Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-04 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 08:59:30AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I disagree. It should give recommodations on how they should be > built, to make it easier for the java developers to maintain the java > packages. Consistency reduce the work maintaining packages, and using > a common system

Re: Debian Java in Sarge

2005-06-04 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Jun 04, 2005 at 07:13:57PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Hard to tell, I haven't spend time looking. But I can give an example > of a person unable to discover that I didn't suggest forcing anyone to > do anything. I formulated a 'recommend and not require' suggestion in > my mail.

Re: linking to libssl makes non free?

2005-06-15 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:24:44PM -0400, Jiann-Ming Su wrote: > But, OpenSSL's FAQ seems to address this: > > http://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#LEGAL2 yes, but debian has taken a slightly more conservative view, because openssl is not considered part of the "Operating System" but just a

debian security archive/updates b0rken???

2005-06-18 Thread sean finney
please excuse this blatant cross-posting, i wouldn't do it if i didn't think it were critical that i do so... http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200506142140 say it isn't so! to put this in perspective, i'm currently involved with fixing a remotely exploitable vulnerability, which upstream (and

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-25 Thread sean finney
hi, On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 09:25:12AM +0100, James Troup wrote: > I'm sorry to say that Debian's hosting of machines at Above.Net has > come to an end. Michael Shields and Steve Osborn have hosted critical sorry to be a stick in the mud about this, but... why wasn't this brought up *before* it

Re: Package distribution, a concept for a modern package distribution

2005-06-25 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 06:14:46PM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote: > The concept is based on an LDAP server (or simiar) as a replacement for > the Packages file and on a P2P network for package distribution (see > http://wyodesktop.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=pkgdist.html). IMO it > would make a lot sen

Re: Package distribution, a concept for a modern package distribution

2005-06-26 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 09:16:42AM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote: > I've seen some messages about an LDAP implementation around last october > but I couldn't find them. I'm quite sure an LDAP solution is much better > than the current solution. But before implementing it, it has to be > evaluated against

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-26 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 06:05:25PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > It was sent right after the hosting died. > Should he sent "The hosting may die somewhere in the future, please > offer something just in case we need it"? well, i guess i don't know the details of the situation, but i would hope tha

problem with unstable -> testing package migration?

2005-06-27 Thread sean finney
hey, about a week ago i uploaded a package with priority=high to unstable to fix a security-related bug. for some reason, that package hasn't yet made it into unstable: http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/cacti.html anyone know more about this? i also notice the policy 3.6.2 vs 3.6.1 problem that

Re: problem with unstable -> testing package migration?

2005-06-27 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 04:44:40PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Indeed, on next mirror pulse, cacti will be in testing. I didn't really > look into this, but I assume the delay is related to the announced[1] > ftp-master outage. Several services and scripts have been temporarily > disabled

Re: mail all bug reporters

2005-06-28 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 11:46:31PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > An adopted package xxx has a lot of old bugs which are > related to very old versions. Now the maintainer changes. > Now he wants to send mails to all bug openors if the bug is > still actual and can be reproduced. while i think you sho

Re: configure a program -- debconf abuse?

2005-07-04 Thread sean finney
hi, On Mon, Jul 04, 2005 at 01:33:45PM +, Joerg Sommer wrote: > can I use debconf to ask the admin what should be the default look and > feel for the editor jed? The developers-reference manual tells us to not > abuse debconf. Is this an abuse? not necessarily, depending on how you go about i

Re: How to tell user default random pass for daemon?

2005-07-06 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 07:07:06PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > Suppose you'd like to generate a random pass by default after your > daemon is installed. How should you get that pass to the user? > Is it allowed to write it to a file in root's home dir? would be very wrong to write a file int

Re: configure a program -- debconf abuse?

2005-07-06 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 07:22:45PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > I beg to disagree here. As long as an appropriate priority is used > > (here, probably low) and the requirements mentioned by Petter are met > > too, I don't see why using debconf for its purpose would harm, > > actually. > > If

Re: How to tell user default random pass for daemon?

