On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:31:19AM -0500, Abhishek wrote:
> Hello everyone,
Hi Abhisek,
> I am basically a redhat linux user &
> tryingout the debian distro.
welcome to Debian!
> I have written the XFree86 file but when trying the command X or
> startx it is refusing to
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:10:35 -0400, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I completely agree. ...
Hmm. What do you agree with? Are you agreeing that top posting sucks,
or that top posting is good? Well to figure that out, I would need to
either scroll down to look at the post that you're
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 18:00:53 -0700, Tony Godshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> ...
>> There isn't a problem with context because I can remember that from
>> one post to the next. ...
> Which is fine if you are reading a thread fresh, but if you are
> reading a number of lists, and leave and come ba
On Jun 09 2005, John Carline wrote:
> But, it would make my reading/following of threads much easier if I
> didn't have to scroll down to the bottom of post after post in a long
> string just to read the one line added to the 200 I've already read.
The point is: if somebody makes you scroll down m
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:04:49PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks... I'm still new. I'm thankful for people like yourself that help
> people like me out. This is a lesson that I DEFINITELY WILL NOT FORGET.
>
> If all I need are the 1st 3 or 4 CD's, then what is on the other 10 CD's,
>
On Thursday 09 June 2005 11:16 pm, Hubert Chan wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:16:46 -0400, Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> > I saw that, figured it was an attempt to be clever in making one's
> > point and decided it was stupid. ...
>
> Then why did you decide to insult David's writing gra
On 6/10/05, James Ronald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking to put together an inexpensive Socket 939 system for just
> general computing as my main computer just died the other day. I intend to
> run Debian Sid on it and would like to know if anyone has any experience
> good or otherwise wi
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 04:50:21AM -0400, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
> Forgive me for not ansering sooner...
>
> Here is a not-so-current background piece:
>
> http://www.hhs48.com/why_linux.html
>
> You can also get more current info at www.linux-speakup.org
>
> Many distributions
On 6/10/05, Jeronimo Pellegrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> So, after swithing one box from Fedora to Debian
> Sarge, there's onw thing users would probably like, but I don't know
> how to do: Fedora will mount pendrives automatically for you, with the
> permissions of whoever is on th
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 19:51:22 -0500, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hubert Chan wrote:
>> (David, I think you're to subtle . . . .
>>
>>
> "too".
> D'oh!
Yeah, I saw that after I sent the message. I'll blame it on my keyboard
not noticing the second `o'. Or on the Debian list server fo
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 20:16:46 -0400, Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I saw that, figured it was an attempt to be clever in making one's
> point and decided it was stupid. ...
Then why did you decide to insult David's writing grammar when there was
nothing wrong with his grammar if you read
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:02:06PM -0400, Robert Brockway wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>
> > Sadly, most people (myself included) have no passphrase on their SSH
>
> Hi. Using PKI with no passphrase drops the level of security
> significantly (as I'm sure you know).
>
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:54:57AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Erik Steffl wrote:
> > are you talking about pre-2k times only? I mean during last four years
> > imap support seems to be pretty good (and improving). Thunderbird
> > definitely isn't the first usable MUA, as far as imap support goes.
Hi folks! I was wondering if there was a way I could upgrade KDE 3.3 to
3.4 using apt-get?
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,$P' `$ ,$P' `Y$ $$' `$ $ "' `$ $$' `$
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Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wednesday June 8 2005 12:17 pm, Jim Hall wrote:
Now that Sarge is released, do I need to point 'update' & 'upgrade'
to "stable", or leave Sarge as the target?
It depends. Do you want to track Sarge or stable? Stable is always
the current release, Sarge is always Sar
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Wednesday June 8 2005 1:32 pm, Jim Hall wrote:
Sounds good. Next link in the chain, will I have to use
'dist-upgrade'?
Yes, though you might find visual representation of what you're doing
helpful. You might want to do this instead:
apt-get install aptitude
Then,
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:55:33AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 04:50:01PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > In summary: If you have big mailboxes, like mailinglists,
> > you will go better with Maildir or IMAP
>
> Mail store format and the remote
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 02:00:45AM +0100, Jaime wrote:
> Hi all.
