Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Neil McGovern
in? > Ok, Yes, if push comes to shove, I'll be happy to stand trial for the inclusion of hot-babe in main. Now, can we stop this stupid debate about something that is clearly a non-technical issue and get on with doing what we do best? Oh wait, this is d-d, isn't it... Regards

Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:58:42PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I would strongly caution against using Sarge for a production system > until there is security team support. See this message I posted to d-u > when someone pointed out that they were running sarge on some servers: > > http:/

Re: New stable version after Sarge

2005-01-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 07:45:12PM -0500, Roberto Sanchez wrote: > >I subscribe to debian-security (+ d-s-announce) and get reports whenever > >there's anything released. > >I know what is installed on my boxes, so I know if this announcement > >affects me. > > > You are probably in the minority, t

Re: Re: Re: Re: Please remove me from the callwave list please

2005-02-07 Thread Neil McGovern
ebian.org/msg10770.html Many thanks, Neil McGovern -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? gpg key - http://www.halon.org.uk/pubkey.txt ; the.earth.li B345BDD3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Orphaning three packages

2005-02-12 Thread Neil McGovern
w upstream available, but it may be quite hard to package hawhaw-doc. If no one wants them, I'll ask for their removal. Regards, Neil McGovern -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? gpg key - http://www.halon.org.uk/pubkey.txt ; the.earth.li B345BDD3

Re: Is there Linux operating system for Nokia mobile devices?

2005-03-13 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Mar 13, 2005 at 09:19:09PM +0200, Mikko Ma Aaltonen wrote: > Hi Debian developers. (My first time post here.) > > I'm here to ask, if anyone of you know, > has someone done some development work to get a Nokia (or some other > brand) mobile to work with some other operating system than Sym

Re: Licenses for DebConf6

2005-11-14 Thread Neil McGovern
nference > > you'll get involved in the future and help to make it even better. > > I am perfectly happy with the way the conference is being run. I am > opposing those people who want the organisers to change the way it is > being run, such that DFSG-nonfree papers will be th

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 07:11:26PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Your ideas reminds me of the Mandriva Club system, where users can [Snip] Sounds like an idea that's being thrown around at the moment: http://wiki.debian.org/FriendsOfDebian :P Neil -- __ .` `. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Need for launchpad

2006-01-06 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:19:42PM -0500, Frans Jessop wrote: > Ubuntu's launchpad is amazing. Do you think it would be helpful if all > DD's worked through it on their projects? Wouldn't that keep things more > organized and efficient? Or perhaps Debian could build its own version of > launc

PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-04-30 Thread Neil McGovern
at progress has been made recently :) All the best, Neil McGovern [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2005/04/msg00103.html [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=264069 [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/08/msg01976.html [3] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 03:38:51PM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > If I understand well, those two names could be interesting: > > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > I find the first one a little bit ugly (the "webapp" word is not that > clean for a mailing list I think) and I also

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-01 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 10:01:42AM -0400, sean finney wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2005 at 01:33:08PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > Eh, because you believe a new lists.d.o list could take a bit of delay, > > an alioth list is better? > > > > Sorry, but I don't agree with the reasoning -- lis

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 10:21:30AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > >>>If interested people would think a l.d.o list > >>>is better, that could also be nice. > >> > >>Once you've got me convinced the list is a good idea, it usually doesn't > >>take too long to creat

Re: PHP/WebApp policy/mailing list

2005-05-02 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, May 02, 2005 at 11:54:07AM +0200, Alexis Sukrieh wrote: > Neil McGovern wrote: > >As per the list creation guidelines, I'll suggest the following, unless > >anyone can improve on it: > > Ok, thanks. > > I sent your report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and retitl

Re: Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 07:48:11AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Nico Golde] > > what about including the possibility of an RFS in reportbug? > > I think this would be a good idea because I often see RFS > > requests which are totally stupid. > Well, either way, I'd suggest a separate script.