2005-07-08 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 02:30:22PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 07:07:06PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > > Suppose you'd like to generate a random pass by default after your > > daemon is installed. How should you get that pass to the user? > > Is it allowed to write

Re: Drop the minor release number

2005-07-08 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Jul 08, 2005 at 05:05:09PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote: > Then we would have > > Debian 4.0 for etch, 4.1 for etch stable release 1, 4.2 for etch stable > release 2, 4.2a for etch stable release 2 with a minor CD mastering fix > (for example), etc.pp. > > Does the release team agree with t

first official version of dbconfig-common now in unstable

2005-07-11 Thread sean finney
hello folks, i'm happy to announce that after somewhere close to 8 months of development and testing, dbconfig-common is now uploaded to unstable and ready for widespread use by other packages in debian. if you've missed out on my previous discussions about what dbconfig-common can do, here's wha

Re: Free Beer: Need packaging assistance...

2005-07-12 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Jul 12, 2005 at 11:51:27AM +0200, Mikael Olenfalk wrote: > it was not my intention to state that Debian is about free beer, just > that I would need > some guidance and I am willing to pay if there is a DD in stockholm > who is interested > in giving assistance. I'd prefer a face-2-face "le

Re: dak now supports ~ in version numbers

2006-08-09 Thread sean finney
cc'ing debian-policy for their feedback... On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 12:21:10PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * martin f. krafft: > > > Thanks to the work of our DPL Anthony "aj" Towns (and all the other > > people who have worked on this without my knowledge), I am happy to > > announce that dak,

Re: Silly Packaging Problem

2006-08-10 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 11:01:30AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > No, at least not for /etc. You could install the file, the overwrite > it, but files installed to /etc by dpkg are conffiles and those must > not be touched programmatically, according to policy. i think a better solution (and one

Re: Silly Packaging Problem

2006-08-10 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Aug 10, 2006 at 06:35:03PM -0400, peek wrote: > place. It just seems a little cleaner: you could query dpkg for what > package *every* file came from -- no files left out; and you don't what about rotated log files? pid files? lock files? misc stuff in /var/cache? that's not to bash th

Re: Why no /usr/local/etc in Debian?

2006-08-15 Thread sean finney
hi david, On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 08:03:02AM -0400, David Bruce wrote: > 1. Would it be impolite for the makefile for my program to simply go ahead > and create /usr/local/etc? i don't think it would be appropriate for a debian package to ship a /usr/local/etc directory, since configuration for

Re: Surpassing Microsoft quality

2006-08-16 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Aug 16, 2006 at 04:31:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > IIRC, "security updates" do just (and *only*) that: fix *security* > bugs, not *feature* bugs. they do fix bugs caused by regressions in security updates though. sean signature.asc Description: Digital signature

mass bugfiling: dbconfig-common-using packages violating policy 7.2

2006-08-19 Thread sean finney
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> webcalendar Craig Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> jffnms Radu Spineanu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> simba Alexis Sukrieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> bugzilla Ondřej Surý <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> postfix-policyd Torsten Werner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> otrs

debconf and substitution of non-translated text

2006-08-24 Thread sean finney
hey d-d, on the heels (or perhaps in the recent footsteps) of the discussion regarding update-manager and the faults of arbitrarily substituting strings in pre-translated text... i have a package (dbconfig-common), which via debconf's register system shares a set of pre-defined templates between

transitioning config files between two packages

2006-09-12 Thread sean finney
hey d-d, in sarge, the nagios-plugins is a single monolithic package with a number of plugins and config files (mostly with a 1:1 mapping). in sid/etch, the nagios-plugins package is split into two packages, nagios-plugins-basic, nagios-plugins-standard, each of which contains a subset of the ori

Re: transitioning config files between two packages

2006-09-12 Thread sean finney
hey steve, On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 13:21 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > No, it's a general problem: dpkg won't notice that a conffile has been > > moved from one package to the other, no matter whether it declares > > "Replaces" or whatever. There's simply no solution within dpkg at the > > momen

Re: transitioning config files between two packages

2006-09-13 Thread sean finney
hey james, On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 22:27 -0400, James Vega wrote: > It should just be a matter of removing the files from the old package > and letting the new ones take their place (with a backup if there are > any user changes). A little grepping around in /var/lib/dpkg/info > turned up this snip

Re: transitioning config files between two packages

2006-09-13 Thread sean finney
hey steve, On Tue, 2006-09-12 at 17:21 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > I don't know what happens if there is a versioned Conflicts/Replaces > instead, and the conflicted-with package remains installed in a newer > version as a result. It's certainly possible that doesn't work nearly as > smoothly,

Re: how to tell people to dpkg-reconfigure exim4-_CONFIG_?