>
>
> Everything apart from the dependant version of libc6 is identical. So
> why does apt-get want to upgrade one, but not the other?
>
With your homebuilt version installed, run 'apt-cache policy less' to
see what priorities it g
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 10:40:50PM +0200, Fernando Cacciola wrote:
> Hi people,
>
> I'm new to debian (knoppix 3.8.1 on HDD) and to linux in general.
> I installed it on HD without troubles (well, only after I realized that
> my dev/hda1 was mounted from startup becasue I have too little RAM and a
David Jardine wrote:
The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems
to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing".
Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced
by sarge without his being asked. Somebody running testing didn't
want to mov
On Thursday 09 June 2005 10:34 pm, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday June 9 2005 11:34 am, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> > My point (with all do respect and no insult intended): You may not
> > like top posting, but all of us on the 'net, even in technical
> > groups like this, are dealing more and more wit
On Thursday 09 June 2005 10:35 pm, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday June 9 2005 5:10 pm, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> > I completely agree. Whoever (the attribution is not clear to me)
> > wrote that crap about top posters vs bottom posters is an arrogant
> > idiot. Processing information in revers
On Thursday June 9 2005 8:05 am, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> You guys are going to get tired of hearing from me. :]
Uh oh! When you start saying that, it's time to ask yourself "Am I
asking a smart question?"
http://ursine.ca/Related#How_To_Ask_Smart_Questions.C2.A0.28http%3A.2F.2Fcatb.org.2F
On Thursday June 9 2005 7:43 pm, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:12:37PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> > You've been around too many Outlook Express and Outlook users,
> > then. Those are the only two clients that encourage top posting
> > by default and make you strain to post properl
On Thursday June 9 2005 5:10 pm, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> I completely agree. Whoever (the attribution is not clear to me)
> wrote that crap about top posters vs bottom posters is an arrogant
> idiot. Processing information in reverse order is much more
> efficient
Do you drive in reverse on t
On Thursday June 9 2005 1:13 pm, Mike Ward wrote:
> Thanks for asking that, btw, Jin. I'm only an occasional user of
> the mailing list (I pop in every week or so to check up on it,
> that's about it, at most), and I was wondering as well. Actually, I
> even made the same incorrect assumption.
Not
On Thursday June 9 2005 5:11 pm, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> On Thursday 09 June 2005 05:26 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> > So a top-poster is concerned about him or herself not doing extra
> > work. A bottom-poster is concerned with improving the quality of
> > reading for others.
>
> That's the most self
On Thursday June 9 2005 12:44 pm, Jin Juku wrote:
> I guess I really am a newbie, because I have no idea what this
> top-posting business is supposed to mean ... we're not supposed to
> send new, clean messages to the list ...?
http://ursine.ca/Top_Posting
The more you know...
--
Paul Johnson
Ema
On Thursday June 9 2005 12:56 pm, Ugo Bellavance wrote:
> Jin Juku wrote:
> > I guess I really am a newbie, because I have no idea what this
> > top-posting business is supposed to mean ... we're not supposed
> > to send new, clean messages to the list ...?
>
> He just meant you're supposed to post
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 01:57:56AM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
> The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems
> to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing".
>
> Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced
> by sarge without his being ask
(I haven't quoted anything here because this isn't a response to what
Carl wrote, just here because it's the end of the thread at this point
in time)
I must say, this thread has to be one of the most well structured and
easy to read in my whole experience of reading a public mailing list. If
Hi people,
I'm new to debian (knoppix 3.8.1 on HDD) and to linux in general.
I installed it on HD without troubles (well, only after I realized that
my dev/hda1 was mounted from startup becasue I have too little RAM and a
swapfile was being automatically created, so I had to boot at runlevel 3
to
On 2005-06-10, Kent West wrote:
> Hubert Chan wrote:
>
>>(David, I think you're to subtle . . . .
>>
>>
> "too".
>
> D'oh!
>
> As long as we're drifting way off-topic (which is a fun thing to do
> sometimes, for a short while):
>
> "you're" means "you are", as in "You're driving too fast".
> "you
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 07:12:37PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> You've been around too many Outlook Express and Outlook users, then.
