Re: RE: Re: Approved (KMM1415175V92816L0KM)

2004-08-08 Thread Dadiezangel03
Hello How are you doing? i am doing good but i am having some problems with my yahoo account. i want to delete my yahoo account. How do i do that? I have tried to do it by following the instructions but it says page can not be displayed. if you could get back with me asap it would gre

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-08 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-08-08, Tim Connors penned: > "Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 8 Aug 2004 > 10:05:12 -0600: > > I suggest that gmane is the wrong tool for the job - I;ve heard plenty > of people say it sucks for mailing lists, and this appears to be > another case (actually, google seem

Re: Loading kernel modules at startup

2004-08-08 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from John Van Lierde: > > I'm trying to get lm_sensors working. I'm at the point where it works when I > manually load the modules: > > modprobe i2c_sensor > modprobe i2c_piix4 > modprobe w83781d > > and I can read temperatures and voltages and everything. > > But I'm absolutely

Re: Loading kernel modules at startup

2004-08-08 Thread dircha
John Van Lierde wrote: But I'm absolutely baffled as to how to get the modules to load automagically at boot. There are a bunch of utilities (some apparently obsolescent) and files (all of which seem to say that they are generated and not to be edited). I've poked through all the man pages that see

Re: USB Memory

2004-08-08 Thread Glenn Meehan
On Mon, 2004-08-09 at 05:55, Max wrote: > On Sunday 08 August 2004 09:34, Glenn Meehan wrote: > > I'm trying to read some usb memory. I can read it in windows. I can't > > read it with debian. > > > also > > root:/proc/scsi> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/memstick > > mount: /dev/sda1 is not a vali

using two vga adapters

2004-08-08 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi, I've got an Intel 815e motherboard with On-board VGA. I've also added a Sis AGP card onto it. Both are supported well by the kernel. I'm using both kernel 2.4.25 and 2.6.3 on sarge. Can I use both the vga cards ? Say, in framebuffer modes. One as f

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2004-08-08 Thread John L Fjellstad
Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Why not just use an IMAP server that has one? Modify settings to taste. > > I use courier-imap-ssl, I haven't seen a problem yet. Didn't know courier-imap actually let you do autoexpire... Actually, right now I'm doing pop on my laptop. Won't be able

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-08 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-08-09, Tim Connors penned: > > What I am saying, is all of these discussion lists have differnt > policies. It's kind of silly expecting people to remember which > policy belongs to which list, and blasting people when they get it > wrong. My understanding is that gmane translates my Mail

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2004-08-08 Thread John L Fjellstad
Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > 6. It must have a decent expiry system. >> >> You don't need a mailclient to have a decent expiry system if you are >> using Maildir. Since all new mail goes into {MAILBOXNAME}/new and all >> read mail goes into {MAILBOXNAME}/cur, you can use this sc

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Loading kernel modules at startup

2004-08-08 Thread John Van Lierde
Hi, I'm trying to get lm_sensors working. I'm at the point where it works when I manually load the modules: modprobe i2c_sensor modprobe i2c_piix4 modprobe w83781d and I can read temperatures and voltages and everything. But I'm absolutely baffled as to how to get the modules to load auto

Dependencies Problem

2004-08-08 Thread Umar Draz
hi dear members!     i have question about dependencies. I want to install qmail thats why i need courier-imap and courier-imap-ssl. when i want to install courier-imap i face dependcey of exim but i don't want to install exim.     so please help me how i can ignore dependcies is it possible?   tha

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, George Roman wrote: > > > i never heard about popcon :) and i use debian (woody&sarge&sid) for > almost 2 years. > You should. This is a better way for all of us to figure out the popularity and usage of debian. And in no way it ha

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread bob parker
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:21, William Ballard wrote: > On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 02:07:31PM +1000, bob parker wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 13:20, John Summerfield wrote: > > > As for the money, I learned to write financial applications in COBOL. > > > Whoops, it's extremely rusty. > > > mony PIC S9(11v3

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Katipo
Paul Scott wrote: A message was just posted to Debian development with the subject: "Please participate in popularity-contest" If you are not using popularity-contest it would help the developers know your priorities if more of you would install and use it. Paul Scott I always have. I look on it

Re: Linux Support Los Angeles

2004-08-08 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, Kent West wrote: > Scott Wiseman wrote: > > > http://www.avidware.net > > They really need to get a proof-reader on their home page. Really. After > about 16 errors before I got halfway through the page, I gave up. If > they want to be considered professionals, they shoul

