Would you like inexpensive Pain Killers?
http://attn.neata.com
Penis Enlargement announcement
http://www.asdokm.com/ss/
Where do I find the time for not reading so many books?
Men will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon.
He of whom many are afraid ought to fear many.
I am responsible only to God and history.
You have to know how to
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 02:40:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:54:05 +0200, J?r?me Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>> Okay, that's what t-p-u is roughly for, but the fact is that it's
> >>> quite painful.
> >>
> >> C
u stop. Your posts
are counter-productive - your style of argumentation repels those who
may have sympathy, and inflames those who already disagree with you.
Your current activities are accomplishing nothing. There is no advantage
to be gained in "I told you so" - instead, you merely delay us from
going anywhere.
Please. No more.
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hed to the
device? If the total amount of non-free software on a user's system is
the same regardless, why are we concerned about how it's packaged?
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Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> The point is, some drivers DO require firmwares. I'd rather say: Some
>> depend on firmware. In that case, if the firmware is non-free, the
>> driver can't
Ingo Juergensmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IIRC, you're one of those Ubuntus, right? No more to be said then...
I am not an employee of Canonical, and nor have I ever been.
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Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Package name: ibm-acpi
This has been integrated into the acpi.sf.net patch, so is fairly likely
to end up in the mainstream kernel before too long.
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Ricardo Mones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * URL : http://www.softwarestudio.org/libical/
The last version of this appears to have been released in 2002. Is there
any sign of ongoing development, and is there any software that actually
uses this library?
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Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Sun, Oct 24, 2004:
>
>> This has been integrated into the acpi.sf.net patch, so is fairly likely
>> to end up in the mainstream kernel before too long.
>
> Oh never read of that,
do a bit more work on my netscript package, and get
a new version of that out the door with whereami and resolvconf support
for IPv4 and IPv6. I will try and start doing work on ipsec this
weekend, and leave the bluez issues alone.
Cheers,
Matthew Grant
On 27/10/2004, at 5:32 AM, Marius Reiner
Developers, do not allow
http://www.google.com/search?q=inurl%3Asecring.gpg
to happen to you.
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On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 10:35:53AM +0200, Arnaud Kyheng wrote:
> I love the Debian project, and I have worked on a new development for
> it: Apt-Torrent :)
>
> Apt-Torrent is an apt proxy to the Bittorrent network. For security, the
> package listing, and the .torrent files are downloaded from a
On Sat, Oct 30, 2004 at 12:00:16PM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [...]
> > If we can get individually-signed .debs, you won't even need to worry so
> > much about getting the torrent files off a trusted
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 12:15:19AM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> I am facing a problem with my ISP started filtering incoming mails with
> SPF. Since AOL adopted it, it seems becoming quite popular as I see it.
[...]
> SPF has known issue with e-mail forwarder such as pobox.com. I think
> debian.o
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 09:59:44AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Osamu Aoki
>
> | If you know easy way to avoid this problem exists, please let me know.
> | (Changing ISP is certainly an option.)
>
> Use BSTMP to gluck.
>
> (If your ISP can't be whacked into turning it off/Implementing yaho
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 12:11:07PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Matthew Palmer
> | Uhm, having just read through the supplied URL, I can't agree with the
> | sanity of the proposal.
>
> | It appears to require that headers not be modified at all in transit
> | (whic
On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 03:15:09PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 10:37:08PM +1100, Matthew Palmer said
> > On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 12:11:07PM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > > It gives you traceability and it can be used to prevent joe-jobs.
> > &g
On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 11:48:29AM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:38:20 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's a question you'll have to ask of Yahoo and the SPF people. My guess
> > is that the pushers of these schem
On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 07:27:06PM +0200, Hartmut Rummel wrote:
> This is cory yearwood from Exsis. Please can you remove the e-mail from your
> website..
And yet the name in your From: line is Hartmut Rummel, and you're using a
totally different e-mail address.
Either way, I doubt that post
On Thu, Nov 11, 2004 at 12:31:18PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
> On the topic of all those talks about reducing network traffic caused by
> apt-get update, without putting too high load into server (as rsync does).
