Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:04:39 -0500 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:40:25PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > I don't get the question. God decides what is and is not his > > > word. Lots of people have claimed to write in the

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:40:25PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> I don't get the question. God decides what is and is not his word. >>> Lots of people have claimed to write in the name of God. >> Ah, but that's the rub, who's deciding wha

Re: Firefox/Iceweasel's weird close/quit behaviour

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 01:13:01AM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > That's one (fvwm) that I haven't tried. Unless that's comes standard on > some distro's that I have tried. I'll look into it. Thanks for the tip. Since you are running Sid, install fvwm-themes. It isn't in Etch, but it looks like you ca

Re: acronyms (was Re: REALLY OT:...)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > Michael Pobega wrote: > >> I've only used Mutt for a day or so now, and I like to do more productive >> things with my time than learn random acronyms. But thanks for filling >> me in, that's one I'll be sure to not forg

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 17:37, Joe Hart wrote: >> Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 02/25/07 16:55, Joe Hart wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 16:04, John K Masters wrote: >> On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:40:57 +0200 Andrei Popescu >>

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 12:43:14AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Nuke plants are (probably) just like any other industrial plant: > some well run, some not-so-well run. > Except that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission has a great deal of power over things dealing with nuclear safety. Most industr

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:40:25PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > I don't get the question. God decides what is and is not his word. > > Lots of people have claimed to write in the name of God. > > Ah, but that's the rub, who's deciding what is the real article and w

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/26/07 00:03, Steve Lamb wrote: > Wulfy wrote: >> point is that TMI and Chernobyl were accidents. Sellafield isn't. >> Nuclear policy overrides safety when it's "convenient" - > > Question really is how many well run plants are out there.

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > I don't get the question. God decides what is and is not his word. > Lots of people have claimed to write in the name of God. Ah, but that's the rub, who's deciding what is the real article and what isn't? God's not chiming in. You do realize that exactly which g

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 23:53, Wulfy wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >>> but then again, storing it in underground bunkers for >>> thousands of years doesn't appear to be a much better solution.

Re: Download cd-iso images

* Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070225 23:35]: > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:14:46AM -0800, Emile van der Merwe wrote: >> I'm new to the linux environment, but would like to try it out for >> myself. I want to download the cd-iso images, but wanted to know >> if I have to download all 14

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:08:02PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Which is precisely why God wrote the Bible and not us. If we did, the > > important parts would be left out. > > Really? Then you know what question you should be asking? Where are the > other gospel

Re: Download cd-iso images

Emile van der Merwe wrote: Hi, I'm new to the linux environment, but would like to try it out for myself. I want to download the cd-iso images, but wanted to know if I have to download all 14 iso images under i386 directory? Thanks Emile van der Merwe (BPharm; MSc) Consulting Phar

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Which is precisely why God wrote the Bible and not us. If we did, the > important parts would be left out. Really? Then you know what question you should be asking? Where are the other gospels the church, men, not God, has decided not to put into the book? Wasn'

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

Wulfy wrote: > point is that TMI and Chernobyl were accidents. Sellafield isn't. > Nuclear policy overrides safety when it's "convenient" - Question really is how many well run plants are out there. So far we have, what, 3 plants named here as bad. Ok, out of how many? If it were 3 for 3

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 05:53:54AM +, Wulfy wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > >Snarky, baseless, brainless angry-at-W comments don't help your > >credibility. > You mean he isn't trying make your country a theocracy? woohoo! Such a > lot of baseless rumours going about. > >

Re: Synaptic deps on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 in sid

Hi Roberto, It's my fault. The day before, with the apt-0.64, after "apt-get update", whatever I apt-get install , the apt return the "SEGMENT FAULT". Then, I gone to the debian's mirror: http://ftp.debian.org, And found that apt-0.7 was ready. After I downloaded the apt-0.7 and installe

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 but then again, storing it in underground bunkers for thousands of years doesn't appear to be a much better solution. Sure it does. Oh, yeah. Leave it for later generation to clean up... very much bet

Re: Synaptic deps on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 in sid

Dear Roberto, I am using sid branch and here is the log: 1. The log of "apt-get install synaptic" #apt-get install synaptic Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. Thi

Re: OT: a dumb query? pls humor me

Paul Johnson wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: $4 per gallon though? That's amazing. I can't believe anyone can be allowed to change that much for gas, it's highway robbery That's the price of a gallon of gas. In the US, this price is largely subsidized by military force so it's artificia