> Those are the only two clients that encourage top posting by default
> and make you strain to post properly, instead of the other way
> around.
Lotus Notes.
Now you can diversify the acts in your bedroom!
http://uyow.b8e4fct483t1xut.unappointgi.com
..simple fact that any land looks like Eden after months at sea.
Time the devourer of all things.
Nothing is stronger than habit.
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On Thursday June 9 2005 11:34 am, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> My point (with all do respect and no insult intended): You may not
> like top posting, but all of us on the 'net, even in technical
> groups like this, are dealing more and more with newcomers to the
> Internet.
No! Not acceptable!
You make
Top posting considered harmful.
http://ursine.ca/Top_Posting
On Thursday June 9 2005 4:22 pm, John Carline wrote:
> But, it would make my reading/following of threads much easier if I
> didn't have to scroll down to the bottom of post after post in a
> long string just to read the one line add
On Thursday June 9 2005 2:06 pm, Graham Smith wrote:
> I know that this will put the cat amongst the pigeons but I
> actually prefer top posting. I've been reading newsgroups and
> mailing lists for years and I have always thought that bottom
> posting was the wrong way to do it.
You've been aroun
On Thursday June 9 2005 9:55 am, David Jardine wrote:
> be getting out of hand :)
> us a lecture on top posting sometime soon? It seems to
> Isn't some authoritative voice on the list going to give
Sure. And I invite folks to add their own two cents.
http://ursine.ca/Top_Posting
--
Paul Johns
On Thursday June 9 2005 4:57 pm, David Jardine wrote:
> The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems
> to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing".
>
> Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced
> by sarge without his being asked.
Then "s
Hi all.
I've just installed a fresh Sarge (stable) to test out a strange problem
that I have. I have two (2) deb files: one is called less_382-1_i386.deb
and was created/compiled by me by downloading debian sources and using
dpkg-buildpackage - the other has the same name (less_382-1_i386.deb)
and
Hello!
So, after swithing one box from Fedora to Debian
Sarge, there's onw thing users would probably like, but I don't know
how to do: Fedora will mount pendrives automatically for you, with the
permissions of whoever is on the console. I tried usbmount, but it seems
to always mount as root. Afte
Fuck all. Let' try it again sam till we get it right.
Steve Block wrote:
You never try to fix a problem unless you know it's hardware?
I'll typically deinstall the package or live with the bug. Life's too
short and Debian's too buggy.
That's
> pathetic.
If it's serious enough I'll file a
Tony Godshall wrote:
Uh, your dlocate seems to show no /etc/apt/apt.conf file either.
Nor here:
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=apt&version=stable&arch=i386&page=1&number=all
There seem to be a number of contexts in which conffiles aren't
regarde
Steve Block wrote:
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:34:05PM -0400, Marty wrote:
Secondly I never try to figure out problems unless I know it's a hardware
fault, which take up quite enough of my time, thank you. If it
doesn't "just work" as it should then 99% of the time, the answer is
archived some
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks... I'm still new. I'm thankful for people like yourself that help
people like me out. This is a lesson that I DEFINITELY WILL NOT FORGET.
If all I need are the 1st 3 or 4 CD's, then what is on the other 10 CD's,
just a whole lot of software? Is there a breakdo
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:12:27PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> David Jardine wrote:
> > The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems
> > to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing".
>
> Not familiar with this enormous confusion.
Well, I've seen seen some of y
belahcene wrote:
> Hi,
> I downloded some CD of debian-31r0 ( 1 to 5 ), after that the iso have
> changed to debian-31r0a, must I to reloaded what I have done, or only
> to continue with the new CD's ( debian-31r0a-6 to debian-31r0a-14 ).
> in fact I don't need the update-security.
If you don't
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 05:54:21PM -0400, Craig Russell wrote:
Trying to compile the 2.6.8 kernel from the debian source package
(patched) and I keep on running into this problem after reboot. I
have gone back and checked to make sure that the ide driver
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:34:05PM -0400, Marty wrote:
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 17:10:05 +0200, Redefined Horizons wrote:
I then removed and reinstalled
> gnome, thinking that this was the problem. Niether of these actions
> solved the problem.
