On Mon Apr 06 08:18, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:52:54AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
>
> > In Debian we have several teams working on maintaining large numbers
> > of packages (pkg-games, pkg-perl, pkg-gnome for example). I
> > proposed[1] to silence the lintian NMU warnings
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:18:33AM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:52:54AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
>
> > In Debian we have several teams working on maintaining large numbers
> > of packages (pkg-games, pkg-perl, pkg-gnome for example). I
> > proposed[1] to silence the
On Mon Apr 06 08:55, Frans Pop wrote:
> > This is a heads up mail for the D-I team.
>
> I'm not sure where the original mail comes from, but IMO this should be
> discussed on d-devel, especially since it impacts more than just D-I. I
> suspect there are quite a few packages that make some sort o
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 09:27:53AM +0200, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:18:33AM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:52:54AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
>>> I proposed[1] to silence the lintian NMU warnings in the case of
>>> "team uploads"; where the pers
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 11:06:15PM +0200, Bart Samwel wrote:
> I'm putting the acpi-support package up for adoption. The RFA bug is here:
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522683
Given that I already maintain acpid in pkg-acpi, I'm very interested. And yes,
the acpi team will w
Le Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:52:54AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
>
> In Debian we have several teams working on maintaining large numbers
> of packages (pkg-games, pkg-perl, pkg-gnome for example). I
> proposed[1] to silence the lintian NMU warnings in the case of "team
> uploads"; where the person d
Hi Steve,
On Mon, April 6, 2009 05:44, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 11:06:15PM +0200, Bart Samwel wrote:
>> 1. The upstream for this package is Ubuntu. Ubuntu has never been very
>> cooperative at accepting changes, until recently: our contact Steve
>> Langasek has indicated tha
Le lundi 06 avril 2009 à 06:18 +0900, Hideki Yamane a écrit :
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:51:28 +0100
> Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > In which case the correct approach, I think, is to remove all the
> > ttf-japanese-* in Provides:, and upload new ttf-japanese-gothic/mincho
> > packages that depend on
Package: wnpp
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On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 05:05:40PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:52:54AM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit :
> >
> > In Debian we have several teams working on maintaining large numbers
> > of packages (pkg-games, pkg-perl, pkg-gnome for example). I
> > proposed[1] to silence th
Michael Meskes wrote:
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 11:06:15PM +0200, Bart Samwel wrote:
I'm putting the acpi-support package up for adoption. The RFA bug is here:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522683
Given that I already maintain acpid in pkg-acpi, I'm very interested. And yes,
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Bart Samwel wrote:
> black hole. Things suddenly got much easier when I got into direct
> contact with you. But I shouldn't be blaming Ubuntu, my expectations just
> didn't match the way Ubuntu works.
To be fair, I proposed co-maintenance to Matthew Garrett when I
integrated
Le Monday 06 April 2009 08:18:33 Lionel Elie Mamane, vous avez écrit :
> My reasoning is that a package that has had only "team uploads" for
> three years is a package where effectively no human is taking charge
> for maintaining it, just as a package that has had only NMU uploads in
> three years;
Le Monday 06 April 2009 09:32:14 Matthew Johnson, vous avez écrit :
> > > Don't we have some install paths that still depend on LILO?
> >
> > Yes: /boot on LVM is the main one.
>
>
> We _certainly_ shouldn't throw it out if there are _known_ situations
> for which it's required.
>
> By all means
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:46:19AM +0200, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> Le Monday 06 April 2009 08:18:33 Lionel Elie Mamane, vous avez écrit :
>> My reasoning is that a package that has had only "team uploads" for
>> three years is a package where effectively no human is taking charge
>> for maintaining
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> I also use lilo for /boot on LVM and I also clearly remember that was the
> major reason for the previous debate about the removal of lilo.
Grub2 in lenny and later contains an lvm module:
/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/lvm.mod
Has anyone who uses
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> Just like NMUs: just because a package had a small number of NMUs does
> not mean it needs special QA attention. But a pattern of only NMUs is
> a tag for QA attention. As Paul means them (I'm in the team, but for
The point of team upload is precise
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
> I think that it is a good concept, but the linian warning has probably a good
> reason to exist. For instance, if a bug is closed as part of a "Team upload",
> won't the BTS expect a NMU acknowledgement anyway?
IIRC that concept died when we introduced
Hi,
although for various reasons (mostly ongoing transitions) we are quite
late in packaging GNOME 2.26 in Debian, we should also look at the
future. GTK+ 3.0 is planned around march 2010, and GNOME 3.0 a little
while later. With them comes the final deprecation of many GNOME 2.X
interfaces.
