Re: apt-get remove

2001-07-01 Thread John R Lenton
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 12:44:24AM -0400, User zos wrote: > I'm sorry...its been a super crazy night (and I mean ULTRA) and this has > been bothering me for a while. Is there a specific benefit to not deleting > this stuff after I have decided that I no longer want something installed > on my box?

Re: need man 5 regexp

2001-07-01 Thread John R Lenton
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 05:00:49PM +, Pollywog wrote: > I need the man page for regexp but can't seem to locate it. > Anyone know where I can obtain it? I searched the Packages page but could > not find it there. I'm late in the thread, so maybe someone's answered you already: it isn't regex

apt-get remove

2001-07-01 Thread User zos
When I remove a package, apt often leaves various shared and configuration files laying around. Is there a way to remove everything automatically? Its just seems like a waste of time to go and clean out /etc and whatever else apt leaves laying around after I remove something. Often I end up with a

Re: Xfree86 3.3.6 on i810 : Getting error

2001-07-01 Thread Debian GNU
I have run xf86config and did the modifications as directed in intel's site documentation. Deb --- Jonathan Daugherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you run XF86Setup? > > -- > > Jonathan Daugherty > Dept. of Computer Science / UCNS Workstation Support > Group > The University of Georgia >

Re: networking script in Debian

2001-07-01 Thread will trillich
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 03:31:59PM -0700, Wing wrote: > >$ ls -l /etc/rc?.d/???networking > >lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Dec 31 1997 > /etc/rc0.d/S35networking -> ../init.d/networking > >lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Dec 31 1997 > /etc/rc6.d/S35networking -> ../init.d/

Re: need man 5 regexp

2001-07-01 Thread will trillich
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 05:00:49PM +, Pollywog wrote: > I need the man page for regexp but can't seem to locate it. > Anyone know where I can obtain it? I searched the Packages page but could > not find it there. also perldoc perlre if you're into the perl incarnation of Regular Ex

Re: PostgreSQL 7.1 packages for potato

2001-07-01 Thread will trillich
Oliver Elphick wrote: > Packages of PostgreSQL 7.1 for potato are now available from > http://people.debian.org/~elphick/postgresql/potato.html i'm betting this was covered on-list somewhere but i've not found it-- i've been using postgresql 7.0.3/potato for several months with no trouble at all

Re: first time deb user: how to tweak xserver fonts?

2001-07-01 Thread Christopher M. Jones
> What output does "xlsfonts" give you (don't paste in if it's a lot). > > Cheers, > > > Joost xlsfonts gives me -bunches- of output. Standard adobe stuff, b&h, bitstream, cronyx, ... KDE, for instance, uses a good font. The applications that suffer are gtk apps like gnome-apt, and other random

Relocating Mailman lists

2001-07-01 Thread Dave Sherohman
I've recently had a drive go flaky on me and when the machine died, several files were corrupted. I'm now trying to bring everything back up on a new machine, copying over only what I must. This is turning out well, except that I haven't been able to get my mailing lists working. I've cpio'd ove

Re: Xfree86 3.3.6 on i810 : Getting error

2001-07-01 Thread Jonathan Daugherty
Have you run XF86Setup? -- Jonathan Daugherty Dept. of Computer Science / UCNS Workstation Support Group The University of Georgia /^.{10}\ +\d+\ +(\d+|\w+)\ +(\d+|\w+)\ +(\d+(\.\d+|)(M|k|G|)).*/ - master ls!