Did you "purge" the Gnome packages before reinstallin
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 06:53:10AM -0700, debian-user@lists.debian.org wrote:
CNET News.com (http://www.news.com/)
This story has been sent to you on behalf of debian-user@lists.debian.org
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By Renai LeMay
The newly launched Li
After relocating my Linux drive to my new computer, I've been able to
resolve most problems; however a few remain:
Audio -- ???
Video -- i810 works (Direct Rendering: NO), however i915 doesn't
# lspci -v (excerpts)
:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High
Defini
Hello,
Sorry for such a long post at such a busy time. I think this issue is
important but my timing is bad. It just worked out that way I'm afraid.
For the last week I have been monitoring the linux.debian.user gateway
for apparently well intended posts which never make it to the list. I
hav
According to Roberto C. Sanchez,
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:48:26PM +0100, Chris Robinson wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I think Sarge is super, but can anyone tell me where to find out whats on
> > disks
> > 1-14?
> >
> > I have been using Debian for about 2 years, but have not been able to
> > figu
...
> reading it, then I find it quicker to read just the top section of each
> post rather than having to scroll down past everything I've already
> read. ...
I think you are reacting to cases where the responder is too
lazy to trim.
> There isn't a problem with context because I can remember
Abhishek wrote:
> I have written the XFree86 file but when trying the command X or
>startx it is refusing to start but when I am using X -xf86config
>/etc/X11/XFree86 the server is starting but the GNOME env is not
>appearing. The config files r also present in /usr/X11R6. I have herd
>that there
According to Marty,
> Tony Godshall wrote:
> >According to Marty,
> >>Basajaun wrote:
> >>
> >>>For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will
> >>>get updated (or not), take a look at "man apt_preferences".
> >>
> >>Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.c
Hubert Chan wrote:
>(David, I think you're to subtle . . . .
>
>
"too".
D'oh!
As long as we're drifting way off-topic (which is a fun thing to do
sometimes, for a short while):
"you're" means "you are", as in "You're driving too fast".
"your" means "being possessed by you", as in "Your car is
John Carline wrote:
> Personally, I don't care where an individual posts. But, it would make
> my reading/following of threads much easier if I didn't have to
> scroll down to the bottom of post after post in a long string just to
> read the one line added to the 200 I've already read.
And that'
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 06:25:48PM -0400, Angelina Carlton wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:23:21PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
>
> > Also, no new installer this time, which eliminates what I perceive to have
> > been the biggest bottleneck.
>
> How was the installer a bottleneck? AFAIK it was rea
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:10:35PM -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> I know bottom-posting is the preferred protocol here, and so I usually
> respect it (this exception is just to make a point). But just try the
> other way (in a forum where it's accepted), and I think you might find
> you like it
On Thursday 09 June 2005 04:35 pm, Hubert Chan wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:34:53 -0400, Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> > On Thursday 09 June 2005 12:55 pm, David Jardine wrote:
> >> be getting out of hand :)
> >> us a lecture on top posting sometime soon? It seems to
> >> Isn't some a
David Jardine wrote:
> The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems
> to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing".
Not familiar with this enormous confusion.
> Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced
> by sarge without his being ask
On Thursday 09 June 2005 05:26 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 22:06 +0100, Graham Smith wrote:
> --snip--
>
> > PS Have you noticed that there aren't many people who are top posting
> > zealots? I wonder why. Maybe tops posters are just more relaxed and
> > chilled out people. :
I completely agree. Whoever (the attribution is not clear to me)
wrote that crap about top posters vs bottom posters is an arrogant
idiot. Processing information in reverse order is much more
efficient. Unfortunately, lots of people just don't process
information that way.
I know bottom-posti
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:24:18PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote:
> --- Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > hey folks,
> >
> > what tools to people use to do quick drawing or modelling of
> > molecules/chemical reactions/etc? I have tried ghemical and find it
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] FvwmEvent
David Jardine wrote:
Wouldn't things work more smoothly if "stable" and "testing" were
not allowed in /etc/apt/sources.list or anywhere else except as
purely informative descriptions?
I think you mean the debian version as indicated in /etc/apt/apt.conf.