Re: [Debian-uk] Sun have (probably) patented apt-get

2005-07-06 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Jul 06, 2005 at 01:17:19AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote: > Today the EU gets to vote on the same issue. They can elect to have a > thriving software industry well placed to replace the now crippled USA > as the dominant force in the software industry. They went for the former :) http://www.

Re: Bug#380328: ITP: pdfcrack -- PDF files password cracker

2006-07-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Jul 29, 2006 at 12:02:37PM +0200, Nacho Barrientos Arias wrote: > * Package name: pdfcrack > [snip] > This software uses xpdf/poppler stuff (categorized as free). > Hi there, Does this use xpdf or poppler? :) poppler is a fork of xpdf which allows dynamic linking, so is much preferr

Re: Building in chroots hides bugs?

2006-08-01 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 05:37:58PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > also sprach Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.08.01.1221 +0100]: > >> Building in chroots *hides* bugs. > > > > Uh, what? Please give an example. > > Missing Build-Confli

Re: arches and etch

2006-10-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Oct 21, 2006 at 03:54:02PM -0400, Camm Maguire wrote: > Greetings, and thank you all so much for your usual fantastic work on > Debian! > > I just wanted to make a few observations about the recent decision to > scrap m68k from etch: > [snip reasons which are complaining about other arc

Re: First draft of review of policy must usage

2006-10-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 10:31:01AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 25 octobre 2006 à 01:03 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > > Here is a first draft of changes to the policy that I think > > are required to bring ot closer in line with extant practice. I > > removed portion

Bug#291223: ITP: libphp-clam -- PHP bindings for libclamav

2005-01-19 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Package name: libphp-clam Version : 0.3.0 Upstream Author : Gareth Ardron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://freshmeat.net/projects/php-clam/ License : GPL Description : PHP bindings for libclamav A small module that

Bug#194938: ITP: drivel -- A LiveJournal client for the GNOME desktop

2003-05-27 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-05-27 Severity: wishlist * Package name: drivel Version : 0.9.1 Upstream Author : Todd Kulesza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/drivel/ * License : GPL Description : A LiveJourna

Re: Bug#194938: ITP: drivel -- A LiveJournal client for the GNOME desktop

2003-05-29 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 11:15:23AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote: > David Z Maze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a tapoté : > > > example, which has a somewhat similar package description). I think > > the service is popular enough that you don't need to explain what it > > is, in the same way that you don't need

Re: Bug#195490: ITP: raptor -- a vertical shoot'em-up similar to Raptor: Call of the Shadows

2003-05-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 11:41:43PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > * Package name: raptor > Version : 1.0.0 > Upstream Author : Jon Rafkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://raptorv2.sourceforge.net/ > * License : probably GPL, see below > Description : a ve

Re: whereis libsensors1?

2003-06-17 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 10:40:15PM +0200, Angathule wrote: > > I'm trying to install KDE on a Sid Machine, but I can't, this is what I > do: > I've got: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~] $ apt-cache show libsensors1 Package: libsensors1 Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: libs Installed

Re: Bug#198957: ITP: email -- Send email from command line, either via MTA or SMTP, with optional encryption

2003-06-30 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Jun 29, 2003 at 09:49:46PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On Friday, Jun 27, 2003, at 11:05 US/Eastern, Luca - De Whiskey's - De > Vitis wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:32:59AM +0100, Millis Miller wrote: >>> * License : Custom >> Its license is non-free, not "Custom": >>

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-03 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 12:14:49PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > software > >n : (computer science) written programs or procedures or > >rules and associated documentation pertaining to the > >operatio

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-03 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 04:16:15PM -0700, David Schleef wrote: >On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:53:55AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 02:34:56PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: >> >> | The Debian Social Contract says "Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software". >> | If there are th

Bug#200142: ITP: tkgamma -- A simple color calibration utility for XFree86-4

2003-07-05 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-05 Severity: wishlist * Package name: tkgamma Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Pixel Fairy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://pixel.fairyden.net/tkgamma/ * License : GPL Description : A simple color c

Bug#203687: ITP: hawxy -- a script that makes PHP-enabled webservers to HAWHAW proxies