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Paul M Foster
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 04:16:48PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > Debian is working with a group from RH and elsewhere on a interchangeable > packaging system, but it is a ways off. > This is the real answer. LSB has compromised in a way that benefits the most distributions. As is often

windows manager list in KDM

2001-07-01 Thread techlists
I just had the problem on 2 computers. I recently did a fresh install of Debian 2.2 r2 on my Desktop and my Laptop. I installed most packages,xfree86, gnome, etc From the cd it installs XDM, and makes Window maker my default. No biggy, because untill I started using KDE, window maker was my

Xfree86 3.3.6 on i810 : Getting error

2001-07-01 Thread Debian GNU
Hello all, In my potato with xfree86-3.3.6, running inteln810e, I tried to install xserver using the rpms downloaded from intel's site, converted to debin using alien. I got the instructions from our list members. After installation, when i try to start X I am getting error as shown below and it is

iptables modules kill ppp

2001-07-01 Thread Matthew Garman
Hello: I posted not too long ago about PPP not working with my new kernel. The culprit turned out to be the iptables modules. When the following modules are loaded, PPP won't work: Module Size Used by ipt_REJECT 3168 2 (autoclean) ipt_state864

Re: newbie tip

2001-07-01 Thread will trillich
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 01:32:02AM +0200, "J?rgen A. Erhard" wrote: > will> i do have other tips that deal with this snag (some perl, some > will> vim) -- and if you'd like to recommend a different solution, i'd > will> be delighted to include it in my list (properly attributed, of >

Re: menu

2001-07-01 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 05:26:03PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > After adding the new options as I have done in the past for other distros, I > > find that there has been no change to my menu options. What is the correct > > way to personalize my menu options? > > > > cd /usr/share/doc

Re: [users] ppp and kernel 2.4.5

2001-07-01 Thread Matthew Garman
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 03:19:27AM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: > also sprach garman (on Sun, 01 Jul 2001 08:18:25PM -0500): > > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse > > Iface > > 207.144.202.10 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 > >

Re: Apache config question

2001-07-01 Thread Mark Wagnon
Hi Dimi! Thanks for the reply. On 07/01/01 17:02:36 -0500, Dimitri Maziuk wrote: > > What does /var/log/apache/error.log say? > [Fri Jun 29 20:10:47 2001] [alert] apache: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 24.5.8.184 for ServerName [Fri Jun 29 20:10:47 2001] [

Re: [users] ppp and kernel 2.4.5

2001-07-01 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach garman (on Sun, 01 Jul 2001 08:18:25PM -0500): > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface > 207.144.202.10 * 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 > default 207.144.202.10 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 >

RE: [users] ppp and kernel 2.4.5

2001-07-01 Thread garman
>= Original Message From "Martin F. Krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> = >also sprach matthew neil garman (on Sun, 01 Jul 2001 03:37:27PM -0500): >> However, no network programs will run. For example, fetchmail quits with >> a "temporary nameserver error." My /etc/resolv.conf file is correct---i

Re: Screensaver doesn't work anymore ...

2001-07-01 Thread G.LeeJ
> > A better solution in times like these is to find out where the files > are being sought: if you have a config file that searches in > /usr/X11R6/bin/lmorph, change the *config* file to > /usr/X11R6/lib/xscreensaver. I'd say to start by opening up > ~/.xscreensaver and seeing if it uses absolute

Transfer stalls with proftpd in 12 minute intervals

2001-07-01 Thread André Dahlqvist
Hi everyone, People have been experiencing dropped downloads from my FTP because of transfer stalls. I am using the proftpd server, in standalone mode, and I did some grepping in my /var/log/daemon and found this: Jul 1 23:56:52 sledgehammer proftpd[5619]: sledgehammer (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx[xxx.xxx.

Re: Maestro sound

2001-07-01 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 10:51:49AM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote: > > >"Darryl L. Pierce" wrote: > >> > >> I have ESS Maestro 2E sound hardward on my laptop. When I built my kernel > >> (2 > >.2.19) I made > >> sure to enable it and have verified in /var/log/dmesg that the module(s) > >> get > >s

RE: menu

2001-07-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Jul-2001 Thomas Champion wrote: > Greeting all. I am attempting to personalize my menu optins in WindowMaker. > After adding the new options as I have done in the past for other distros, I > find that there has been no change to my menu options. What is the correct > way to personalize my

menu

2001-07-01 Thread Thomas Champion
Greeting all. I am attempting to personalize my menu optins in WindowMaker. After adding the new options as I have done in the past for other distros, I find that there has been no change to my menu options. What is the correct way to personalize my menu options? thanks for any help. Thom

Re: Where is syslogd started ???