2006-10-09 Thread sean finney
hey marc, On Mon, 2006-10-09 at 09:08 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > >The ultimate solution would be it dpkg-reconfigure magically knew that when > >configuring exim4, it must actually configure exim4-config. funny, i'd have said the ultimate solution was finding a way to make the users learn about

mucking with dpkg control files in maintainer scripts?

2006-10-15 Thread sean finney
hey all, i recently saw that apache2.2-common's prerm script has the following block of text: = = = = = # YAY, MORE EVILNESS rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache2-common.postrm = = = = = and the following from the changelog: = = = = = apache2 (2.2.3-2) unstable; urgency=low * rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/

Re: RFP: tinymce -- Web based Javascript HTML WYSIWYG editor

2006-10-24 Thread sean finney
On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 22:25 +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > That would be much appreciated. The second troublemaker if adodb, > which seems embedded in several webapps as well. and is also already packaged, for clarity. however, many packages embed it *anyway*, and some have locally modifie

Re: release critical bug in apache2.2?

2006-11-02 Thread sean finney
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 19:20 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > Auto-indexes are enabled only in /var/www/apache2-default and > /usr/share/apache2/icons by default, so it is not likely to leak any > unexpected file list. > > So no, that doesn't grant an RC bug for these reasons. > > On the other hand, it

Re: release critical bug in apache2.2?

2006-11-05 Thread sean finney
On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 14:04 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > The file does not get executed as expected, but the browser wants to > > download it (which might be a security issue). > > Then it is likely that you don't have php installed. *or* that php is installed but not the modules isn't load

Re: Proposed new POSIX sh policy (was: First draft of review of policy must usage)

2006-11-06 Thread sean finney
On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 19:41 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Here's a proposed patch. What do people think about this approach? I > know there was an inconclusive Policy discussion a while back about how > best to deal with this issue. As you can tell from this patch, I favor > the approach of docum

Re: [php-maint] Re: Bug#397291: ITP: php-tidy -- tidy module for php[45]

2006-11-07 Thread sean finney
just to throw my $0.02 in, On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 13:20 +0100, Jan Wagner wrote: > Personly I did prefer to provide tidy support for php on-tree. But if > the "Debian PHP Maintainers" prefer it off-tree, I'm also fine. > > ~/debian-builds/php5-tidy/build-area$ ls -la *orig* > -rw-r--r-- 1 waja wa

Re: Bug#397646: exim4-config: reportbug mail issue

2006-11-09 Thread sean finney
hi olof, On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 13:47 +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > Hi debian devel subscribers, > > A default Etch install has Exim configured for local mail only. > So reportbug mails will end up frozen in a queue somewhere, without > any direct warning to the user. > > I think this is not

Re: Etch, apache-perl and php5 needs manual config

2006-11-30 Thread sean finney
hi patrick, On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 19:48 +0100, Patrick Frank wrote: > apache-perl 1.3.34-4 > php5 5.1.6-5 > libapache-mod-php5 5.1.6-5 > [and related packages] > > But I have to manually edit /etc/apache-perl/httpd.conf and enable > "AddType application/x-httpd-php .php" aswell > as /etc/apac

Re: Problem with debsums and linux-modules-* packages

2007-01-07 Thread sean finney
hi jacques, i'm surprised no one else has replied to this yet, so i'll throw in my $0.02 here. On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 18:12 -0600, Jacques Normand wrote: > I am not sure what to do about that. The module packages carry a md5sum > for the map and dep files which are updated by depmod so when you ru

Re: Bug#357703: udev breaks syslog

2006-03-28 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Mar 28, 2006 at 06:15:27PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Harder than it looks. There are multiple syslog daemons, how can the > package know which one is installed and needs to be restarted? are there really that many syslog daemons (my count is 5)? why not make a list, fire off invoke-rc.

Re: Bug#357703: udev breaks syslog

2006-03-31 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 09:47:59AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > What I'm suggesting is, actually, the reverse of a pidfile, in some way. > You'd still have your /var/run/syslogd.pid; but, assuming that file > contained the PID "2722" (as it currently does on my system), you'd also > have a file

Re: Policy change about `/usr/lib/cgi-bin' - Mass bug filing pending...

