Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-01 Thread Neal Lippman
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 18:20, Nicos Gollan wrote: > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 00:02, Neal Lippman wrote: > > I'm just wondering if anyone has any info on why X seems to need so much > > CPU power? > > It's not X eating resources like mad, it's the way desktop environments > forcing it to do thi

SCSI host adapter "gone" after kernel upgrade

2003-09-01 Thread Erik Rask
This is a rather long description of a problem, with two questions at the bottom. Hello all. I have stumbled upon a problem I do not quite understand. A while back I upgraded a server to an Asus P4C800 Deluxe mainboard with all the goodies (P4 with hyperthreading and fast RAM). It then failed to r

Freenet seed nodes

2003-09-01 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Hello, I'm looking for a seed node or two to use for freenet. I've installed freenet on a bunch of stable systems and the seedNodes have all failed in multiple attempts over the last two weeks ("Attempts were made to contact 30 nodes. 30 were totally unreachable... The request couldn't even mak

Re: simple backup script

2003-09-01 Thread Yves Goergen
On Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:15 AM CET, Marcus Schopen wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a simple backup script, which uses e.g. dd and > additionally does some error handling and mail notification. I use > amanda for my daily and weekly backups, but to feel more secure, I > installed a second h

simple backup script

2003-09-01 Thread Marcus Schopen
Hi, I'm looking for a simple backup script, which uses e.g. dd and additionally does some error handling and mail notification. I use amanda for my daily and weekly backups, but to feel more secure, I installed a second harddrive in my server today. Now I'm looking for a nice and secure script

Re: xmms, esound in mixed stable/unstable

2003-09-01 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"John" == John Holland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> I just switched my laptop to Debian. I'm using a mix of John> stable and unstable. Sound works with ogle, but with xmms or John> xine it is very choppy. A common mistake people make with Debian starting out is not enabling D

Re: Tips for serial terminal & file transfer?

2003-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:56:48PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > It would also be helpful if I could do the old trick of : > > cat > EOF > > ...but this method performs shell expansions on the content. If you quote EOF, it doesn't: $ cat < $BASH_VERSION > EOF 2.05b.0

mplex shortens MPEG1 video to under five minutes?

2003-09-01 Thread Carl Fink
I'm trying to convert a long AVI file to two VCD's. I have in the past done this two ways: with the mencvcd script from mplayer/mencoder, or with avidemux. Both worked. Now, whichever I use, the VCD's produced (as bin/cue sets) are less than five minutes long, cutting off in mid-video. The act

Error setting up ClamAV

2003-09-01 Thread Alexander Banthien
Hi, I have been trying to set up ClamAV (stable and testing) and kept getting the following error which ended the installation process. == apt-get install clamav . Connected to clamav.elektrapro.com. Reading md5 sum (viruses.md5): OK viruses.db is up t

Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-01 Thread benfoley
On Monday 01 September 2003 22:46, Michael Heironimus wrote: [snip] > If you want to run X on an older machine you should pick out a basic > window manager you like and use that. If you're really stuck on the idea > of a desktop environment you could also try XFce. Decide what it is that > you thin

Re: re wet blue

2003-09-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 16:30:50 -0500, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 13:01, Carlos Sousa wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:28:55 +0200 Lukasz Hejnak wrote: > > > (from some spammer) > > > > We have wet blue cow > > > n/c > > > > We

Unfortunate Dummy.

2003-09-01 Thread David Palmer
All true:- Bollocks. Last I looked, swap space (file or partition) is a way to extend virtual memory by grabbing some disk space for the effect, and is thus completely optional. Your system may handle heavier applications simultaneously if you give it some swap space, but as long as you have a de

possible gdm bug

2003-09-01 Thread Daniel Miles
I'm writing the mailing list because I'm having a gdm problem that I can't figure out and I think it might be some sort of bug. I've got two machines with basically the same hardware configuration (i386 nvidia graphics cards). On one, the gdm works just find right off of install... On the second,

Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-01 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 07:55:53AM +, benfoley wrote: > p.s. you're paying way too much for that cheap shit you're smoking. Like I said, do the "advocates" ever listen to themselves? -- Marc Wilson | Let he who takes the plunge remember to return it [EMAIL PROTECTED] | by Tuesday.

