Re: newbiedoc error [Re: Testing URIs not working]

2003-11-07 Thread Tom
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 04:51:22AM +, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 04:58:15PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > > Tom([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 01:04:25PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > > apt-cache search newbiedoc > > > > > newbiedoc > >

Re: Abiword in testing unusable

2003-11-07 Thread Ross Boylan
I've been waiting for Abiword to migrate to testing for a long time. The fact that it hasn't is blocking seemingly not related upgrades, like pan. Does anyone have any additional info on when or if this will be fixed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Java on linux

2003-11-07 Thread Hoai Nguyen
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Re: heres my noob install questions, smart people please help

2003-11-07 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 07:22:18AM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > In linux or windows I dont qualify as smart but I have some experience with > this subject. I think you are under some misconception about whats > happening. I really don't think I'm the one with the misconception. > I had a wind

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 12:27:21PM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > In regards to the roommates at least, they both use Debian and know > enough about it to do some basic functions from a terminal. As such, I > could tell them what to do over the phone without having to hold their > hands through th

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 03:54:27PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:16:28 -0800, Cam Ellison wrote: > > >* Mark Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >> > >> > > > >> I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org > >> says is the latest stable one. > >> > >Seri

Re: newbiedoc error [Re: Testing URIs not working]

2003-11-07 Thread Pigeon
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 04:58:15PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > Tom([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 01:04:25PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > > > apt-cache search newbiedoc > > > > newbiedoc > > > > I thought I'd read newbiedoc. The read a bit about runlevel

Re: ClamAV's working w/ Exim4!

2003-11-07 Thread BruceG
- Original Message - From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:32 PM Subject: ClamAV's working w/ Exim4! > I went here: http://ursine.ca/~baloo/clamd-exiscan.txt and followed the > steps. Got ClamAV working per the info.

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 03:54:27PM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:16:28 -0800, Cam Ellison wrote: > >* Mark Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > >> I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org > >> says is the latest stable one. > >> > >Seriously -- get

clamscan avavis spamassassin with exim4 on sarge

2003-11-07 Thread Hanasaki JiJi
Anyone have/working on integration of these? clam spamc and amavis are installed however, they dont seem to update the /etc/exim4/conf.d thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread cr
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 10:28, Mike Mueller wrote: > On Friday 07 November 2003 13:27, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 11:45, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:01:58AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > As in "proprietary, closed-source apps"? > > > > > > > > Well, th

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread cr
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 07:27, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 11:45, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:01:58AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > As in "proprietary, closed-source apps"? > > > > > > Well, that depends on if you see them as a "problem", or something > > > t

Re: heres my noob install questions, smart people please help

2003-11-07 Thread cr
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 02:22, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "ScruLoose" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 21:47 > Subject: Re: heres my noob install questions, smart people please help > > In linux or windows I dont qualify as

Re: Mainframe & thin-client (was Re: Microsoft good press over Longhorn)

2003-11-07 Thread cr
To wind this down a bit (massive snippage) > > > > Thin Clients might be suitable for copy typists, data entry clerks > > > > and Dumb Users.Certainly not for engineers or anybody who's > > > > likely to be reading this list. If we thought Microcrap was the > > > > greatest we wouldn't

ClamAV's working w/ Exim4!

2003-11-07 Thread BruceG
I went here: http://ursine.ca/~baloo/clamd-exiscan.txt and followed the steps. Got ClamAV working per the info. Tested it here: http://www.emailsecuritytest.com/ and here: http://www.declude.com/tools/mailsend.html One test let through 12 out of 17 different virus patteerns. The other wasn't so ho

Re: X server wont start again.

2003-11-07 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Andreas Janssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 17:33 Subject: Re: X server wont start again. > Hello > > Hoyt Bailey (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > I checked XFree86Config-4 and it had changed but I still dont

Re: X wont start again

2003-11-07 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Alex Malinovich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:45 Subject: Re: X wont start again No I cant do anything on line yet my "real modem" just came in not yet installed. Regards: Hoyt -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: X server wont start again.