2006-05-03 Thread sean finney
hey alexis, On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 05:46:26PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > As you might have noticed, the last policy version (3.7.0) says that > web application packages must not put CGIs under `/usr/lib/cgi-bin' > anymore: > CGIs must be put under /usr/lib/cgi-lib now. i'd hold off on that

Re: sending debian-private postings to gmail

2006-05-25 Thread sean finney
On Wed, May 24, 2006 at 04:09:07PM -0400, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > Come to think of it, (2) isn't a bad idea. Is it feasible for this to > be done transparently? Mailing list admins, any comments? this has been discussed before a few times. iirc each time the final result was the mail admins s

RFH: problems building against libradius1-dev with libtool-aware packages?

2006-05-27 Thread sean finney
hey folks, the latest upstream version of nagios-plugins has incorporated libtool into the build process, and no longer successfully builds in a pbuilder chroot with the following error: /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link gcc -Wall -g -O2 -L. -o check_radius check_radius.o netutils.o uti

Re: RFH: problems building against libradius1-dev with libtool-aware packages?

2006-05-27 Thread sean finney
hey daniel, On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:08:36PM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote: > The real fix there, is to not install the .la file, ever. It's a world > of hurt, and gains us nothing on Debian systems. but considering the fact that i do not maintain radiusclient1, and essentially have no way to impl

Re: Documentation/example for wwwconfig-common ?

2006-06-06 Thread sean finney
hi vincent, On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 11:11:00AM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > Now, I would like to configure a "website" for my application. > This involve modifying apache conf (adding a > directive, ...). fyi, there's a mailing list for packaging web applications: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: dpkg-reconfigure and postinst

2006-07-05 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 02:35:44AM -0500, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > Is my analysis flawed? Is there a way to differentiate between a > reconfigure and a reinstall that I didn't see? Is there a cleaner > approach to this problem than dynamically generating the postinst? take a look at $1 as passed

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-05 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 04:39:12PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > dpkg-statoverride is a tool for the system administrator to specify a > different mode or ownership for a file to that which is provided in the > package. It is not meant to be used by the package. there are cases where it's approp

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-05 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 03:25:37PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 04:39:12PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > | > dpkg-statoverride is a tool for the system administrator to specify a > | > different mode or ownership for a file to that which is provided in the > | > packag

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-06 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 11:13:30AM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote: > In that case, does it make sense to prompt the admin once from the > postinst script with a message such as: > "Warning: from installed with suid bit. If > this is unacceptable at your site, use dpkg-statoverride to clear this >

rfh: nagios-plugins/radiusclient segfault on amd64

2006-07-27 Thread sean finney
hey folks, i have a bug report where the amd64 version of a libradiusclient-using program segfaults, but works fine on i386. my guess is that this is some kind of 64 vs 32-bit type casting gone wrong somewhere, and i suspect it's within the radiusclient code itself and not the plugin (i stumbled

Re: Help me test new pcmcia-cs

2005-01-10 Thread sean finney
hi per, On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 04:00:00PM +0100, Per Olofsson wrote: > I've uploaded a new version of the pcmcia-cs package to experimental, > 3.2.8-2. This package has a lot of new features, including: this package seems to work for me without any major problems (so far, anyway...), and it in f

Re: binaries for different architectures in debian packages

2005-01-11 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 10:55:21PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > Bottom line: I still think that it would be a good idea to be able to > install different architectures within debian. i believe that you can try already, with dpkg by using --force-architecture and --root=dir. this way you could

Re: Reboot in postinst

2005-01-21 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Jan 21, 2005 at 11:00:49AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:27:46 +0100, Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Relax, he did not say "rm -rf /" in postinst. > > That would be postrm. or, prerm, since it hasn't been rm'd yet. postrm would be run after, if only it sti

Re: Dependencies on kernel-image-x.y [was: NPTL support in kernel 2.4 series]

2005-01-22 Thread sean finney
to throw in my $0.02: as folks have pointed out, even declaring a dependency against the package won't guarantee your package will work anyway, why not just make it a suggests, and in your config script do something like rev=`uname -r | grep '^2.6'` if [ ! "$rev" ]; then # show debconf no

Re: unreproducable bugs

2005-07-15 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 08:11:15PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > no of course not but it would be good to have a reference > value. it seems something that would be most appropriate as a guideline supplied in the debian developers' reference. sean -- signature.asc Description: Digital s

Re: Who needs libcurl3? (was libcurl3-dev: A development package linked again gnutls needed)