Re: Tips for serial terminal & file transfer?

2003-09-01 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 07:17:18PM +0300, Shaul Karl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:41:24PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > After this point, you can transfer shar archives (which use uudecode, > > hence the above step), allowing for ASCII mode transfers. > > > >

Re: /opt/kernel, depmod

2003-09-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 21:09:49 GMT, "Alex Kirk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Secondly, I'm having a *lot* of trouble getting my D-Link DWL-520 > >> wirless NIC (Prism 2.5 chipset) to work under Debian. > > > > .._sure_? D-Link DWL-520 is a nice pussycat with fu

Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-01 Thread Michael Heironimus
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 06:02:27PM -0400, Neal Lippman wrote: > Linux, any sort of desktop - eg Gnome or KDE, not a vanilla WM) was just > so slow as to be unusable. Eventually I gave up for a while and went > Thinkpad 770ED (PII-266, 64MB Ram). Once again, with KDE running, the > desktop was so s

Re: ide-scsi CDRW and a real SCSI CDROM

2003-09-01 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:12:07PM +1000, Russell Shaw wrote: > Kirk Strauser wrote: > >I'm running `unstable' on a system with a Samsung IDE CDRW and a Panasonic > >SCSI CDROM. I've followed various instructions culled from mailing lists, > >HOWTOs, etc., but I'm still having problems with gettin

Re: Mozilla and Print

2003-09-01 Thread Pigeon
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 10:31:06PM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > Rodrigo Gesswein wrote: > >Hello! > > > > I have installed Debian 3.0r1 and Mozilla 1.4, but when I try to print > >a html page, CPU goes to 100% and nothing happend, I must kill mozilla > >manually. LPD is installed and configured ri

Re: an unfortunate dummy apologies

2003-09-01 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 07:20:33PM +0200, Rogier Wolff wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 05:13:22PM +, zoe wrote: > > apologies for my post yesterday > > Accepted. > > > red hat, suse, mandrake, caldera, and half a dozen > > other distributions all crashed or became unworkable) > > Sounds lik

Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?

2003-09-01 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 05:55:20PM +1200, cr wrote: > On Monday 01 September 2003 13:11, Pigeon wrote: > > > As far as the visible particulate emissions from a steamer are > > concerned, they are universally built to a design which received > > government approval as able to consume its own smoke,

Re: [Wildly OT] Locomotive transmissions [was: Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?]

2003-09-01 Thread Pigeon
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 08:01:54PM +1200, cr wrote: > On Monday 01 September 2003 08:28, Pigeon wrote: > > > > > I don't normally disagree with you Pigeon ;), but here I do. If > > > > hydraulics had proved reliable, and cheaper, or significantly better in > > > > any way, d'you think they would

network card speed

2003-09-01 Thread Jochen Daum
Hi ! I have a Intel based network card in my debian woody webserver. How can I tell, if it goes 10 MBit or 100 MBit? Cheers, Jochen Daum Web Architect/Database Developer CANS Ltd. 5 Heb Pl Takanini, Auckland (09) 279 5777 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

fluxbox "tab" titles

2003-09-01 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
Does anyone know if it's possible to customize what fluxbox's tabs say? e.g. in Firebird the tab reads the title of the page. However, if I'm using Eterm it just says, "Eterm 0" -- I'd like it to have the name of the file I'm currently editing (no path). Is this possible? I checked the online flux

Re: sony digital handycam (DCR-TRV60E) in linux

2003-09-01 Thread Benedict Verheyen
Op za 30-08-2003, om 20:54 schreef Neal Lippman: > I also have a Sony digicam, which is connected to my system via a > firewire card. > > To use it, via firewire, I modprobe'd video1394, ohci1394, raw1394 and > ieee1394. All were with standard woody install (later dist-upgraded to > testing) and n

Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-01 Thread Nicos Gollan
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 00:02, Neal Lippman wrote: > I'm just wondering if anyone has any info on why X seems to need so much > CPU power? It's not X eating resources like mad, it's the way desktop environments forcing it to do things that it was never meant to do.It was never meant to disp

Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?

