Can we give the "god" talk a rest on the Debian User Mailing list? Is this
about debian? I like the idea of a separate of topic mailing list, so I do
not receive these emails. My trash can is getting full of these "worthless"
emails. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Roberto C. Sanchez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 13:49
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: REALLY OT: News Flash

On Sun, Feb 25, 2007 at 07:31:07PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > Perhaps Adam and Eve's other children were the biblical equivalent of
> > "bit players."
> 
>     Which falls under Cain married his sister.  But how can they be bit
> players in the Biblical sense?  I mean c'mon, just a few lines after
Cain's
> unnamed wife begats Enoch we get a series of other people, all of whom are
> named.  And you'd think that children of the first pair would be a tad
more
> interesting.
> 
Which is precisely why God wrote the Bible and not us.  If we did, the
important parts would be left out.

> > If a news report shows a family with a child and you later learn that
> > the family had three children, who is wrong?
> 
>     Soooo the Bible is a news broadcast (which often get many things
wrong)
> and not the infallible word of God?
> 
Oooh.  Good way to miss the point.  The Bible tells us what God thinks
is important.  If it's not in there, then God obviously did not think it
was important.  Even if the Bible was a news broadcast, it is a
broadcast from God and so is the infallible Word of God.

> > I think you mean Lot, not Job.  But you are obviously taking scripture
> > out of context.
> 
>     Ah, yes, mea Culpa.  Job was the one God played a practical joke on.
> Lot's the one that offered up his daughters for gang-rape.  Out of context
> how?  If anyone that would be you.  You can't even understand the context
with
> which the nation was founded.  Let's review.
> 
Umm, God did not play practical joke on Job.  God fixed up Job's pride
problem and in the process played a practical joke on Satan, and also
dealt with Job's friends.

Romans 8

  28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love
God,
to them who are the called according to his purpose.

> They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them
out
> to us so that we can have sex with them."
> 
> Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him and said, "No,
my
> friends. Don't do this wicked thing. Look, I have two daughters who have
never
> slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you
like
> with them. But don't do anything to these men, for they have come under
the
> protection of my roof."
> 
>     Ok, gang of men who want to get freaky with the angels.  Lot goes
outside
> and says to them, "I have two daughters who have never slept with a man.
Let
> me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them."
> 
>     What, you think this gang of men who a line before demanded that they
> wanted to have sex with two angels are now going to have a nice tea and
> crumpets with Lot's daughters?  No.  I fail to see how anyone can see him
as
> doing anything other than offering them up for gang-rape.
> 

Ummm, Lot took the course of action he did because he was trying to
protect the two angels.  The moral is to be prepared to sacrifice your
family for the cause of God.  Whether the sacrifice be literal or
figurative, God is more important.

This is also seen when Abraham is told by God to sacrifice Isaac on an
altar.  Jesus even talked about leaving your family behind to serve him.

> > I do ask questions.  But not to you, since you are no more likely to
> > have the answers.
> 
>     You do?  Then why can't you even answer my simple questions if you
haven't
> asked them yourself?
> 
I have answered them.  You just choose to ignore.

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sanchez
http://people.connexer.com/~roberto
http://www.connexer.com


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