It t
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > So I object to using NMU version for team uploads but I would like to
> > have a mechanism for a team upload that doesn't lead to people adding
> > themselves in Uploaders when they don't have a (real/long-term) commitm
Le Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:13:45PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > I think that it is a good concept, but the linian warning has probably a
> > good
> > reason to exist. For instance, if a bug is closed as part of a "Team
> > upload",
> > won't th
On 06/04/09 at 19:48 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:13:45PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> > On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > > I think that it is a good concept, but the linian warning has probably a
> > > good
> > > reason to exist. For instance, if a
* Felipe Sateler [Tue, 31 Mar 2009 08:58:23 +1100]:
> > * plan for libjack0.100.0-0: there are 11 source packages left with
> > dependencies on this old library. No sourceful uploads are needed
> > for this: once you’ve gotten back to me that the plan is good, I
> > will provide you with
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:44:54PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Heya, we have several packages implementing line-editing
> capabilities. I know at least 3 of them: "cle", "ledit", and
> "rlwrap", but there might be others.
Oh yes. Hmm... cle is dead upstream, rather buggy with no progress
w
Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Steffen Moeller wrote:
>
>> we should ask the technical committee to rule over it. And maybe this
>> needs some voting in the end.
>
> Who is this *we*? Do you volunteer?
:) no, since I personally see no preferable alternative to the current
conflicti
Le Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:52:22PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit :
> On 06/04/09 at 19:48 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > Le Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 12:13:45PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
> > > On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > > > I think that it is a good concept, but the linian w
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Owner: Paul Wise
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Hi,
I wonder whether this shouldnt have been on d-d-a. I think it should have :)
regards,
Holger, now also wondering if I should send this mail in private ;-)
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Please remove package cle from unstable / testing; source and
binaries. It is dead upstream (no release since 1999), and since I
uploaded it to Debian better alternatives have appeared (such as
rlwrap).
Some Debian-local work has been done in the rather di
Matthew Johnson writes:
> On Mon Apr 06 08:55, Frans Pop wrote:
>> > This is a heads up mail for the D-I team.
>>
>> I'm not sure where the original mail comes from, but IMO this should be
>> discussed on d-devel, especially since it impacts more than just D-I. I
>> suspect there are quite a f
Heya, we have several packages implementing line-editing
capabilities. I know at least 3 of them: "cle", "ledit", and "rlwrap",
but there might be others. Some are implemented on top of GNU
readline, some are not (e.g. "ledit"), nevertheless they all seem to
offer a common interface "NAME command"
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> So I object to using NMU version for team uploads but I would like to
> have a mechanism for a team upload that doesn't lead to people adding
> themselves in Uploaders when they don't have a (real/long-term) commitment
> to the package.
You can put the team name and mailin
> Joerg Jaspert disait :
>
>> we just added two new architectures to the Debian archive. Everybody
>> please welcome
>
>> kfreebsd-i386 AKA GNU/kFreeBSD i386
>> kfreebsd-amd64 AKA GNU/kFreeBSD amd64
Hi Joerg,
What should be done with amd64-libs and ia32-libs now? Can we add
those archs to
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:
> > would really be a waste of time that would anihilate the efficiency
> > of working in a team.
>
> The only "burden" I propose imposing is the NMU versioning, which does
> not feel to me like it is additional work. Instead of writing "-3",
> write
Le Monday 06 April 2009 12:27:22 Raphael Hertzog, vous avez écrit :
> > You can put the team name and mailing list in the changelog. That will
> > avoid the lintian warning and you can look for team uploads by looking at
> > uploads with the team name in the Changed-By field. A recent example:
>
>
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On Mon Apr 06 11:07, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
> So lets get grub2 working everywhere. :) A worthy goal.
>
Sure, but don't remove lilo until we're happy that grub2 does work
everywhere.
Matt
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> For blaming, there should be the specific name of the responsible in the
> changelog. Also, it seems meaningful to me that the changelog is named after
> the team, it seems to be equivalent to the real world "on behalf of the XXX
> team".
Except when
Frans Pop writes:
> On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
[...]
>> > I do not have time to manage the removal at this point, but it will
>> > be gone by June.
>
> Has the package already been offered for adoption? Preferably with an
> overview of its current (upstream) status and m
Raphael Hertzog (06/04/2009):
> Except when you have multiple people listed you don't know who
> uploaded without resorting to who-uploads (or gpg check).
Not to mention cases where 5 people are listed there, and the package
got sponsored by even someone else (any idea how many NMs there were in
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:03:10 +0800
Paul Wise wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Romain Beauxis wrote:
>
> > I also use lilo for /boot on LVM and I also clearly remember that
> > was the major reason for the previous debate about the removal of
> > lilo.
>
> Grub2 in lenny and later contain
I demand that Otavio Salvador may or may not have written...
