Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-11 Thread Uwe Brauer
On 10 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On 10 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> I forget to add one important thing of course, the Xemacs package system which allows on the fly actualization. Emacs has nothing similar. >>> >>> A

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-11 Thread Uwe Brauer
On 10 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Quoting Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> On 10 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> I forget to add one important thing of course, the Xemacs package system which allows on the fly actualization. Emacs has nothing similar. >>> >>> A

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-11 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > No idea. There was also the multi tty support that Emacs was lacking > > but which has been implemented recently. > > What is multi tty support? >From the author: "you can create frames on multiple tty de

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-11 Thread Florent Rougon
Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is multi tty support? Having a single Emacs process display several frames on different terminals (virtual consoles, xterms... well, ttys). If you invoke emacsclient or gnuclient in a terminal with DISPLAY unset, it can be found nice to have it appear i

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Ben Pfaff
JÃrÃme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No idea. There was also the multi tty support that Emacs was lacking > but which has been implemented recently. What is multi tty support?

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 10 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> I forget to add one important thing of course, the Xemacs package > >> system which allows on the fly actualization. Emacs has nothing > >> similar. > > > > According to what I read, it is not a missing f

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
> "RK" == Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: RK> Talking about GNU Emacs and XEmacs lately ... I am playing in my RK> mind with switching from Woody do Gentoo Since with Gentoo you compile all you install, take the GNU Emacs tarball, launch the configure script and then Mak

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 13:56:11 +0100 Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, following both XEmacs and Emacs development lists, > it seems to me that XEmacs is not doing much progress these > days, especially because of a lack of manpower. > On the contrary, the GNU Emacs teem is very pr

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Uwe Brauer
On 10 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I forget to add one important thing of course, the Xemacs package >> system which allows on the fly actualization. Emacs has nothing >> similar. > > According to what I read, it is not a missing feature, it is an > unwanted feature. I'm personaly happy

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > is very productive and Emacs is not only catching up (multi tty) but > > also brings nice new features like bidirectional editing, nifty gtk2 > > widgets, configurable fringes, and so. > > That is true, the lack of BIDI support is especially annoying,

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Uwe Brauer
On 10 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mule in Emacs in not the same as the one in XEmacs, so a mule-free > version might not be relevant. A part from BIDI support what is different, I remembered when Mule started (officially) xemacs was far less buggy then emacs. > >> 3. Mail: the excelle

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Just curious. Any example of how XEmacs is in some ways superior > > to Emacs? (this is a serious question). Thanks. > > I don't know if that's changed since then, but one of the reasons I > switched from FSF Emacs to XEmacs is t

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 9 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> You are kidding? Xemacs is still in some ways superior to emacs and > >> giving up Xemacs is making debian *less* attractive. > > > > Just curious. Any example o

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Uwe Brauer
On 9 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> You are kidding? Xemacs is still in some ways superior to emacs and >> giving up Xemacs is making debian *less* attractive. > > Just curious. Any example of how XEmacs is in some ways superior to > Emacs? (this i

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-10 Thread Rodrigo Bernardo Pimentel
On Tue, Mar 09 2004 at 06:26:37PM BRT, Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You are kidding? Xemacs is still in some ways superior to emacs and > > giving up Xemacs is making debian *less* attractive. > > Just curious. Any example of how XEmacs i

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-09 Thread Jérôme Marant
Uwe Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You are kidding? Xemacs is still in some ways superior to emacs and > giving up Xemacs is making debian *less* attractive. Just curious. Any example of how XEmacs is in some ways superior to Emacs? (this is a serious question). Thanks. -- Jérôme Marant

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-09 Thread Uwe Brauer
>On 9 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Despite claims that he's around, James Lewis-Moss *still* isn't >maintaining xemacs21 or xemacs21-packages at all properly -- he >obviously doesn't have enough time. Look at the RC bugs, and note the >total lack of comment from him. > >He said he didn't

Re: Xemacs needs a real maintainer

2004-03-09 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Despite claims that he's around, James Lewis-Moss *still* isn't maintaining > xemacs21 or xemacs21-packages at all properly -- he obviously doesn't have > enough time. Look at the RC bugs, and note the total lack of comment from > him. Perhaps coul