2003-07-31 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-31 Severity: wishlist * Package name: hawxy Version : 1.1.0 Upstream Author : Norbert Huffschmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.hawhaw.de * License : GPL Description : a script that makes PHP-en

Bug#203686: ITP: hawhaw -- a toolkit to create universal mobile applications

2003-07-31 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-07-31 Severity: wishlist * Package name: hawhaw Version : 5.0.0 Upstream Author : Norbert Huffschmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.hawhaw.de/ * License : LGPL Description : a PHP toolkit to create

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 08:17:43PM +0200, Oliver Kurth wrote: > So letting NMs wait for months without notice makes it better? > Please explain this to me. Personally, I think that this is the major problem with the process at the moment. If it takes the applicant 2 years to get through the proces

Re: About NM and Next Release

2003-08-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 04:25:03PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:50:03AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Then he should spend the 10 minutes it takes to implement a "reject" > > button on the webpage he ca

Re: ITP: darkplaces - greatly improved engine for original quake1

2005-07-23 Thread Neil McGovern
www.example.org/ License : (GPL, LGPL, BSD, MIT/X, etc.) Description : This is the short description (Include the long description here.) ------ Regards, Neil McGovern -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top

Re: fresh blood gets congested: long way to become DD

2005-08-01 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 01:58:55PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Yaroslav Halchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050801 12:20]: > > I'm not sure if any additional AMs are necessary -- there is a > > sufficient quantity of them to cover all current DD applicants... > > We would need more good AMs, we hav

Re: mass bug filing on packages that are blocking use of cdebconf

2005-08-08 Thread Neil McGovern
lace debconf. > > Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >blootbot > Fixed. Neil -- __ .Ž `. [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' ! `. `Ž gpg: B345BDD3 `- Please don't cc, I'm subscribed to the list signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: alioth down ?

2005-08-11 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Aug 12, 2005 at 08:18:10AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Hi, > > I see that alioth/haydn is down in the IRC channel topic, > and trying to ssh to the server seems to confirm the situation. > > Is this a scheduled downtime that I missed an annoucement for or > some unexpected breakage? (

sponsors.debian.net beta

2005-08-17 Thread Neil McGovern
stylee) * Sync with mentors.debian.net for automatically detecting sources So, please pop along and register. All the best, Neil McGovern -- __ .Ž `. [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' ! `. `Ž gpg: B345BDD3 `- Please don't cc, I'm subscribed to the list

Bug#333756: ITP: roundcube -- modern, skinable webmail solution for IMAP servers

2005-10-13 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package name: roundcube Version : 0.1-20051007 Upstream Author : Thomas Bruederli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.example.or

Re: Bug#333756: ITP: roundcube -- modern, skinable webmail solution for IMAP servers

2005-10-13 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 04:46:40PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Package name: roundcube > Version : 0.1-20051007 > Upstream Author : Thomas Bruederli <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Fwd: ITP: l!m3w!r3 - a Java based gnutella servent]

2005-10-27 Thread Neil McGovern
l over limewire. The only limewire I know of is a p2p application, which doesn't have any subscriptions. If you're using this application, I suggest you stop using it. Regards, Neil McGovern -- __ .´ `. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Application Manager : :' ! | Sec

Re: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after discussion

2008-06-03 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 04:16:51PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > "Debian Desktop Edition" for most of the release cycle. > There is no Debian Desktop Edition. Perhaps you mean the Debian Desktop subproject? > This is a useful (but unintended) side-effect. The principal > goal remains that Testing s

Re: upgrading dbus or running the init script kills X

2009-07-24 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all, Just to re-iterate from a release team PoV, this could really do with fixing. (for d-d readers, this is a awesome bug, where dbus upgrades kill X) This is holding up xcb-util, which is holding up python-visual, which is preventing the removal (finally!) of GTK 1 Thanks, Neil -- hermanr

Re: upgrading dbus or running the init script kills X

2009-07-24 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 01:50:02PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > Just to re-iterate from a release team PoV, this could really do with > fixing. > (for d-d readers, this is a awesome bug, where dbus upgrades kill X) > > This is holding up xcb-util, which is holding up python-v

Re: Non-unified patches and dpkg source format ‘3.0 (quilt)’.

