Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 1, 2024 5:59:00 PM EDT Alec Leamas wrote: > On 01/07/2024 21:51, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > > Hi Andrey. > > Thanks for input. > > > On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 09:46:11PM +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: > >> After some thought, I tend to think that adding an epoch is the right > >> thin

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 1, 2024 10:18:07 PM UTC, Alec Leamas wrote: >On 02/07/2024 00:10, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >Hi Scott, > >> Upstream can change the versioning however they want. They are upstream. If >> they don't care to fix it, then I think we assume they are fine

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 1, 2024 6:46:06 PM EDT Alec Leamas wrote: > On 02/07/2024 00:31, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > HI again > > > On July 1, 2024 10:18:07 PM UTC, Alec Leamas wrote: > >> But here the situation is that upstream do care and wants to fix it. But > >&

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 1, 2024 7:07:16 PM EDT Alec Leamas wrote: > On 02/07/2024 00:54, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Monday, July 1, 2024 6:46:06 PM EDT Alec Leamas wrote: > >> If you switch hats for a moment: have you any advice for upstream in > >> this situation? > >

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 1, 2024 11:25:59 PM UTC, Alec Leamas wrote: >On 02/07/2024 01:19, Alec Leamas wrote: > >> Let's drop this subthread, keeping eyes on the ball: what is a sane version? > >Looking at this from another point of view: is there any situation where an >epoch is appropriate? Yes. I don't th

Re: Q: Ubuntu PPA induced version ordering mess.

2024-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On July 2, 2024 12:26:49 AM UTC, Soren Stoutner wrote: >Alec, > >On Monday, July 1, 2024 5:19:37 PM MST Alec Leamas wrote: >> For Debian users we backport opencpn which works well. However, the >> Ubuntu backport process is, well, interesting (been there, done that). >> >> The PPA represents a

Re: Removing more packages from unstable

2024-08-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 20, 2024 7:46:05 AM UTC, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: >On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 07:28:52AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: >> please allow me to open a can of worms. Package removal from unstable. >> Deciding when it is time to remove a package from unstable is difficult. >> There may be use

Re: Removing more packages from unstable

2024-08-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 20, 2024 12:16:47 PM UTC, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: >On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 12:12:33PM +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> >Removing packages that aren't formally orphaned always sounds too bold to >> >me, though it should be fine if we formalize a process

Re: Bits from DPL

2024-09-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, September 2, 2024 11:23:30 AM EDT Andreas Tille wrote: ... > While I’ve read several emails in agreement, Scott Kitterman made a > valid point[ru4]: "I don't think we need more process. We just need > someone to do the work of finding the packages and filing the bu

Re: Bits from DPL

2024-09-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 6:22:14 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote on 04/09/2024 at 06:23:50+0200: > > On Monday, September 2, 2024 11:23:30 AM EDT Andreas Tille wrote: > > ... > > > >> While I’ve read several emails in agreement, Sco

Re: Bits from DPL

2024-09-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On September 5, 2024 3:39:35 PM UTC, Andreas Tille wrote: >Hi, > >Am Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 11:29:39PM -0400 schrieb Scott Kitterman: >> On Wednesday, September 4, 2024 6:22:14 PM EDT Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: >> > >> > OoC, what is your point, especially

Bug#463597: ITP: libdb4.6-ruby -- Interface to Berkeley DB 4.6 for Ruby

2008-02-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: libdb4.6-ruby Version : 0.6.2 Upstream Author : Guy Decoux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://moulon.inra.fr/r

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
re > no false positives) reports on the 307 source packages which report a > Debian upstream version higher than Upstream version by the watch file. I disagree. You list my package: Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>    pysubnettree The reason this package is in the state it'

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday 17 February 2008 17:22, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Sunday 17 February 2008 15:41, Raphael Geissert wrote: > >> Please note that this situation often occurs when the maintainer didn't > >> make the watch file strip some +V

Re: Proposed MBF: Debian upstream version higher than watch file-reported upstream version

2008-02-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:55:26 -0600 Raphael Geissert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Sunday 17 February 2008 17:22, Raphael Geissert wrote: >>> >>> If Debian's 0.11+1-1 is upstream's 0.11 why not just strip the '+1' u

Re: Bug#466433: ITP: dkfilter -- implements domainKeys message signing and verification

2008-02-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:14:16 +0100 Yves-Alexis Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On mar, 2008-02-19 at 02:20 +0800, Thomas GOIRAND wrote: >> As Yahoo! requests DomainKeys to be implemented for sending mail to >> them, it's quite urgent that this package reaches SID asap to allow >> people to be ab

Re: Who to contact about pointless Ubuntu differences?