2003-11-07 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Andreas Janssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 17:33 Subject: Re: X server wont start again. > Hello > > Hoyt Bailey (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > I checked XFree86Config-4 and it had changed but I still do

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread David Palmer.
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 16:28:57 -0500 Mike Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 07 November 2003 13:27, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 11:45, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:01:58AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > As in "proprietary, closed-source app

Re: Yahoo says I'm a Spam-o-Rama (via DynDNS)

2003-11-07 Thread Haines Brown
> From: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > There is no need for a static IP to do this properly, and dynamic > DNS is irrelevant. The issue is that you're trying to send mail > directly from a dynamic *IP address*. People on dynamic IP addresses > should always relay mail through some other machi

Re: Off to the Docs. I go (Exim4 working, fetchmail busted)

2003-11-07 Thread Benedict Verheyen
- Original Message - From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 2:26 AM Subject: Off to the Docs. I go (Exim4 working, fetchmail busted) > Thought things were working. Just low mail volume. Exim4 seems to be happily > chuggi

Re: Testing URIs not working

2003-11-07 Thread Wayne Topa
Colin Watson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 04:49:02PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > > Haines Brown([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > Just to show you I'm in a "learning mode", when I could not install > > > doc-linux-nonfree-text, I ran apt-cac

Off to the Docs. I go (Exim4 working, fetchmail busted)

2003-11-07 Thread BruceG
Thought things were working. Just low mail volume. Exim4 seems to be happily chugging away, but fetchmail decided not to fetch amymore. Error message below: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ fetchmail 291 messages for griffisb at mail.bellsouth.net (1204270 octets). reading message [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1 of 291 (

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread user list
Speaking of Reader Rabbit, has anyone gotten any of the educational games running under wine? Art Edwards On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 02:52:38PM -0800, Daniel Miller wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 13:20, techlists wrote: > > > > > >>On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 17:52, David Millet

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread Alan Shutko
csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you want desktop publishing on *n*x, you can use Scribus. Is it > better than Quark. Most likely not. But if you want to layout your > small office's newsletter it would do the job just fine. If one doesn't mind a proprietary app, Pagestream[1] is a very po

Re: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + clamav(clamd)- Help!)

2003-11-07 Thread Benedict Verheyen
- Original Message - From: "BruceG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: Re: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + clamav(clamd)- Help!) > Another WooHoo! > > The problem was not with my Exim4 Smarthost co

Re: X server wont start again.

2003-11-07 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Hoyt Bailey (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I checked XFree86Config-4 and it had changed but I still dont know > how. The change was the driver and the video card. > OldNew > nvidianvDriver > GeForce4 MX440Generic Video Card > > I

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread Mark Healey
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 15:16:28 -0800, Cam Ellison wrote: >* Mark Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> > >> I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org >> says is the latest stable one. >> >Seriously -- get kernel-source-2.4.22. I fought with the stock kernel >for weeks, an

Re: Desktop hostname?

2003-11-07 Thread user list
I use exim on every one of my debian machines. Did you let it know to use a smart-host? You probably need to know the name of the mail server at our ISP. Regarding your hostname, you can specify what you email address should be (usually set by your ISP). The local host name shouldn't matter. Art

Re: X server wont start again.

2003-11-07 Thread David Jardine
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 04:58:43PM -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > I checked XFree86Config-4 and it had changed but I still dont know how. The > change was the driver and the video card. > OldNew > nvidianvDriver > GeForce4 MX440Generic Video

Re: using exim directly instead of smarthost

2003-11-07 Thread Cam Ellison
* Benedict Verheyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > If i understand correctly all of the above: > 1. I could use exim on my server to relay all mail for me except to > hotmail and yahoo. > 2. I can setup everything at my isp's so that mail to my domain will be > sent over to my pc. > I have exactly

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 12:11:37AM -0800, Mark Healey wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 21:34:57 -0600, Kent West wrote: > >I would suggest (modestly?) that you read "Kent's 10-Step Procedure to > >Compiling a Debian Kernel", which is the bottom section of "README.gz" > >in /usr/share/doc/kernel-packag

Re: Desktop hostname?