>
> Can't CVS (or Subversion or other similar tool) solve this problem?
> S
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
I am planning to maintain this package in the meanwhile, and would love to help
out with the racoon-tool script that configures the daemon. I have an interest
in making this work for my new laptop, but IPSEC and VPNs are no longer part
of my day-to-day work, and oth
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 01:29:38PM +0100, Free Ekanayaka wrote:
> When running apt-get dist-upgrade I'd like to be able to set a list of
> packages whose confiles shall be replaced by the newer versions
> supplied by the package (if any) , while other packages' confiles
> should be keep
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 12:12:12PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Steve McIntyre]
> > So, let me get this straight - fakepop will allow people to log in
> > (using their username and password) in the clear and THEN tell them
> > that they should have used POP over SSL instead. Quite how is th
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:17:33AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 11:04 +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > So, let me get this straight - fakepop will allow people to log in
> > (using their username and password) in the clear and THEN tell them
> > that they should have used POP o
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 08:50:08PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Yes, hotbabe is sexist (at least in it's current incarnation - if it
> included a male theme then it would only be sexually offensive to
> some)
Anyone who feels that hot-babe would become less sexually offensive because
it included
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:38:54AM +0100, Cesar Martinez Izquierdo wrote:
> I can volunteer to provide some naked photos of myself, but I guess they will
> be more suitable for section "fun" than section "erotic".
There was discussion on IRC in the last few days about a "Men of Debian"
calendar.
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 03:04:15PM -0500, Charles Fry wrote:
> The poor man's daily snapshot, glastree builds live backup trees, with
> branches for each day. Users directly browse the past to recover older
> documents or retrieve lost files. Hard links serve to compress out
> unchanged files, whil
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 05:59:09PM -0500, Charles Fry wrote:
> > In what ways is this package different to, say, dirvish, which I use
> > in a manner which is, AFAICS, identical to the way this package
> > operates?
>
> glastree provides a subset of the functionality of dirvish. It is
> actually m
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 07:58:17PM -0500, Charles Fry wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 05:59:09PM -0500, Charles Fry wrote:
> > > > In what ways is this package different to, say, dirvish, which I use
> > > > in a manner which is, AFAICS, identical to the way this package
> > > > operates?
> > >
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:30:05PM -0500, Charles Fry wrote:
> > > > Is there any benefit to using glastree over dirvish or pdumpfs?
> > >
> > > The advantage of using glastree over pdumpfs is that it is implemented
> > > in Perl rather than Ruby (this is in fact the reason that I encountered
>
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 04:10:01AM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> Scripsit Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Meanwhile, what's
> > the total installed space for glastree if you're not a Perl lover?
>
> Perl-base is 'Proirity: required'
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 07:02:38PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:00:22 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >3314kB, including pdumpfs itself. I'll donate a 32MB USB key to store it
> >all on for anyone that is *truly* that star
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 07:17:45PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
> Matthew Palmer wrote:
>
> >>The advantage of using glastree over pdumpfs is that it is implemented
> >>in Perl rather than Ruby (this is in fact the reason that I encountered
> >>it in the fir
putting it another way: failing to include this piece of code does
Debian no demonstrable harm. Including it does. I know we have something
of a reputation for preferring philosophical masturbation to actually
doing the useful thing, but that shouldn't result in a several hundred
post flamewar. What are you all, stupid or something?
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On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:28:51PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
> > "Manoj" == Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Manoj>Well, remember to exclude the Linux kernel, then. It
> Manoj> is certainly not minor friendly.
>
> How many children look at the Linux kernel source cod
On Sun, Dec 05, 2004 at 09:53:00PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > Also, to the best my knowledge the kernel doesn't contain any pictures
> > > of naked people either. I might be mistaken.
> >
>
a strong argument for
maintainers actually being allowed to spell their name properly, even if
pragmatism suggests that we want a latinised version available as well.
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On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 04:13:08PM +0100, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> On 06/12/2004 Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Publishing houses never let writers edit their own work -- at least until
> > they're famous and have mindless followers who'll buy and read any formulaic
> > tripe they slap together. I don't t
ar=
> e=20
> used.
