Quoting Matthias Urlichs (sm...@smurf.noris.de):
> Hi,
>
> Salvo Tomaselli:
> >
> > > You can restart pulse. No big problem except temporary interrupt of audio,
> > You mean a temporary presence of audio that will immediately go away as
> > soon
> > as pulse is running again right?
> >
> Don't
Excerpts from Noah Meyerhans's message of 2014-02-14 14:47:49 -0800:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 07:40:20PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> > > I have to admit that I did *not* expect this. At all.
> > >
> > > http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316
> > >
> >
> > Quite the opposite - some peop
On 02/15/2014 09:22 AM, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> So, before doing so: will that be helpful?
I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They
have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices with
one input jack and one output jack and any application using it jus
(admitedly, d-d is not the right place.I make the promise I won't
steal the list for too long but, hey, this thread has already been
useful to at least one person, so let's try to make it even mor euseful)
Quoting John Paul Adrian Glaubitz (glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de):
> On 02/15/2014 09:22
> On 11 Feb 2014, at 16:40, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
>
> (a) please tell us which feature is only available with upstart.
Please don't.
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On 2014-02-14 16:42, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 04:39:25PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Are buildd people happy with humans sending their logs this way?
Well, I am, but it's probably not my call.
Which keyring does it use to validate? Can DMs send logs? Does it
validate
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014, Philipp Kern wrote:
> That's why I was careful to publish the address nowhere. We do some
Unfortunately, that cat is out of the bag, now. Whether it will get spammed
or attacked, I don't know.
However, it is not like we ever could trust the logs anyway for any security
purpo
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, Noah Meyerhans wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand why. Debian and Ubuntu have been using
> different init systems for some time now, with Ubuntu on upstart and
> Debian on sysvinit. Why should our change of defaults really matter to
> them, when they weren't using our default a
- "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz" wrote:
> I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They
> have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices with
> one input jack and one output jack and any application using it just
> has to find the sound card and output its
* Philipp Kern , 2014-02-15, 15:19:
Are buildd people happy with humans sending their logs this way?
Well, I am, but it's probably not my call.
Which keyring does it use to validate? Can DMs send logs? Does it
validate at all, or can some script kiddies use it as a pastebin
service? :)
That's
]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
> Well, it is difficult to second-guess Shuttelworth, but the "tight coupling"
> is likely to be part of it. This was a non-issue with sysvinit (for Debian)
> and upstart (for Ubuntu), but with systemd we will have to get involved
> upstream.
>
> Debian and Ubuntu
On 2014-02-15 15:34, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Sat, 15 Feb 2014, Philipp Kern wrote:
That's why I was careful to publish the address nowhere. We do some
Unfortunately, that cat is out of the bag, now. Whether it will get
spammed
or attacked, I don't know.
However, it is not lik
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On Sat, 15 Feb 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> ]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
> > Well, it is difficult to second-guess Shuttelworth, but the "tight coupling"
> > is likely to be part of it. This was a non-issue with sysvinit (for Debian)
> > and upstart (for Ubuntu), but with systemd we will have
On 14/02/14 14:58, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
> On 14 February 2014 13:42, ChaosEsque Team wrote:
>> The systemd fans ban anyone who say fork-that to systemd.
>
> Not respecting the communication culture of the project is a perfectly
> reasonable reason for a ban, regardless of the opinion expresse
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 19:05 +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
> On 14/02/14 14:58, Aigars Mahinovs wrote:
> > On 14 February 2014 13:42, ChaosEsque Team wrote:
> >> The systemd fans ban anyone who say fork-that to systemd.
> >
> > Not respecting the communication culture of the project is a perfectl
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 09:58:05AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They
> have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices with
> one input jack and one output jack and any application using it just
> has to fin
On 02/15/2014 08:42 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> If any configuration is required, that is a bug in pulseaudio.
According to that logic, half of the software in Debian is broken.
Adrian
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Steve Langasek writes:
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 09:58:05AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They
>> have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices with one
>> input jack and one output jack and any applicat
On 02/15/2014 08:59 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Steve Langasek writes:
>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 09:58:05AM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>>> I think most people simply don't configure PulseAudio correctly. They
>>> have the assumption that sound cards are still simple devices with one
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes:
> On 02/15/2014 08:59 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I'll agree with that. Audio really should just work unless the
>> hardware configuration is particularly strange.