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Katipo
Joey Hess wrote: Carl Fink wrote: > The only real difference from the older boot-floppies is > autodetection of hardware, which almost works some of the time. It works for about 95% of our users based on installation reports. I expect that 90% of our users don't bother to file reports -- I've no

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread William Ballard
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 02:07:31PM +1000, bob parker wrote: > On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 13:20, John Summerfield wrote: > > > As for the money, I learned to write financial applications in COBOL. > > Whoops, it's extremely rusty. > > mony PIC S9(11v3) COMP-3. > > and in PL/1 > > money fixed dec(11,3). >

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Katipo
Paul Johnson wrote: Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:05:51PM +0200, Patrick Donker wrote: > >> I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... Whats so special >> about it? > > The only real difference from the older boot-floppies is > autodetection of hardware,

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread bob parker
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 13:20, John Summerfield wrote: > As for the money, I learned to write financial applications in COBOL. > Whoops, it's extremely rusty. > mony PIC S9(11v3) COMP-3. > and in PL/1 > money fixed dec(11,3). COBOL, such a beutiful language! If a total overflows the destination field

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Damon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 08 August 2004 09:48 pm, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:43:16PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:49:33PM -0300, Joey Hess wrote: > > > - grub as the boot loader > > > > Not for me -- I use LILO. > > Thi

raid Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Alvin Oga
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Paul Gear wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: .. > > - software RAID support > > But not on /boot or /. I find this just unfathomable. What do i do if > the disk containing / dies? if raid is configured properly ... it will still boot ... if / is on /dev/hda and /dev/hdc ... a

grub/lilo - Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya john On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, John Summerfield wrote: > >This is the major thing that annoys me. Which moron is it that > >decided GRUB is better i still like that comment :-) lots of good and bad morons .. but all wants it to be "better" ... > grub _is_ better. How could you think otherwi

Re: Linux Support Los Angeles

2004-08-08 Thread Kent West
Scott Wiseman wrote: http://www.avidware.net They really need to get a proof-reader on their home page. Really. After about 16 errors before I got halfway through the page, I gave up. If they want to be considered professionals, they should really "dress the part". -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread William Ballard
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:20:38AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > John Hasler wrote: > >I have no objection to the C, but I'm a bit put off by the astonishing > >number of Gnome libraries. > I guess if you're using Gnome anyway you don't care. Gnome 1.x libraries. That's why I don't use it. Las

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
John Hasler wrote: John Summerfield writes: Oh, it bothers me a bit that gnucash is written in C. A witches brew of C and Scheme, actually. C isn't designed to handle money. Or text. I have no objection to the C, but I'm a bit put off by the astonishing number of Gnome libraries.

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer? - moron

2004-08-08 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya thomas On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:43:16PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:49:33PM -0300, Joey Hess wrote: > > > - grub as the boot loader > > > > Not for me -- I use LILO. > > This is the major thing that annoys me. Which m

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Thomas Adam wrote: On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:46:55AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: In the past week I've done two GUI installs. Both were easier than d-i. "easier". Easier translates to easier, quicker. All the same benefits one gets from a GUI desktop can be realised in an installer

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Gear
Joey Hess wrote: > ... > Anyway, no, hardware autodetection is not the only new feature compared > to the boot floppies. Off the top of my head a few other user-visible > features: > ... > - software RAID support But not on /boot or /. I find this just unfathomable. What do i do if the disk co

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Gear
John Summerfield wrote: > ... >> Its also much easier to use then the woody one, by default uses simple >> options so it can be used by linux newbies without holding a book in >> the other hand a >> > > I'm not so sure about that. I find the partitionaer far too confusing. Agreed - Progeny's port

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Thomas Adam wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:43:16PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:49:33PM -0300, Joey Hess wrote: - grub as the boot loader Not for me -- I use LILO. This is the major thing that annoys me. Which moron is it that decided GRUB is better, and

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread John Hasler
John Summerfield writes: > Oh, it bothers me a bit that gnucash is written in C. A witches brew of C and Scheme, actually. > C isn't designed to handle money. Or text. I have no objection to the C, but I'm a bit put off by the astonishing number of Gnome libraries. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:43:16PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:49:33PM -0300, Joey Hess wrote: > > - grub as the boot loader > > Not for me -- I use LILO. This is the major thing that annoys me. Which moron is it that decided GRUB is better, and so you'll use that regard

