]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh 

> Well, it is difficult to second-guess Shuttelworth, but the "tight coupling"
> is likely to be part of it.  This was a non-issue with sysvinit (for Debian)
> and upstart (for Ubuntu), but with systemd we will have to get involved
> upstream.
> 
> Debian and Ubuntu together have enough weight to affect systemd development
> somewhat, and more imporantly, enough resources to permanently maintain a
> fork should that ever become necessary (I have no reasons to belive it will
> happen, and I don't count minor distro-specific changes as a fork).

You make it sound like we are not involved upstream and that we don't
already have weight to affect systemd development.  Neither of those are
true.

-- 
Tollef Fog Heen
UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are


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