2008-03-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 05 March 2008 03:44, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Russ, > > On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 11:26:02PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Does anyone know the right contact point to ask Ubuntu to stop making > > pointless changes to a Debian package? See: > > > > http://patches.ubuntu.com/x/xfo

Re: Can we remove sylpheed-claws?

2008-04-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday 19 April 2008 14:46, Michael Meskes wrote: > >From what I read sylpheed-claws has been superseeded by claws-mail. In > > fact the description of the latter says: > > Claws Mail is a powerful and full-featured mail client formerly called > Sylpheed-Claws. > > So is there a need to keep t

Re: New README.source documentation for Debian packages

2008-04-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 29 April 2008 10:31, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Benjamin Seidenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.04.29.1535 +0200]: > > Full ACK. I'd also like to see one for dpatch. Possibly something > > that can just be symlinked too. > > Not sure about just symlinking. I'd rather say it shou

Re: Is Florent Bayle MIA?

2008-06-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday 28 June 2008 13:27, Artur R. Czechowski wrote: > Hello, > > It looks like Florent Bayle is MIA - last upload from him is from 2007 Jan. > He sill figures as a sole maintainer for three source packages: cd5, hugin > and libpano12. > Possibly libpano12 could be removed from Debian after t

Re: Dpkg triggers and user experience, aka "How do I disable those triggers" side effect.

2008-06-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 30 June 2008 01:42, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Charles Plessy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > >> Maybe "Processing triggers" could be replaced by a 2-3 word summary of > > >> what the trigger is really doing? > > > > > > What about "Processing delayed configuration"? > > > > Well, I was

Bug#538214: ITP: libio-compress-perl -- IO::Compress modules

2009-07-23 Thread Scott Kitterman
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Scott Kitterman * Package name: libio-compress-perl Version : 2.020 Upstream Author : Paul Marquess * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Compress/ * License : "Same terms as Perl" Programming

Re: Bug#551275: ITP: lazr.restfulclient -- client for lazr.restful-based web services

2009-10-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
.. Original Message ... On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:38:58 -0400 Jonathan Yu wrote: >Hi Sandro: > >On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 23:31, Jonathan Yu wrote: >>> Strange, I've never seen a package name with a dot in it prior to the >>> version

Re: Has Debian abandoned Python?

2009-12-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:46:48 +0100 Roland Mas wrote: > The timing of #559206 is probably just an unfortunate coincidence, but >I find it telling nevertheless. If you look, you'll find the equivalent Ubuntu upload had the same bug, so I'm not clear what it's telling you? Scott K P.S. It's bee

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday 20 July 2008 12:05, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Osamu Aoki: > > I found some of my packages are offered as a part of Ubuntu archive. > > Same here. In my case (debsecan), it's a bit irresponsible because the > package doesn't really work on Ubuntu--but it's not readily apparent to > potent

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday 20 July 2008 13:33, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 12:16 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Sunday 20 July 2008 12:05, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > * Osamu Aoki: > > > > I found some of my packages are offered as a part of Ubuntu archive. >

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:58:57 +0100 Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Why force activation in the first place? All the information needed to >"activate" a DD account already exists - our GnuPG fingerprints, our DD >email addresses and full names. If an email is received that is signed >by

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:33:17 -0700 Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 03:58:57PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: >> On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 15:36 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: >> > Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > > #include >> > > * Reinhard Tartler [Wed,

Re: Good communication with upstream is good idea

2008-07-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:01:46 -0700 Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 05:53:28PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> >That requires LP to know who is or isn't a DD. Currently it has no such >> >knowledge, and I think it would req

Bug#502264: ITP: pydkim -- Python module for DKIM signing and verification

2008-10-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: pydkim Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Greg Hewgill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://hewgill.com/pydki

Re: Why is acroread so popular?