2003-09-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:24:56 +1200, cr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Monday 01 September 2003 13:37, Pigeon wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 03:30:14PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:35:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Why? Passeng

Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-01 Thread Yves Goergen
On Tuesday, September 02, 2003 12:02 AM CET, Neal Lippman wrote: > So, my question is: Why does X seem to need so much more CPU power > than windows - such that systems I have tried to use that worked fine > with various windows flavors just were unusable with KDE loaded? I > assume the problem isn

Re: cannot set ethernet card into promiscuous mode

2003-09-01 Thread Michael Heironimus
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 06:13:15PM +0200, Alexander Banthien wrote: > I am having trouble with two of my Debian boxes in that I cannot run > e.g. ethereal on either of them (2.4.18-bf2.4 and 2.2.19pre17) in > promiscuous mode. I need to sniff around in my net but am only able to > see packets ei

Re: OT: Debian Mailinglist server slow?

2003-09-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 02:24, cr wrote: > On Monday 01 September 2003 13:37, Pigeon wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 03:30:14PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 04:35:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > Why? Passenger and freight peacefully coexist on tracks worldwide. > > >

Re: [OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-01 Thread Lukasz Hejnak
> Maybe the > problem is KDE and not X - but I had similar trouble with Gnome, so it > isn't just a KDE issue. hmm.. both Gnome and KDE are... BIG I mean they consume alot of resources I don't know exactly why.. but on my Duron 800mhz with 512 Mb Ram KDE was kinda bulky too... so I installed and a

Re: unfortunate dummy gets good advise

2003-09-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 16:37, zoe wrote: > many thanks for the speedy replies > > I will ask my friend to investigate your > much appreciated recommendations. > He is def confident its fixable. > > Ram I have got 524 mb of quality memmory > so my friend agrees the swap is not needed. For that mu

[OT] Why does X need so much CPU power?

2003-09-01 Thread Neal Lippman
I'm just wondering if anyone has any info on why X seems to need so much CPU power? Way back when, probably around 1996 or 1997, I first tried to install Linux. Back then, I tried distro's from Corel and Redhat. My system was a Pentium 133 with 48 (and then 96) MB Ram. This system ran both Win 95

Re: re wet blue

2003-09-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 13:01, Carlos Sousa wrote: > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:28:55 +0200 Lukasz Hejnak wrote: > > (from some spammer) > > > We have wet blue cow > > n/c > > > We can ofert pig wet blue to > > > If you have interest please send information abaut your company > > n/c! > >

Re: How to improve on this Python code. Was: Re: OT: Why is C sopopular?

2003-09-01 Thread Jacob Anawalt
Mark Roach wrote: On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 02:21, Jacob Anawalt wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: But, of course, that's not an issue in The Clearly Superior Language, is it? Ok, if this thread has accomplished little else, it seems to have gotten a couple people, including myself to play ar

Re: Duplicating installs across the network

2003-09-01 Thread Emma Jane Hogbin
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:07:43PM +0200, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > but I have no experience with any of them. Can anyone out there provide some > pointers and insight? What do you all use? Does it work well? I really hope > that there is an easy way to this, as I do not want to have to reinstal

Re: /opt/kernel, depmod

2003-09-01 Thread Alex Kirk
Secondly, I'm having a *lot* of trouble getting my D-Link DWL-520 wirless NIC (Prism 2.5 chipset) to work under Debian. .._sure_? D-Link DWL-520 is a nice pussycat with full support for the Prism 2.5, D-Link DWL-520+ sounds more like your carcassy experience. Super sure -- I just cracked the box

