Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 12:35:17AM -0600, Scott Dier wrote: > Luckily, if this happens to x86 some day, everyone in 'Free' communities > will have a damn good reason to leave this platform in droves. :) From what I've read, this won't actually work: TCPA enabled systems will still run obsoleted op

Re: Dma for ide-scsi

On Nov 03 at 23:25, Eduard Bloch spoke: > cd ~root > mkdir devs > cd devs > MAKEDEV hda hdb hdc hdd hde hdf > > now, use hdparm on this nodes. Are devices in ~root/devs better than in /dev? -Hanspeter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

* Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [021103 23:38]: > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:19:44PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > > FUD! FUD FUD FUD FUD!!! This is completely all wrong. Recently a talk > > was given at MIT by one of the designers of Microsoft Palladium (their > > trusted computing in

Re: macintosh hardware

On Sunday 03 November 2002 08:41 pm, Jason Stechschulte wrote: > There is a computer show in my area in a couple of weeks, and I'm > thinking about getting a used Macintosh since I haven't played with one > for ages. I don't want to bother getting one though unless I can > dual-boot it and Debian

Re: can't kill a PID

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 06:34:55AM -0500, Kevin Coyner wrote: > I always thought that with 'kill -9 PID' you could clean up just about > any process, but I've run into one that just won't go ... > kosuke9026 0.0 0.9 14460 4932 ? D 00:16 0:00 xmms The state ``D'' means uninterruptible.

Re: Mounting a partition with access allowed for only one user

On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 21:31, Neal Lippman wrote: > I am wresting with a mount question but getting nowhere. > > Suppose that I want to mount a disk partition onto a subdirectory of > /home, but want it to be available only to one particular user. Is there > any way to effect this? > > eg, I creat

woody installation problems

I am trying to install debian 3.0 for the first time on an intel386 system from the cd images I burned. Unfortunately, debian can't see the files it needs on the cd even though I can see the files on any other computer. Debian can even see the file structure on the cd, just not the files. Is th

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:19:44PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > FUD! FUD FUD FUD FUD!!! This is completely all wrong. Recently a talk > was given at MIT by one of the designers of Microsoft Palladium (their > trusted computing initiative) at MIT. I was at the talk, which received > lots of

installing woody off the cd's

I have been trying to install debian 3.0 for the first time using the cd's I burned from the image files. However, debian can't seem to find the files on the cd even though I can see them using any other computer. Is this a cd format issue, or is there some bug I don't know about? Blaise

Re: My first Linux crash

Michael P. Soulier said: >Would not desirable behaviour be to log as many errors as possible, >but > recover from the hardware problem? I see no reason why any software, user > space or kernel space, should crash due to errors in a peripheral. Bad > RAM is one thing, but errors on a CD? I

Re: My first Linux crash

On 03/11/02 nate did speaketh: > it is not unusual, I have seen this happen on many operaitng systems > especially with CD-R media. the result would of been the same if > you were not root. Probably the system filled with I/O errors and > couldn't continue. The software has only limited resources

Re: Mounting a partition with access allowed for only one user

Once upon a time Neal Lippman said... > > eg, I create a directory called /home/restricted, and then want to mount > a local disk partition containing an ext2fs file system: > mount /dev/hda8 /home/restricted > > When I do the mount, the ownership and permissions of /home/restricted > are n

Mounting a partition with access allowed for only one user

I am wresting with a mount question but getting nowhere. Suppose that I want to mount a disk partition onto a subdirectory of /home, but want it to be available only to one particular user. Is there any way to effect this? eg, I create a directory called /home/restricted, and then want to mount a

Re: My first Linux crash

Robert Ian Smit said: > It's not really a very big issue, but I was amazed to see this > happen? it is not unusual, I have seen this happen on many operaitng systems especially with CD-R media. the result would of been the same if you were not root. Probably the system filled with I/O errors and

My first Linux crash

Tonight I tried to copy the contents of a cdrom to a local filesytem as root. I was able to mount the cdrom and use tab-completion to get to the directory on the cdrom using cp. However after entering, the system crashed (leds on keyboard flashing, hard boot required). After booting I took out th

Re: sys time ?