2003-11-07 Thread David Jardine
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 02:33:49PM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: > I'm an average-Joe user on a lone desktop machine connected to the internet > through a cable modem & router. Currently, I have my hostname set to 'Moe', > simply because I think Moe is a good name for my computer. This seems to

Re: [OT] routing failed

2003-11-07 Thread David Jardine
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 10:30:00AM +0800, csj wrote: > I'm using exim 3.36. When sending mail to one mailing list (most > obviously *not* Debian because you're reading this post) I get > the following error: > > 2003-11-07 09:54:55 routing failed for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > unrouteable mail domain "

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread Lance Simmons
* csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031107 16:17]: > Do you want desktop publishing on *n*x, you can use Scribus. Is it > better than Quark. Most likely not. But if you want to layout your > small office's newsletter it would do the job just fine. According to an article in last month's _Linux Journal_,

Re: Going to give it another shot-need more help

2003-11-07 Thread Cam Ellison
* Mark Healey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > I've managed to get the tarball for 2.4.22 which is what kernel.org > says is the latest stable one. > Seriously -- get kernel-source-2.4.22. I fought with the stock kernel for weeks, and could not get it to work. It would compile, but hang part

Re: X server wont start again.

2003-11-07 Thread Hoyt Bailey
I checked XFree86Config-4 and it had changed but I still dont know how. The change was the driver and the video card. OldNew nvidianvDriver GeForce4 MX440Generic Video Card I changed it back to the old config it still wont start and the o

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 16:54, ScruLoose wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 02:58:48AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > > > If not, any other possibilities? > > Olkay, I see there's been plenty of discussion of the ins and outs of > the self-locking one-shot root privilege thing. Neat idea, too; it'

Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-07 Thread Alan Shutko
Greg Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The original image claims to be 8-bit... it's approximately 3 times the > size of the gif version. That looks like it's 8 bits per color, or 24 bpp. What does identify -verbose say about it? -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. DOS Gang

Re: pg database hosed in update - help!

2003-11-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:48:28PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > Stopping and restarting the postmaster > /var/lib/postgres/dumpall/7.3/postmaster -D /var/lib/postgres/data -p 5431 -o > -d0 > /var/lib/postgres/dumpall/7.3/postmaster: error while loading shared > libraries: libkrb5.so.17: cannot

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread ScruLoose
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 02:58:48AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > If not, any other possibilities? Olkay, I see there's been plenty of discussion of the ins and outs of the self-locking one-shot root privilege thing. Neat idea, too; it's not something I ever thought of. OTOH I wonder about at

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread Daniel Miller
Ron Johnson wrote: On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 13:20, techlists wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 17:52, David Millet wrote: all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule the desktop, simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big companies start picking it up. a lot of us

pg database hosed in update - help!

2003-11-07 Thread Richard Lyons
Looks like I've really done it now! From a misplaced sense of neatness, I decided to remove the stable and testing sources from sources list did "u" and (after some inspection etc) "g". It looked easy enough, but I got this error announcement: -start quoted text--- S

Re: AMD 64 and Debian

2003-11-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 03:09:53PM -0700, user list wrote: > At an opteron presentation, AMD said that "Debian was doing some wierd > things." with the AMD-64 distribution. Are you doing things differently > than Red Hat did? You might want to talk to debian-amd64 rather than debian-user. Cheers,

Re: Testing URIs not working

2003-11-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 04:49:02PM -0500, Wayne Topa wrote: > Haines Brown([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > Just to show you I'm in a "learning mode", when I could not install > > doc-linux-nonfree-text, I ran apt-cache search and found out that it > > is properly "doc-linux-text".

