"Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Sun, 8 Aug 2004 10:05:12 -0600: > On 2004-08-08, Tim Connors penned: > >:0 a: > > .duplicates > > > > Do I really need to repeat for the hundredth time that I read > debian-user through gmane, ie, as a newsgroup, so that your procmail > recipe does precisely diddly for me??
I read that after posting. I suggest that gmane is the wrong tool for the job - I;ve heard plenty of people say it sucks for mailing lists, and this appears to be another case (actually, google seem to be really doing a good job at making sucky UIs and not implementing proper protocols - witness google groups 2 and how it doesn't set and preserve "References:"; but I digress). But anyway... > Sorry. I've just gotten that response a ton of times, and 1) it doesn't > help me, and 2) it's beside the point. I shouldn't *have* to do any of > this -- d-u has a policy against cc'ing unless requested, and I set my > mail headers appropriately. I too use the wrong tool for the job; I am reading this through news://linux.debian.user (newsgroups are so much more convenient that mailing lists, particularly since I already read a dozen newsfroups), which preserves every header, so I can munge them back into something sensible, *except* it doesn't preserve Reply-To (for your posts, it sets "Mail-Copies-To: never", which I use in my script to detect people not wanting reply-tos). Possibly this is why people reply-to you directly. I personally think that policies on mailing lists shouldn't dictate things like reply-to (not that this one has been made publicly known other than through your rants), because some people prefer to get a reply-to (me, for example - reply-to means I can see any responses to me straight away without having to wait for the mailing list to do its thing), and I think it clutters the list to say "please reply to me". Let your mailer do its thing (set your own reply-to[1] as necessary, as you do), and hope that everyone respects it. There's also the issue that differnt mailing lists adopting different practices means that no-one can actually keep track of which practice is used where, so they just use the one that is most convenient for them. [1] Even if Reply-To is considered harmful (http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html), and causes some mailers to drop the mailing list off the list of CCs, and will end up replying only to your single bogus address. -- TimC -- http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/staff/tconnors/ But if I ever have a child, I will certainly be naming it "Sun Microsystems". -- Hipatia -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