Re: unfortunate dummy gets good advise

2003-09-01 Thread Carlos Sousa
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 21:37:12 GMT zoe wrote: > > Ram I have got 524 mb of quality memmory > so my friend agrees the swap is not needed. It wouldn't hurt to reserve a disk partition for swap, though, as it will be more difficult (and risky) to add it afterwards. But then, a swap file is also anothe

Duplicating installs across the network

2003-09-01 Thread Roberto Sanchez
The migration of my lab is nearly complete. The two servers are happily running Woody and so far I have one workstation running Sid, and I even managed to get VMWare installed and running properly on it. The last I need to do is get printing back up. Once that is done I will be ready to install

Re: unfortunate dummy gets good advise

2003-09-01 Thread zoe
many thanks for the speedy replies I will ask my friend to investigate your much appreciated recommendations. He is def confident its fixable. Ram I have got 524 mb of quality memmory so my friend agrees the swap is not needed. So me thinks Hard ware problems are more likely or at least my linu

Re: gcc version?

2003-09-01 Thread Lukasz Hejnak
0, Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: > On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 22:10, Lukasz Hejnak wrote: > > export/setenv CC=gcc-2.95 > > (select one, export or setenv, depending on your distro) > rather, depending on your shell. setenv if you run csh or tcsh, export > if you run bash (highly probable)

Re: gcc version?

2003-09-01 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 22:10, Lukasz Hejnak wrote: > export/setenv CC=gcc-2.95 > (select one, export or setenv, depending on your distro) rather, depending on your shell. setenv if you run csh or tcsh, export if you run bash (highly probable) An easier way to set the compiler to s specific versio

Re: Jabber and transports

2003-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:06:12AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > Sure there is, each and every transport/service I packaged has a > README.Debian with full instructions on how to make it work. OK, I missed it. Mybad. > In the > last week, I've ad

Reiserfs partition crashed

2003-09-01 Thread Jernej Zidar
Yesterday my 40GB reiserfs partition crashed. All of a sudden she wasn't there any more. If I do a fdisk /dev/hdb command, it shows nothing. Is there a way to recover the data? I haven't yet created a new partition so the data are still there (hopefully). Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [

Re: gcc version?

2003-09-01 Thread Lukasz Hejnak
> > Hi! > > I'm about to install nvidia-drivers and need to use gcc-2.95 since my > > kernel in built with that. I checked an I have gcc-2.95 installed but > > gcc-3.3.2 is default, how do I get my system to use 2.95? > > I also had problems with AfterStep2's installscript and gcc-3.3.2. > You can

Re: how to add network support into installed kernel ?

2003-09-01 Thread Wolfgang Fischer
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 15:10:08 +0200, sachin ashok kadam wrote: > Hello friends, > How to add network support into an installed kernel (compiled > whithout the network support)? You can't do this without recompiling the kernel. The only thing you can do is to add some NIC drivers or some small

Re: Unfortunate Dummy.

2003-09-01 Thread Matthias Hentges
Am Mon, 2003-09-01 um 20.25 schrieb Carlos Sousa: > On 02 Sep 2003 01:43:25 +0800 David Palmer wrote: > > The swap file is absolutely necessary. > > This is the space on the disc where operating transactions take place. > > Without a swap file, you don't have a system. > > Bollocks. > > Last I lo

Re: Problem with KDE 3 upgrade

2003-09-01 Thread Donald Spoon
William Bradley wrote: -SNIP- < Hi Andreas, Tried you suggestion above and another couple of hours downloading went on. So obviously some bits were missing. When I boot to KDE now, KDE 3.1 loads and the standard icons come up on the screen but there is no panel at the bottom. When I right clic

Re: gcc version?