The libc manual is out of date. We've been using more than 16 bits for a
while.
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easier to maintain in the future ).
> > * (Closes: 273895, 217516, 220407, 252897, 159110, 170548, 203843)
> > (Closes: 238981, 264436, 159410, 137751, 213624)
> >
> > -- Matthew Danish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mon, 15 Nov 2004 02:14:10 -0500
> >
> &g
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: vbetool
Version : 0.1
Upstream Author : Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~mjg59/laptops/
* License : GPL
Description : run real-mode video BIOS code to alter ha
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 02:33:30PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Why don't standard ABIs suffice?
Not that I'm necessarily arguing in favour of a set of common packages, but
defining an ABI is not a sufficient condition to ensure compatibility.
Consider a function int s(int, int) -- you can have tw
On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 01:20:32PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Dec 09, Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The whole system has to be DFSG-free. Debian won't compromise on that.
> Which DFSG? The original one or the "clarified" one?
Give it up, Marco. Your little tantrums aren't cute.
rely happy to describe this
distinction as arbitrary.
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Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
This would make more sense if I sent it to the right list, really. Sorry
about that.
> Brian Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> You are the only person I've seen express views similar to mine on
>> debian-legal
lone blobs just have to follow DFSG if they want to be in main
> and some of the BSD licensed blobs can be once they stop linking into
> the kernel. Blame it on the viral nature of the GPL.
Yes. That's an entirely separate issue. The definition of a DFSG blob is
difficult, though.
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Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> The dependency still exists - it just isn't expressed within the terms
>> of our package management system. I am entirely happy to describe this
>> distinction as
rmissions.
Indeed. If I want to flash various bits of hardware I have, I need to
reverse engineer the flash method first. This isn't necessary if I have
a driver that uploads an image on every boot. If the firmware isn't in
flash, I'm completely screwed.
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t attacking a different problem (unchangeable
> burned-in software).
Burned-in software is, in general, non-free software. It would be as
easy for us to write a free alternative as it would be to write a free
version of firmware loaded from disk. Why do you believe this goal to be
less important?
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Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> This argument suggests that we can shift drivers from contrib to main
>> simply by turning them into kernel patches and getting them included in
>> the stock kern
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le samedi 11 d=E9cembre 2004 =E0 21:47 +, Matthew Garrett a =E9crit :
>> We put it in contrib
>> so that people know that by using this software, they will also have to
>> use non-free code. This is less obvious for d
their drivers, so that users are warned away from them.
How does moving firmware from the disk to the hardware (therefore making
it harder to modify and more expensive) further the cause of free
software?
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t of drivers - the ipw2100 requires
different firmware for Linux and Windows.
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On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 06:06:59PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Dan Jacobson said:
> > Off line with just the Packages file, you can't tell a dusty 1997
> > package from an up to the minute state of the art package.
>
> You have the changelogs. Use them.
You must hav
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 11:39:30PM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 04:43:48PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> [..]
> > There are a number of reasons that a device's firmware won't generally
> > be opened to us:
> >
> > 1. The manufacturer's concerns regarding the proprietary n
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 02:30:51PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Op za, 11-12-2004 te 20:12 -0500, schreef Glenn Maynard:
> > On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 04:43:48PM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > > What about the rest of the driver? I think that if you remove the BLOB,
> > > it's Free Software. It t
ly with the DFSG.
While I tend to agree, this has the unfortunate side-effect of removing
any form of support for Nvidia graphics cards.
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> It makes it covered by the hardware manufacturers warentee. If it is
> faulty, you can return it for repair or refund.
Under UK law, I have the same rights with faulty software. Do other
jurisdictions actually treat software and hardware differently in this
respect?
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open the firmware in its entirity. One
of these choices does nothing to advance freedom. The other does. If
anything, we should be happy that manufacturers /are/ starting to move
away from flash - it makes it clearer that there's a freedom issue that
we're not at liberty to ignore.
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Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>Non-free code in flash is no more or less a problem than non-free code on
>>disk.
>>
>>
> Except that we have to distribute it. If the manufacturer is so
> concerned about their code th
this sort of thing.