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 06:49:33PM -0300, Joey Hess wrote: > It works for about 95% of our users based on installation reports. I > expect that 90% of our users don't bother to file reports -- I've not > seen any from you. I posted one to debian-boot, which no one answered. > Anyway, no, hardwa

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
William Ballard wrote: On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:07:10AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: I'm sure it will work for some businesses, but I suspect not for many. Isn't there some PHP + PostGres accounting package already in Debian? Is that SQL Ledger? That's what businesses need, not a Goo

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:58:57PM +0200, Patrick Donker wrote: > While you're at, could somebody explain to me why it is concidered to be > lame asking for a gui installer? ... I don't think it is. I think it's considered lame to ask for a GUI installer before the actual *function* of the inst

Re: udev, atapi cdrw drives and cdrecord

2004-08-08 Thread Wayne Topa
csj([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On 8. August 2004 at 2:19PM -0400, > Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Otto Wyss([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > > > I am trying to use cdrecord to make a cd. But it seemingly > > > > hangs (forever). It outputs the

Re: I hate it when that happens...

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Gear
John L Fjellstad wrote: > Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>And *always* use 'set -u' in shell scripts. :-) > > > What does that do? I looked in bash manual, and couldn't find > anything... (always ready to learn something new:-) ) It treats an unset variable as an error. Very han

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 11:58:57PM +0200, Patrick Donker wrote: > Carl Fink wrote: > > >On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 02:29:50PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > >>Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > >>>The only real difference from the older boot-floppies is > >>>autodetection of hardw

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Micha Feigin
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:31:04AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > Micha Feigin wrote: > > >On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 03:18:29PM -0500, matt zagrabelny wrote: > > > > > >>On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 15:05, Patrick Donker wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... > >>>What

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread John Hasler
William Ballard writes: > Isn't there some PHP + PostGres accounting package already in Debian? Is > that SQL Ledger? SQL-Ledger is Perl+Postgresql. It has it's own problems. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:46:55AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > In the past week I've done two GUI installs. Both were easier than d-i. "easier". > The only thing against GUI installers is the amount of RAM they require. > However, for new machines that's completely unimportant. That is no

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Patrick Donker: While you're at, could somebody explain to me why it is concidered to be lame asking for a gui installer? I have never quite understood why it is Turn it around. Ask what is to be gained from a GUI installer. Off the top of my head, I'd co

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread William Ballard
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 09:07:10AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: > I'm sure it will work for some businesses, but I suspect not for many. Isn't there some PHP + PostGres accounting package already in Debian? Is that SQL Ledger? That's what businesses need, not a Gooey. Also GnuCash is missing

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-08 Thread Tim Connors
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004, John Summerfield wrote: > > >I personally think that policies on mailing lists shouldn't dictate > >things like reply-to (not that this one has been made publicly known > >other than through your rants), because some people prefer to get a > >reply-to (me, for example - reply-t

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Micha Feigin wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 03:18:29PM -0500, matt zagrabelny wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 15:05, Patrick Donker wrote: I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... Whats so special about it? Its also much easier to use then the woody one, by default uses simple o

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Simon Kitching wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 22:19, Jaap Haitsma wrote: I came across this website http://popcon.debian.org/ It shows statistics how many people have installed a certain package on what kind of system etc. etc. If you want to anonymously report what packages you are using you ha

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Paul Johnson wrote: John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: George Roman wrote: " right" is a relative word. debian is the right choice for me, if others (people who use other dist) prefer to reinstall their systems with each new release it is their business. Which distros need

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Paul Scott wrote: matt zagrabelny wrote: Whatever you can contribute will help. I've never maintained one either but we now have a team of four. I will say more off list. Oh. There's another Matt Z I know who is a dd. I'm less confused now. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Paul Scott wrote: John Summerfield wrote: Paul Scott wrote: I probably will and the previous maintainer suggested this might be a good project for a team which is the other reason I posted here. I have been programming for many years but I am not yet a Debian developer. I will also post that r

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
David P James wrote: On Sun 8 August 2004 03:24, William Ballard wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:08:29AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote: Debian packages: SQL-ledger and KMyMoney2. Anyone have experience or comments on the these packages as replacements for GnuCash? GnuCash is the best o

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
I too use the wrong tool for the job; I am reading this through news://linux.debian.user (newsgroups are so much more convenient that mailing lists, particularly since I already read a dozen newsfroups), which preserves every header, so I can munge them back into something sensible, *except* it do

Re: How to test new installer?