"Lance" == Lance Hoffmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Lance> My time gets set through nptdate at startup. Time is fine Lance> in Linux but if I boot into Win2000 the time is 6hr off Lance> (CST). What do I need to do so that time is correct in Lance> both systems? Many Micr

Re: macintosh hardware

Linux runs great on Macs, both 68000 and PowerPC macs. Subscribe to debian-powerpc to ask more about it. Also see: http://penguinppc.org/ I'm typing this on a Mac 8500 running Woody and the 2.4.19 kernel. It can be a little hard to figure out how to install. My recommendation is to put the

Re: VCD creation

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:18:58PM -0600, Gerald V. Livingston II wrote: > Is it possible to create a VCD from a '.mpg' or '.avi' with some > program(s) available as Debian packages? I'm running sid here. I've > figured out how to BURN VCD's that come in bin/cue format, but I don't > know how to tu

macintosh hardware

There is a computer show in my area in a couple of weeks, and I'm thinking about getting a used Macintosh since I haven't played with one for ages. I don't want to bother getting one though unless I can dual-boot it and Debian GNU/Linux. I'm not new to dual-booting systems, I just don't really k

Re: sys time ?

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 07:55:58PM -0600, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: > My time gets set through nptdate at startup. > Time is fine in Linux but if I boot into > Win2000 the time is 6hr off (CST). What > do I need to do so that time is correct in > both systems? Set Linux to use braindead windows/dos

VCD creation

Is it possible to create a VCD from a '.mpg' or '.avi' with some program(s) available as Debian packages? I'm running sid here. I've figured out how to BURN VCD's that come in bin/cue format, but I don't know how to turn a straight mpeg into a bin/cue that can be burned as vcd/svcd. G -- To UN

Re: MUD Shell ... ?

"Soul Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> It would seem to me that Debian could have a >>> Shell that looked and acted an awful lot like a >>> MUD created, with applications representing Well, there's something that might be a good jumping-off point. ;) mooix is a MUD (a MOO, technically) t

Re: mkfile(8) in Debian?

> >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/file/to/create bs= count= > > > > Though a holed file cannot be made by this method, this is a good idea. > > Yes you can. > > dd if=/dev/zero of=/file/to/create bs= seek= count=1 > Perfect! Thanks a lot, Juha. Later, I found that http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/0079

sys time ?

My time gets set through nptdate at startup. Time is fine in Linux but if I boot into Win2000 the time is 6hr off (CST). What do I need to do so that time is correct in both systems? Lance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL P

Re: Installing new software

"Noah" == Noah L Meyerhans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Noah> On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 05:40:55PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad Noah> wrote: >> I actually believe that an upgrade to Woody will not upgrade >> your X Server unless you ask for it (just like it will not >> upgrade your k

SMTP listener refused delivery

I ocassionally get the following error message: fetchmail: SMTP listener refused delivery I have fetchmail running in a cron every 5 min --silent --invisible. For the most part this works and my mail gets checked and dumped into exim/procmail every 5 mins. But ocassionally (once or twice per d

Re: pterm problems

Rob Weir wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've just started using pterm, and I'm a problem. Before I report it as > bug, I just want to check it's not something on my end, since the recent > home/end discussion showed me just how little I know about terminal > emulation: > > The home and end keys don't s

Re: configuring mail

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 03:29:38PM +0530, sandip wrote.. > one irritating thing is happening in my mails. all mails appear to be > coming from sandip ([EMAIL PROTECTED])! i will like them to > appear to be coming from Sandip P Deshmukh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Try the following in your exim.conf:

Re: [kosuke@rustybear.com] Re: can't kill a PID

Oliver Elphick wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 12:23, Rupert wrote: > > > > Kevin Coyner told: > > > > > I always thought that with 'kill -9 PID' you could clean up just about > > > > > any process, but I've run into one that just won't go ... > > > > > > > > > > sakura:~$ ps aux |grep xmms > > >

Re: xclock with 12-hour time?