2009-08-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:45:14AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Giving a standard interface to reviewers is a laudable goal, but I do not see > reviewers except in elaborate scenarios about security. Therefore I will not > trade a real benefit for a hypothetical one, even if both are neglectible.

Webapps policy: final RFC

2009-08-10 Thread Neil McGovern
anual-DRAFT.sgml?view=log Comments appreciated, I'd like to get these all in and integrated by end of August, to push to the policy team for inclusion. Thanks, Neil McGovern -- automake: the emo of Debian software. "You just don't understand me." signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-01 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 04:47:54PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 15:36 +0100, Chris Jackson a écrit : > > Well, /etc needs to be on /, since otherwise you can't get to fstab to > > mount it, and generally things like /etc/hostname will be different, so, > > while

Re: transitioning from a single to split package

2009-11-02 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Nov 01, 2009 at 12:25:51PM +0100, Penny Leach wrote: > The problem we've come across is how to handle migrations. If we have a > moodle package, that depends on moodle-mysql | moodle-pgsql, then package > managers that just install the first dependency, could cause a situation, > for examp

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-11-02 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 02:48:56PM +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > Should the web configuration be enabled by default? Assume apache2, and > add configuration to /etc/apache2/conf.d/munin.conf? > Have a read of http://webapps-common.alioth.debian.org/draft/html/ch-httpd.html Neil -- aut

Re: Possible MBF wrt common, FHS-compliant, default document root for the various web servers

2009-11-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 03:23:22PM +0100, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: > Full ack, and I even like /usr/share/www. It's easy to understand and > pretty unprobable that we'd have a package called www in the archive > some day needing this location. > Sorry, I have to disagree with this approach. We woul

Bug#412427: ITP: resiprocate -- Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) stack

2007-02-25 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: resiprocate Version : 1.1rc1 Upstream Author : ReSIProcate Developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.resiprocate.org License : Vovida Software Licen

Re: Please all dependency info into your init.d script

2007-07-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jul 06, 2007 at 10:43:31PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > For this to work properly, all init.d scripts need to provide > dependency information. [snip] > Neil McGovern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >blootbot Blootbot requires a mysql database to be up and running, or it

Re: [Pkg-kde-extras] Amarok: SECURITY ISSUE in Debian Etch and Lenny

2008-08-19 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 07:31:29PM +0300, Modestas Vainius wrote: > Hi, > > pirmadienis 18 rugpjūtis 2008, thacrazze rašė: > > in the Amarok package is a security issue > > > > It is fixed in Amarok 1.4.10 > >(http://secunia.com/advisories/31418/, > > http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/1/4/10) > Th

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violatio ns are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

2008-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 09:33:49PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 08:46:18PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > > Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It seems we relied primarily on the release team, which has betrayed > > > the goals of the project, > > > >

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violatio ns are tagged ‘lenny-ignore’?

2008-10-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 04:31:00PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 08:48:50AM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > > While fixing > > these issues is and should be a goal of Debian, it's hardly something > > that can be done in the last few weeks before releasing. > > If I

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

2008-10-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 03:51:22PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:23:50PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 October 2008, you wrote: > > > But, in fact, fixes are not welcome from the team. They have raised a > > > major roadblock, allowing only one kind of fix wh

Re: Bug reports of DFSG violations are tagged ???lenny-ignore????

