On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 10:12:05PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
On 05.03.25 21:35, Marc Haber wrote:
And which of the millions of changes would that be that would break
YOUR system?
The number of changes that can adversely impact your ability to boot
*or* your network connectivity (but whic
Andrey Rakhmatullin writes:
> This (as a mild but easy to get example of pre-formatted text):
>
>> For sake of argument:- If this re-wrapping is purely client side and
>> happens after PGP verification, incoming mail could still show as
>> verified (but it may look slightly different)- I could to
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 08:39:43PM -0500, Helmut K. C. Tessarek wrote:
> This is my first mail in a Debian mailing list and I hope I've chosen the
> correct one. There are way too many lists thus please direct me to the
> correct one, in case I messed up.
As the matter is intersecting multiple pac
Hi all,
On 2025-02-26 10:21, Soren Stoutner wrote:
I started thinking about this a few weeks ago when I received an email
from a Debian Developer complaining that replies from my email client
(KMail) looked odd because they truncated quoted lines in a way that did
not lay out pleasingly. Th
On Mon, 03 Mar 2025, Blair Noctis wrote:n
> Dan Armstrong (don) wontfix'd it after stating that, quote:
> > If the maintainer is not given as a mailing list, then the uploaders
> > should all subscribe to the PTS for a given package.
>
> and
>
> > The problem is that if I start sending mails to U
Hi Sean and everybody,
Around 12 years ago, I proposed a peer-review system to increase the quality of
the packages in the NEW queue. https://wiki.debian.org/CopyrightReview
Maybe we could revisit the idea along these lines:
- a Salsa group into which people fork repos and run CI screens for c
Hello,
On Wed 05 Mar 2025 at 11:35pm +0530, Nilesh Patra wrote:
> Do you mind clarifying why that's the case, unless the reason is truly
> personal or undisclosable?
It's pretty simple -- there is no-one with the free time to train them
right now, in which case trainees will simply burn out, bec
Sarbjit Singh Sandhu writes:
> I am writing to propose the creation of a new Debian branch that
> offers a stable release every year, as opposed to the current 5-year
> cycle.
It's really great to see young people interested in Debian. I do need to
point out that the current cycle has been appr
Am Mittwoch, dem 05.03.2025 um 09:14 +0100 schrieb Gard Spreemann:
> I do need to point out that the current cycle has been approximately
> 2 years long for quite a while, not 5.
That is technically correct, but the freeze period is quite long as
well. As a result, the software is significantly ol
unsubsribe
Sean Whitton ezt írta (időpont: 2025. márc. 5.,
Sze, 12:17):
> Hello everyone,
>
> On Tue 04 Mar 2025 at 09:40am +01, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
> > Dear Debian community,
> >
> > this is bits from DPL for February.
> >
> >
> > Ftpmaster team is seeking for new team members
> > ==
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Christian Bayle
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
* Package name: rocm-docs-core
Version : v1.17.1
Upstream Contact: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
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* License : Creati
Hi,
On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 at 10:24, Nilesh Patra wrote:
> On 05/03/25 4:47 pm, Sean Whitton wrote:
> > On Tue 04 Mar 2025 at 09:40am +01, Andreas Tille wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Debian community,
> >>
> >> this is bits from DPL for February.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ftpmaster team is seeking for new team members
>
On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 12:52 PM Sean Whitton wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> On Tue 04 Mar 2025 at 09:40am +01, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
> > Dear Debian community,
> >
> > this is bits from DPL for February.
> >
> >
> > Ftpmaster team is seeking for new team members
> > ==
Hi!
> Given the above four points, I propose the line from the code of conduct
> quoted above be changed to read:
>
> “There is no expectation that emails sent to the mailing lists are wrapped by
> the sender at a particular column, but those sending emails may wrap them if
> they choose.”
>
>
Am Mittwoch, dem 05.03.2025 um 14:38 + schrieb Jeremy Stanley:
> There's also a several-month freeze after taking a snapshot of
> packages from sid before the release occurs, so when an Ubuntu LTS
> release happens the contemporary age of packages in the prior LTS is
> well over two years by
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 20:39:43 -0500, "Helmut K. C. Tessarek"
wrote:
>Both network "outages" could have been prevented by adding a note at the
>end of the dist-upgrade output.
>
>e.g. something like the following (monospace font required for the
>"Attention" text):
>
> _ _ _ _ _
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Alexander Sulfrian
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
* Package name: python-atom
Version : 0.11.0
Upstream Contact: Matthieu C. Dartiailh
* URL : https://github.com/nucleic/atom
* License : BSD-3-clause
Prog
On Tue Mar 4, 2025 at 7:52 PM GMT, Soren Stoutner wrote:
This is an interesting question based on a presumption that I didn’t
know was possible. In a plain text email, is it possible to indicate
that certain lines are not wrappable?
Yes. That's exactly what format=flowed does. Line ends in sp
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Christian Bayle
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
* Package name: gitlab-buildpkg-tools
Version : no versionning
Upstream Contact: Christian Bayle
* URL : https://gitlab.com/Orange-OpenSource/gitlab-buildpkg-tools
* Li
On 05.03.25 17:16, Bjørn Mork wrote:
apt install apt-listchanges
To be fair, apt-listchanges lists a whole lot of changes, esp. when you
do a dist-upgrade.