2001-07-01 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Thank you. Moritz Schulte wrote: > > "Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Where and how is syslogd started at bootup? > > /etc/init.d/sysklogd is the init script. This gets called via the > links in /etc/rc?.d/ (or via /etc/runlevel.conf, if you're using > file-rc). -- Best

Re: pppd troubles

2001-07-01 Thread Cormac McGuinness
> > Jun 19 16:56:35 orange pppd[1408]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0 > > Jun 19 16:56:35 orange pppd[1408]: Couldn't attach tty to PPP unit 0: > >Invalid argument > > Jun 19 16:56:35 orange pppd[1408]: tcsetattr: Invalid argument > > Jun 19 16:56:35 orange pppd[1408]: Exit. > > I brow

Re: Iomega CDRW USB

2001-07-01 Thread Patrick Ouellette
Try the usb storage driver. I haven't tried Iomega's USB cdrw, but the one I have tried uses the usb storage driver. On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 12:38:59AM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty wrote: > Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2001 00:38:59 -0500 > From: Jonathan Daugherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Debian User List >

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread John Hasler
Wayne Topa writes: > ...I would suggest that you download pppconfig,... He already has it. It is in base. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Me wrote: > The goal is to develop and promote a set of standards > that will increase compatibility among Linux distributions > and enable software applications to run on any compliant > Linux system. That's a nice description of the LSB. Wichert. -- __

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Me
> When I've mentioned about incompabilities between > distros then I've mentioned about not only packaging > format. I can only repeat that you expect to much if you > think that common packaging format is the only problem > of differences between distros. > > Please try to use something different

Re: process w/o attached tty?

2001-07-01 Thread Tom Massey
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 03:36:54PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote: > This doesn't answer the original question: background or not, when a > terminal is closed, it HUPs all of its child processes. True, if you > background a task you can use the Eterm to start other processes as > well, but when you clos

Re: DPMS broken in xfree 4.x/gnome 1.4?

2001-07-01 Thread G.LeeJ
> In gnome Control Center, under Destop/Screensaver, I have: > > No Screensaer > but also: > Start after 3 minutes > Require Password (not selected) > Priority (about in the middle) > Use Power Management (selected) > Shitdown monitor 10 minutes after screen saver has started. > duplicate except I

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: Re. Total Confusion Date: Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700 In reply to:Sidney Brooks Quoting Sidney Brooks([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > For those of you who tried to help with my problem, several weeks ago, here > is a statement of the problem and solution. > order to get

Re: Where is syslogd started ???

2001-07-01 Thread Moritz Schulte
"Michael D. Schleif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Where and how is syslogd started at bootup? /etc/init.d/sysklogd is the init script. This gets called via the links in /etc/rc?.d/ (or via /etc/runlevel.conf, if you're using file-rc). moritz -- Moritz Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http:/

Re: process w/o attached tty?

2001-07-01 Thread Vineet Kumar
This doesn't answer the original question: background or not, when a terminal is closed, it HUPs all of its child processes. True, if you background a task you can use the Eterm to start other processes as well, but when you close that Eterm, anything you started from it will be HUPed, and will clo

Re: networking script in Debian

2001-07-01 Thread Wing
>$ ls -l /etc/rc?.d/???networking >lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Dec 31 1997 /etc/rc0.d/S35networking -> ../init.d/networking >lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Dec 31 1997 /etc/rc6.d/S35networking -> ../init.d/networking >lrwxrwxrwx1 root root 20 Dec 31 1

?True type fonts?

2001-07-01 Thread Alan Davis
I have seen some instructions for improving fonts in Netscape, often using True Type fonts. I resist moving any MS products onto my machine. Are there philosophical or practical arguements for or against using TT fonts? This question also touches upon TeX/LaTex; I have also seen instructions

Where is syslogd started ???

