Re: an idea for next generation APT archive caching

2004-10-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
not understand http proxies (this is not a strong argument, I know). manoj -- I always had a repulsive need to be something more than human. David Bowie Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Ubuntu discussion at planet.debian.org

2004-10-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:54:05 +0200, Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Okay, that's what t-p-u is roughly for, but the fact is that it's >>> quite painful. >> >> Could you elaborate

Re: Security updates for sarge?

2004-10-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
tor, booing and hissing at the people who have stood up to be counted. > So, if my help is wanted with one of the first three of those, I > will gladly file a NM application immediately. Please do. We need more workers, and less lawyers. manoj -- Zeus gave Leda the bird. Ma

Re: Ubuntu discussion at planet.debian.org

2004-10-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 09:46:32 +1000, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 02:40:24PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 11:54:05 +0200, J?r?me Marant >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL

Re: Security updates for sarge?

2004-10-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 22:40:58 +0200, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Again, are you volunteering to go out and learn how to do it? Or >> is this yet another time wasting rant? >> >>> Heck, If I were a DD, I would

Re: Ubuntu discussion at planet.debian.org

2004-10-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 11:27:41 +0900, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 12:14:45PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 14:23:48 +0900, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >> >> > And why not, instead o

Re: Security updates for sarge?

2004-10-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:30:37 +0200, Sven Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava [u] wrote on 23/10/2004 21:43: >>> I must admit I thought something similar: Why the hell are there >>> only two people who know how to do it, when two people doesn't &

Re: Reproducible, precompiled .o files: what say policy+gpl?

2004-10-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ey from Debian does not mean I am willing to sell out to non-free software. There _is_ a principle involved here, you know. manoj -- Houston, Tranquillity Base here. The Eagle has landed. Neil Armstrong Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Ubuntu discussion at planet.debian.org

2004-10-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 14:52:17 +0900, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:11:51AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > [...] >> If unstable is not a distribution, what the hell is the point of >> having all the paraphernalia of unstable around

Re: software updates file in /usr -- policy bug?

2004-10-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hough other tools are used from time to > time (e.g. ln(1)), but only during installation or removal of the > owner package. Again, what's the policy bug? manoj -- Zeus gave Leda the bird. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Comparing FHS 2.3 and 2.1

2004-10-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
nor things to tweak (/media, /srv, and the XF86Config stuff, and then we should be OK to move to FHS 2.3 in Etch. Unless, of course, there are things I missed. manoj -- A gen'ral sets his army in array In vain, unless he fight and win the day. -- Denham Manoj Srivastava

Re: Drop testing

2004-10-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
#x27;s tolerable if it > continues to have the same old ones. I vehemently disagree. We are not people who have found common cause to only slowly deteriorate towards mediocrity; we are folks who are trying to put together the best possible distribution of Linux. If people want a

Re: Comparing FHS 2.3 and 2.1

2004-10-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
nd policy would then enshrine the current practice, and it would be even harder to change things. So, if you have patches ready, I suggest you get moving on having them implemented, and not wait for policy to have to outlaw your patch set. manoj -- Four thousand different

Re: Documentation on handling of orig.tar.gz files for Developer's Reference or for Debian Policy

2004-11-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ME file in the debian diff is eminently satisfactory, in my opinion, and it has the least element of surprise, in that we did not add anything to a file meant to carry sources from the upstream author. manoj -- Well, the handwriting is on the floor. Joe E. Lewis Manoj Srivastava <

Re: Documentation on handling of orig.tar.gz files for Developer's Reference or for Debian Policy

2004-11-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:39:44 -0800, Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 10:22:12AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 10:58:55 +0100, Frank Küster >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > , >> >>

Re: Documentation on handling of orig.tar.gz files for Developer's Reference or for Debian Policy

2004-11-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ould do it without munging the upstream source file any further. Yes, people downloading source packages from Debian should not be in the dark, but we should not be adding material to the upstream source tarball willy nilly. manoj -- All of life is a blur of Republicans and meat! Manoj