(As somebody else already pointed out
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Sadly, most people (myself included) have no passphrase on their SSH
Hi. Using PKI with no passphrase drops the level of security
significantly (as I'm sure you know).
> keys. I also end up bouncing aroud a variety of machines (some Fedora
> som
Jan Leewe Behrendt wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 9. Juni 2005 21:18 schrieb Jacob S:
So, my point is that I have not seen any evidence to back up your
claims and say that we need to change our style on this list. Newbies
seem to be as capable of learning things as any other user.
In order to prove yo
The enormous confusion arising from the release of sarge seems
to have arisen from the use of the words "stable" and "testing".
Somebody who was running stable didn't want woody to be replaced
by sarge without his being asked. Somebody running testing didn't
want to move from sarge to etch aut
Tony Godshall wrote:
According to Marty,
Basajaun wrote:
>For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will
>get updated (or not), take a look at "man apt_preferences".
Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.conf must
indicate the debian version. e.g. min
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 11:48:26PM +0100, Chris Robinson wrote:
> Hi
>
> I think Sarge is super, but can anyone tell me where to find out whats on
> disks
> 1-14?
>
> I have been using Debian for about 2 years, but have not been able to figure
> out what is on the disks.
>
Stuff.
You more t
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 06:25:48PM -0400, Robert Brockway wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Marty wrote:
>
> PKI makes things much more difficult. An attacker would need both your
> private key and your passphrase to gain entry. Brute forcing an ssh
> daemon that only accepts PKI access is an intra
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:03:32PM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> hey folks,
>
> what tools to people use to do quick drawing or modelling of
> molecules/chemical reactions/etc? I have tried ghemical and find it a
> little bit clumsy, didn't notice anything else with apt-cache. Thanks
> as always f
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 05:54:21PM -0400, Craig Russell wrote:
> Trying to compile the 2.6.8 kernel from the debian source package
> (patched) and I keep on running into this problem after reboot. I
> have gone back and checked to make sure that the ide drivers have been
> compiled in but after 5
My question is two-fold. My primary question as follows:
How can you access windows 2003 shares? I have tried smbmount however I get
the following error:
debian:/backup# smbmount //jupiter/c$ /jupiter -o username=mis/mike
cli_negprot: SMB signing is mandatory and we have disabled it.
4261: proto
What a crock of snobbish BS!
snobbish
adj : befitting or characteristic of those who inclined to social
exclusiveness and who rebuff the advances of people
considered inferior [syn: {clannish}, {cliquish},
{clubby}, {snobby}]
Personally, I don't care where
Hi Flo,
this is the output:
anjuna:~# grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
Name: lilo/runme
Template: lilo/runme
Owners: lilo
Name: lilo/upgrade
Template: lilo/upgrade
Owners: lilo
I grep the upgrade's typescript searching for the lilo prompt but this
is what I found:
anjuna:~# c
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 17:49:27 -0400
"theal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a program that suspect is cause my swap to grow to almost a gig, but
> it would be nice to verify without restarting a very mission critical program.
>
Run ps aux or top and look for programs using a lot of memory.
P
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 20:30:11 +0200, Florian Ernst wrote:
>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Hello *,
>
> On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 06:53:10AM -0700, debian-user@lists.debian.org wrot=
> e:
>> CNET News.com
Guillaume TESSIER wrote:
Hi!
i suscribed to this mailing list some hours ago and my mailbox is
already overcrowded!
Can we acces it with a newsreader? i use pan. But after tryiing
different news servers adress this was not successful
I use Mozilla Thunderbird, and filter the messages f
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Angelina Carlton wrote:
How was the installer a bottleneck? AFAIK it was ready to go weeks
before sarge was released. Just curious.
The only problem I had with the network installer is that it was not able
to find the sites to download the necessary files from. Then again
Hi
I think Sarge is super, but can anyone tell me where to find out whats
on disks 1-14?
I have been using Debian for about 2 years, but have not been able to
figure out what is on the disks.
Regards
Chris
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Robert Wolfe wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Joe Potter wrote:
>
>> No, I would guess they are Winders folks mainly and just have no good
>> reason to offer for top posting. I further think they just don't give a
>> darn about helping others out.