2005-07-17 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 08:21:00PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > I don't see a gpl'd alternative to curl for internet streaming. I am > thinking about to build moc --without-curl then :( or you could always contact the author and inform them of their self-inflicted license violation. in my e

Re: Who needs libcurl3? (was libcurl3-dev: A development package linked again gnutls needed)

2005-07-17 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 09:04:57PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > Why not building curl --without-sssl and --with-gnutls=/usr? Maybe a > NMU? this is definitely NOT a reason to NMU libcurl. remember that it is your package that is "broken". of course you could still file a wishlist bug again

Re: Who needs libcurl3? (was libcurl3-dev: A development package linked again gnutls needed)

2005-07-18 Thread sean finney
hi, On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 11:06:13AM +0200, Torsten Landschoff wrote: > On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 03:19:54PM -0400, sean finney wrote: > > this is definitely NOT a reason to NMU libcurl. remember that it is > > your package that is "broken". of course you could still fi

Re: Who needs libcurl3? (was libcurl3-dev: A development package linked again gnutls needed)

2005-07-18 Thread sean finney
hi, On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 03:40:30PM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > On 7/18/05, sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yes, and the same with libmysqlclient, which is why there's no longer ssl > > support in the mysql packages :( > > Wouldn't it be

Re: Who needs libcurl3?

2005-07-18 Thread sean finney
hi, On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:52:32PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > In summary: > libs linked again ssl need at least two dev-packages: > libfoo-dev.deb and libfoo-ssl-dev.deb > > Right? No. as mentioned earlier, this is no fault of the library packages in question, and instead is the fau

Re: Who needs libcurl3? (was libcurl3-dev: A development package linked again gnutls needed)

2005-07-19 Thread sean finney
hi, On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 09:45:09PM +0200, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > i saw the bug report, i'm sorry to not have commented the request which > i find absolutely reasonable. i'll try to figure out if curl may suffer > from limitations due to the use of gnutls in place of openssl. i would guess

Re: Public service announcement about Policy 10.4

2005-08-03 Thread sean finney
hi, On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:49:31AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > Joey Hess wrote: > > Unless, of course, it's a shell library that would like to be reasonably > > portable without being wholey crippled by lack features that have been > > in every shell worth the name for ages. > > I know that t

Re: Asking Debconf questions about database data

2005-08-06 Thread sean finney
hi phillip, On Sat, Aug 06, 2005 at 01:08:57PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > what's the common practise if a package gets purged and depends on > user-supplied data in a database? In this case these are DNS zones (it's > about `mydns-mysql'). Currently there is a Debconf question in postrm, > which

Re: Asking Debconf questions about database data

2005-08-07 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 02:35:59PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > When one does that, people file bugs complaining that the package doesn't > remove all of the data it generates on installation. :) there's a similar problem with logfiles too, and there have been quite drawn out discussions in which

Re: mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

2005-08-08 Thread sean finney
because everyone else is doing it... On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 06:46:20PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >cacti >cacti-cactid >sugarplum all three have now been uploaded with proper dependencies. sean -- signature.asc De

Re: RFH: postfix-policyd using dbconfig-common and ucf

2005-08-17 Thread sean finney
hi ondrej, sorry for the delay, just got back from vacation :) On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 02:03:16PM +0200, Ondrej Sury wrote: > DATABASE: > It seems that I can use dbconfig-common for database changes, I have > slight idea how to implement it, but there are some questions about it: > > - can it ha

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-24 Thread sean finney
hi, On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 04:50:40PM +0200, Marc Chantreux wrote: > for example, in /etc/init.d/mysqld > > mysqld_get_param() { > /usr/sbin/mysqld --print-defaults \ > | tr " " "\n" \ > | grep -- "--$1" \ > | tail -n 1 \ >

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-24 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 05:22:32PM +0100, Andrew Porter wrote: > > /usr/sbin/mysqld --print-defaults \ > > | tr " " "\n" \ > > | grep -- "--$1" \ > > | tail -n 1 \ > > | cut -d= -f2 > > is harder to read than > > > /usr/

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-24 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Aug 24, 2005 at 11:08:41PM +0200, Mauro Calderara wrote: > Aren't the init-scripts supposed to be posix-compilant? Often when > installing dash as /bin/sh this becomes a problem because even though > dash is posix-compatible it tends to break init-scripts for me. Whether > this is dash's fa

Re: better init.d/* : who carres ?