2008-10-23 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 07:06:14PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 05:41:05PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 03:51:22PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:23:50PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > > &

Re: Direction on foo2zjs and web fetching scripts

2008-11-03 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 11:40:22PM -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > Where do I go from here to make sure the issue gets the appropriate > level of thought and consideration that it deserves (after lenny gets > released of course)? > Dropping lots of CCs. Hi Michael, I'd suggest asking on debian-

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-15 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 08:50:46PM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb: > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:58:57AM +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > >> Why is this important mail hidden in -devel? I wouldn't have noticed it > >> if I hadn't read something about this on planet-debia

Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing

2008-12-16 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 03:07:12PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 16/12/08 at 14:21 +0100, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > I think this question is nonsense. While the bug-fix rate was more or > > less the same since the last two releases, it looks like in this release > > we actually started the fre

Re: First call for votes for the Lenny release GR

2008-12-16 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:13:41AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Adeodato Simó writes: > > > What does §4.1.7 mean, then? Can't it be read to mean that the DPL may > > appoint a new Secretary not at end of term, if there's disagreement > > between them? > > I believe this only applies in the cont

Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing

2008-12-16 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 06:07:25PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > "clear that most people don't work on RC bugs instead of working on their > packages": I don't have any data on that, it's mostly based on > perception. Let's try to gather data on something relevant: > > Number of distinct posters

Re: problems with the concept of unstable -> testing

2008-12-19 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 02:09:03PM +0100, Dionysios Kalofonos wrote: > during soft freeze any changes can be made as long as no new RC bugs get > introduced, and during hard freeze is what happens today. > Erm, doesn't this happen already? Neil -- <@nurn> Paedophile Glitter arrives in UK <@nur

Re: "Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post"

2008-12-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 03:01:04PM +0100, Peter Tuhársky wrote: > Amayita [snip] > american social identity problems. FAIL. Neil -- A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? gpg key - http://www.halon.org.uk/pubkey.txt ; the.earth.li B345BDD3 -- To UN

Re: diffstat

2008-12-26 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 12:23:03AM -0500, Asheesh Laroia wrote: > I have a feeling that the libwebkit currently in sid and lenny is pretty > broken, from the looks of this bug. > Unfortunately, we don't seem to be able to get much/any response from the maintainers. It would have been really usef

Re: gnome 1.x removal

2008-01-15 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:35:54AM -0500, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > So please, let these maintainers choose, rather than ordering them > about. It is *they* who are in a position to decide whether maintaining > gnome 1.x is worth it. Of course, it will also be up to them to do the > maintenanc

Re: rebuild test of Debian packages with GCC trunk 20100107

2010-01-15 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 02:46:25AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > doesn't matter. GCC-4.5 won't be the default for squeeze. if the GCC-4.5 > release is done before the squeeze freeze, then it will be uploaded to > unstable and enabled to build for architectures where it doesn't show > regression

Re: GPL-licensed software linked against libssl on buildds!

2010-01-19 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:59:35AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > This is a bug in the netatalk Debian packaging. You cannot assume the > package will be built in a clean chroot; among other things, the buildd > software explicitly does not guarantee that all packages will be removed. > Would it b

Re: GPL-licensed software linked against libssl on buildds!

2010-01-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 02:36:08PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Neil McGovern writes: > > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:59:35AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >> This is a bug in the netatalk Debian packaging. You cannot assume the > >> package will be built in a cl

Re: GPL-licensed software linked against libssl on buildds!

2010-01-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:32:17PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > Would it be time to start looking at LVM snapshops + sbuild perhaps? > > we already have two or three buildds doing that... The buildd team (esp. > HE) working on that and if it works out to be stable enough, we can see > if w

Re: Bug#571041: ITP: dreampie -- advanced Python shell

2010-02-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 12:48:11AM +0100, Luca Falavigna wrote: > Description : advanced Python shell > > This Python shell permits to work in a more productive way with Python > interpreter providing features not yet implemented in standard IDLE. > This short and long description need qui

Unidentified subject!