Re: Download cd-iso images

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 07:14:46AM -0800, Emile van der Merwe wrote: > Hi, > > > > I'm new to the linux environment, but would like to try it out for myself. > I want to download the cd-iso images, but wanted to know if I have to > download all 14 iso images under i386 directory? > No. The fi

Re: Synaptic deps on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 in sid

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 01:25:22PM +0800, Nicle Yang wrote: > hi all, > I have upgraded the apt to 0.7 in sid, and the version of the virtual > package: "libapt-pkg-libc" has been updated to 6.3-6-4.3. But, on "apt-get > install synaptic", the synaptic(0.57.11.1+b1) is still requiring the > packa

Download cd-iso images

Hi, I'm new to the linux environment, but would like to try it out for myself. I want to download the cd-iso images, but wanted to know if I have to download all 14 iso images under i386 directory? Thanks Emile van der Merwe (BPharm; MSc) Consulting Pharmacist E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Synaptic deps on libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11 in sid

hi all, I have upgraded the apt to 0.7 in sid, and the version of the virtual package: "libapt-pkg-libc" has been updated to 6.3-6-4.3. But, on "apt-get install synaptic", the synaptic(0.57.11.1+b1) is still requiring the package: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.11. When will the Synaptic be updated to

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 23:02, Wulfy wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/25/07 22:01, Wulfy wrote: >>> Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/25/07 21:39, Wulfy wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> Ooh. Don't even get me started on nuclear power

Re: passwd in chroot / You may not view or modify password information for USER

On 2/26/07, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:12:44AM +, Steve Kemp wrote: (cut) From my gut, it doesn't seem like SELinux is getting in the way. I'd see if FC has option to turn off SELinux as a kernel option or at least to turn off enforcing mode by using /selinux

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 22:43, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 06:36:46PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >> [...] >>> Uhm, the genealogies in question were not of Jesus. But hey, >>> if you want to

Re: passwd in chroot / You may not view or modify password information for USER

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:12:44AM +, Steve Kemp wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:07:48PM -0500, Nelson Castillo wrote: > > > The partition in which the chroot is is not mounted with the nodev option. > > It's mounted with ext3,defaults, just as / is. > > > > This is the strace I got: > >

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 22:17, Sunny Bains wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:20:50PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: [snip] > Just thought I would my two bits: > > http://www.sunnetworks.net/~ggarman/ > > " >

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 22:01, Wulfy wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 21:39, Wulfy wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Ooh. Don't even get me started on nuclea

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 06:36:46PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >[...] > > > > Uhm, the genealogies in question were not of Jesus. But hey, > > if you want to talk about his Genealogy I have a question, where > > did Cain's wife come from? Just a

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 22:01, Wulfy wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 02/25/07 21:39, Wulfy wrote: >> >>> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> Ooh. Don't even get me started on nuclear power. Cheap, cle

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:20:50PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> Yup. Because look at the time; that was how things were written. The concepts we have now did not exist then. But if you look further in their papers you'll

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 21:39, Wulfy wrote: Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Ooh. Don't even get me started on nuclear power. Cheap, clean, virtually unlimited. We can't use it *because* of the conservationists and environmentalists. Re

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:44:12PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > How many less people have cancer from the lower particulate count in the > air? How many people are alive now thanks to power to provide modern medical > care? > > Hate to break it to you but there is no perfect energy sourc

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 03:39:37AM +, Wulfy wrote: > > > Decommissioning nuclear plant... storage of nuclear waste... clean? > hardly. > Centralized. Dirties up a small area, versus the current mess where there are coal plants in nearly everyone's back yard pumping out smog and stuff.

RE: REALLY OT: News Flash

Can we give the "god" talk a rest on the Debian User Mailing list? Is this about debian? I like the idea of a separate of topic mailing list, so I do not receive these emails. My trash can is getting full of these "worthless" emails. -Original Message- From: Roberto C. Sanchez [mailto:[EM

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:33:05PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Yes. It was quite shocking since "state religions" were all the rage. > > They all wanted to go somewhere where they could worship in their own > > way without government interference. That does not change

Re: have I messed up package management?