2004-08-08 Thread John Summerfield
Don Jackson wrote: On Sunday 08 August 2004 10:34 am, Jason Rennie wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:45:15AM -0400, stan wrote: I need to build a new "unstable" machine for some testing, and I thought this might be a good oportunity to test the new installer. How does one use it, at this po

Re: Configuration DB

2004-08-08 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 02:42:32PM -0400, Tong ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 13:02:36 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sat, 2004-08-07 at 15:09, Tong wrote: > >> Yes, that is my question -- is there any way to avoid those hard and > >> tedious questions, since I've answered the

Re: Duplicates driving me crazy

2004-08-08 Thread Alvin Oga
hi ya brian On Sun, 8 Aug 2004, Brian Pack wrote: > A good 30% of the traffic I'm receiving on this list are duplicate > posts. Usually immediately following the original message. > > What is going on here, and is there anything I can do to stop it? i bet verizon's mail servers get the incomin

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Tim Connors
Simon Kitching <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Mon, 09 Aug 2004 10:05:07 +1200: > I think a better way to measure the number of debian installs would be > for security.debian.org to count unique IP addresses. While lots of > people won't have popularity-contest installed, a large majority of them > wil

bsd disklabel & kernel 2.6

2004-08-08 Thread junopr
Hi all. I'm having trouble mounting FreeBSD slices. I am able to mount The first slice with: % mount -r -t ufs -o ufstype=ufs2 /dev/hdc1 /mnt/bsd But I can't access anything else. After googling around a bit, it looks like I should see the partitions at boot, but I don't: % dmesg | grep hdc1

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Tim Connors
Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 08 Aug 2004 15:07:19 -0700: > Matthew T. Atkinson wrote: > > >'ello, > > > >I use popcon on my relatively new Sarge box. Problem is that there is a > >bug preventing the mails from getting out to Debian's machines. So it > >could be that even people us

Re: Bogus reply-to

2004-08-08 Thread Tim Connors
"Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 8 Aug 2004 10:05:12 -0600: > On 2004-08-08, Tim Connors penned: > >:0 a: > > .duplicates > > > > Do I really need to repeat for the hundredth time that I read > debian-user through gmane, ie, as a newsgroup, so that your procmail > recipe does p

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Scott
Katipo wrote: There is an associated German developed package called hbci-gnucash, or gnucash-hbci you might like to check out in association with this, also. Thanks, Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 03:18:29PM -0500, matt zagrabelny wrote: > On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 15:05, Patrick Donker wrote: > > I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... > > Whats so special about it? > > > Its also much easier to use then the woody one, by default uses simple options so it can

Re: How to test new installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:19:15AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:45:15AM -0400, stan wrote: > > I need to build a new "unstable" machine for some testing, and I thought > > this might be a good oportunity to test the new installer. > > > > How does one use it, at this po

Re: udev, atapi cdrw drives and cdrecord

2004-08-08 Thread csj
On 8. August 2004 at 2:19PM -0400, Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Otto Wyss([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > I am trying to use cdrecord to make a cd. But it seemingly > > > hangs (forever). It outputs the information below and then > > > suspends (and ctrl C does not

Problem running PHP4 with Apache

2004-08-08 Thread [KS]
Hi, I just did an upgrade with apt-get which included upgrades to php4 in addition to others. After the upgrade, php is not running with apache. I checked and the lines for application/x-httpd-php and they are uncommented. AddType application/x-httpd-php .php AddType application/x-httpd-php-sourc

Re: [NEWBIE] Installing PHP and Apache on Debian

2004-08-08 Thread Ryan Vilim
More or less, but as with most things it is slightly more complicated than that. First off, there are quite a few optional php modules, mcrypt, mysql, gd and what have you, apt-cache search php should show you all of them (look for the php4- prefix). Although I am not positive (its been a while

firewall rule for saned (shorewall)

2004-08-08 Thread Micha Feigin
Is there a way to setup an access rule to allow access to saned or a way to set it up to use a static port (it seems that it opens random ports, at least through inetd). I am using shorewall if that affects the answer. I am trying to also limit access to the firewall from the inside since it tunn

Re: Installing PHP and Apache on Debian

2004-08-08 Thread Douglas Ward
On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 16:18 -0500, wrote: > Hi. > > I plan to install PHP and Apache on a new, virgin (remote) Debian server, with PHP > running as an Apache shared module. > Can I do that using "apt-get install"? Would I simply run "apt-get install php4" (is > that the correct notaton?) and wi