>
>
> Heh thing is is I am a Windoze as well as a De
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 04:35:50PM -0400, Hubert Chan wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:34:53 -0400, Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > On Thursday 09 June 2005 12:55 pm, David Jardine wrote:
> >> be getting out of hand :)
> >> us a lecture on top posting sometime soon? It seems to
> >> Isn
On Thursday 09 Jun 2005 23:25, Angelina Carlton wrote:
> How was the installer a bottleneck? AFAIK it was ready to go weeks
> before sarge was released. Just curious.
Not sure myself, but I'm guessing the installer held things back for a long
time, and while that was happening, people decided to
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 03:48:28PM -0400, Andrew Schulman wrote:
> >> be getting out of hand :)
> >> us a lecture on top posting sometime soon? It seems to
> >> Isn't some authoritative voice on the list going to give
> >
> > My point (with all do respect and no insult intended): You may not like
According to Marty,
> Basajaun wrote:
>
> >For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will
> >get updated (or not), take a look at "man apt_preferences".
>
> Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.conf must
> indicate the debian version. e.g. mine contains
Wim De Smet wrote:
I think it's not necessarily wrong to use top posting. I just feel
like both manners of posting have their place. When you are just
including a mail for reference to something, and then make a reply
that is partly unrelated, I don't mind top posting. When it's a
discussion lik
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:23:21PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> Also, no new installer this time, which eliminates what I perceive to have
> been the biggest bottleneck.
How was the installer a bottleneck? AFAIK it was ready to go weeks
before sarge was released. Just curious.
--
Angelina Carlton
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Marty wrote:
> Regarding PKI, are there any Debian or non-Debian packages you recommend
Hi Marty. The ssh related packages in Debian contain everything you need.
> for this use? Can you elaborate on your reasoning here, for a
> non-expert in security, or at least point to
> [...]
> I understand the reasons why bottom posting is supposed to be better but
> if I am following the thread, which is normally the case if I'm actually
> reading it, then I find it quicker to read just the top section of each
> post rather than having to scroll down past everything I've alrea
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Thomas Adam wrote:
> --- Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > hey folks,
> >
> > what tools to people use to do quick drawing or modelling of
> > molecules/chemical reactions/etc? I have tried ghemical and find it
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] FvwmEvent]$ apt-cache search
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 14:34:53 -0400, Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thursday 09 June 2005 12:55 pm, David Jardine wrote:
>> be getting out of hand :)
>> us a lecture on top posting sometime soon? It seems to
>> Isn't some authoritative voice on the list going to give
[...]
> With that
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:06:11 +0100, Graham Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I actually prefer top posting ... I find it quicker to read just
>the top section of each post rather than having to scroll down past
>everything I've already read.
Perhaps, when people are too lazy to trim. But notice
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Joe Potter wrote:
No, I would guess they are Winders folks mainly and just have no good
reason to offer for top posting. I further think they just don't give a
darn about helping others out.
Heh thing is is I am a Windoze as well as a Debian user (I run the x86
version of
Jin Juku wrote:
> I guess I really am a newbie, because I have no idea what this
> top-posting business is supposed to mean ... we're not supposed to
> send new, clean messages to the list ...?
He just meant you're supposed to post at the bottom of the original text
when you are replying.
>
> -j
Graham Smith wrote:
> Lech Karol Pawłaszek wrote:
>
> PS Have you noticed that there aren't many people who are top posting
> zealots? I wonder why. Maybe tops posters are just more relaxed and
> chilled out people. :o)
>
>
No, I would guess they are Winders folks mainly and just have no goo
On (09/06/05 14:07), Marty wrote:
> Basajaun wrote:
>
> >For understanding what version you are running, and what packages will
> >get updated (or not), take a look at "man apt_preferences".
>
> Good point. Specifically, the apt conffile /etc/apt/apt.conf must
> indicate the debian version. e.g.
>> be getting out of hand :)
>> us a lecture on top posting sometime soon? It seems to
>> Isn't some authoritative voice on the list going to give
>
> My point (with all do respect and no insult intended): You may not like top
> posting, but all of us on the 'net, even in technical groups like t
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