2003-09-01 Thread Wolfgang Fischer
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 20:30:21 +0200, ZekeVarg wrote: > Hi! > I'm about to install nvidia-drivers and need to use gcc-2.95 since my > kernel in built with that. I checked an I have gcc-2.95 installed but > gcc-3.3.2 is default, how do I get my system to use 2.95? > I also had problems with AfterStep

Re: Problem with KDE 3 upgrade

2003-09-01 Thread William Bradley
On Monday 01 September 2003 12:46 pm, Andreas Janssen wrote: > Hello > > William Bradley (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > I used "apt-get dist-upgrade kde" using the following URL: > > > > deb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian woody main > > > > After downloading overnight on my diakup

Webmagick and Imagemagick on Debian Woody - A Tutorial

2003-09-01 Thread Keith Goettert
Webmagick and Imagemagick are very capable image manipulation utilities. I needed to create a "montage" of thumbnails for a website on a nightly basis. To do this I decided from surveying the user groups that webmagick was the way to go. Indeed, it now works flawlessly. Getting here was a bit of

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2003-09-01 Thread Peter Nuttall
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Re: an unfortunate dummy apologies

2003-09-01 Thread Crispin Wellington
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:20 am, Rogier Wolff wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 05:13:22PM +, zoe wrote: > > red hat, suse, mandrake, caldera, and half a dozen > > other distributions all crashed or became unworkable) > > Sounds like a hardware problem in your computer. I second this. Everything yo

Re: ide-scsi CDRW and a real SCSI CDROM

2003-09-01 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-09-01T17:01:05Z, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Then you have put in your SCSI Controller's module in /etc/modules as well > as sr_mod and any other modules needed. I am a complete toolshed. I actually realized that I hadn't loaded my SCSI adapter module about 2 minutes after

Re: KDE Sound Server Test Silent, But OSS Driver Works

2003-09-01 Thread David Crane
On Monday 01 September 2003 02:00 pm, Andreas Janssen wrote: > Are you in the audio group? Now I am, and it works. I installed xmmsarts, and am very happy. Thanks, David Crane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Spamassassin + exim

2003-09-01 Thread Kenneth Dombrowski
On 03-09-01 01:48 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Actually it is a more secure version of what I have done here. In fact I > do it the really half-baked way by adding myself to the mail and gave myself > sudo access to chmod to get the directories to the right permission. > cool. thanks for the

Re: Unfortunate Dummy.

2003-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 01:43:25AM +0800, David Palmer wrote: > The swap file is absolutely necessary. > This is the space on the disc where operating transactions take place. > Without a swap file, you don't have a system. That isn't true. With enough memory, swap is unnecessary. Even without eno

Re: Unfortunate Dummy.

2003-09-01 Thread Carlos Sousa
On 02 Sep 2003 01:43:25 +0800 David Palmer wrote: > The swap file is absolutely necessary. > This is the space on the disc where operating transactions take place. > Without a swap file, you don't have a system. Bollocks. Last I looked, swap space (file or partition) is a way to extend virtual me

gcc version?

2003-09-01 Thread ZekeVarg
Hi! I'm about to install nvidia-drivers and need to use gcc-2.95 since my kernel in built with that. I checked an I have gcc-2.95 installed but gcc-3.3.2 is default, how do I get my system to use 2.95? I also had problems with AfterStep2's installscript and gcc-3.3.2. -- ZekeVarg <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: KDE Sound Server Test Silent, But OSS Driver Works

2003-09-01 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello David Crane (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I have the correct sound driver module loaded, and the "play" > command works when I run it as root. But the KDE Sound Server is > silent when I hit the "Test sound" button in the Control Center. > > The sound devices, such as /dev/dsp, are permi

Re: Unfortunate Dummy.