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:05:54PM -0500, Steve Kleene wrote: > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sun Feb 25 21:46:34 2007, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > >On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:46:40PM -0500, Steve Kleene wrote: > > > >> Here are the only errors I got with the deb files I made: > >> > >

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:31:07PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Perhaps Adam and Eve's other children were the biblical equivalent of > > "bit players." > > Which falls under Cain married his sister. But how can they be bit > players in the Biblical sense? I mean

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 21:39, Wulfy wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> Ooh. Don't even get me started on nuclear power. Cheap, clean, >> virtually unlimited. We can't use it *because* of the conservationists >> and environmentalists. >> >> Regards, >> >> -R

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Ron Johnson wrote: > Does? Or "does not"? ... ok, time for a break as obviously I'm getting sloppy here. Thanks for pointing that out. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do... ---+

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

Wulfy wrote: > Decommissioning nuclear plant... storage of nuclear waste... clean? > hardly. > Chernobyl.., 3 Mile Island... how many people now have cancer because of > your "clean" power source? How many less people have cancer from the lower particulate count in the air? How many peopl

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 21:33, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> Yes. It was quite shocking since "state religions" were all the rage. >> They all wanted to go somewhere where they could worship in their own >> way without government interference.

Re: have I messed up package management?

References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sun Feb 25 21:46:34 2007, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:46:40PM -0500, Steve Kleene wrote: > >> Here are the only errors I got with the deb files I made: >> >> dpkg -i alsa-lib_1.0.14rc2-1_i386.deb -> >> dpkg: error processing alsa-lib_

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Ooh. Don't even get me started on nuclear power. Cheap, clean, virtually unlimited. We can't use it *because* of the conservationists and environmentalists. Regards, -Roberto Decommissioning nuclear plant... storage of nuclear waste... clean? hardly. Chern

Re: OT: abortion [was:sponge burning!]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:49:56PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > >> Ha ha-h-h! You don't see the irony here? >> >> You're complaining that no one should "control a woman's body" (when >> there's arguably another individual's life hanging in the balance), yet >> you think

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 21:06, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 06:47:07PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: [snip] >>> Which creator do you think they happened to be referring to? The Big >>> Band? Hydrogen and Helium? >>

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Yes. It was quite shocking since "state religions" were all the rage. > They all wanted to go somewhere where they could worship in their own > way without government interference. That does not change the fact that > they were mostly Christians. It does change th

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Perhaps Adam and Eve's other children were the biblical equivalent of > "bit players." Which falls under Cain married his sister. But how can they be bit players in the Biblical sense? I mean c'mon, just a few lines after Cain's unnamed wife begats Enoch we get a

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 20:21, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > All of this came *after* I went to a religious private school. So please, > spare me the whole "don't talk about what you don't know" argument. I've been > on the inside. I know

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > I mean come one. There was never an episode or movie of Star Trek where > anyone used a restroom. That doesn't mean that nobody in the Star Trek > univers had normal bodily functions (with the possible exception of > Commander Data). > Data once assured Tasha that

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:27:31PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > Now, would you be interested in helping me to clear-cut this forest so > that I can build a new whale-blubber processing plant? It'll run on > solar panels. (The front gate I mean; unfortunately, the rest of the > plant will run on coa

Re: OT: Religious flame-war [Was: News Flash]

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:21:56PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Acchh! Heathen! Vi is the one true text editor. > > > > There's a part of me that really wants to like vi > > But I just can't quite get there. > I actually tried to start on emacs when I first s

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> Well, *I'm* a conservative! >> > Whatever for? I'm all for conservation, too. ;-] > Me, too. Now, would you be interested in helping me to clear-cut this forest so that I can build a new whale-blubber processing plant? I

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:20:50PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > >> Yup. Because look at the time; that was how things were written. The > >> concepts we have now did not exist then. But if you look further in their > >> papers you'll see they were more Deists (Go

Re: xserver-xorg memory leak

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:05:31PM -0800, Bill Moseley wrote: > This is just a probe to see if anyone else is having problems with > Xorg eating memory. > > Every once in a while my desktop machine becomes unresponsive and top shows > that Xorg is using all my memory. > Firefox? I haven't seen i

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Please read my other posts. I have already refuted this twice. No, you haven't. >> Yup. Because look at the time; that was how things were written. The >> concepts we have now did not exist then. But if you look further in their >> papers you'll see they we

Re: OT: Religious flame-war [Was: News Flash]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Acchh! Heathen! Vi is the one true text editor. > There's a part of me that really wants to like vi But I just can't quite get there. -- Kent West Westing Peacefully -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a su

Re: have I messed up package management?