2001-07-01 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Where and how is syslogd started at bootup? -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 888.250.3987 "Dare to fix things before they break . . . " "Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . "

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød
Mariusz Przygodzki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When I've mentioned about incompabilities between distros then I've mentioned > about not only packaging format. I can only repeat that you expect to much if > you think that common packaging format is the only problem of differences > between di

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Mariusz Przygodzki
On Sunday 01 July 2001 23:50, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mariusz Przygodzki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes > > >On Sunday 01 July 2001 18:29, Timothy H. Keitt wrote: > >> Instead of having, for example, WordPerfect for RedHat, > >> WordPerfect for Debian, WordPerfect

Re: [users] ppp and kernel 2.4.5

2001-07-01 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach matthew neil garman (on Sun, 01 Jul 2001 03:37:27PM -0500): > However, no network programs will run. For example, fetchmail quits with > a "temporary nameserver error." My /etc/resolv.conf file is correct---it > has two "nameserver" entries. When I try to run nslookup, it dies, and >

Re: Apache config question

2001-07-01 Thread Dimitri Maziuk
* Mark Wagnon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) spake thusly: > On 07/01/01 13:51:29 -0700, Eric G. Miller wrote: > > > $ /etc/init.d/apache start ??? > > Yeah, I did that, several times. That's why I'm scratching my head > wondering what else I may have done. What does /var/log/apache/error.log say? Dima --

Re: [users] Re: random lines

2001-07-01 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach Thomas J. Hamman (on Sun, 01 Jul 2001 01:32:54PM -0400): > I like Python. :) mailman is written in python, right? from my experience, python scripts always take 1-2 seconds to load before they execute. that's kind of a pain. i don't know how python and shell interact - since i plan to

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mariusz Przygodzki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >On Sunday 01 July 2001 18:29, Timothy H. Keitt wrote: >> Instead of having, for example, WordPerfect for RedHat, >> WordPerfect for Debian, WordPerfect for YourDistributionHere, you simply >> have WordPerfect for LSB. >

Re: slow slrn download problem

2001-07-01 Thread Joey Hess
Dale Morris wrote: > Since my latest apt-get upgrade and the newer version of > slrn(0.9.7-5), my download of newsgroups has slowed to a crawl. If I > remove the .slrnrc from my home directory, speed goes back to normal. > If I change the setup in the /etc/news/slrn.rc file, the same thing > happen

Re: USB support for Palm m500?

2001-07-01 Thread Gregory T. Norris
The visor module doesn't work, unfortunately. A serial cradle with a serial-to-usb adapter took care of it, tho. Thanx! On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 11:34:06AM +0200, Matthias Gasser wrote: > I think the Visor Option should help you. > > you need that package: usbutils i think. > > Read your Kerne

Re: harddisk woes after power outage

2001-07-01 Thread Robert Waldner
On Sun, 01 Jul 2001 11:09:00 +0200, Robert Waldner writes: > > >Seems like time to re-format and -partition the disk and restore > from backup. Ok, so from now on I can at least say: been there, done that. Not Funny (tm), although it /seems/ to work for some hours now. >Holy Shit, and my plan

Re: [users] Re: how to prevent apt-get upgrading a package?

2001-07-01 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach Stig Brautaset (on Sun, 01 Jul 2001 06:37:56PM +0100): > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > E: Couldn't find package apt-console my bad. console-apt. it's in stable, but i couldn't find it in testing anymore... martin; (greetings from the h

Re: slow slrn download problem

2001-07-01 Thread Balbir Thomas
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 01:55:03PM -0700, Dale Morris wrote: > Since my latest apt-get upgrade and the newer version of > slrn(0.9.7-5), my download of newsgroups has slowed to a crawl. If I > remove the .slrnrc from my home directory, speed goes back to normal. > If I change the setup in the /etc/