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 02:20:43PM -0500, Nori Heikkinen wrote: > on Sat, 02 Nov 2002 08:01:09PM -0700, Bob Proulx insinuated: > > Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-02 15:47:58 -0500]: > > > is there a way to make xclock display 12-hour time instead of > > > 24-hour? a friend of mine can

rename by ncftp

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Re: Installing new software

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 05:40:55PM -0600, Shyamal Prasad wrote: > I actually believe that an upgrade to Woody will not upgrade your X > Server unless you ask for it (just like it will not upgrade your > kernel), but I cannot remember if that is a lie. It will upgrade it, but not accross major vers

Re: xclock with 12-hour time?

Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > on Sat, 02 Nov 2002 08:01:09PM -0700, Bob Proulx insinuated: > > Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-02 15:47:58 -0500]: > > > is there a way to make xclock display 12-hour time instead of > > > 24-hour? a friend of mine can't read her clock :)

Re: pterm problems

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 11:34:53PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 10:18:21AM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > > I've just started using pterm, and I'm a problem. Before I report it as > > bug, I just want to check it's not something on my end, since the recent > > home/end discussion

Re: Installing new software

"David" == David Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: David> Hi, I am running Debian Potato with XFree86 3. I have a David> full woody set of CD's but am unable to get XFree86 4 to David> work at all. Unfortunately, I can't use any of the other David> software on the woody cds bec

Re: pterm problems

On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 10:18:21AM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > I've just started using pterm, and I'm a problem. Before I report it as > bug, I just want to check it's not something on my end, since the recent > home/end discussion showed me just how little I know about terminal > emulation: > > The

pterm problems

Hi all, I've just started using pterm, and I'm a problem. Before I report it as bug, I just want to check it's not something on my end, since the recent home/end discussion showed me just how little I know about terminal emulation: The home and end keys don't seem to work consistently: in vim th

Help with CardBus hotplug on kernel 2.4?

I'm trying to figure out if an Elan Digital Systems P111 CardBus to PCI adapter works with my Mac 8500. I have read that sometimes PCMCIA adapters don't work because of problems with ones motherboard. http://www.elan-digital-systems.co.uk/adapter/p111.php As a test I'm trying to use an Adaptec

Re: Thread Stealing (was: Installing debian via network)

Bob Proulx([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Michael Naumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-03 16:19:09 +0100]: > > 03.11.2002 04:29:40, Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [Please start a new thread for a new question, it makes it much easier > > > for people to follow the list an

Re: galeon --server

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 03:07:03PM +, Keith O'Connell wrote: > I am starting to wonder. I hav now a file that reads > > #!/bin/sh > > resources=$HOME/.Xresources > > if [ -f $resources ]; then > xrdb -load $resources > fi > > galeon -s -e0

Re: DPKG Problem with corrupted file

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 10:36:07PM +0100, Sven Gaerner wrote: > Hi, > > I got a problem after a system crash. The file /var/lib/dpkg/available > is corrupted and dpkg reports an error if I want to remove a package. Use back up /var/lib/dpkg/available-old or look into /var/backups/* -- ~\^o^/~~

Re: DPKG Problem with corrupted file

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 10:36:07PM +0100, Sven Gaerner wrote: > Hi, > > I got a problem after a system crash. The file /var/lib/dpkg/available > is corrupted and dpkg reports an error if I want to remove a package. > > Does anyone got a hint or some other info for me how to solve this? > run "d

Re: Dma for ide-scsi

#include * Klaus Imgrund [Sun, Nov 03 2002, 01:06:20PM]: > > Can it be configured via procfs? > > > AFAIK it can't be used at all.hdparm only works with ide devices. ATA devices. Unfortunarely, Linux is not consistent on naming devices, ide-scsi does not present the device nodes useable for hdpa