> So, if your computer has several sounds cards - which is the case when
> you have both a sound c
Hi,
Russ Allbery:
> PulseAudio already implements. For example, if it's a common problem to
> have the sound going through HDMI audio when people have a sound card,
> maybe the default in that case should be to use the sound card rather than
> HDMI. Or (and I don't know if that capability is pre
On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 08:50:18PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 02/15/2014 08:42 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > If any configuration is required, that is a bug in pulseaudio.
> According to that logic, half of the software in Debian is broken.
There's a difference between "broken"
On 02/15/2014 09:23 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Whenever someone says "I installed pulseaudio and my sound stopped working",
> the right answer is *not* "here are some tools that let you reconfigure
> pulseaudio". The right answer is "let's figure out how to fix pulseaudio so
> that this doesn't h
In data sabato 15 febbraio 2014 21:52:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz ha
scritto:
> The problem is that many people who complain about PulseAudio issues
> are often prejudiced about it
Well I am now biased against pulseaudio. But let's look at the facts: it comes
by default, in the last 3 desktop
On 02/15/2014 10:12 PM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> In data sabato 15 febbraio 2014 21:52:24, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz ha
> scritto:
>
>> The problem is that many people who complain about PulseAudio issues
>> are often prejudiced about it
> Well I am now biased against pulseaudio. But let's look
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Hi,
Salvo Tomaselli:
>
> Reporting bugs doesn't really help very much
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=702884
>
> So please stop blaming it on users.
>
Umm, what? Looking at that bug, it was obvious from your first email that
you have a basic problem with pulse being installe
> Meh, I don't want to start another flame war. It works fine for me and
> for all users (~1000) at my Physics Department where we deploy Debian
I do believe you
> Well, Anton couldn't reproduce the bug, so you probably didn't
> provide enough information.
I did offer to provide the information as
In data sabato 15 febbraio 2014 23:46:24, Matthias Urlichs ha scritto:
> Umm, what? Looking at that bug, it was obvious from your first email that
> you have a basic problem with pulse being installed, and that you aren't
> really interested in helping find the cause of the problem.
Hm.. Please let
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The problem (insane pulseaudio defaults disabling audio output) has not been
debugged yet because there is an easy workaround: deinstall pulseaudio.
There
seems to be little interest in investigating the issue.
Why not document the status quo somewhere (known issues in the release notes
or the
On 15/02/14 19:58, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
> So, in order to be able to properly configure PulseAudio, install
> "pavucontrol" or use the sound preferences in GNOME3 or MATE (with
> the package mate-media-pulse being installed).
>
I'd like to take the opportunity to plug the "pasystra
On 02/16/2014 12:39 AM, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
> Hm.. Please let me copy and paste some passages from that bug-report:
>
> I said: "If you are willing to help, I am willing to cooperate and send you
> configuration and details about my system."
>
> To which I got this answer: "No, thanks. See my
> Well, I'm sorry but I would have probably reacted the same. You were not
> reporting a bug, you were just ranting.
I am glad I don't need to use any of your packages then :-)
> How about writing a proper bug report without being so hostile?
How would another bug help, when my offer to send furth
I'd like to chime in on this whole build thing.
I've been trying to get pbuilder working for a few days now, on a package
from backports. It should be a simple task, but I need a minor modification
in the form of an extra repository for dependencies.
It's been incredibly difficult to get the packa
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 18:21 +0100, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
> On 13/02/2014 21:25, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:38:55PM -0600, Matt Zagrabelny wrote:
> >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Holger Levsen
> >> wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> On Donnerst
On 13/02/14 22:10, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote:
> On 13 February 2014 16:13, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On Donnerstag, 13. Februar 2014, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>>> >> this is just a pledge to you all fellow debian developers to update your
>>> >> build environment before you build a package
All of the bugs have been filed. Just under half have been
fixed. Almost all the rest have tested patches. I'm going to start
uploading 10-day delayed NMUs to try to close these out.
If you have an issue with this please speak now or forever hold your
peace.
* Eric Dorland (e...@debian.org) wrote
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