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on-free code that
exists on the filesystem but is executed on that device? How is the
cause of free software advanced? How is the experience of our users
improved?
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Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why should elf-aggregation always mean to be part of a derived code, and
> fs-level aggregation mean that not? Even e.g. Linus writes that there
> _are_ examples where elf-aggregation does not mean a derived work (well,
> of course: the default assumptat
ia humour.
Given all that he's done for Debian at various points, suggesting that
he shouldn't be here is really going too far.
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On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 09:53:51AM +0100, Peter Van Eynde wrote:
> I'm stunned. So anything in a Debian package is software. With alien I can
> convert a tar.gz into a debian package, so all tar files are software. With
> tar I can create a tar.gz from any file, so all electronic data is software
Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 02:37:45AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> Glenn Maynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > No, there's a very concrete reason: given an installation of Debian
>> > main, the dri
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 10:45:07AM +0100, Peter Van Eynde wrote:
> Matthew Palmer wrote:
> >>Should I go on?
> >
> >
> >No, I think you've adequately demonstrated that you don't have the foggiest
> >idea what you're talking about.
>
>
So far, this is all a repeat. It wasn't convincing any of
> the last couple times, so it won't be this time.
Note that the social contract says "requires", not "depends". I'm
inclined to believe that policy is in the wrong here.
(This does not mean that I believ
u can find me a piece of hardware that can be driven by the
kernel's orinoco driver and which contains no non-free executable code,
I will agree that the driver does not require the use of non-free
executable code. But not until then.
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use of volunteers, accusations of
conspiracies and generally nasty attitude is a good combination of
tactics to ensure that your questions are never answered, no matter how
good they are.
If you have any desire to help Debian, then lose the attitude. If you
don't, then please stop wasting
he biggest blocker after these things is
probably a general failure to actually care all that much. How many
people are actually behaving as if a release is just around the corner?
How can we fix this?
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on the correct side of it. As a
project, Debian owes you nothing. If you're not going to make a
sufficiently useful contribution to outweigh your character flaws, then
it's better for you to make no contribution whatsoever.
Unless you're a FPAV fan, please don't Cc: me.
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Releasing every 6
months wouldn't be a problem if we could support the previous two
releases as well. That's probably excessive, but the optimal release
length depends on how much support we can provide.
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On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 04:46:51PM +, Stephen Quinney wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 06:17:50PM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > ti, 2005-02-01 kello 15:25 +, Stephen Quinney kirjoitti:
> > > This is the 3.4 series of RT, it can be installed alongside the 3.0
> > > and 3.2 series withou
On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 06:27:30PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Lars Wirzenius:
>
> > ti, 2005-02-01 kello 15:25 +, Stephen Quinney kirjoitti:
> >> This is the 3.4 series of RT, it can be installed alongside the 3.0
> >> and 3.2 series without any problems. This release is a big
> >> im
t; vast majority of the stuff that runs in Wine is non-free--but not all, so
> Wine goes in main. The relative quantities aren't relevant.
Even then, the freeness of material outside Debian is generally ignored.
We have multiple clients that only work with non-free servers.
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On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 02:38:10PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Matthew Palmer:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 06:27:30PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> * Lars Wirzenius:
> >>
> >> > ti, 2005-02-01 kello 15:25 +, Stephen Quinney kirjoitti:
>
On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 07:04:40PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote:
> On 02-Feb-05, 18:31 (CST), Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > So archive bloat is not a problem for you, and "apt-get dist-upgrade" not
> > actually providing upgrades to
On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:04:33AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Matthew Palmer:
>
> >> As a user, I think this is very convenient. The ability to switch
> >> back to a known-to-work version by tweaking a few configuration files
> >> is reassuring, even
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 09:28:19AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 10:58:55PM +0300, Sergei I. Kononov wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 03 at 20:23:20 (+0100), Christoph Berg wrote:
> >
> > > What's the difference to makejail and debootstrap?
> >
> > 1. Created chroot enviroment us
nd up as eth2 anyway.
It makes more sense to either bind configuration to specific cards
(using the mac address, for instance), or different classes of card.