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2001-07-01 Thread Philipp Stawksi
Hello! I`ve installed Debian Gnu/Linux 2.2 "Potato",basic system works great(!), but now I`m facing two problems:   1.When running XF86Setup or xf86config, I do not find my video card listed in the card definitions! (NVIDIA TNT2 Model 64)Thus, when selecting NVIDIA TNT2 and running the SVGA-S

Re: Apache config question

2001-07-01 Thread Mark Wagnon
On 07/01/01 13:51:29 -0700, Eric G. Miller wrote: > $ /etc/init.d/apache start ??? Yeah, I did that, several times. That's why I'm scratching my head wondering what else I may have done. Thanks though ;-) -- Mark Wagnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [users] Re: how to prevent apt-get upgrading a package?

2001-07-01 Thread Henry White
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 06:47:44PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: > also sprach Stig Brautaset (on Sun, 01 Jul 2001 05:40:53PM +0100): > > dselect is evil, I am sure of it. > > try apt-console. > > martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) > \ echo mailto: !#^."<*>"|tr "<

Re: how to prevent apt-get upgrading a package?

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 05:40:53PM +0100, Stig Brautaset wrote: > bah. dselect is one of the most confusing things I have ever > seen. Much easier to do: > > dpkg --get-selections > selections > > then edit the file "selections" so that the word "hold" is replaced > with "installed" for the packa

Re: DPMS broken in xfree 4.x/gnome 1.4?

2001-07-01 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, G.LeeJ wrote: > Rick Macdonald wrote: > > > On 3 different machines, DPMS no longer turns off my monitors after > > upgrading to woody/sid/XFree86 4.x/gnome 1.4. The screen goes blank, but > > it doesn't do the suspend/off. > > > > mine works fine as long as I don't set a scr

Re: [users] Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Sean" == Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> IMNSHO the LSB seriously erred on this, the .deb format makes >> far more sense as a baseline package format standard then rpm >> for the simple reason that the .deb format isn't really a >> format, its just an ar a

slow slrn download problem

2001-07-01 Thread Dale Morris
Since my latest apt-get upgrade and the newer version of slrn(0.9.7-5), my download of newsgroups has slowed to a crawl. If I remove the .slrnrc from my home directory, speed goes back to normal. If I change the setup in the /etc/news/slrn.rc file, the same thing happens. I've done the slrn.rc-conv

Re: Apache config question

2001-07-01 Thread Eric G. Miller
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 12:12:51PM -0700, Mark Wagnon wrote: > Hi all- > > Scratch that. I had to reboot for some recreational activities under > Windows last night, and when I came back to Debian this morning, > Apache was working fine. I thought that by simply restarting the > server would have

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Mariusz Przygodzki
On Sunday 01 July 2001 22:25, Joey Hess wrote: > Mariusz Przygodzki wrote: > > I am sorry but it will be not work in this case because you may have WP > > for LSB for RH vX, WP for LSB for Debian vX etc. etc (every time the > > same version of WP). > > The LSB mandates that specific versions of sha

Re: DPMS broken in xfree 4.x/gnome 1.4?

2001-07-01 Thread G.LeeJ
Rick Macdonald wrote: > On 3 different machines, DPMS no longer turns off my monitors after > upgrading to woody/sid/XFree86 4.x/gnome 1.4. The screen goes blank, but > it doesn't do the suspend/off. > mine works fine as long as I don't set a screensaver ..I understand its a bug in 1.4 ? lee

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Casper Gielen
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 07:34:05PM +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: > > And that's why I find it good, that Debian uses a different format from > RPM. There's simply no risk for me to install a package that hoses up > my system integrity. With DEB I'm forced to go the apt-get route. I > can downl

ppp and kernel 2.4.5

2001-07-01 Thread matthew neil garman
Hello: I just upgraded my kernel from version 2.2.18 to 2.4.5. I am running the "potato" version of all my programs, except the following: modutils 2.4.6-2.bunk ppp 2.4.1-0.bunk modconf 0.2.32 I downloaded these .deb's from the following link: http://www.fs.tum

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 11:34:15AM -0400, Alan Shutko wrote: > It does include a References: header. Indeed the message did, my bad. Someone else pointed out that the threading worked fine in mutt for him. So perhaps it's just broken on my side. Cheers, Joost

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Joey Hess
Mariusz Przygodzki wrote: > I am sorry but it will be not work in this case because you may have WP for > LSB for RH vX, WP for LSB for Debian vX etc. etc (every time the same version > of WP). The LSB mandates that specific versions of shared libraries be installed (right down to the symbols th

Re: first time deb user: how to tweak xserver fonts?