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Patrick Donker
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Patrick Donker: While you're at, could somebody explain to me why it is concidered to be lame asking for a gui installer? I have never quite understood why it is Turn it around. Ask what is to be gained from a GUI installer. Off the top of my head, I'd compare S

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Patrick Donker: > > While you're at, could somebody explain to me why it is concidered to be > lame asking for a gui installer? I have never quite understood why it is Turn it around. Ask what is to be gained from a GUI installer. Off the top of my head, I'd compare SuSE' YAST t

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread Katipo
Paul Scott wrote: I just noticed that Debian packages for GnuCash: http://lists.debian.org/debian-wnpp/2004/03/msg00714.html and GnuCash-doc: http://lists.debian.org/debian-wnpp/2004/04/msg00121.html have been orphaned for some time. I will consider doing what it takes to maintain those pac

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Scott
Matthew T. Atkinson wrote: 'ello, I use popcon on my relatively new Sarge box. Problem is that there is a bug preventing the mails from getting out to Debian's machines. So it could be that even people using popcon are not being counted. Not sure if the bug has been fixed yet; I remember apt-list

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Simon Kitching
On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 22:19, Jaap Haitsma wrote: > I came across this website http://popcon.debian.org/ > It shows statistics how many people have installed a certain package on > what kind of system etc. etc. If you want to anonymously report what > packages you are using you have to have the po

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Patrick Donker
Carl Fink wrote: On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 02:29:50PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The only real difference from the older boot-floppies is autodetection of hardware, which almost works some of the time. That's not true. debian-installer will also allow for mor

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Scott
matt zagrabelny wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 02:08, Paul Scott wrote: (snip) Anyone interested in helping me maintain GnuCash and/or GnuCash-doc? i really enjoy gnucash and would hate to see it not actively maintained on debian. ive never maintained a package before but would be interested

Re: Debian GnuCash packages orphaned

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Scott
John Summerfield wrote: Paul Scott wrote: I probably will and the previous maintainer suggested this might be a good project for a team which is the other reason I posted here. I have been programming for many years but I am not yet a Debian developer. I will also post that request at debian-d

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Patrick Donker
Joey Hess wrote: Carl Fink wrote: The only real difference from the older boot-floppies is autodetection of hardware, which almost works some of the time. It works for about 95% of our users based on installation reports. I expect that 90% of our users don't bother to file reports -- I've not seen

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 02:29:50PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The only real difference from the older boot-floppies is > > autodetection of hardware, which almost works some of the time. > > That's not true. debian-installer will also allow for more t

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Joey Hess
Carl Fink wrote: > The only real difference from the older boot-floppies is > autodetection of hardware, which almost works some of the time. It works for about 95% of our users based on installation reports. I expect that 90% of our users don't bother to file reports -- I've not seen any from you

RAID does not start automatically

2004-08-08 Thread Clement
I have setup several RAID based systems already, include a few with exactly the same software combination. But this one just does not start the RAID automatically. The partition type is fd for Linux raid autodetect. When booted, these are reported: md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread matt zagrabelny
On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 16:20, Carl Fink wrote: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:05:51PM +0200, Patrick Donker wrote: > > I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... > > Whats so special about it? > > The only real difference from the older boot-floppies is > autodetection of hardware, which almost

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:05:51PM +0200, Patrick Donker wrote: >> I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... >> Whats so special about it? > > The only real difference from the older boot-floppies is > autodetection of hardware, which almost works som

Re: [NEWBIE] Installing PHP and Apache on Debian

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Please fix your misconfigured mail client: Turn line wrap to 72 columns and throw an extra line feed in between paragraphs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I plan to install PHP and Apache on a new, virgin (remote) Debian > server, with PHP running as an Apache shared module. OK. > Can I do that us

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 10:05:51PM +0200, Patrick Donker wrote: > I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... > Whats so special about it? The only real difference from the older boot-floppies is autodetection of hardware, which almost works some of the time. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Joris Huizer
Patrick Donker wrote: matt zagrabelny wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 15:05, Patrick Donker wrote: I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... Whats so special about it? quoting joey hess: The Debian-Installer team announces the first release candidate of the Debian sarge installer. Significant

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
Patrick Donker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... > Whats so special about it? Google for debian-installer pgp0H2RRnLKhA.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Want anonymous proxy server IP address mapping utility