AMD 64 and Debian

2003-11-07 Thread user list
At an opteron presentation, AMD said that "Debian was doing some wierd things." with the AMD-64 distribution. Are you doing things differently than Red Hat did? Art Edwards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AMD/AGP bug

2003-11-07 Thread user list
I have chatted with people at AMD about the AGP bug and they contend that it is fixed in the in 2.4.20 kernel. Is this true in the debian 2.4.20 kernel sources package? My machine still hangs randomly, and when it does, XFree86 is running at ~98% cpu. Art Edwards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EM

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up [RESOLVED]

2003-11-07 Thread csj
At Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:17:10 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:19:45AM +0800, csj wrote: > > > OPTFLAGS = ... -I/usr/local/src/linux/include > > /usr/local/src/linux should be the linux kernel source code. Apparently yes. I was doing things by trial and error and on

Re: newbiedoc error [Re: Testing URIs not working]

2003-11-07 Thread Hoyt Bailey
- Original Message - From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 12:27 Subject: newbiedoc error [Re: Testing URIs not working] > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 01:04:25PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > > apt-cache search newbiedoc > > > newbiedoc > >

Packages marked for 'purge': dselect/dpkg database broken?

2003-11-07 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Hi all, System is testing/unstable # dpkg-checkbuilddeps dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: cannot read control file debian/control: No such file or directory And when I open a dselect window, most packages are set for "purge". Gnome,only one example of many I could give: In the dselect window this li

Re: Any simple way to add modules w/o recompiling the kernel?

2003-11-07 Thread csj
On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 on 07:30:19 -0500 (EST), Andrew Perrin wrote: > > In expectation of a new palm pilot arriving soon, I need to add > two modules to my system: usbserial and visor. What I've done > in the past is to do a make menuconfig; select the new modules; > make-kpkg clean; make-kpkg --rev

Re: Testing URIs not working

2003-11-07 Thread Wayne Topa
Haines Brown([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > [teach to fish mode] > > Yes, by all means! > > > apt-cache show newbiedoc > > I tried this on an uninstalled package (mysql), and nothing was > returned. But shouldn't this command have e

Re: newbiedoc error [Re: Testing URIs not working]

2003-11-07 Thread Wayne Topa
Tom([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 01:04:25PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > > apt-cache search newbiedoc > > > newbiedoc > > I thought I'd read newbiedoc. The read a bit about runlevels (since I > didn't know about them), the first thing I read is incorre

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread csj
On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 at 12:27:11 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [...] > On the other end of the scale, there are, as far as I know, no > OSS packages comparable to Reader Rabbit or Calendar Creator or > Act! or EndNote or Quark. You can compare Scribus to Quark. > Some are ok, but in many cases, not

Re: Can't build X (unstable and experimental)

2003-11-07 Thread David Z Maze
csj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I can't build either the unstable or experimental versions of > Debian's xfree86 packages (4.2 and 4.3). The build ends with the > following error messages: Why are you building X? Which X? And how? My general recommendation, if you need XFree86 4.3 for hardw

problem with the latest libc6

2003-11-07 Thread John Covici
When using libc6_2.3.2.ds1-10 I am getting errors about improperly built binaries accessing errno or errno_h directly and it refers me to the faq, but the faq says nothing about this problem. It interfered with me sending mail, so this seems to be something important. Any assistance would be appr

Re: Problems installing Zope/Plone

2003-11-07 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:09:17AM -0800, jennyw wrote: | I'm using testing. I tried installing plone, which installed zope. But | zope isn't happy. The README.Debian file says there should be a file | called default in /usr/lib/zope. But there it's not there. Also, when I | try to start Zope (

Re: installing sarge with nforce2

2003-11-07 Thread Cam Ellison
* David Gaudine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Philippe Makowski wrote: > > is the official installation cd of sarge > > (http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/) working with a nforce2 > > chipstet motherboard (especially networking adaptator) ? > > is there a success story ? > > I have