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 09:25:21PM -0500, Christopher M. Jones wrote: > Installed are: > > xfonts-100dpi > xfonts-75dpi > xfonts-base > xfonts-cryillic > xfonts-pex > xfonts-scalable. What output does "xlsfonts" give you (don't paste in if it's a lot). Cheers, Joost

Re: Speeding up Kernel compiles using make-kpkg

2001-07-01 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:42:20PM -0500, S . Salman Ahmed wrote: > > Is there any way to pass the "-j " option to make when building > kernels using make-kpkg ? RTFM. 'man kernel-pkg.conf' and search for CONCURRENCY_LEVEL or just '-j'. > I am hoping that by passing the "-j" option to make, ker

Re: Speeding up Kernel compiles using make-kpkg

2001-07-01 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:42:20PM -0500, S.Salman Ahmed uttered: > > Is there any way to pass the "-j " option to make when building > kernels using make-kpkg ? > Read the README for kernel-package. Make a .kernel-pkg.conf in ~ as the user you compile it as. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i concurr

Re: `holding back' packages?

2001-07-01 Thread Mario Vukelic
On 01 Jul 2001 12:38:10 -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: > Yeah, but unstable is unstable ;) With potato + custom stuff I have a > compromise that suits me pretty well. And even unstable doesn't > provide every piece of software on the planet. There's nothing to say against stable + reasonab

Re: `holding back' packages?

2001-07-01 Thread Krzys Majewski
> > Bottom line for me is, it's my box, I need to override Debian > > occasionally. There used to be (still is?) this thing called `equiv' > > for registering locally installed things with dpkg, but it's more of a > > hassle than I'm willing to put up with for every tarball I

Re: big problem

2001-07-01 Thread neonatus
* On 01-07-01 at 16:17 Joost Kooij ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: +Here quoted text begins+ > What if you did "strace -o /tmp/dpkg.strace dpkg $options" instead? > Look at the output file if dpkg is stuck on some system call. > Hmm it seams you were right... it was stuck on ldconfig... but now

Re: Printing Question

2001-07-01 Thread Mark Wagnon
Thanks for the response! On 07/01/01 11:05:45 +0800, Lamer wrote: > "install progeny, it does all" I've had it installed once, but I didn't like it. I may not be that bright of a guy, but I still like to look under the hood and get my hands dirty. > and > > "then upgrade to woody" Well, that'

Re: Samba: Can't Rename the Log File

2001-07-01 Thread Vineet Kumar
Check your /etc/samba/smb.conf to ensure that it does *not* contain a line that says syslog only = yes just a shot in the dark... Also, here's a snippet from /etc/cron.weekly/samba which may or may not have some relevance to your situation: # /var/log/samba/log.nmbd and /var/log/samba/log.smbd

Re: Netscape setup

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 11:59:20AM -0500, Larry W. Irwin Sr. wrote: > I just installed Debian potato and want to use Netscape. I went to the > Debian > website and found two .deb packages, netscape-base-476_4.76-1.deb and > netscape-base4_4.76-1.deb. These packages installed properly but I don

Re: `holding back' packages?

2001-07-01 Thread Alan Shutko
Krzys Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I know RPM won't overwrite files that have been touched. That's incorrect. It will either backup config files and overwrite, or create a .rpmnew, depending on the the RPM. > Then again RPM doesn't seem to distinguish between binaries and > config fi

Re: Apache config question

2001-07-01 Thread Mark Wagnon
Hi all- Scratch that. I had to reboot for some recreational activities under Windows last night, and when I came back to Debian this morning, Apache was working fine. I thought that by simply restarting the server would have sufficed, but whatever occurred during the boot process seemed to do the

Re: Quick Lilo question...