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Oliver Kurth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-02-07 at 18:45 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>> Oliver Kurth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Naming wired network eth%d and wireless wlan%d would make things a lot
>> > easier. For example, it is easi
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:19:12AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Feb 15, Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I suppose I will start filing minor bugs against packages that do
> > this. I'd like to hear other people's opinions, though. (It occurs
> > to me that help output to stderr
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 03:06:19PM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:38:08AM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > Francesco P. Lovergine writes:
> > > It depends on programs, sometimes the same usage function is used for
> > > either --help or invalid options.
> >
> > Sure
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 04:26:12PM +0200, Marcus Sundman wrote:
> On Thursday 17 February 2005 21:32, Michael Koch wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 03:09:41PM +0200, Marcus Sundman wrote:
> > > On Thursday 17 February 2005 13:18, Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 06:
On Sun, Feb 20, 2005 at 10:57:47PM +, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> Clint Byrum spamaps.org> writes:
> > Now, can someone please tell me how messages like the one below, and
> > others, aren't indicative that debian should drop s390, mipsel, and
> > maybe hppa from the list of architectures? How
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 03:15:58AM +, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> undisputed: essentially all users are on i386 clearly dominating all other
> arches, with a fraction of users in maybe two, three, four other arches ---
> and comparitively nobody in the other fringe arches we keep around for n
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 04:39:22AM +, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> Matthew Palmer debian.org> writes:
> > On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 03:15:58AM +, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> > > undisputed: essentially all users are on i386 clearly dominating all
> > > other
&g
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 10:42:15AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> >Dirk Eddelbuettel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> - scarce resource such as release managers, ftp admins, ...
> >> if we have to look after arches that are *not really used*.
> >
> >All of whom have sai
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Er, hardly. libdpkg will contain *extremely* low-level stuff.
> Reading/writing debs(ar/tar/gzip/bzip/checksum stuff). It won't contain
> higher-level anything.
The active development seems to disagree with you...
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On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 09:07:16PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2005-03-06 at 01:59 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le dimanche 06 mars 2005 ? 01:17 +0900, Nobuhiro Iwamatsu a ?crit :
> > > TinyWM is a ridiculously tiny window manager implemented in nearly as
> > > few lines of C as pos
On Sat, Mar 05, 2005 at 10:38:49PM -0600, Nick Welch wrote:
> (not sure if i can post to this list, but what the hey)
>
> > That's not a free license. In fact, it's about as non-free as you can
> > get, since it's essentially "all rights reserved"; there's no
> > permission to modify or redistribu
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 07:59:11AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > That licence does not grant any permission to modify,
> > redistribute, or otherwise deal in the work in a Free manner. For it to be
> > judged as satisfying the Open Source Definition
[no cc thanks]
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 12:16:03AM -0600, Nick Welch wrote:
> > Thanks for pointing this out. Now we have a concrete example of just
> > how screwed up OSI is. That licence does not grant any permission to
> > modify, redistribute, or otherwise deal in the work in a Free manner.
>
On Sun, Mar 06, 2005 at 02:38:35AM -0600, Nick Welch wrote:
> > This is why random Joe off the street should not be writing licences.
>
> >From what I can gather, the license was developed through discussion on
> OSI's mailing list, and in the end it was OSI who approved it. Quite
> different fro
g ext2/3, that isn't a problem.
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Package: wnpp,phpwiki
Version: 1.3.7-3
Severity: wishlist
I no longer use PHPWiki myself, and don't have time to do the necessary work
to keep PHPWiki as sharp as it needs to be. Personally, I don't think it's
suitable for release as-is, so anyone who wants to see PHPWiki in Sarge
should probably
[Probably going a bit off track for -release; MFT to -devel]
On Fri, Mar 11, 2005 at 07:14:35PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> The queue ordering is entirely automatic, and AIUI the queue(s) is (are)
> sorted by:
>
> - target suite
> - package priority
> - package section
> - package
On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:12:12PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2005 at 03:01:28PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > Remember that the buildd queue is not FIFO at all. The queue has a
> > > completly static order. Any c
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