2008-12-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:16:03 +0100 Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >For the record, I don't want Debian to be associated with Adobe >Reader, even if it's only through non-free. It's very hard to provide >any security support for Adobe software whatsoever because of their >absurd distrib

Re: Packages still depending on GTK+ 1.2

2008-12-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday 05 December 2008 13:06, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Paul Mangan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >    sylpheed-gtk1 (U) ... > > Ricardo Mones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >    sylpheed-gtk1 >  => sylpheed-claws sylpheed-gtk1 should be replaced by sylpheed. sylpheed-claws (now claws-mail) is a fork. Scott K

Bug#566724: ITP: python-ipaddr -- Python module for working with IP addresses, both IPv4 and IPv6

2010-01-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Scott Kitterman * Package name: python-ipaddr Version : 2.0.0 Upstream Author : Google * URL : http://code.google.com/p/ipaddr-py/ * License : Apache Programming Lang: Python Description : Python module for

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Roberto C. Sánchez" wrote: >On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 06:42:50PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: >> On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 11:58:26PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> > Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: >> > > I'm installing apache2 and have a web server - more or less working, >> > > I'm installing dh

Re: Let's write a system admin friendly mail server packaging system

2010-05-26 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" wrote: >Scott Kitterman kitterman.com> writes: > >> >> Additionally, Ubuntu ships a distro specific binary called dovecot-postfix >> that implements part of this >> vision already. We'd love to see it in Debian if the

Possible Mass Bug Filing: String Exceptions Removed in Python 2.6

2010-06-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
As was recently discussed on debian-python: http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2010/05/msg00111.html String exceptions are no longer supported at all in Python 2.6. Since this is the Python version planned to be the default in Squeeze, packages still using them should be fixed. String exce

Re: "Waqf" General Public License in Debian?

2010-07-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Christoph Anton Mitterer" wrote: >Hey > >Well I guess that it's much easier to judge what's evil and what's not. > >Typically all peoples that took part in the Enlightenment a scientific >development came to similar rules, which you can find things like: >- Universal Declaration of Human R

Re: "Waqf" General Public License in Debian?

2010-07-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Norbert Preining" wrote: >On Sa, 03 Jul 2010, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> No. It is ignorant anti-religious bigotry. Please take your prejudices >> elsewhere, they are quite unrelated to Debian development. > >Sorry .. please? Either stop insulting fellow p

Bug#588926: ITP: kbackup -- KDE based system backup tool

2010-07-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Scott Kitterman * Package name: kbackup Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : Martin Koller * URL : http://kde-apps.org/content/download.php?content=44998&id=1&tan=95788587 * License : GPL-2 Programming

Bug#600311: ITP: python3-ipaddr -- Python3 module for working with IP addresses, both IPv4 and IPv6

2010-10-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Scott Kitterman * Package name: python3-ipaddr Version : 2.1.5 Upstream Author : Google * URL : http://code.google.com/p/ipaddr-py/ * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang: Python 3 Description : Python3 module

Re: How to close a Ubuntu bug?

2011-02-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Erik Schanze (Debian)" wrote: >Hi, > >one of my packages (antiword) has an open bug in Ubuntu >https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/antiword/+bug/237918 >that was fixed for a while in Debian >http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=464490. > >I'd like to help them and would close i

Re: How to close a Ubuntu bug?

2011-02-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Kai Wasserbäch" wrote: >Dear Scott, >Scott Kitterman schrieb am 14.02.2011 22:46: >> "Erik Schanze (Debian)" wrote: >>> Is there any mail interface like Debian has? >> >> There is, but it still requires an account. I marked it fixed.

Bug#613999: ITP: py3dns -- DNS client module for Python3

2011-02-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Scott Kitterman * Package name: py3dns Version : 3.0.0 Upstream Author : Stuart D. Gathman * URL : http://http://sourceforge.net/projects/pydns * License : PSF Programming Lang: Python 3 Description : DNS client

Re: potential MBF: first alternate depends not available in main

2011-03-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, February 28, 2011 10:05:22 am Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > piuparts in master-slave mode currently cannot test packages which first > alternate depends is not available in main, ie the secvpn package depends > on "adduser, bc, ssh, ppp, timeout | coreutils (>= 7.5-1), sudo" and > time

Re: potential MBF: first alternate depends not available in main

2011-03-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, March 02, 2011 04:53:46 am Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > On 02/03/11 04:24, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > It seems to me not worth a mass bug filing. This doesn't seem like > > something that would affect user's systems. Is there a rationale for > > im

Re: potential MBF: first alternate depends not available in main

2011-03-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
Marvin Renich wrote: * Carsten Hey [110304 06:17]: > * Paul Wise [2011-03-04 12:54 +0800]: > > Debian Policy section 2.2.1 already covers this: > > > > ...the package must not declare a "Depends", "Recommends", or > > "Build-Depends" relationship on a non-main package. > > > > http://www.deb

Re: Disable ZeroConf: how to ?