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:46:40PM -0500, Steve Kleene wrote: > > Here are the only errors I got with the deb files I made: > > dpkg -i alsa-lib_1.0.14rc2-1_i386.deb -> > dpkg: error processing alsa-lib_1.0.14rc2-1_i386.deb (--install): trying to > overwrite `/usr/bin/nm', which is also in

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 06:47:07PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > >> It's ok, it's what I expect from a religious person. >> > It's OK, it's what I expect from an athiest. > It's okay; it's what I expect from a thread that's degenerated into "nyaa nyaa". -- Ke

Re: OT: Religious flame-war [Was: News Flash]

Kent West wrote: > He married a sister. No problem with that, if one takes the Genesis > record at face-value. Early on, there was not genetic load that would > cause problems with close-relations. Er, somehow inbreeding didn't have an effect then as it does now? > It wasn't until several tho

Re: OT: abortion [was:sponge burning!]

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 08:49:56PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Every time I see men fighting about abortion, I wonder who the are > > they to tell women what to do with their bodies? > > > > Every time I hear of a woman having yet another abortio

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Steve Lamb wrote: > 2: Cain's wife is his unnamed and unmentioned sister. > That's my take. Gen. 5:4 -- After Seth was born, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. > Idle curiosity, do you have a daughter? If so have you offered her up > for gang rape like Job did? Job offere

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:01:30PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Why does it matter? If it was important, God would have put it in the > > Bible. Since it is not there, we can rest assured that it is not > > important. > > It's not important. That's convenient. N

Re: passwd in chroot / You may not view or modify password information for USER

I'd suggest disabling SELinux and seeing if that fixes it, if it does then I guess you get to learn more about using it than I wish to right now ;) :) Same here. Well, disabling SELinux in the host is not an option, but I can live with root not being able to run "passwd user" as long as I c

SOLVED Re: Sid: Problems with HP-Toolbox and xsane

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 For anyone who scans for this in the archives. - -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Sid: Problems with HP-Toolbox and xsane Date: Sunday 25 February 2007 20:57 From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Curt Howland

Re: passwd in chroot / You may not view or modify password information for USER

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 10:07:48PM -0500, Nelson Castillo wrote: > The partition in which the chroot is is not mounted with the nodev option. > It's mounted with ext3,defaults, just as / is. > > This is the strace I got: > > http://wiki.superservicios.gov.co:81/~n/strace.txt Looking that over

Re: OT: Religious flame-war [Was: News Flash]

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 09:03:52PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > > Now if you really want to get into a religious flame-war, lets talk > about vi vs emacs. I personally hate vi (but then, I never really > learned it). On the other hand, I think I've fired up emacs once, and > was totally befuddled. So

Re: OT: sponge burning!

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:51:38PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > Dude, take a transfatty foodstuff into a restaurant in NYC and eat it. > The Board of Health won't stop you. > > Of course, the restaurant staff may have an issue with you bringing food > into their restaurant. > Don't know about NY

Re: passwd in chroot / You may not view or modify password information for USER

On 2/25/07, Andy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 10:36:16PM -0500, Nelson Castillo wrote: > On 2/23/07, Andy Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 04:35:18PM -0500, Nelson Castillo wrote: > >> CHROOT> passwd userx > >> passwd: You may not view or mod

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 06:47:07PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > *I* don't. I can't speak for others, but I accept the Bible as God's > > Holy Word. Allo of it, even the parts I don't like. > > So, again I ask on this Sabbath, how many have you killed as commanded

OT: Religious flame-war [Was: News Flash]

Steve Lamb wrote: > But hey, if you want to talk about his Genealogy I have a question, where did > Cain's wife come from? Just asking. > He married a sister. No problem with that, if one takes the Genesis record at face-value. Early on, there was not genetic load that would cause problems wit

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 20:30, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:11:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/25/07 16:20, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> [snip] >>> are a crutch. Nevermind that the Chrisitan nation of the USA (it was >>> founded

Re: have I messed up package management?

> BTW, why wouldn't alsa-source 1.0.14~rc1-1 from experimental solve > your problem? Maybe it would. I hadn't noticed that it was available. If all I needed was a driver, that would have been the way to go. I installed alsa-lib first but am not sure if that was necessary. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Why does it matter? If it was important, God would have put it in the > Bible. Since it is not there, we can rest assured that it is not > important. It's not important. That's convenient. No wonder you see no contradiction in the Bible. Why is it important? I

Re: OT: sponge burning!

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 19:51, Michael M. wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 19:08 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> All the time "we" (i.e., us, through the government) tell people >> what they can and can not do with their own bodies. >> >> For example, the members of

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 19:59, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:29:54PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 02/25/07 16:25, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:20:21PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: No, you're a wimp for not

Re: OT: sponge burning!

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:37:42PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > According to the CDC, [1] 1.4% of all abortions performed in the U.S. > were obtained at 21 weeks or more (statistics for 2003). > > So, because some unknown portion of 1.4% of abortions have the potential > to be aborting a fetus th

Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:13:00 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 02/25/07 06:16, Michael Pobega wrote: > > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:41:44AM +, s. keeling wrote: > > >> Ron Jo

OT: abortion [was:sponge burning!]

