> Hi all, Em Qui, 2004-12-02 às 07:46, Tollef Fog Heen escreveu:
>> * Helen Faulkner
>>
>> | Pornography is widely regarded as being demeaning and insulting
>> to women.
>>
>> - A lot of people don't think the cartoon is pornography.
> A lot of men don't think the cartoon is pornography.
Aren't men people too? ;-)
>>
>> - If you think it is pr0n then I think it would be nice if you
>> rather
>> provided some other pictures. A sheared sheep or a tree losing its
>> leaves have been suggested. Joe Drew (iirc) provided an offer,
>> valid two months as of a couple of hours ago that he'd make the
>> program themeable if somebody provided graphics.
>>
>> If you actually _do_ something about the graphics, you are helping.
>> Just saying «this shouldn't be packaged because it objectifies
>> women» doesn't change the world.
> I ask a friend of mine to send me the same kind of pictures of a
> man, so I hope I'll have a patch to hot-babe in two days.
Ah, so you don't think it was offensive, you just wanted to
share in the fun. Fair enough.
>>
>> I am not saying I don't believe you, I am just surprised that you
>> seem to feel objectified and pressured by a silly little cartoon.
> They are confusing somethings when compares sexual discrimination
> with any other kind of. Be a women is not a religion choice and is
> not a the same thing than choose a Desktop Manager. You are
> argumenting against equality. I'm a women but I have the same rights
> you have. Can you understand that?
Is equality and self image so fragile as to be threatened by
nude cartoons? Me, i am not sure I feel threatened by the gay porn,
femdom, and transgender pornography out there. I prefer to let
people do whatever turns them on in the privacy of their homes, as
long as I am not forced to participate. I have no interest forcing my
mores down other peoples throats. (Indeed, if our users want to see
porn, should we not be facilitating this use of the machine?)
> "It is also the type of discussion that deterred me from becoming
> involved in Debian for some time."
In that case, I am glad this has come up early enough so
people know the nature of the beast they are trying to be a part of.
manoj
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