2011-03-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 04, 2011 02:48:07 pm Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 04:09:44PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > > In ancient times debian was packaged the way that the administrator > > > only installed the daemons that he

Re: ${python:Breaks}

2011-03-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, March 10, 2011 06:15:01 am Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Piotr Ożarowski wrote: > > seriously, THERE WILL BE NO NEW PYTHON 2.X VERSION RELEASED UPSTREAM¹, > > we don't have to worry about 2.X transitions when 2.7 will become the > > only supported one. If you don't like

Bug#618302: ITP: authres -- Python module for RFC 5451 Authentication Results Header manipulation

2011-03-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Scott Kitterman * Package name: authres Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Scott Kitterman * URL : https://launchpad.net/authentication-results-python * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang: Python Description

Re: potential MBF: first alternate depends not available in main

2011-03-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Bernhard R. Link" wrote: * Goswin von Brederlow [110317 22:10]: > My metric here is clearly the functionality for the user. Being able to modify it or get help with the package (which needs people being able and willing to look at the source and fix problems) is a very important part of func

Re: potential MBF: first alternate depends not available in main

2011-03-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, March 18, 2011 10:10:49 am Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Goswin von Brederlow [110318 14:38]: > > And as long as it works I see no reason why a maintainer should not be > > allowed to put the non-free dep first in alternatives if there is a good > > reason. > > Debian makes some promises

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:22:04 +1100 Ben Finney wrote: ... >Those who don't like the very *idea* of a machine-parseable format for > .debian/copyright  apparently exist, but I don't understand their >position yet :-) I'd be one of those. Whenever you add new structural rules on a file it creates

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:44:20 +1100 Ben Finney wrote: >Scott Kitterman writes: > >> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:22:04 +1100 Ben Finney >> wrote: >> ... >> >Those who don't like the very *idea* of a machine-parseable format >> >for .debian/copyr

Re: Sources licensed under PHP License and not being PHP are not distributable

2014-06-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, June 30, 2014 14:11:33 Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from md's message of 2014-06-30 13:43:59 -0700: > > On Jun 30, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > > > Can we get an official word from the ftp-masters and have this > > > discussion in public, please? > > > > +1 > > > > I am ready to explore

Re: sysvinit is still here, and here to stay for jessie (was Re: systemd is here to stay, get over it now)

2014-07-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, July 04, 2014 17:28:05 Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, > > Adam Borowski: > > There was enough trouble when udev needed an in-lockstep upgrade with the > > kernel a few releases back. If systemd components are going to need such > > forced reboots on a repeated basis, I don't like where

Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 15:26:28 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:43:05AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > Can we have a reasonable discussion based on real arguments and not on > > personal feelings? > > I haven't read any personal feelings yet, apart from personal preferen

Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 18:12:41 Andreas Metzler wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote: > [...] > > > It seems to me 3.0 (Quilt) is still applying patches when the > > package is extracted using dpkg-source. Is there a way to avoid > > that too? That's been my majo

Re: let missing-debian-source-format lintian tag be a warning!

2014-07-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, July 15, 2014 21:04:32 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi Scott, > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2014, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > It seems to me 3.0 (Quilt) is still applying patches when the package is > > extracted using dpkg-source. Is there a way to avoid that too? Tha

Re: Bug#756082: ITP: librevenge -- base library for writing document import filters

2014-07-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, July 26, 2014 01:49:06 Mattia Rizzolo wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Mattia Rizzolo > > * Package name: librevenge > Version : 0.0.1 > Upstream Author : David Tardon (and others) > * URL : > http://sourceforge.net/p/libwpd/librevenge