Re: Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking

03/11/2002 18:29:56, "Thomas H. George" wrote: > Before purchasing a DSL Gateway Router I would appreciate >benefiting from the experience of other debian users. I have just researched wireless networking, and have decided upon a linksys setup [befw11s4 for ap/router, wmp11 for laptops and wpc11

Re: bash scripting question

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:28:26PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > get around 40,000 files in one single directory. Some filesystems > such as JFS (and I think, not sure, XFS and ReiserFS too) store > directies in B+ trees and are specifically designed to handle large I know that ReiserFS does this. X

Re: can't kill a PID

Gerald V. Livingston II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-03 13:34:01 -0600]: Please don't quote the entire message. Please trim your messages to reduce the clutter. > How about killing these? > root 31132 1 0 Oct31 ?00:00:00 [usb-storage-0] > root 31133 1 0 Oct31 ?

DPKG Problem with corrupted file

Hi, I got a problem after a system crash. The file /var/lib/dpkg/available is corrupted and dpkg reports an error if I want to remove a package. Does anyone got a hint or some other info for me how to solve this? Please CC any answers to me because I'm not subscribed to the list. Thanks in adva

Re: can't kill a PID

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 11:31:53AM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote.. > You can find parents easily using the [1]other syntax of 'ps'. I > prefer this command. It will thread parent-child in a hierarchy which > you can easily find the bad parents. > > ps -efH | less I've noted this down in my l

Re: Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking

Richard Kimber wrote: On Sun, 03 Nov 2002 18:38:40 + iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i've got a netgear MR314, and a cheap Belkin pc card in my laptop. the netgear is a doddle to admin. Yes, I have this router. Along with a D-Link USB adapter for one of the other machines.

Re: Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking

On Sun, 03 Nov 2002 18:38:40 + iain d broadfoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i've got a netgear MR314, and a cheap Belkin pc card in my laptop. > > the netgear is a doddle to admin. Yes, I have this router. Along with a D-Link USB adapter for one of the other machines. D-Link stuff seems

Re: mkfile(8) in Debian?

Hiroki Horiuchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> dd if=/dev/zero of=/file/to/create bs= count= > > Though a holed file cannot be made by this method, this is a good idea. Yes you can. dd if=/dev/zero of=/file/to/create bs= seek= count=1 -- Juha Autero http://www.iki.fi/jautero/ Eschew obscurity

Re: Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking

Hi Thomas, I am using the Sony Access Point and the Sony card. The card works fine with Linux (PCWA-C100, Orinoco Driver), but the access point can only be configured from windows which stinks. Both, but especially the access point, is pretty expensive and I wouldn't go for it again. I remeber h

Re: Installing new software

David Jones said: > Hi, > I am running Debian Potato with XFree86 3. I have a full woody set of CD's > but am unable to get XFree86 4 to work at all. Unfortunately, I can't use > any of the other software on the woody cds because the system always wants > to upgrade everything including X, which th

Re: TCPA

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 02:00:39PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > I don't think that TCPA will kill open software. But I do think that > it's part of an ongoing effort to erode the freedoms which are behind > open software. Agreed 100%. I said previously in this thread that I don't care if content

Installing new software

Hi, I am running Debian Potato with XFree86 3. I have a full woody set of CD's but am unable to get XFree86 4 to work at all. Unfortunately, I can't use any of the other software on the woody cds because the system always wants to upgrade everything including X, which then won't work. How can I u

Re: Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 01:29:56PM -0500, Thomas H. George,,, wrote: > Thanks to help from the list I now have a one computer network with a > dsl connection to the internet. There are two other computers in our > house which could benefit from this connection. One suggestion was to > run wires t

Re: Making a java 1.4.1 deb

On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 18:49:26 +0100 "Benedict Verheyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Do you know why I can't get this in Woody? Specifically, why can't apt > > see the testing or unstable versions of installwatch? > > > > arthur:~# apt-cache policy checkinstall > checkinstall: > Installed: (