2010-08-02 Thread Neil McGovern
pkg-clamav-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Bcc: Subject: ClamAV supportability in stable releases Reply-To: Hi, The release team have been asked to remove ClamAV from testing (and hence the next stable release. See bug #587058. The issue seems to be that it's not supportable in stable due to the

courier-authlib shlibs missing

2010-08-05 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi, With regards to #554788, is there a chance that this could be fixed, or even replied to? I really would rather not remove courier from testing. Neil -- What is a sane place to look for washing machines around Manchester? enrico: the canals :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-req

Re: Bug#505111: will suggest removal from testing

2010-08-07 Thread Neil McGovern
Well, it seems that other people haven't taken an interest in the bug, and we've now frozen, again. As there isn't a resolution in sight, I'll add a hint at the end of August for the removal of the package unless there's significant progress to fixing the issue. Neil -- the hacklab room is the

Three common voting errors - how to avoid them

2010-10-05 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010 at 08:47:49PM +0100, Debian Project Secretary - Neil McGovern wrote: > In the brackets next to your preferred choice, place a 1. Place a 2 in > the brackets next to your next choice. You may rank options equally (as > long as all choices X you make are 1 or 2). Pl

Re: Three common voting errors - how to avoid them

2010-10-05 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 07:20:14PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > On 10/05/2010 02:34 PM, Neil McGovern wrote: > > >> Then mail the ballot to: gr_nonpackag...@vote.debian.org. > > > > This means it shouldn't be sent to secret...@debian.org. I'm re-attaching

Bug#223856: ITP: cslh -- a live support chat system.

2003-12-13 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Package name: cslh Version : 2.8 Upstream Author : Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.craftysyntax.com/CSLH/ License : GPL Description : A live support chat system. Crafty Syntax Live Support (cslh) is a live

Re: experimental codename

2003-12-15 Thread Neil McGovern
nce > experimental is not a full distribution -- it only contains packages and > makes only sense with a "normal, codenamed" distro (sid) installed > I like it too :) Prehaps it could be used as a codename for the new unstable when Sarge is released as stable? Regards, Neil

xf86config bug

2003-05-14 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi, I can't seem to find the package that xf86config belongs to, but the bug is as follows: xf86config writes to /etc/X11/XF86Config, rather than /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, which is the one being read. Anyone know where this bug should be reported to? Many thanks, Neil -- 16 Channels in mode 4 I d

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 10:26:38AM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Emile van Bergen wrote: > > So what do you propose then, to drop everything just because you > > cynically point out that a lot of rules are being violated today? > Society evolves and with it rules change, we need > to accept this and se

Re: Daft Internet Stuff [Re: Returning from "vacation". (MIA?)]

2003-05-18 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 18, 2003 at 03:25:42PM +0100, Matt Ryan wrote: > Neil McGovern wrote: > > These are all valid points, however, I still don't want to read HTML > > e-mail in mutt. > You are figting a losing battle. Unfortunatly, this may be so, but the latest trend I personally

Error in upgrading libgd-perl?

2003-05-22 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi all, While trying to upgrade libgd-perl I get the following error: vivacia:/home/maulkin# apt-get install libgd-perl Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are

Re: libcairo has two different versions in Lenny?

2009-03-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 12:57:25AM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote: > 920 cdrom://Lenny_DVD_1 lenny/main Packages > 900 ftp://ftp2.de.debian.org lenny/main Packages > 980 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages [...] > Can someone explain, WHY the SECURITY mirro

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 02:47:04AM +, Noah Slater wrote: > This has clear advantages for being able to post-process, check, search, and > navigate copyright information using whatever tools the community decides > would > be profitable. > I'm not quite clear as to why this is an advantage ye

Amendment: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
Hi, Thanks for bringing this GR. I'd like to propose an amendment: AMENDMENT START General Resolutions are an important framework within the Debian Project. Yet, in a project the size of Debian, the current requirements to i

Re: Sponsorship requirements and copyright files

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:45:18PM +, Noah Slater wrote: > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:42:29AM +0000, Neil McGovern wrote: > > I'm not quite clear as to why this is an advantage yet Currently, this > > seems to have been designed to provide interfaces for future tools t

Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 11:53:02PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > The first GR was passed in June 2003 and there were 804 developers. > The last GR was passed in November 2008 and there were 1018 developers. > Actually, to be fair, the first vote was 1999, with 357 developers. Neil -- < vorlon>