Re: Documentation on handling of orig.tar.gz files for Developer's Reference or for Debian Policy

2004-11-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:45:36 -0800, Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 01:47:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 10:39:44 -0800, Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >> > I'm not at all sure how

Re: Documentation on handling of orig.tar.gz files for Developer's Reference or for Debian Policy

2004-11-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 14:04:44 -0800, Chris Waters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, Nov 01, 2004 at 01:47:02PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> How about this rule of thumb: If you get stuff from the primary NON >> DEBIAN distribution site, that is what you call upst

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
st a targeted policy) is to get SELinux in the default kernels, disabled by default at boot time. manoj -- Harp not on that string. William Shakespeare, "Henry VI" Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
M. Now, I am not proposing we enable SELinux with a tergeted policy (which would incur the 5-7% hit) -- I am merely asking the SELinux option be compiled in for Sarge. manoj -- GOOD-NIGHT, everybody ... Now I have to go administer FIRST-AID to my pet LEISURE SUIT!! Manoj Srivastava

Re: Alioth Project Denied

2004-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
th developers. Did you try and help the guys puting alioth together with their email dialogue? Did you even try to help improve the system instead of jumping on them and trashing their effort from the get-go? Pot. Kettle. Black. manoj -- Serocki's Stricture: Marriage is al

Compiling in SELinux in the default kernels

2004-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM_VALUE=0 CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_DISABLE=y CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_DEVELOP=y # CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_MLS is not set -- Trying to break out of the Tempter's control, one's mind writhes to and fro, like a fish pulled from its watery home onto dry ground. 34 Manoj Srivastava <[EM

Re: Compiling in SELinux in the default kernels

2004-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:02:04 +0100, Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi! Manoj Srivastava [2004-11-05 1:39 -0600]: >> I would once again like to bring up the possibility of compiling in >> support for SELinux in 2.6.9+ kernels, but leaving them disabled by &g

Re: spamassassin3 - is memory usage ok now?

2004-11-12 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Well, it hadn't dropped any of mya mail for days, and indeed, the load average on my remote mail box is 0.08 right now, not 39.99 that it used to be at. I use -m 2 and nice level 15. manoj -- Fill what's empty, empty what's full, scratch where it itches. Alice Roosev

Re: Intent to mass-file bugs: FDL/incorrect copyright files

2004-11-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
) by a human, with all facts checked first. manoj -- Once the toothpaste is out of the tube, it's hard to get it back in. H.R. Haldeman Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Intent to mass-file bugs: FDL/incorrect copyright files

2004-11-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ing on an official Debian CD. manoj -- FOOLED you! Absorb EGO SHATTERING impulse rays, polyester poltroon!! Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Intent to mass-file bugs: FDL/incorrect copyright files

2004-11-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
in't hardware. And, between software, hardware, and wetware, stuff shipped in Debian is software. manoj -- The memory management on the PowerPC can be used to frighten small children. Linus Torvalds Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Intent to mass-file bugs: FDL/incorrect copyright files

2004-11-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
be qualified >>> to be in the Debian distribution. >> >> And documentation is not software. > Have you heard of the Lisp HTML program? Which is it, documentation > or software? Both. manoj -- Alcohol, hashish, prussic acid, strychnine are weak dilutions. The surest poison is time. -- Emerson, "Society and Solitude" Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Intent to mass-file bugs: FDL/incorrect copyright files

2004-11-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
o see every problem as a nail. Maslow Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Intent to mass-file bugs: FDL/incorrect copyright files

2004-11-17 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 02:05:45 +0100, Marco d'Itri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Nov 18, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Since the "editorial changes" (LOL) general resolution, for >> > Debian everything is software. Welcome to th

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
al. manoj -- He who laughs has not yet heard the bad news. Bertolt Brecht Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
There is an order of things in this universe. Apollo, "Who Mourns for Adonais?" stardate 3468.1 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
in Debian are technically illegal in Mobile. There are a number of locations where gambling is illegal, as are all games of chance. Hmm. Do I see us ripping out the poker games from Debian? How about all them shoot 'em up violent games that lead oiur youth to m