2005-08-25 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Aug 25, 2005 at 12:44:13PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > > fluently. Are you saying that people who don't read the (IMHO rather arcane) > > sed regex syntax, "having problems" with such syntax, shouldn't touch > > I am saying

Re: a place for a package directory in root

2005-08-27 Thread sean finney
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 12:53:09PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > /run/bootchart, but there seems to be some resistance to actually trying to > standardize on /run :) what about /dev/shm? sean -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: a place for a package directory in root

2005-08-29 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Aug 28, 2005 at 09:26:16PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 12:53:09PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > >> /run/bootchart, but there seems to be some resistance to actually trying to > >> standard

Re: Unnecessary "Conflicts" with imap-server packages

2005-08-29 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 09:15:36AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > > Having a package installed doesn't mean the corresponding service is > > started. > > If I install something then I want it installed, configured and > running. but you are not all users. > I think you

Re: a desperate request for licence metadata (was Re: migrating wiki content from twiki (w.d.net) to moinmoin (w.d.org))

2005-09-06 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 10:58:59AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I might be slow, but can you explain why we need a license for this? > I do not need to license my books, but I do need to license my > software. Why should the wiki documents be treated more like software > than a book? your

Re: hotplug blacklists

2005-09-19 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Sep 19, 2005 at 09:29:13AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > What about user-installed blacklists? Will the new packages at least try to > > convert these from blacklist format to modprobe format? > No (but feel free to send code to do it). is it really that complicated? unless i'm missing

can we do uploads of arch: amd64 yet?

2005-09-23 Thread sean finney
hi, i guess i could just do it and find out, but figure asking first doesn't exactly hurt. can we build/upload amd64 binary packages to unstable yet? sean -- signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: i386-uclibc debian

2005-09-29 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 02:41:15PM -0300, Daniel Ruoso wrote: > I saw this library today... I'm not so sure if it will solve the > question, as it's still alpha... Did anybody used it in a production > environment? you're kidding me. who the hell is using 386's in a production environment?

Re: Packages that need to be rebuilt agaisnt libssl0.9.8

2005-10-06 Thread sean finney
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 08:33:19AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Christoph Martin a écrit : > >Changes: > > openssl (0.9.8-1) unstable; urgency=low > > . > > * New upstream release (closes: #311826) > > The following list of packages needs to be rebuild, otherwise some of > the binary package

Re: RFC: GTK+ icon cache

2005-10-11 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 03:51:15PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > 2. The cure > A mmap()-able cache file format was proposed, and is generated by > gtk-update-icon-cache in /usr/share/icons/$theme/icon-theme.cache files. > It helps a lot to improve speed. without saying more on this issue (i don

Re: can we do uploads of arch: amd64 yet?

2005-10-15 Thread sean finney
hi colin, following up on this: On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 07:56:28PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 02:34:52PM -0400, sean finney wrote: > > i guess i could just do it and find out, but figure asking first doesn't > > exactly hurt. can we build/upload a

Re: Managing SSL certificates

2005-10-16 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 03:59:17PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Such a tool would be very nice, and not just because of the cruft they > leave behind -- many packages currently support SSL connections; some > automatically generate a self-signed certificate upon installation, > others leave that

gpl vs openssl again

2005-10-18 Thread sean finney
hey -devel, the zombie of gpl vs. openssl has once again arisen from the grave, this time, in one of the packages that i maintain (nagios-plugins). as i'm on the upstream development team as well, i've already clarified with the other developers there that this is an omission, and that we'll eithe

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-18 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 01:12:49PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 08:59:01AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:56:57PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > > Paul TBBle Hampson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Didn't there used to

Re: [Bug#334632] Your message to Pkg-openssl-devel awaits moderator approval

2005-10-21 Thread sean finney
hi, On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 10:26:16PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > I consider this a bug; reports sent to @packages.debian.org > should go straight through to a maintainer or list of maintainers... yeah. i'd say it's bad practice to have the Maintainer field of a package not go directly to the mai

Re: [Bug#334632] Your message to Pkg-openssl-devel awaits moderator approval

2005-10-21 Thread sean finney
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 03:23:27PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > > yeah. i'd say it's bad practice to have the Maintainer > > field of a package not go directly to the maintainer(s). > > Some packages have the Maintainer: field set to a list, e.g. dpkg, apt, > tetex, probably most java packages.