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread Tom
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 04:28:57PM -0500, Mike Mueller wrote: > Let's say you're a barn builder. People need barns and are used to buying > barns now-a-days. You go around to the community and suggest a community > barn-raising project. Everyone agrees but you soon find out the participants

Re: [OT] SCO's crack legal team

2003-11-07 Thread Greg Norris
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 11:34:59PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > Just out of curiousity, did you originally save it as a 24-bit or > 8-bit PNG? IIRC, GIFs are always 8-bit and 8-bit PNGs are comparable > in size. I can understand how a 24-bit PNG would be bigger, but I can't > see how an 8-bit

Re: AAC software hardware

2003-11-07 Thread Jim & Marta McNulty
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 05:50:16PM -0200, Jim & Marta McNulty wrote: < > Seeking eye-driven control over all Linux software including any AAC < > software that can run on a Linux machine. This allows users to speak, < > write e-mail, surf the internet, create documents, or play games through < > e

Re: Hacked: .bash_history linked somewhere

2003-11-07 Thread Mike Egglestone
Quoting "J. Bruce Fields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 10:45:32AM -0800, Mike Egglestone wrote: > > Hi, > > My server was trojaned recently, not sure how. > > It looks like /bin/ps was modified or replaced with > > a trojan. > > Out of curiosity--how can you tell? I could tell

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread Mike Mueller
On Friday 07 November 2003 13:27, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 11:45, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:01:58AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > As in "proprietary, closed-source apps"? > > > > > > Well, that depends on if you see them as a "problem", or something

Re: Hacked: .bash_history linked somewhere

2003-11-07 Thread J. Bruce Fields
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 10:45:32AM -0800, Mike Egglestone wrote: > Hi, > My server was trojaned recently, not sure how. > It looks like /bin/ps was modified or replaced with > a trojan. Out of curiosity--how can you tell? > The /root/.bash_history file is set to this: > > chsslx1:~# ls -la .bas

Re: Desktop hostname?

2003-11-07 Thread Ken Gilmour
Hey Joel, Well it doesn't really matter as far as i know. It might be good to set a proper hostname though. For example, if your Cable Modem provider supply you with a static IP address that has reverse DNS configured for it you might want to set it to that of the rdns address. But if its a dyn

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread Alan Shutko
techlists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As much as I like Wine, and use it myself for some products, I fear that > the wine project may do to linux what win-os/2 did for os/2. If your > system will run win32 apps, what insentive do companies have to develop > native programs for you. Well, Wine

Re: dhcp

2003-11-07 Thread Malcolm Box
Chema wrote: On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 18:15:12 +0800 Robert Storey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: RS> I've had my LAN working well for a long time using static IP RS> addresses(specified in /etc/hosts). RS> RS> Now I would like to play with dhcp, but I found the info in the DHCP is neat. Just that. Unti

Desktop hostname?

2003-11-07 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm an average-Joe user on a lone desktop machine connected to the internet through a cable modem & router. Currently, I have my hostname set to 'Moe', simply because I think Moe is a good name for my computer. This seems to show up in lots of other things, though, like assumed e-mail addresses and

Re: Hacked: .bash_history linked somewhere

2003-11-07 Thread Mike Egglestone
Quoting Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Maybe the file is immutable. Check with > > lsattr .bash_history > > You can use chattr to change it: > > chattr -i .bash_history Yes, that was it. It had a bunch of those permissions set. I chattr'd them all to off, and the file returned to norma

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread John Hasler
Ron writes: > SMOP? Small Matter Of Programming. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 13:20, techlists wrote: > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 17:52, David Millet wrote: > > > > all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule the desktop, > > > > simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big companies > > > > start picking it up. a lot of us wi

Re: virtual terminal not working compaq armada

2003-11-07 Thread navaja
z> Try booting with the parameter vga=normal or vga=791, and see if it solves your problem. If it does, add it to your /etc/lilo.conf (or what boot loader you are using), and run /sbin/lilo. even thought that solved the problem, i seem to get the same problem again now... i have been installing ne

