even that one exercise ran smack-dab into Vista's "Deny, Permit?" insanity. Just one command, and already I loath Vist

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-11 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 09 May 2007 18:10:31 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/09/07 10:40, Amy Templeton wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 05/08/07 23:17, Amy Templeton wrote: > >>> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:13:59 +0200 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:59:56 +0200 > > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > >> Faith is by definition believing in something that c

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Benjamin A'Lee
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:19:39PM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Fri, 11 May 2007 13:26:34 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Roberto � wrote: > > > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:31:20AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > >> My point is t

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-11 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 11 May 2007 11:40:20 +0200 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:01 +0200 > > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Ron Joh

Re: exporting a variable to global shells

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:53:18AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/11/07 08:24, Jan-Florian Hilgenberg wrote: > > Hi guy's, first I am german, so ignore my bad english please ;-) > > > > i want to get a variable out of a child shell in it parent shell, the sense > > is, that I want to use the Pr

Re: XFCE, and Gnome

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 01:30:13PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Masatran, R. Deepak wrote: > > XFCE advertises itself as a fast window manager. But since both are based on > > GTK, won't Gnome be equally fast? What is it that makes XFCE faster than > > Gnome? > > > > Good question. > > It used to be

Re: How do yo u install minimal X with fluxbox on Etch?

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:56:41PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > On 5/11/07, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 02:42:31PM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > >> Even though I do not need to install X on my new Etch console system, > >> I would like to know how do you install X, is ther

Re: swap

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 05:35:59AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 09:39:00AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:02:00PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > > > except with the "subscribe" directive, now mutt doesn't show the > > > "from"

Re: GRUB duplicates kernel entries in menu.lst

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 04:11:50PM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > Hi you all > > I noticed this strange behaviour in grub, in etch and now in lenny. > > Every time update-grub is called, due to a kernel installation or removal, > menu.lst grows bigger. Installed kernel entries for (recovery mod

linux-image-2.6-* dependency issues [was Re: Business card iso]

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:11:48AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:37:47PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > >> ~$ apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.20-1-686 > >> linux-image-2.6.20-1-686: > >> Installed: 2.6.20-3 > >> Candidate: 2.6.20-3 > >>

Re: exporting a variable to global shells

2007-05-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 03:35:30PM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 03:24:46PM +0200, Jan-Florian Hilgenberg wrote: > > > But i wish that my System get a IP for ethernet on every bootup, I know > > there is the option to put a process in the background by "command &", wher

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