2003-09-01 Thread Johann Koenig
On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 01:43:25 +0800 David Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The swap file is absolutely necessary. > This is the space on the disc where operating transactions take place. RAM is necessary, swap is not. Swap is just an extension of RAM for when it overflows. -- -johann koenig No

Re: re wet blue

2003-09-01 Thread Carlos Sousa
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:28:55 +0200 Lukasz Hejnak wrote: > (from some spammer) > > We have wet blue cow > n/c > > We can ofert pig wet blue to > > If you have interest please send information abaut your company > n/c! > > arghh.. sorry just couldn't help this one... > wet blue fa

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Unfortunate Dummy.

2003-09-01 Thread David Palmer
The swap file is absolutely necessary. This is the space on the disc where operating transactions take place. Without a swap file, you don't have a system. Straight Debian is a little bit difficult to start out with. I would recommend beginning with a more 'accessible' system, perhaps Libranet whic

Re: font fix found, but how to make it stick?

2003-09-01 Thread debl
Hmmm... While I was considering editing the binary font file (helvB12.pcf.gz), I noticed a different font file in the same location: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/helvB12-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz After some inspection, it would seem that many fonts default to iso10646, but also are available in a is

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:53:55PM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 12:15, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:27:10AM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: > > > what could be better than "works exactly as desired"? > > > > tabstop *doesn't* work exactly as desired for me. (Shal

Re: Newbie Hardware/Partitioning

2003-09-01 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:04:06AM -0400, David Crane wrote: > I think you only created 4 primary partitions. It doesn't sound > like you created an extended partition holding logical partitions, > which is what W2K would have complained about. It is a good idea > to create the slew of linux p

Re: Print packages.

2003-09-01 Thread David Palmer
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 21:47, Russell Shaw wrote: > David Palmer wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Which is the more stable/ efficient Debian print package? > > Printtool or Cups? > > Regards, > > I've used cups with epson stylus colour inkjets and > lexmark postscript laser printers. Works flawless (test

Re: Getting KDE 3.1

2003-09-01 Thread csj
On Sun, 31 Aug 2003 19:59:35 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > [...] > How do you find and remove all of the old kde packages? I am sure > there are better ways. I found all version 2.2.2 packages and then > manually skimmed the list to make sure it was only kde packages and > then removed that list.

KDE Sound Server Test Silent, But OSS Driver Works

2003-09-01 Thread David Crane
I have the correct sound driver module loaded, and the "play" command works when I run it as root. But the KDE Sound Server is silent when I hit the "Test sound" button in the Control Center. The sound devices, such as /dev/dsp, are permissioned as follows: crw-rw1 root audio 14

Re: an unfortunate dummy apologies

2003-09-01 Thread Rogier Wolff
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 05:13:22PM +, zoe wrote: > apologies for my post yesterday Accepted. > red hat, suse, mandrake, caldera, and half a dozen > other distributions all crashed or became unworkable) Sounds like a hardware problem in your computer. > But then the desk bar/task bar stated

Re: Jabber and transports

2003-09-01 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Sun, Aug 31, 2003 at 01:06:25AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:02:32AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > No debconf support yet, not sure how I would go about parsing the > > myriad of possible jabber.xml configs out there. However, they are > > more integrated with th

Re: Problem with KDE 3 upgrade

2003-09-01 Thread Andreas Janssen
Hello William Bradley (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I used "apt-get dist-upgrade kde" using the following URL: > > deb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian woody main > > After downloading overnight on my diakup, it set itself up. When I > rebooted Debian the graphic login was in a d

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-01 Thread Mark Roach
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 12:15, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:27:10AM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: [snip] > > what could be better than "works exactly as desired"? > > tabstop *doesn't* work exactly as desired for me. (Shall we continue > with proof by assertion? :)) As far as I can s

Re: Installing Debian on IBM Thinkpad X24

2003-09-01 Thread Nick Lidakis
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: So I got myself one of these nifty things. It's really nice but it won't be perfect until I can get Debian on it. The problem is doesn't have a floppy or cd drive. I did notice it can boot from the network. Would it be possible to do some kind of TFTP type deal? It's ru