Can't build X (unstable and experimental)

2003-11-07 Thread csj
I can't build either the unstable or experimental versions of Debian's xfree86 packages (4.2 and 4.3). The build ends with the following error messages: #BEGIN STDERR lnx_io.c: In function `KDKBDREP_ioctl_ok': lnx_io.c:90: error: structure has no member named `rate' lnx_io.c:98: error: structure

[OT] routing failed

2003-11-07 Thread csj
I'm using exim 3.36. When sending mail to one mailing list (most obviously *not* Debian because you're reading this post) I get the following error: 2003-11-07 09:54:55 routing failed for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: unrouteable mail domain "localhost.invalid" *** Frozen (delivery error message) I know lo

koffice is broken in sarge

2003-11-07 Thread Johnathon Jamison
Hello, Please cc me, as I am not on the list. Thank you. I just upgraded from woody to sarge yesterday (apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade), and just let apt-get do its thing in deciding what to add/remove. I then found that kde had been removed! So, I fiddled around in dselect, and got a

df reportw wrong numbers

2003-11-07 Thread Ernst Plüss
Hi all If I run df -h on my debian machine, I get the following output debian:~/tmp$ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda3-3233790934511k 1.0k 0.0k 11% / If i do a cat /proc/partitions I get debian:~/tmp$ cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 13:03, John Hasler wrote: > Alan writes: [snip] > with you. The script is a SMOP. SMOP ? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Oh, great altar of passive entertainment, bestow upon me thy

Re: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + clamav(clamd)- Help!)

2003-11-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 12:53, BruceG wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:40 PM > Subject: Re: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + > clamav(clamd)- Help!) > > > >

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread techlists
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 17:52, David Millet wrote: > > > all I have to say is that I personally want linux to rule the desktop, > > > simply because I will stand to make alot of money when big companies > > > start picking it up. a lot of us will, in fact. > > > > > > i'm extremely confident that

Re: Hacked: .bash_history linked somewhere

2003-11-07 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello Mike Egglestone (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > My server was trojaned recently, not sure how. > It looks like /bin/ps was modified or replaced with > a trojan. > The /root/.bash_history file is set to this: > > chsslx1:~# ls -la .bash_history > -rw-r--r--1 root root0 No

Re: Hacked: .bash_history linked somewhere

2003-11-07 Thread Erik Steffl
Mike Egglestone wrote: Hi, My server was trojaned recently, not sure how. It looks like /bin/ps was modified or replaced with a trojan. The /root/.bash_history file is set to this: chsslx1:~# ls -la .bash_history -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Nov 7 05:31 .bash_history and I can't ed

X11 app color problem

2003-11-07 Thread John Smith
Hi All, a more difficult (and not install related ;-) ) X11 challenge: running an X11 app from a remote host, displaying on my local (TrueColor) workstation, it doesn't display colors correctly - a 6 color black, grey, white gif is displayed all black. Some digging revealed that the orig

Problems installing Zope/Plone

2003-11-07 Thread jennyw
I'm using testing. I tried installing plone, which installed zope. But zope isn't happy. The README.Debian file says there should be a file called default in /usr/lib/zope. But there it's not there. Also, when I try to start Zope (zopectl start), it gives this error: Starting Zope instance def

Re: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + clamav(clamd)- Help!)

2003-11-07 Thread BruceG
Another WooHoo! The problem was not with my Exim4 Smarthost configuration, it was with my Hotmail spam filter. In Hotmail you can go into Options, Mail Handling, Junk Mail - and select the level of filtering you want to apply. Mine was set at Enhanced, which immediately put my e-mail server in Jun

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread John Hasler
Alan writes: > ...the person has root and can therefore unlock the password. The person has root and therefore can do anything. That's not the point. The OP is willing to trust his roommate with root for short periods while he is on the phone with him giving him instructions, but he doesn't want

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 12:50, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 12:35, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 10:55, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 09:30, Tom wrote: > > > > * [07/11/2003 16:25] J. Bruce Fields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > > > The all-priv

Re: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + clamav(clamd)- Help!)