Noticing the one change among the umpteen more-or-less-major NEWS
entries that actually affects the ability of your system to safely
r
On 2025-03-05 16:17:20 + (+), Jonathan Dowland wrote:
On Tue Mar 4, 2025 at 7:52 PM GMT, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> This is an interesting question based on a presumption that I didn’t
> know was possible. In a plain text email, is it possible to
> indicate that certain lines are not wrap
On 05/03/25 4:47 pm, Sean Whitton wrote:
> On Tue 04 Mar 2025 at 09:40am +01, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
>> Dear Debian community,
>>
>> this is bits from DPL for February.
>>
>>
>> Ftpmaster team is seeking for new team members
>> ==
>
> No, we are not.
>
On Wed, Mar 5, 2025 at 4:06 PM Otto Kekäläinen wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> > Given the above four points, I propose the line from the code of conduct
> > quoted above be changed to read:
> >
> > “There is no expectation that emails sent to the mailing lists are wrapped
> > by the sender at a particular c
I genuinely love that there is engagement with Andreas's "Bits from the
DPL" mails, but, it would be lovely if people adjusted the Subject so we
can differentiate sub-topics from each other.
--
Please do not CC me for listmail.
👱🏻 Jonathan Dowland
✎j...@debian.org
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Hi,
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 04:06:56PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 20:39:43 -0500, "Helmut K. C. Tessarek"
> wrote:
> >Both network "outages" could have been prevented by adding a note at the
> >end of the dist-upgrade output.
> >
> >e.g. something like the following (monospace
Il 05/03/2025 02:39, Helmut K. C. Tessarek ha scritto:
This is my first mail in a Debian mailing list and I hope I've chosen
the correct one. There are way too many lists thus please direct me to
the correct one, in case I messed up.
I would like to make a suggestion for release upgrades. It s
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Antoine Le Gonidec
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org
* Package name: play.it-strategy
Version : no release yet, we will trigger one soon
Upstream Contact: Antoine Le Gonidec
* URL :
On 2025-03-05 10:40:38 + (+), Stephan Verbücheln wrote:
[...]
Ubuntu schedules its LTS release always for April (normal releases
October), because Gnome is always releasing in March and September. So
for Ubuntu LTS users, the age of desktop apps is up to two years.
[...]
Not really. Th
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 12:07 PM Blair Noctis wrote:
> (I'm also confused by the fact that follow-ups to bug reports aren't
> forwarded to submitters by default, but the submitter must X-Debbugs-Cc
> themselves, but then which is basically the default behavior of reportbug(1)
> now IIRC, but tha
Michael Banck writes:
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 04:06:56PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 20:39:43 -0500, "Helmut K. C. Tessarek"
>> wrote:
>> >Both network "outages" could have been prevented by adding a note at the
>> >end of the dist-upgrade output.
>> >
>> >e.g. something lik
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 06:29:26PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Noticing the one change among the umpteen more-or-less-major NEWS
entries that actually affects the ability of your system to safely
reboot with the same network configuration is not a trivial task, even
for reasonably experience
On 2025-03-05 12:29, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Noticing the one change among the umpteen more-or-less-major NEWS
entries that actually affects the ability of your system to safely
reboot with the same network configuration is not a trivial task, even
for reasonably experienced sysadmins.
I coul
Hello,
Thaank you for all the replies so far.
On 2025-03-05 10:15, Michael Banck wrote:
Presumably because it will be written directly to their terminal.
Yes, this is one of the reasons. During a dist-upgrade you receive the
changes, but it's many, many pages long and spotting the entry that
On Wednesday, March 5, 2025 12:34:27 PM MST Marc Haber wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 06:29:26PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> >Noticing the one change among the umpteen more-or-less-major NEWS
> >entries that actually affects the ability of your system to safely
> >reboot with the same networ
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Alexander Sulfrian
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
* Package name: python-pegen
Version : 0.3.0
Upstream Contact: Matthieu C. Dartiailh
* URL : https://github.com/we-like-parsers/pegen
* License : MIT
Prog
On 05.03.25 21:35, Marc Haber wrote:
And which of the millions of changes would that be that would break
YOUR system?
The number of changes that can adversely impact your ability to boot
*or* your network connectivity (but which won't fail the upgrade!) can
safely be assumed to be smaller th
Matthias Urlichs writes:
> On 05.03.25 17:16, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> apt install apt-listchanges
>
> To be fair, apt-listchanges lists a whole lot of changes, esp. when
> you do a dist-upgrade.
>
> Noticing the one change among the umpteen more-or-less-major NEWS
> entries that actually affects the
On 2025-03-05 14:51, Bjørn Mork wrote:
We can (and do, AFAIK) discuss which items belong in NEWS. But there
are many more-or-less-major changes which might require attention when
you do a dist-upgrade. Filtering this list down to one or two items is
not realistic. And prefixing the list with ATT
On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 03:32:51PM -0500, Helmut K. C. Tessarek wrote:
I doubt there are more than one or at max two items that would break
network connectivity.
And which of the millions of changes would that be that would break YOUR
system?
--
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On 05.03.25 12:17, Sean Whitton wrote:
Ftpmaster team is seeking for new team members
==
No, we are not.
The NEW queue currently contains ~135 packages. The median wait time on
the list(*) is three weeks, and the oldest packages have been, well,
la
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