Re: Thread Stealing (was: Installing debian via network)

03.11.2002 18:59:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) wrote: > Michael Naumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-03 16:19:09 +0100]: > > 03.11.2002 04:29:40, Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [Please start a new thread for a new question, it makes it much easier > > > for people to follow the list

Re: Installing debian via network

03.11.2002 17:16:13, "Donald R. Spoon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -SNIP- < > >The "fastest" way, IMHO, is to use the Debian CDs on the SuSE computer >and do a "clean' install. This will over-write your current SuSE install. > >If you have some files on your SuSE box that you might want to pres

Re: can't kill a PID

On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 12:31, Bob Proulx wrote: > Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-04 00:31:17 +1100]: > > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:42:59PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > > On Sun, 03 Nov 2002 the mental interface of Kevin Coyner told: > > > > kosuke9026 0.0 0.9 14460 4932 ? D 00

Re: X upgrade broke DRI

This one time, at band camp, Colin Watson said: > As far as I know, you need at least 2.4.20-pre5 to get DRI with XFree86 > 4.2. > > -- > Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] steve@gashuffer:~$ uname -a Linux gashuffer.lobefin.net 2.4.20-rc1 #1 SMP Sun Nov 3 14:05:24

Amavis server client on Debian potato and woody

I'm having difficulties with the following setup: I have a Debian Potato server with a amavis 2.4.1p1 client Another Debian woody system is running the amavis server version 2.4.2p2 Backing up is no problem but when I try to restore using amrecover on the potato server I cannot even get a connect

Re: bash scripting question

Neal Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-03 13:35:22 -0500]: > Thanks. My "bug" here was using comma instead of space as the separator, > and not realizing that the reason for x in {a,b,c,d...z} worked was > because of the way the brace expansion was being done by the shell. Ah, yes, csh style {o

Re: xclock with 12-hour time?

on Sat, 02 Nov 2002 08:01:09PM -0700, Bob Proulx insinuated: > Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-02 15:47:58 -0500]: > > is there a way to make xclock display 12-hour time instead of > > 24-hour? a friend of mine can't read her clock :) > > I assume you have considered -analog? well, r

Re: TCPA

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:19:44PM -0500, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > The only negative thing I see comming out of TCPA is that content > producers (Hollywood, etc) will release copies of their > movies/music/whatever for download in a format that can only be accessed > on TCPA systems. This is the

Re: Thanks for lLots of Help from Many People

Thomas H. George,,, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-03 13:33:59 -0500]: > I have posted a number of questions to the list over the past months > and have gotten excellent responses to all of them. Glad the list has been able to help you. > Before I moved from potato to woody I could send responses

Re: Broken packages.

._ The little penguin sat on the shore, _@__watching Seneca write the letter ~ on the memorable day of 2002/11/03 19:37 > > How come the package is incomplete? How come there's NO FSCKING error message >about it? > dpkg -s textutils > Packages change. What was once in t

Re: Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking

Thomas H. George,,, wrote: Thanks to help from the list I now have a one computer network with a dsl connection to the internet. There are two other computers in our house which could benefit from this connection. One suggestion was to run wires through the heating ducts but this does not seem f

Re: bash scripting question

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 10:51:00PM -0500, Neal Lippman wrote: > > This works fine if I actually type out the entire alphabet list on the > command line as above, but that's sort of a pain. So, I tried setting a > shell variable to the alphabet string (export alpha="A,B,C,...,Z"), but > then the co

Re: Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 01:29:56PM -0500, Thomas H. George,,, wrote: > Thanks to help from the list I now have a one computer network with a > dsl connection to the internet. There are two other computers in our > house which could benefit from this connection. One suggestion was to > run wires t

Re: Problem with libesd-alsa

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 09:41:23AM -0800, Theodore Reed spake thusly: > On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 11:50:08 -0500 > Edward Guldemond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I gave up on this problem because I don't use ESD all that often, and > > replaced the ESD support in most of my apps with either ALSA or OS

Thanks for lLots of Help from Many People

I have posted a number of questions to the list over the past months and have gotten excellent responses to all of them. Before I moved from potato to woody I could send responses with thanks and additional notes directly from mutt. Now all my replies get returned as undeliverable. When I tr

Re: Broken packages.