Re: [dissenting]: Proposal: Enhance requirements for General resolutions

2009-03-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:59:34AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > That's a fair question, but AUIU, it is not up to the proposer, having > already proposed, to decide when the vote gets called. > It's up to the proposer or any of the seconders to do so. Neil -- hermanr_: I never studied german I

Re: debian/copyright verbosity

2009-04-16 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:53:58PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > That would be premature. As I understand it, we're waiting on (and I'm > actively soliciting) input for other purposes of the information in the > ‘debian/copyright’ file; not least from the legal counsel at SPI. > I could be wrong, bu

Re: Removal of remaining packages using GTK 1.2

2009-05-28 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:12:04PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > icewm > linpopup > wmclockmon > cheops > codebreaker > gaby > dbmix > gcrontab > gbuffy > gcvs > gcx > geg > gman > gps > gqcam > gtkpool > libjsw > i2e > mah-jong > mbrowse > predict > xemacs21 > swami > xoscope > xscorch > Al

Re: New project goal: Get rid of Berkeley DB (post jessie)

2014-06-20 Thread Neil McGovern
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 12:49:52AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > So, do I understand well that it's your view that just linking with > AGPLv3 make it mandatory to re-license using AGPLv3? Is there such a > clause in the AGPLv3 license? > No, it's required to re-licence it to AGPLv3, or an AGPLv3

Re: MATE 1.8 has now fully arrived in Debian

2014-06-27 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 10:43:15AM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Sune Vuorela wrote: > > >The way is to put your time/money where your mouth is and provide the > >code. Asking others to do all the work is not the way forward in OSS. > > I highly doubt you can call _me_ someone who does not do w

Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

2014-08-08 Thread Neil McGovern
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 03:15:17PM +0400, vita...@yourcmc.ru wrote: > I'm not a Debian developer, just a Debian user, and I want to say that I was > happy to see XFCE being the default DE. Just because it's small, classic and > neutral DE - which GNOME 3 definitely isn't. I think XFCE is a better >

Re: bash exorcism experiment ('bug' 762923 & 763012)

2014-10-07 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 03:03:05PM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Yeah, but Md is an arsehole anyway and requires printf to be > a /bin/sh builtin instead of just adding /usr/bin to $PATH, > especially now that the initrd mounts /usr already anyway, > and CTTE decided to rather offend me than Md b

Re: ITP: runit-init -- a UNIX init scheme with service supervision

2014-10-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 07:56:25AM +, Gerrit Pape wrote: > This essentially is a reintroduction of the package "runit-run", which > was added to Debian end of 2002, and removed on request of the release > team end of 2010, with the package name changed. Since then, a backward > compatibility f

Re: Results for init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 02:43:13PM +, devo...@vote.debian.org wrote: > This message is an automated, unofficial publication of vote results. > Official results shall follow, sent in by the vote taker, namely > Debian Project Secretary Whelp, that wasn't meant to happen. Apologies for th

Re: Call for Votes: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 05:53:36PM +, Neil McGovern wrote: > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > 57dd4d7c-3e92-428f-8ab7-10de5172589e > [ ] Choice 1: Packages may not (in general) require a specific init system > [ ] Choice 2: Su

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:12:20PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Thu, Nov 06, 2014 at 04:10:13PM +0100, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 11:53:43PM +0000, Neil McGovern wrote: > > > - - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anyth

Re: Jessie Freeze -> What is the next release name? (jessie+1)

2014-11-10 Thread Neil McGovern
November) in proper timing. Did I miss some announcement? > > > See the debian-devel archives from mid-Fenruary 2014. According to Neil > McGovern, the code name shall be "zurg". > > >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/02/msg00905.html > > Whil

Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system coupling

2014-11-10 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:12:46PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Neil McGovern writes ("Re: REISSUED CfV: General Resolution: Init system > coupling"): > > Indeed, unfortunately so. Given the rather rushed nature though, it > > would be nice to try and work out a way o

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