2003-11-07 Thread BruceG
- Original Message - From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:40 PM Subject: Re: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + clamav(clamd)- Help!) > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 11:20, BruceG wrote: > > - Origina

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 12:35, Alex Malinovich wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 10:55, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 09:30, Tom wrote: > > > * [07/11/2003 16:25] J. Bruce Fields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > > > The all-privilege sudo is the best idea, since the actions are > > > > >

Hacked: .bash_history linked somewhere

2003-11-07 Thread Mike Egglestone
Hi, My server was trojaned recently, not sure how. It looks like /bin/ps was modified or replaced with a trojan. The /root/.bash_history file is set to this: chsslx1:~# ls -la .bash_history -rw-r--r--1 root root0 Nov 7 05:31 .bash_history and I can't edit it or delete it. It

Re: X wont start again

2003-11-07 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 10:11, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > X was working fine. I looked at the configuration in the gnome control > center dont remember if I changed anything. I did add the following to > /etc/sudoers > hoyt ALL=(ALL) ALL > I dont know what happened but here is the warnings & errors from

Re: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + clamav (clamd)- Help!)

2003-11-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 11:20, BruceG wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:52 AM > Subject: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + clamav (clamd)- > Help!) > > > > On

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 10:55, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 09:30, Tom wrote: > > * [07/11/2003 16:25] J. Bruce Fields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > The all-privilege sudo is the best idea, since the actions are > > > > audited. > > > > > > Though note that the auditing is there to

newbiedoc error [Re: Testing URIs not working]

2003-11-07 Thread Tom
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 01:04:25PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > apt-cache search newbiedoc > > newbiedoc I thought I'd read newbiedoc. The read a bit about runlevels (since I didn't know about them), the first thing I read is incorrect: file:///home/tom/usr/share/doc/newbiedoc/newbiedoc-html/

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 11:45, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:01:58AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > As in "proprietary, closed-source apps"? > > > > Well, that depends on if you see them as a "problem", or something > > that you prefer not to use. > > > > I prefer not to u

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 07:55, J. Bruce Fields wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 02:58:48AM -0600, Alex Malinovich wrote: > > I've decided that it's about time I look for a solution to a problem > > that's been bugging me. On certain occasions, I find it necessary to > > have one of my roommates do so

Re: Testing URIs not working

2003-11-07 Thread Haines Brown
> From: Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > [teach to fish mode] Yes, by all means! > apt-cache search newbiedoc > newbiedoc Well, what is obvious to the experienced user, is something entirely new to the newbie. I realized that # aptitude search would search for uninstalled packages, but I did

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 11:01:58AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > As in "proprietary, closed-source apps"? > > Well, that depends on if you see them as a "problem", or something > that you prefer not to use. > > I prefer not to use proprietary, closed-source apps, but, when > necessary, will pay f

Re: Single-use root account?

2003-11-07 Thread Alan Shutko
Alex Malinovich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You can log in once, but as soon as you do the user gets locked > out. (passwd -l in .bashrc) Wouldn't work, since the person has root, and can therefore unlock the password. Maybe you could add it in bash's logout script, but that could be edited as

Re: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + clamav (clamd)- Help!)

2003-11-07 Thread BruceG
- Original Message - From: "Ron Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Debian-User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:52 AM Subject: ClamAV & Amavisd-new (was Re: exim3 + amavis-new + clamav (clamd)- Help!) > On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 22:36, BruceG wrote: > > Okay, I've got e

Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"

2003-11-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 09:26, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 07:32:41AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 05:46, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 04:52:29PM -0700, David Millet wrote: > > > > Or not until wine begins running these and every w

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