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 12:54:16PM -0400, Aaron Traas wrote: > I've finally got Lilo set up just how I want it, almost. I'd like a boot > option that sends me straight into single user mode. Yes, I know I can > just enter "Linux single" at the boot prompt (or something similar... I > don't quite re

Re: `holding back' packages?

2001-07-01 Thread Mario Vukelic
On 01 Jul 2001 11:42:41 -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: > On 1 Jul 2001, Mario Vukelic wrote: > > use dselect. You can put pkgs on hold with "=" > > Thanks. Is this persistent, in the sense that I can use dselect to > hold back the packages, quit dselect, and apt-get will do the right > thing?

Re: dropping network connection

2001-07-01 Thread Ian Marlier
Well, it turns out that it's a hardware bug with the auto-sensing ethernet port built into the motherboard used in the beige G3's. The ethernet controller polls the nearest hub/switch to find out whether the network is 10/T or 100/T. The hub responds, but the controller decides before getting teh

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Andrew Perrin
On 1 Jul 2001, John Hasler wrote: > Sidney Brooks writes: > > Why would you want to use wvdial when pon works? wvdial is just a hack > > that tries to avoid making you set up pon. Actually, 'twas I who wrote that. > > This is not true. Wvdial includes some rather sophisticated > autoconfigurat

Re: PS/2 mouse problems... IRQ conflict?

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 07:53:18PM +0200, Hugo van der Merwe wrote: > I've had problems with X input... basically, after doing some stuff, the > keyboard and PS/2 mouse would stop working altogether... (the serial > mouse still worked...) until I figured out to disable the PS/2 mouse. I > am now op

Re: `holding back' packages?

2001-07-01 Thread Krzys Majewski
On 1 Jul 2001, Mario Vukelic wrote: > On 01 Jul 2001 10:53:56 -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: > > 1. How can I `hold back' packages so Debian doesn't upgrade them? > > use dselect. You can put pkgs on hold with "=" Thanks. Is this persistent, in the sense that I can use dselect to hold back t

Re: [users] Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Sun, 1 Jul 2001, Matti Airas wrote: > On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 11:57:17PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: > > > dpkg -s > > > > you really should rtfm... > > Well, thank you for suggesting so kindly. The '-s' switch does exactly > what I want, but the manual page didn't even slightly hint of it. >

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
[some extra quoting added, because your mailer doesn't and it would be confusing as to what were your words and what were others' words.] On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 08:21:07AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: >> 2.) It's been a long time since I used minicom, but am I totally wrong in >> thinking it's a

Re: [users] Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 01:08:04AM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: > you can for example extract a .deb on a stock slackware > system, not true of rpm. (unless slackware started including rpm in > the base since i last looked..) Slackware comes with RPM

Re: `holding back' packages?

2001-07-01 Thread Mario Vukelic
On 01 Jul 2001 10:53:56 -0700, Krzys Majewski wrote: > 1. How can I `hold back' packages so Debian doesn't upgrade them? use dselect. You can put pkgs on hold with "=" > 2. Does apt-get/dpkg always overwrite existing files, or only if their > timestamps are older than the corresponding file in t

Re: Netscape setup

2001-07-01 Thread Mario Vukelic
On 01 Jul 2001 11:59:20 -0500, Larry W. Irwin Sr. wrote: > I just installed Debian potato and want to use Netscape. I went to the > Debian > website and found two .deb packages Hm, this sounds as if you downloaded the debs per hand and installed them with dpkg -i. Is there some special reason

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`holding back' packages?

2001-07-01 Thread Krzys Majewski
1. How can I `hold back' packages so Debian doesn't upgrade them? 2. Does apt-get/dpkg always overwrite existing files, or only if their timestamps are older than the corresponding file in the .deb? I run a customized potato box. Usually I keep custom stuff separate from Debian by installing

PS/2 mouse problems... IRQ conflict?