Re: Bug#335185: ITP: newmat -- manipulate matrices using standard operations

2005-10-23 Thread sean finney
hi, On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 12:53:17PM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote: > So it appears that the author is happy about modifications and > redistribution, and probably has it in his own interpretation of > freeware. > > Maybe he can be talked into removing the ambiguity and formalizing it in > a clearer

Re: Bug#335185: ITP: newmat -- manipulate matrices using standard operations

2005-10-23 Thread sean finney
On Sun, Oct 23, 2005 at 03:17:37PM +0200, Willi Mann wrote: > I disagree. Where does the author say that you may modify it? I don't > think the term > > > You can use it in your commercial projects. > > can be interpreted as "you are allowed to distribute modifications". It > might be his inten

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 02:15:41PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > If a package's postrm removes the user, and the next package's postinst > just calls "adduser", then the admin have no control over the reusing. > > If you want to allow automatic user/group removal, then adduser should > be extended

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread sean finney
hey steve, On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 05:29:46AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > In the general case, I can think of two reasons to remove users (but > leave the ids reserved): namespace pollution, and user lookup performance > when using flatfile /etc/passwd. Neither of these is particularly relevan

Re: Bits from the release team: the plans for etch

2005-10-26 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 02:58:15PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > Leaving around unused accounts is plainly wrong too, and also a iyho. > potential security risk. If we're going to try to push for a broad > change in how this is handled then let's do it the *right* way by or, how about we not pu

Re: postinst scripts failing because a new conffile wasn't accepted: Is it a bug?

2005-10-31 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 06:56:44PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > the simple fact that a postinst script fails because a change has been > refused isn't - and for sure it is not a serious or grave bug, > severities often used when a postinst fails. > > Opinions? without knowing more about "package

Re: postinst scripts failing because a new conffile wasn't accepted: Is it a bug?

2005-10-31 Thread sean finney
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 07:52:27PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > You mean the postinst script should succeed even if the program is not > able to work? This doesn't fit with the meaning of "Depends", because what i meant was that if you're running some utility in the postinst that might fail for s

Re: Best practices on system users and groups

2005-11-01 Thread sean finney
hi javier, On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 10:03:01PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > I would like developers to review and provide feedback for that section, thanks for actually putting this into a document, however, i notice two problems: - the addgroup/adduser functions mask the error

Re: per-user temp directories by default?

2005-11-04 Thread sean finney
hi, On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 11:16:43PM -0500, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > Within the security team, there has recently been some talk of pushing > for per-user temp directories by default in etch. I'd like to see what > people's reaction to such a proposal would be. granted that i don't know the spe

Re: Request: Source for parts of GNU/Solaris

2005-11-08 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 03:43:36PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote: > You could send them e.g. a DMCA Takedown Notice. Especially as they > didn't listen before. Of course only if you're the author of one of the > relevant programms. you could also send their isp(s) and/or hosting provider(s) said tak

Re: [Help] How to fix a buggy prerm script in sarge? (was: Bug#338638: tetex-base: dies when /usr/local/ read-only)

2005-11-13 Thread sean finney
hi frank, On Sun, Nov 13, 2005 at 12:25:01PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > we just received a bug report that is caused by a buggy prerm script > in the package in sarge (it fails because it doesn't handle read-only > /usr/local properly). Is there any way to fix this, except documenting > it in t

Re: How to cope with patches sanely (Was: State of the project - input needed)

2008-01-25 Thread sean finney
On Friday 25 January 2008 11:08:13 am Mike Hommey wrote: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2008 at 09:55:02AM +, Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know how common it is for this additional functionality to > > be used in packages in the archive? > > I do use it for config.guess and config

Re: How to cope with patches sanely (Was: State of the project - input needed)

2008-01-25 Thread sean finney
hiya, On Friday 25 January 2008 09:50:56 am Andreas Tille wrote: > I would be absolutely unhappy about this. On one hand it is just a waste > of resources to clone upstream source on the other hand handling a set of > (documented!!) patches seems much more clearly for my taste. "inconvenient bec

Re: HighPoint- GPL Licensed Controller wants To be Include In Debian Distribution

2008-01-28 Thread sean finney
Hi May, (This should all be prefaced with the statement that i don't have a great deal of experience with kernel module packaging, someone from debian-kernel may have more insight than me) First I should say it is very thoughtful of you to contact the debian community regarding your drivers, i

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