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Thus far, my web searches have not turned up anything like the > Windows "multiproxy", "winnow", etc. utilities for Linux. > I know I can set up for anonymous proxy use on a one-at-a-time > basis, but I want the (very useful) additional features > of the above mentioned

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > George Roman wrote: > >>" right" is a relative word. debian is the right choice for me, if others >>(people who use other dist) prefer to reinstall their systems with each >>new release it is their business. > > Which distros need to be reinstalled fo

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 08, 2004 at 12:19:54PM +0200, Jaap Haitsma wrote: >> Are there only around 1000 debian users on the world (assumption 60% of >> them sends reports) > > Why would you assume that? I don't use popcon; it's possible that 99.9% > of users do

[NEWBIE] Installing PHP and Apache on Debian

2004-08-08 Thread debian
Hi. I plan to install PHP and Apache on a new, virgin (remote) Debian server, with PHP running as an Apache shared module. Can I do that using "apt-get install"? Would I simply run "apt-get install php4" (is that the correct notaton?) and will that take care of everything else (including insta

Re: How to make a boot disk?

2004-08-08 Thread Paul Johnson
"Juhani Vainio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I installed Sarge from net. The installation program did not propose to make > starting diskette. I installed grub to mbr and everything is ok, but I want to > make also a starting disket. Mr Murphy, you know. Your sarge CD is your emergency boot disk

Duplicates driving me crazy

2004-08-08 Thread Brian Pack
A good 30% of the traffic I'm receiving on this list are duplicate posts. Usually immediately following the original message. What is going on here, and is there anything I can do to stop it? I'm using evolution 1.4.6 if that's any help. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed m

Re: Openoffice has stopped working (sarge)

2004-08-08 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Diumenge 08 Agost 2004 21:30, en Joan Tur va escriure: | Es Diumenge 08 Agost 2004 19:14, en matt zagrabelny va escriure: | | On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 11:46, Joan Tur wrote: | | > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | | > Hash: SHA1 | | > | | > Hallo! |

Re: Openoffice has stopped working (sarge)

2004-08-08 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Diumenge 08 Agost 2004 20:34, en Raúl Alexis Betancort Santana va escriure: | El Domingo 08 Agosto 2004 20:30, Joan Tur escribió: | > No luck. After 30 minutes it still hasn't started };) | | Just delete all the temp files of OO, moreover the one

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Patrick Donker
matt zagrabelny wrote: On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 15:05, Patrick Donker wrote: I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... Whats so special about it? quoting joey hess: The Debian-Installer team announces the first release candidate of the Debian sarge installer. Significant improvements in this r

How do I "multi_CD" on dselect w/o menu option?

2004-08-08 Thread God bless us all, everyone.
Thanks to everyone, I've gotten a 'boot;'Herein the difficulty:  dselect does not prompt for a multi-CD install.Can this be remedied?  Base.debs had been from the 1.44 floppyimages, I think from ftp.us.debian.org, but I'd mixed a few links from the end of the installation guide.   A secondary thin

Re: Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread matt zagrabelny
On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 15:05, Patrick Donker wrote: > I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... > Whats so special about it? > quoting joey hess: The Debian-Installer team announces the first release candidate of the Debian sarge installer. Significant improvements in this release of the i

Re: USB Memory

2004-08-08 Thread matt zagrabelny
On Sun, 2004-08-08 at 14:55, Max wrote: > On Sunday 08 August 2004 09:34, Glenn Meehan wrote: > > I'm trying to read some usb memory. I can read it in windows. I can't > > read it with debian. > > > also > > root:/proc/scsi> mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/memstick > > mount: /dev/sda1 is not a vali

Re: Openoffice has stopped working (sarge)

2004-08-08 Thread Wayne Topa
Joan Tur([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hallo! > > Openoffice seems not to work any more. I've tryed running it as user and root > with no luck (sarge version = 1.1.2). > > - - > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ooffice > OpenOffice.o

Re: How popular is Debian (popularity contest)

2004-08-08 Thread Matthew T. Atkinson
'ello, I use popcon on my relatively new Sarge box. Problem is that there is a bug preventing the mails from getting out to Debian's machines. So it could be that even people using popcon are not being counted. Not sure if the bug has been fixed yet; I remember apt-listbugs telling me about it

Whats with this new Debian installer?

2004-08-08 Thread Patrick Donker
I hear alot of fuzz about 'the new installer'... Whats so special about it? -Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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