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
manoj -- If food be the music of love, eat up, eat up. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
, rogue -- all may fall under violent video games. Not to mention sex.1 in emacs ;-) manoj -- "No, no, I don't mind being called the smartest man in the world. I just wish it wasn't this one." -- Adrian Veidt/Ozymandias, WATCHMEN Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
becomes real till it is experienced -- even a proverb is no proverb to you till your life has illustrated it. -- John Keats Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
scussion. >> >> However, I'd be *highly* agitated if someone gave my daughter a >> CD-ROM with *any* nudy cartoons. > Then you'd better not bring your daughter to Europe. I am sure she > would see much more explicit drawings and photos in the > advertisement

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hamburgers. -- Ed Sanders Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ct basic democratic values? Please demonstrate how vi respects basic democratic values. >> 5. does it respect other people's belief and personallity? vi does not respect my belief or personality. manoj -- Lack of skill dictates economy of style. Joey Ramone Ma

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
han some tame cartoons in hot-babe? weird. manoj -- A hundred years from now it is very likely that [of Twain's works] "The Jumping Frog" alone will be remembered. -- Harry Thurston Peck, Jan 1901. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esri

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
s, "not > in main, not on Disk 1". When you say not in main, it means not in debian. > Let them do "# apt-get install hot-babe bible-kjv" and all will be > well. I am not sure we should cater to the repression of freedoms in parochial laws, cause well

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ribute to free software. manoj -- As well look for a needle in a bottle of hay. Miguel de Cervantes Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
bution. > It's funny and all, but it sets a bad precedent and will scare the > straights. I don't think vi belongs in debian either, but hey, opinions are like ..., everyone has one. manoj -- Today's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. Hunter S.

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
seful or not... Yeah, should have nipped the whole vi clone family in the bud. manoj happy to demonstrate that preferences are a bad way to form an inclusion policy -- It's not whether you win or lose but how you played the game. Grantland Rice Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
; It has to do with intent. The intent here is clear. Egad, you're a mind reader, then? manoj -- May a hundred thousand midgets invade your home singing cheesy lounge-lizard versions of songs from The Wizard of Oz. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
political > political ambitions. Same goes for gampling software, and violent games. Or, in some locales, anything that promotes free speech or religion. manoj -- I hope you're not pretending to be evil while secretly being good. That would be dishonest. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
d Erotic > pics... I would not like to be in the position of panderingf to such insanity. Hmm, if we flood iran with enough pr0n, perhaps they'll all kill each other off, and we can inject some sanity into the country. manoj -- Your boss climbed the corporate ladder

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
r "hot-babe" in > the Debian main stream. > I do not like to go to prison in Iran or may be killed because I > have such application on one of my Desktops. The solution is to change iran, not try to change the rest of the world to bve implicit in the oppression.

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ship some porn for the sake of it. Call it test data for > pornview or something. Hmm. I would like some Raphael budes, yes. and some studies by michelangelo too. Oh, you think that is not porn? manoj -- If at first you don't succeed that is only to be expected--there is

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
s other things, depending on your jurisdiction -- games of chance, the bible, games promoting violence, texts promoting freedom .. Descending to the lowest common denominator shall leave you with the husk of an operating system. manoj -- Liberty don't work as good in practice

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
f people are offended by all kinds of things, and Debian policy has een not to sit in judgement on content. manoj -- If you analyse anything, you destroy it. Arthur Miller Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ozilla since it has the picture of a head mebedded in it, give the stupid local laws a rest. manoj -- If it ought to be done, then do it; apply yourself to it strenuously. A lax man of religion just spreads even more dust. 313 Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://ww

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:38:19 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> There are a number of locations where gambling is illegal, as are >> all games of chance. > That's "gambling" as in &q

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:35, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Right. We should not have games like quake, doom, or >> nethack,. since they promoite murder and mayhem and eating of >> corpses. &g