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 06:48:18PM +0100, Jakub Turski wrote: > I run debian unstable. Once in two or three days I run aptitude update > && aptitude upgrade, and it proceeds without any visible errors - no- > thing seems to be wrong. However, sometimes I get a 'truncated packages' > -- a packa

Re: can't kill a PID

Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-04 00:31:17 +1100]: > On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 12:42:59PM +0100, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > On Sun, 03 Nov 2002 the mental interface of Kevin Coyner told: > > > kosuke9026 0.0 0.9 14460 4932 ? D 00:16 0:00 xmms > > > kosuke9027 0.0 0.0 0

Re: can't kill a PID

On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 12:31:17AM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > Won't work. processes are ones which have died, but the > kernel is keeping them around in case their parent cares about it's > return value. AFAIK, it'll hang around, consuming no CPU time but some > amount of swap, until you reboot.

Needed: Hardware recommendateons for Wireless Networking

Thanks to help from the list I now have a one computer network with a dsl connection to the internet. There are two other computers in our house which could benefit from this connection. One suggestion was to run wires through the heating ducts but this does not seem feasable in our case. Before

Re: bash scripting question

Neal Lippman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-02 22:51:00 -0500]: > I am trying to solve a bash scripting problem, but I cannot figure it > out. > > I frequently need to execute a command of the form: > for x in {A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z); do >;

Re: where is the potato archive (specifically a potato compatable mozilla .deb package)?

On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 04:24:48AM +1100, brett hennig wrote: > anyway, i can't see potato at: > > http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/ It's still in the main archive. deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian potato main contrib non-free > what i really want is a version of mozilla that >

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 07:32:16PM +0200, Johan Ehnberg wrote: > Yes, you really sound like you've attended a Microsoft talk. :=). > Congratulations, you have been brain washed.

usb Cable modem entry in interfaces

what entry must be written in interfaces for a usb cable modem, probably using usb-uhci module? That is, I assume that ethx will not work here. Thanks to all -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: bash scripting question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-03 18:15:06 +0200]: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 10:05:45PM -0600, Michael Heironimus wrote: > > alpha="a b c d e z" > > for x in $alpha ; do > > echo $x > > done > > > > I think this should work in any Bourne-style shell > > Doesn't wo

Re: bash scripting question

Matthias Hentges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-03 18:32:29 +0100]: > Am Son, 2002-11-03 um 04.51 schrieb Neal Lippman: > > I frequently need to execute a command of the form: > > for x in {A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z); do > Your problem ist the wrong setting of th

RE: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

I've read that FAQ, and have to say I'm unimpressed. As I've stated before, there are only two routes to control information: control the container, or control the conduits. It's really hard to control the container because people are smart, and generally ornery sons-of-bitches. Containers can (an

Thread Stealing (was: Installing debian via network)

Michael Naumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-11-03 16:19:09 +0100]: > 03.11.2002 04:29:40, Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [Please start a new thread for a new question, it makes it much easier > > for people to follow the list and makes it more likely that you'll get > > an answer.] > > I'm

Re: Making a java 1.4.1 deb

"mdevin" == mdevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: mdevin> I have been running jdk1.4.1 beta for the past 3 months mdevin> which I got from Sun's download area and it works fine. mdevin> Why can't it be a .deb so that the package management mdevin> system can maintain it? I don't

Re: Making a java 1.4.1 deb

- Original Message - From: "Rupert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: Re: Making a java 1.4.1 deb > Do you know why I can't get this in Woody? Specifically, why can't apt > see the testing or unstable versions of installwatch? > >

Broken packages.