Michael M. wrote: > It seems to me you can only equate abortion with murder if you believe > that a fetus equates with a human being (in terms of the human rights it > should be accorded), in which case viability is not an issue because > even a not-yet-viable fetus should be accorded those same ri

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > *I* don't. I can't speak for others, but I accept the Bible as God's > Holy Word. Allo of it, even the parts I don't like. So, again I ask on this Sabbath, how many have you killed as commanded by your god? > You mean the founding fathers who quoted scripture in

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 06:36:46PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > You are apparently confused. Whether *you* choose to admit it or not, > > God is control. I am not, you are not, the false gods in which many > > choose to believe are not. The God of the Bible is. > >

Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > You are apparently confused. Whether *you* choose to admit it or not, > God is control. I am not, you are not, the false gods in which many > choose to believe are not. The God of the Bible is. We rest our case. > That is not a contradiction. The Genealogy of C

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:31:22PM -0800, Michael M. wrote: > > No, Roberto, I never said "atheists are somehow superior" to anyone. I But you certainly implied it. > made an observation about a characteristic much more common to theists > than to atheists: certainty. You claimed, by insinuat

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:11:52PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 16:20, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > [snip] > > are a crutch. Nevermind that the Chrisitan nation of the USA (it was > > founded as a Christian nation by Christians) has developed far more > > So... the United States is a th

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:39:05PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > But are there any (non-trivial) secular non-totalitarian governments? > > Is this more a case of the rampant theism more than anything else? Hard > to say that it doesn't work when it really hasn't been tr

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:08:23PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > He > > claims that religious people are stupid and basically use ancient texts > > are a crutch. > > Well, don't you? I mean you cherry pick the nice bits and reject the > nasty. > *I* don't. I can

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Ron Johnson wrote: > My, aren't we the close-minded literalist. Actually, I'm not. I just have to deal with the close-minded literalists. Remember, we've already had one person in this thread, in this thread line, say that if the Bible says it, he believes it. That's the problem when viewin

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On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 03:04:57PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > But you missed the point, Roberto. A Christian who thinks that *his* god > and not someone else's god (or no god at all) is in control of all things is > asserting his control by proxy. Look at it from the Atheist's point of vie

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Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/25/07 16:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 11:27:34PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote: > [snip] > > Do you *really* want to things to get out of hand? If so, just > > start spouting of

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Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Tyler MacDonald wrote: > > ... OT spam that's coming along with > > it (and currently increasing in velocity)! > > No, it's not. This is normal. In fact ask any crusty ol' Debian > fart who's been around for almost a decade (hi!) how predictable the >

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 05:29:54PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 02/25/07 16:25, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 04:20:21PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> No, you're a wimp for not having them hike from the car-drivable > >> road to the campsite. > >> > >> ;) > >> > > Oh. Ri

Re: OT: sponge burning!

On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 19:08 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > All the time "we" (i.e., us, through the government) tell people > what they can and can not do with their own bodies. > > For example, the members of the NYC Board of Health who in December > voted to not let us eat transfats in restaura

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 19:40, Michael M. wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:14 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > >> I've only used Mutt for a day or so now, and I like to do more productive >> things with my time than learn random acronyms. But thanks for filling >>

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 19:31, Michael M. wrote: > On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:20 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: [snip] > I don't mean to imply that that is an inferior position, but I do mean > to imply that it means theists are far more likely than atheists to fe

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Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > To hell with it . In the next 2 hours I'll be off this list, and if > anyone asks I will not suggest they subscribe to it. > > answers to debian questions, yes, but not on this list. > > Nigel. What a shame that your impatience will disallow you access to

Re: have I messed up package management?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/25/07 18:46, Steve Kleene wrote: > References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Sun Feb 25 16:15:46 2007, I wrote: > >> What I did was to put in alsa-base 1.0.14-rc1 from Debian experimental and >> alsa-lib and

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On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:14 -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: > I've only used Mutt for a day or so now, and I like to do more productive > things with my time than learn random acronyms. But thanks for filling > me in, that's one I'll be sure to not forget. Sometimes I think Linux is nothing but ran

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On Sun, 2007-02-25 at 17:20 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Sorry. He made a number of unsubstianted claims, including that > athiests are somehow superior because they are all enlightened. He > claims that religious people are stupid and basically use ancient texts > are a crutch. Nevermind

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