Re: ide-scsi CDRW and a real SCSI CDROM

2003-09-01 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 13:09, Kirk Strauser wrote: > I'm running `unstable' on a system with a Samsung IDE CDRW and a Panasonic > SCSI CDROM. I've followed various instructions culled from mailing lists, > HOWTOs, etc., but I'm still having problems with getting the two to play > nicely together. >

X: server must be suid root

2003-09-01 Thread Brian Stults
Hello, This is the second time I've posted this question. If someone could suggest a better place to post it, please do. I'm not sure if it would be appropriate to post to the debian-x mailing list. I know I've seen this before, but I cannot find the solution anywhere. I can run X as root ju

Re: re wet blue

2003-09-01 Thread Brian Gonzales
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 10:28, Lukasz Hejnak wrote: > arghh.. sorry just couldn't help this one... > wet blue farm animals? what will they think of next? > and what kind of english is that? > "we have wet blue cow"? > the only thing that comes to my mind is: > "all your base are belong too

Re: Mozilla and Print

2003-09-01 Thread Russell Shaw
Andreas J. Guelzow wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 10:09, Bijan Soleymani wrote: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 06:54:11AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: Bijan Soleymani wrote: On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 05:28:22PM -0400, Rodrigo Gesswein wrote: Hello! I have installed Debian 3.0r1 and Mozilla 1.4, but when I

Re: Tips for serial terminal & file transfer?

2003-09-01 Thread Shaul Karl
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:41:24PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > After this point, you can transfer shar archives (which use uudecode, > hence the above step), allowing for ASCII mode transfers. > I am missing something. Can't you uuencode every file and transfer it in the same way? >

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:27:10AM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 06:51, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 02:51:20AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > To get the behavior you describe you have to set tabstop to 4 so > > > that it will go to the next multiple of 4.

cannot set ethernet card into promiscuous mode

2003-09-01 Thread Alexander Banthien
Hi, I am having trouble with two of my Debian boxes in that I cannot run e.g. ethereal on either of them (2.4.18-bf2.4 and 2.2.19pre17) in promiscuous mode. I need to sniff around in my net but am only able to see packets either originting from or detined to the Debians. Anyone know what it go

an unfortunate dummy apologies

2003-09-01 Thread zoe
apologies for my post yesterday new ignorant user, who has broken both her wrist and her debian plus did not think I was ready yet for your list. over the weekend my capable linux buddy installed woody for me, its my tenth + try with linux (I think I am cursed.. we have previous tried red hat,

Problem with KDE 3 upgrade

2003-09-01 Thread William Bradley
I used "apt-get dist-upgrade kde" using the following URL: deb ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/latest/Debian woody main After downloading overnight on my diakup, it set itself up. When I rebooted Debian the graphic login was in a different form than it was before. When I did login the big Debi

Re: re wet blue

2003-09-01 Thread Lukasz Hejnak
> We have wet blue cow n/c > We can ofert pig wet blue to > If you have interest please send information abaut your company n/c! arghh.. sorry just couldn't help this one... wet blue farm animals? what will they think of next? and what kind of english is that? "we have wet blu

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-01 Thread Mark Roach
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 11:50, Anders Arnholm wrote: [snip] > The difference between ts and sts is just that ts works on \t > charachters imported in the files to, and sts doesn't. Setting ts > without et is definitly wrong. Setting it with et just look wrong, but > doesn't hurt so many else. (Or hop