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 28, 2014 12:07:58 Johannes Schauer wrote: > Hi, > > Quoting gregor herrmann (2014-07-28 11:45:14) > > > > ==> libxml-parser-perl_2.41-1.arch-all.unusedbd <== > > > sharutils=1:4.14-2 > > > > Already fixed in 2.41-2. > > thanks! > > > I assume you're planning to do a new run bef

Re: possible MBF: automatically detecting unused build dependencies

2014-07-28 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 28, 2014 08:54:29 Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Monday, July 28, 2014 12:07:58 Johannes Schauer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Quoting gregor herrmann (2014-07-28 11:45:14) > > > > > > ==> libxml-parser-perl_2.41-1.arch-all.unusedbd <== > >

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 15, 2014 10:16:01 AM EDT, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >Hello, > >while git is the most popular VCS for packaging, there's no clear rules >on what you can expect in a random git packaging repository listed >in Vcs-Git. I would like to fix this so that: >- we can extract more useful data from t

Re: Python 3.4

2014-08-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 15, 2014 1:42:04 PM EDT, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 07:28:06PM +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Does someone have any clue or hint on the upgrade of Debian to >Python3 >> natively ? >> >> Thank you, > >Hey Diogene, > >Python 3.4 is in Jessie, ready for ac

Re: Python 3.4

2014-08-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 15, 2014 4:57:19 PM EDT, Diogene Laerce wrote: > > >On 08/15/2014 10:20 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On August 15, 2014 1:42:04 PM EDT, Paul Tagliamonte > wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 07:28:06PM +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote: > >[...] > &g

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, August 15, 2014 23:04:54 brian m. carlson wrote: > On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 08:17:16PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > On Aug 15, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > - are there other important things to standardize? > > > > Do not try to make other people change their workflows without evident

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 16, 2014 8:03:18 AM EDT, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >(Please trim the quoted mail when you answer) > >On Fri, 15 Aug 2014, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> >- are there other important things to standardize? >> >> We don't even agree on if repositori

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-08-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On August 19, 2014 8:08:14 PM EDT, Jeremy Stanley wrote: >On 2014-08-20 02:32:10 +0800 (+0800), Thomas Goirand wrote: >[...] >> Good! For the moment, it has worked nicely, apart from the fact that >> *some* upstream, like Jeremy Stanley, don't like it. I honestly feel >> sorry about that, especial

Re: 2 months and no upload for pkg

2014-09-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 05, 2014 18:21:28 Daniel Pocock wrote: > On 05/09/14 17:48, Ian Jackson wrote: > > It is true that long NEW processing queues is a big problem. But it > > appears that a substantial amount of core team effort is being used to > > deal with poor submissions. If we can fix that

Re: Standardizing the layout of git packaging repositories

2014-09-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On September 6, 2014 11:30:11 PM EDT, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >On Sun, Sep 07 2014, Brian May wrote: > > >> In another email by Manoj Srivastava: >> >>> That is really a matter of displaying history. The diagram >> displays Git history, not the patches; when B21 is committed, > there >is

Re: Trimming priority:standard

2014-09-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, September 12, 2014 02:43:09 Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 12, Adam Borowski wrote: > > What would you guys say about cutting some cruft from priority:standard? > > I like your plan (even if I have some doubts about telnet). Personally, I use telnet pretty routinely. Generally when I'm

Re: New package tracker - old one going?

2014-09-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On September 16, 2014 7:44:36 AM EDT, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >Hi, > >On Tue, 16 Sep 2014, Iain R. Learmonth wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 02:54:43PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> > It will go away eventually once the new tracker has equivalent >functionality. >> >> I know it's nothing to be aba

Re: Bug#764890: ITP: dk-filter - DomainKeys for Sendmail/SMTP (RFC-4870)

2014-10-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On October 12, 2014 7:18:48 AM EDT, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >Control: reassign -1 wnpp >Control: owner -1 Carlos Gili > >On Sb, 11 oct 14, 17:46:50, Carlos Gili wrote: >> Package: dk-filter >> Priority: whishlist >> >> Section: mail >> Original-Maintainer: Mike Markley >> Description: DomainKeys

Re: Doxygen and embedded jquery problem, how to solve?

2014-10-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 15:59:44 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gianfranco Costamagna (2014-10-29 15:18:30) > > > >For the source package I believe you should either... > > [...] > > > the documentation is usually regenerated into debian, not ship with > > the source code > > Silly me

Re: Doxygen and embedded jquery problem, how to solve?