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:41:30 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:42, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:01:08 -0600, Joe Wreschnig >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
> We are not talking about something subjectively offensive but a real > legal problem. As am I -- lots of legal problems in lots of domains. manoj -- Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. Gandhi Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
nd b) it is DFSG free c) a DD puts in the time and effort to package is, and maintain it It gets into debian. Simple, non controversial. Relies of the judgement of developers, yes. But so does the rest of Debian. manoj -- If you stick your head in the sand, one thing is for sur

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:34:06 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 05:53:08PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:32:18 +, Will Newton >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: And we have no time to set up i >> jud

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
should stop being the morL guardians of the free world, and let licenses, and what is legal to distribute, govern what goes in Debian. manoj -- In the future, you're going to get computers as prizes in breakfast cereals. You'll throw them out because your house will be littered

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 21:57:20 -0500, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wednesday 01 December 2004 06:55 pm, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > But by this logic, Debian should include every bit of software it >> > can -- if those countries with pesky

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 18:23:21 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:55, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 16:41:30 -0600, Joe Wreschnig >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:42, Ma

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:43:56 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 22:44, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> These nebulous authorities also frown upon various other things, >> depending on your jurisdiction -- games of chance, the bible, games

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e with crap is a different thing > altogether... Yup. need to get rid of vi. manoj -- A woman was in love with fourteen soldiers. It was clearly platoonic. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
r objection this package in any > matter. I'd just hope that the maintainer proposing it realizes > that, though he personnally doesn't think so, his work may hurt some > people. That would solve matters, yes. manoj -- Just when you thought you were winn

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hat, and the fact that I am signing up to fix bugs, etc, is an indication that I think there is value added by that package. manoj -- Q: What do Winnie the Pooh and John the Baptist have in common? A: The same middle name. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:44:22 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 01:30 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:34:06 -0600, John Goerzen >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 a

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
you see someone asking for inclusion of child porn ? > John was taking Manoj's reasoning to the limit. Yup. Arguing by the extremes, while intriguing to some, is extremely jejune. manoj -- "I HATE arbitrary limits, especially when they're small."

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
judea-christian-islamic bent of mind. I strongly recommend growing a thicker skin. manoj -- Counting in binary is just like counting in decimal -- if you are all thumbs. Glaser and Way Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 02:35:39 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:23 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 02:08:59 -0600, Joe Wreschnig >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > However, pornography c

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:54:06 -0200, Fernanda Giroleti Weiden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Em Qui, 2004-12-02 às 05:45, Manoj Srivastava escreveu: >> >> First of all, it's a sexist package, sure. Putting a program on >> >> Debian in which you have pictures of

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 23:38:29 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 04:19:48PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:06:18 +1100, Hamish Moffatt >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 a

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
xism. > I think you described the important issues quite well. Making a good > distribution is more than just "upload any package which you legally > could". There is no argument against excellence in packaging, and maintenance. Who decides which one of the CPU m

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:28:23 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:30:48AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:34:06 -0600, John Goerzen >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004 a

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:31:43 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 01:32:26AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 19:03:59 -0600, John Goerzen >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > You are quite right.

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ese three out of a list. I am not so sanguine as to assume that my choices would be enough for everyone else, and try and impose my selection on others. At least one user has expressed interest in the package on this very list. manoj -- Well begun is half done. Aristotle Manoj Srivast

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 08:38:10 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 03:05:53AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > But the nudy cartoons would, especially in the hand of a minor. >> >> As far as I know, we are not selling to min

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
roats. (Indeed, if our users want to see porn, should we not be facilitating this use of the machine?) > "It is also the type of discussion that deterred me from becoming > involved in Debian for some time." In that case, I am glad this has come up early enough so people

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ndeed, and this is also why Manoj's vi/KDE argument is not > relevant. > vi serves a useful purpose for an operating system. > Porn/nudes/whatever don't. A CPU monitor does. How the load is displayed, line graph, dancing bars, color changes, morphing pictures, is a pre