Re: Mozilla and Print

2003-09-01 Thread Andreas J. Guelzow
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 10:09, Bijan Soleymani wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 06:54:11AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > > Bijan Soleymani wrote: > > >On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 05:28:22PM -0400, Rodrigo Gesswein wrote: > > > > > >>Hello! > > >> > > >> I have installed Debian 3.0r1 and Mozilla 1.4, but w

xmms, esound in mixed stable/unstable

2003-09-01 Thread John Holland
I just switched my laptop to Debian. I'm using a mix of stable and unstable. Sound works with ogle, but with xmms or xine it is very choppy. Also I think some of the libraries that xmms wants to install esound etc are the source of problems. At this point I've reinstalled the OS a few times and ha

re wet blue

2003-09-01 Thread INCALZACO
We have wet blue cow Estimate ave.size:  32/34 sq ft Thinkness: Al Thinkness no split Seleccion : A/B   60/40 Amount on fcl 20 ft :    1000 pc in pallets   Price  :  $43.50 USD. FOB Boliiva or nearli port in Pacific   Estimate ave.size:  

Re: Mutt: How to find new mail in mult. mailboxes? [SOLVED]

2003-09-01 Thread desiderata
On 11:10 Mon 01 Sep?, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 06:16:12AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Ok, I've changed the mailbox entries on .muttrc... format looks the same > > :( Based on your replies it looks like I was misunderstood, sorry about > > that must be my bad English

Re: ide-scsi CDRW and a real SCSI CDROM

2003-09-01 Thread Russell Shaw
Kirk Strauser wrote: At 2003-09-01T11:12:07Z, Russell Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The real scsi will appear under sdxx such as sda1. Except that it doesn't. In fact, it's not even detected in dmesg. What I've done so far: 1) Added this to my grub boot parameters: hde=scsi ignore=hde

Re: Help with virtual redirect for apache, apache-ssl, squirrelmail

2003-09-01 Thread Rich Johnson
On Sunday, August 31, 2003, at 05:17 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I apt-getted apache, apache-ssl, and squirrelmail, all working fine for my domain. I now need help setting up a virtual redirect so users going to http://mail.ehrlichtronics.com will be redirected to https://mail.ehrlichtronics.

Re: Mozilla and Print

2003-09-01 Thread Bijan Soleymani
--PNTmBPCT7hxwcZjr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 06:54:11AM -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > Bijan Soleymani wrote: > >On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 05:28:22PM -0400, Rodrigo Gesswein wrote: > > > >>

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2003-09-01 Thread Wolfgang Hadek
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Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-01 Thread Anders Arnholm
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 11:24:41AM -0400, Mark Roach wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 06:20, Anders Arnholm wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 03:04:28AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:18:14 +0200 > > > Anders Arnholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is a very easy way to achie

Re: open office spell checking

2003-09-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 19:04, Kevin McKinley wrote: > On Sat, 30 Aug 2003 11:50:41 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is interesting. Spelling works for me, but I don't have any > > myspell* installed : > > Does it really? > > With the same selection of spell* as you, I op

Re: ide-scsi CDRW and a real SCSI CDROM

2003-09-01 Thread Johann Koenig
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 10:45:55 -0500 Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1) Added this to my grub boot parameters: > > hde=scsi ignore=hde Don't know if this is the problem, but this is my line from /etc/lilo.conf append="hdc=ide-scsi hdd=ide-scsi" -- -johann koenig Now Playing: Bow W

Re: ide-scsi CDRW and a real SCSI CDROM

2003-09-01 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-09-01T11:12:07Z, Russell Shaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The real scsi will appear under sdxx such as sda1. Except that it doesn't. In fact, it's not even detected in dmesg. What I've done so far: 1) Added this to my grub boot parameters: hde=scsi ignore=hde 2) Created an /etc

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-01 Thread Mark Roach
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 06:51, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 02:51:20AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > To get the behavior you describe you have to set tabstop to 4 so > > that it will go to the next multiple of 4. > > No, you don't have to. Try setting softtabstop - much better.

Re: OT: Why is C so popular?

2003-09-01 Thread Mark Roach
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 06:20, Anders Arnholm wrote: > On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 03:04:28AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 11:18:14 +0200 > > Anders Arnholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, but vim uses tabstop to determine how many spaces to put in. Hence > > tabstop to 4, exp

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