2014-10-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 17:44:11 Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Scott Kitterman (2014-10-29): > > Would another option be to use "built-using" the doxygen version in > > question. Since effectively this is embedded code from the doxygen > > package if I understa

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, November 10, 2014 04:55:20 PM David L. Craig wrote: > On 14Nov10:2154+0100, Gergely Nagy wrote: > > You do realize topic lists are public too, right? > > Yes, but most Debian users don't even know about > them nor do they need to since the traditional > lists have been doing their jobs

Re: Let's abandon debian-devel.

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 12:41:12 PM Neil McGovern wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 01:30:58PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > Andrey Rahmatullin: > > > > I know. So? If the first email of a non-DD gets delayed for a few > > > > hours, > > > > that's an acceptable price to pay IMHO. > > >

Re: Should fast-evolving packages be backports-only?

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 11, 2014 12:22:57 PM EST, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >Rebecca N. Palmer (2014-11-11): >> It has been recently stated [0-1] that backports is enabled by >> default in Jessie. > >Yes, and that's a bug. See #764982. > >> 1. Does that mean that if pkgX is in jessie-backports but not >> jessie

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 22:26:24 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > following the initial discussion we had in August > (https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/08/thrd2.html#00499), I have > written a first draft of the Debian Enhancement Proposal that I suggested. > It's now online at

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 12, 2014 7:38:25 AM CST, Matthias Urlichs wrote: >Hi, > >Simon McVittie: >> Is it the intention of this DEP to mandate the gbp-pq-like repo >> structure, which basically forbids use of tools whose design does not >> match that? Or is the intention to set some conventions that can be >

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 12, 2014 8:15:02 AM CST, Scott Kitterman wrote: >On November 12, 2014 7:38:25 AM CST, Matthias Urlichs > wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Simon McVittie: >>> Is it the intention of this DEP to mandate the gbp-pq-like repo >>> structure, which basically f

Re: RFC: DEP-14: Recommended layout for Git packaging repositories

2014-11-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, November 13, 2014 01:32:04 Sam Hartman wrote: > Hi. > I've read the original proposal and believe it is generally going in the > right direction. > > things I liked: > > * didn't pick between dgit/git-dpm/git-pq; documented the common parts > > * Seemed to really focus on one clear

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

2014-11-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 16, 2014 9:18:51 AM EST, Shachar Shemesh wrote: >On 13/11/14 18:22, Tobias Frost wrote: >> Sometimes, a joke is just inappropriate, regardless how funny it may >seem. >> Sometimes, a joke is better not made, regardless how funny it is. >> >> We have enough bad karma these days, no nee

New pre-depends: python pre-depends python-minimal

2014-11-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
It appears that the appropriate resolution of #769106 [1] is to add a new pre-depends on python-minimal in python. This issue at hand is that at the time python2.7-minimal is configured, python is unpacked, but python-minimal is not. Since python-2.7-minimal doesn't have a direct depends on p

Re: New pre-depends: python pre-depends python-minimal

2014-11-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 08:28:29 AM Julien Cristau wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 18:24:00 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > It appears that the appropriate resolution of #769106 [1] is to add a new > > pre-depends on python-minimal in python. > > > > This i

Re: New pre-depends: python pre-depends python-minimal

2014-11-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 18, 2014 6:30:02 PM EST, Jakub Wilk wrote: >* Julien Cristau , 2014-11-18, 23:50: >>>As part of python2.7-minimal's configuration, >>>/usr/share/python/runtime.d/public_modules.rtinstall gets executed. >>>It's part of the python package. Since the dependency chain was >>>texlive-mu

Re: what to do is maintainer is lacking? (was: wine-unstable in Debian)

2012-04-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 04:57:14 PM Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 04/18/2012 08:27 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > If a maintainer isn't (capable of) doing the necessary work on a > > package themselves, then after a while the best thing they can do is > > admit that and cede control to others. It'

Re: Bug#669570: ITP: reviewboard-rbtools -- Command-line tool to create/update ReviewBoard requests

2012-04-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, April 20, 2012 04:12:56 AM Dmitry Nezhevenko wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Dmitry Nezhevenko > > * Package name: reviewboard-rbtools > Version : 0.4.1 > Upstream Author : Christian Hammond, David Trowbridge > * URL : http://www.reviewb