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
n -- and freedom to use software one can control for activities one pursues. Why should the endeavour of viewing pornography legally be discriminated against? manoj -- Scenery is here, wish you were beautiful. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
nderstand it. Guidelines? a) legal to distribute b) meets the dfsg c) scratches an itch you feel, and something you are willing to sign up to maintain and keep bug free. manoj -- Never trust anyone who says money is no object. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
etween kde and hot-babe? > Does NM include a half-a-clue check? Sure. Let us include an inquisition phase in NM that tests candidate DD's for moral pulchritude as well, and make sure they all practice RightThink. manoj -- I have never been one to sacrifice my appeti

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:49:06 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 11:21:03AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > Indeed, and this is also why Manoj's vi/KDE argument is not >> > relevant. >> >> > vi serves a useful

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:41:34 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> a) legal to distribute > Where, and to who? You can't distribute something without being > somewhere and distributing it to someone.

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:45:35 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:57 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 23:38:19 +, Will Newton >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > On Wednesday 01 Dec 2004 21:30,

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 12:47:32 -0600, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:26:26PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > Nobody objects to the CPU monitor itself. The objection lies >> > with the included image, not with the code. Remove

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
jectionable to children is under discussion, there is alot of language in the linux kernel like what caused Stern to be fined millions of dollars. It is certainly not PG-13, and you can't just hjand stuff containing such language to underage children. Shall we throw all kerel sour

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 20:17:43 +, Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thursday 02 Dec 2004 07:50, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > No. We are talking about "distributing" hot-babe. Debian never >> > has and probably never will distribute "teh I

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
equally false. Why? Why should one not be true and the others false? Why can't there really be one true religion? manoj -- Seeing danger where there is no danger, and not seeing danger where there is, by holding to wrong views people go to a bad rebirth. 317 Manoj Srivastav

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
g who visited this plane > of existence. Either way, Krishna "is" Jesus. So, if one statement is true, all other statements are true? It must be fascinating to live in your world. manoj -- Do not think by infection, catching an opinion like a cold. Manoj Srivastava

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
7;t want to risk > upsetting anybody or risk getting arrested and I don't want to have > to do it in secret". -- Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, remember to exclude the Linux kernel, then. It is certainly not minor friendly. manoj -- All people are bor

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:43:19 -0500, Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > * Manoj Srivastava ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:02:24 +1100, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >> > (However, the material in question on this t

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- (abusive?) erotic images in Debian

2004-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
h, cool, there go vi and emacs. manoj -- Parkinson's Law: Work expands to fill the time allotted it. Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 4 Dec 2004 00:20:32 +1100, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 06:11:56PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 09:17:05 +1100, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> said: >> > My point was for somebody

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 20:20:00 -0600, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 17:53 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 12:45:35 -0600, Ron Johnson >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> >> > On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 17:57 -

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
lishes) your argument? manoj -- "I got rid of my husband. The cat was allergic." Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
27;t see them shutting down the Louvre. manoj -- QOTD: "What I like most about myself is that I'm so understanding when I mess things up." Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Questionable image process. Was: Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- (abusive?) erotic images in Debian

2004-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
splaying hair, or perhaps even images of living things. Are we sure we want to tolerate such parochial intolerance? manoj -- GIVE UP Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

2004-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
hope. Umm, only if it is indeed deemed to be illegal. So far, there has been just FUD about this issue. I am not sure that artistic work qualifies as porn, which seems to be the case here. manoj -- Democrats give their worn-out clothes to those less fortunate. Republicans w

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
7;s can be hijacked if the original author does not follow through. manoj -- NEWARK has been REZONED!! DES MOINES has been REZONED!! Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activitymonitor

2004-12-06 Thread Manoj Srivastava
e that something I have worked upon, is legal, and free, and my work can't be put into debian because of your narrow morality, then it is indeed censorship. manoj -- What kind of sordid business are you on now? I mean, man, whither goest thou? Whither goest thou, America, in thy shiny car in the night? -- Jack Kerouac Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C

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