A mysterious thing. I run debian unstable. Once in two or three days I run aptitude update && aptitude upgrade, and it proceeds without any visible errors - no- thing seems to be wrong. However, sometimes I get a 'truncated packages' -- a packages that looks like incomplete. For example, righ

Re: gnome-terminal depends on docbookxml, sgml-date, etc.

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 05:43:48PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > Package gnome-terminal seems to depend (transitively) on a lot things. > > Is it really supposed to require installing packages such as docbookxml, > libxslt, and sgml-data? Welcome to scrollkeeper ... -- Colin Watson

Re: X upgrade broke DRI

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 05:31:33PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > Hello all, > Up until today, I had DRI support with my ATI Rage 128 card, using the > ati driver and X 4.1. Today's upgrade (running sarge) noticeably > dropped my frame rate, so I did some looking around. [...] > This implies too ol

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > [ I've pruned the giant list of innappropriate and off-topic CCs ] > > On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 11:57:51PM +0100, Hauke Goos-Habermann wrote: > >>Microsoft plans to kill all OpenSource software on hardware level. This >>technology is called TCPA. > > > FUD! FUD FUD FUD FUD

Re: configuring mail

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 06:55:12PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 11:58:10AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > Remove the spaces around those equals signs. So: > > > > set realname="Sandip P Deshmukh" > > set [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > I imagine this will solve most of the other

Re: bash scripting question

Am Son, 2002-11-03 um 04.51 schrieb Neal Lippman: > I am trying to solve a bash scripting problem, but I cannot figure it > out. > > I frequently need to execute a command of the form: > for x in {A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z); do >; > don

where is the potato archive (specifically a potato compatable mozilla .deb package)?

Hi, I am a very limited user of debian using potato (2.2) and want to locate the archive so i can get, among other things, a potato version of mozilla. anyway, i can't see potato at: http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/ what i really want is a version of mozilla that supports SSL (i t

Re: Moving mboxen

Am Son, 2002-11-03 um 07.33 schrieb Alex Malinovich: > Now that I finally have my router up and running with Debian I have a > formerly underpowered W2K-running 350 MHz box acting as a very > OVER-powered Debian box. :) I need more work for it to do, and one of > the jobs that I'm thinking of is mo

Re: usb mouse

Matthias Hentges wrote: Am Son, 2002-11-03 um 15.37 schrieb Alexey Chetroi: Hello All, I've installed hotplug package to get my usb mouse working and it works under X untill next reboot. After reboot I have to replug my mouse otherwise there won't be any devices under /dev/input I'm using kerne

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

[ I've pruned the giant list of innappropriate and off-topic CCs ] On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 11:57:51PM +0100, Hauke Goos-Habermann wrote: > Microsoft plans to kill all OpenSource software on hardware level. This > technology is called TCPA. FUD! FUD FUD FUD FUD!!! This is completely all wrong. R

Re: usb mouse

Am Son, 2002-11-03 um 15.37 schrieb Alexey Chetroi: > Hello All, > > I've installed hotplug package to get my usb mouse working > and it works under X untill next reboot. After reboot I have > to replug my mouse otherwise there won't be any devices under > /dev/input > I'm using kernel-image-2.

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 08:49:15AM -0800, Bob Nielsen wrote: > Hopefully AMD will make non-TCPA x86 chips rather than caving-in to > the M$/Intel collusion. No such luck, AMD is part of the TCPA consortium too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: Microsoft's plans to kill open source: TCPA

Bob Nielsen wrote: On Sun, Nov 03, 2002 at 07:52:39PM +1100, Russell wrote: Alan Chandler wrote: If we then have a situation where Windows software has all these controls built in to it - with keys being controlled back at Redmond, and Linux with the keys being controlled by the owner of the PC

Locale for ISO-8601 date format?

What locale (LC_TIME) should I use to get dates in the ISO-8601 format? -- Vincent Lefèvre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Web: - 100% validated (X)HTML - Acorn Risc PC, Yellow Pig 17, Championnat International des Jeux Mathématiques et Logiques, TETRHEX, etc. Work: CR INRIA - comp

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