8 bit to 7 bit conversion - was Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 01, 2012 06:55:20 PM Riku Voipio wrote: ... > Honesstly. my grievance is really just having to convert things to 7bit.. s ... In the future, you're likely to still be stuck doing this for other 'fun' reasons. The one I ran into recently was that 8 bit -> 7 bit conversions will br

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, May 02, 2012 07:23:13 PM Russell Coker wrote: > On Wed, 2 May 2012, Jon Dowland wrote: > > On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 07:05:14PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > > Having mail be silently corrupted is not acceptable. > > > > Can you expand on "silently corrupted", here? Is that when you

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
Vincent Lefevre wrote: >On 2012-05-02 15:00:36 +0200, Andrew Shadura wrote: >> Hello, >> >> On Wed, 2 May 2012 10:06:31 +0100 >> Jon Dowland wrote: >> >> > On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 08:44:12AM +0200, Andrew Shadura wrote: >> > > No it doesn't if 8BITMIME annouces are turned off! >> >> > If ex

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, May 03, 2012 02:45:06 AM Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-05-02 20:23:41 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > >On 2012-05-02 15:00:36 +0200, Andrew Shadura wrote: > > >> Hello, > > >> > > >> On Wed, 2 May

Re: Making -devel discussions more viable (was: switching from exim to postfix)

2012-05-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 04, 2012 11:17:24 PM Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > Not enough information to check signature validity. Show Details > On Jue 03 May 2012 08:23:29 Stefano Zacchiroli escribió: > [snip] > > > 3) public, but contributors-only list > > > > > > > > This has been implem

Re: Bug#675033: ITP: kgraphviewer -- KGraphViewer is a GraphViz dot graph viewer for KDE 4.

2012-05-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, May 29, 2012 02:54:40 PM w.goesgens wrote: ... > Already packaged for ubuntu by Scott Kitterman; compiles on debian wheezy. > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kgraphviewer/4:2.1.1-0ubuntu1 For the record, it is already packaged in Ubuntu, but not by me. I touched it there

Re: Orphaning php-codesniffer, then take it over by the PHP PEAR team

2012-05-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, May 31, 2012 03:16:06 PM George Danchev wrote: > On Thursday 31 May 2012 11:47:21 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > You and a lot of others fail to realize that the *SPONSOR* is > > > responsible for the package. > > > > Huh?!? > > > > What does "Maintainer:" mean if not the

Re: DUCK -the Debian Url Checker

2012-06-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, June 06, 2012 03:24:50 PM Simon Kainz wrote: > Hi list, > > as I had some problems in the past finding upstream sources and > homepages, I hacked up some scripts to monitor and display the results > of the Upstream Homepage entries in the package control files. > > Please take a loo

Re: Bug#678828: ITP: libticables -- Texas Instruments link cables library

2012-06-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:50:58 AM Albert Huang wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Albert Huang > > * Package name: libticables > Version : 1.3.3 > Upstream Author : Lionel Debroux > * URL : http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/ > * License : GPL

Untransitioned Ruby Packages

2012-07-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
It looks like there are more than a few Ruby packages that aren't update for the new packaging scheme and still expect Ruby 1.8 as the default. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=676092 is an example. If we weren't in freeze, these sorts of things would be easy enough to fix, but

Re: Untransitioned Ruby Packages

2012-07-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 09, 2012 11:16:35 PM Antonio Terceiro wrote: > Hello Scott, > > Scott Kitterman escreveu isso aí: > > It looks like there are more than a few Ruby packages that aren't update > > for the new packaging scheme and still expect Ruby 1.8 as the default. >

Re: Untransitioned Ruby Packages

2012-07-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 09, 2012 08:08:37 PM Russ Allbery wrote: > Scott Kitterman writes: > > OK. Thanks. I can file the RM bug for that one. > > > > In general though should these be forced to build with ruby 1.8 (since > > they generally have ruby1.8 in the binary nam

Re: Untransitioned Ruby Packages

2012-07-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, July 09, 2012 11:00:12 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: ... > OK. Thanks. I can file the RM bug for that one. ... For completeness, based on Russ Albrey's advice, that was a one line fix, so I'm just going to fix the FTBFS and I'll let someone who can better explain

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