2001-07-01 Thread Hugo van der Merwe
Hello, I've had problems with X input... basically, after doing some stuff, the keyboard and PS/2 mouse would stop working altogether... (the serial mouse still worked...) until I figured out to disable the PS/2 mouse. I am now operating without it. I find that if I enable it, after some work, inp

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Mariusz Przygodzki
On Sunday 01 July 2001 18:29, Timothy H. Keitt wrote: > Instead of having, for example, WordPerfect for RedHat, > WordPerfect for Debian, WordPerfect for YourDistributionHere, you simply > have WordPerfect for LSB. I am sorry but it will be not work in this case because you may have WP for LSB f

Re: [users] Re: how to prevent apt-get upgrading a package?

2001-07-01 Thread Stig Brautaset
"Martin F. Krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Stig Brautaset (on Sun, 01 Jul 2001 05:40:53PM +0100): > > dselect is evil, I am sure of it. > > try apt-console. arwen:~# apt-console su: apt-console: command not found arwen:~# apt-get install apt-console Reading Package Lists... D

Re: [users] Re: random lines

2001-07-01 Thread Thomas J. Hamman
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 06:12:49PM +0200, Martin F. Krafft wrote: > > from random import * > > from linecache import * > > print getline('~/.muttrc',randrange(1,20)) > > except that hardcodes the file length, does it not? Yep, like I said it was a quickie example. Here's something that wouldn't

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Viktor Rosenfeld
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > RPM is not inherently bad. RH (and others) simply do not have a common > standards set that must be followed like Debian does. And that's why I find it good, that Debian uses a different format from RPM. There's simply no risk for me to install a package that hoses

[users] Re: random lines

2001-07-01 Thread Steven Smolinski
"Martin F. Krafft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Thomas J. Hamman (on Sun, 01 Jul 2001 11:58:32AM -0400): > > What exactly is this for? You could use fortune and strfile. Make > > the text file with a % symbol between each selection, like this: > > a list of albums that i have on mp3

which is the debian way for stunnel?

2001-07-01 Thread aparra
In the /usr/doc/stunnel/examples there is an example for use stunnel with some services. is it the correct way to use with debian? Thank you for all Angel

Quick Lilo question...

2001-07-01 Thread Aaron Traas
I've finally got Lilo set up just how I want it, almost. I'd like a boot option that sends me straight into single user mode. Yes, I know I can just enter "Linux single" at the boot prompt (or something similar... I don't quite remember), but I'm lazy, and would like a boot option I can select from

Exim help

2001-07-01 Thread aparra
I will like to use the "host_auth_accept_relay" option from exim, but it doesn work. I am usin exim 3.12-10 from debian 2.2. Do I need to recompile exim with "AUTH_CRAM_MD5=yes"??? Can anybody give me an example of comfiguration for accept relays to anywhere form anywhere if the user has a cor

Netscape setup

2001-07-01 Thread Larry W. Irwin Sr.
I just installed Debian potato and want to use Netscape. I went to the Debian website and found two .deb packages, netscape-base-476_4.76-1.deb and netscape-base4_4.76-1.deb. These packages installed properly but I don't know what to do with them. What do I need to do? Larry

Re: Time to fight for our beloved DEB format!

2001-07-01 Thread Joey Hess
Matti Airas wrote: > On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 04:16:48PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > # apt-get install rpm > > # rpm -i --nodeps foo.rpm > > Uh, wouldn't that be horribly dangerous, as it would bypass dpkg > altogether? Alien would probably be a safer choice... That's the reason I go

Re: [users] Re: how to prevent apt-get upgrading a package?

2001-07-01 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 11:14:52AM -0500, Richard Cobbe wrote: > Given this, it's unclear to me why one would want to use apt-get upgrade. Because it's safer, and less likely to bork your system, I suppose. It'll keep your system up to date without changing your package configuration at all. -Nel

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