> Frans Pop writes:
[snip]
>> Anyone remember the fairly big upset when lilo was removed from testing
>> around D-I Lenny Beta2?
> I also share the feeling that a lot of people still use LILO; if possible
> I do belive it should be ke
Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 06:42:29AM +0200]:
> Not quite sure what the question is. As far as I know, Debian
> supported tmpfs mounted /var/run when I become co-maintainer of
> sysvinit, and I have tried to keep it this way. The only recent
> changes it that it has become eas
Le Monday 06 April 2009 16:08:36 Cyril Brulebois, vous avez écrit :
> Indeed, I like to know who took the “this package can be uploaded”
> decision, which is a bit more important than just committing a fix in
> $VCS and adding ones name to the changelog. A bit of final review has to
> be done, to e
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 16:17 +0200, Harald Braumann wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 17:03:10 +0800
> Paul Wise wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> >
> > > I also use lilo for /boot on LVM and I also clearly remember that
> > > was the major reason for the previous deb
Frans Pop wrote:
On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained upstream and
the widespread availability of alternatives.
I think that last part is debatable.
I do not have time t
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 15:09 +0100, Darren Salt wrote:
> I demand that Otavio Salvador may or may not have written...
>
> > Frans Pop writes:
> [snip]
> >> Anyone remember the fairly big upset when lilo was removed from testing
> >> around D-I Lenny Beta2?
>
> > I also share the feeling that a l
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 10:24:54AM -0500, William Pitcock
wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 16:17 +0200, Harald Braumann wrote:
> > You can't specify boot options per entry (there's only a global option
> > in /etc/default grub, that applies to all entries).
>
> Sure you can, just don't use update-
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 10:44 -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Frans Pop writes:
>
> > On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> >> > I do not have time to manage the removal at this point, but it will
> >> > be gone by June.
> >
> > Has the package already been offered for a
William Pitcock wrote:
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:26 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
Frans Pop wrote:
On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained upstream and
the widespread ava
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:26 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> Frans Pop wrote:
> > On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> >> Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
> >>> lilo is due for removal anyway due to being unmaintained upstream and
> >>> the widespread availabil
Romain Beauxis (06/04/2009):
> Couldn't this also be a line in the changelog ?
Like the trailer line, yes.
> This is not a standard but this is done in many cases:
>
> [ Romain Beauxis ]
> * Upload to $TARGET
Dunno about others, but I just see that as: this person chose to target
this or tha
OS> I also share the feeling that a lot of people still uses LILO; if
OS> possible I do belive it should be kept.
I use lilo, I like lilo.
I don't like grub because it has unlogically config, unlogically
behavior, strange reconfig-system. I don't like the programs with
perverse intellect. Grub is
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:02:04PM +0400, Dmitry E. Oboukhov
wrote:
> OS> I also share the feeling that a lot of people still uses LILO; if
> OS> possible I do belive it should be kept.
>
> I use lilo, I like lilo.
> I don't like grub because it has unlogically config, unlogically
> behavior, st
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:40 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> William Pitcock wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 17:26 +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> >> Frans Pop wrote:
> >>> On Monday 06 April 2009, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting William Pitcock (neno...@dereferenced.org):
> >
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 06:06:38PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
|| On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:02:04PM +0400, Dmitry E. Oboukhov
wrote:
|| > I use lilo, I like lilo.
|| > I don't like grub because it has unlogically config, unlogically
|| > behavior, strange reconfig-system. I don't like the pr
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:52:54 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> In Debian we have several teams working on maintaining large numbers
> of packages (pkg-games, pkg-perl, pkg-gnome for example).
True :)
> I
> proposed[1] to silence the lintian NMU warnings in the case of "team
> uploads"; where the person
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 18:06 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:02:04PM +0400, Dmitry E. Oboukhov
> wrote:
> > OS> I also share the feeling that a lot of people still uses LILO; if
> > OS> possible I do belive it should be kept.
> >
> > I use lilo, I like lilo.
> > I don't lik
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 18:19 +0200, Vincent Zweije wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 06:06:38PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
>
> || On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:02:04PM +0400, Dmitry E. Oboukhov
> wrote:
>
> || > I use lilo, I like lilo.
> || > I don't like grub because it has unlogically config, u
Quoting Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl):
> I'm not sure where the original mail comes from, but IMO this should be
From lilo package BTS which I was tracking for l10n purposes. So I
just happened to notice William's answer to a bug report and thought
it would be good for this to be discussed in pu
* William Pitcock [2009-04-06 17:48]:
> chainloader will work with lilo, but lilo is only kept around for the
> people who are crazy and booting off LVMs as it is.
>
> Booting off LVMs is supported directly by grub2 and ext2linux could
> probably be modified to support it in a much better way tha
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 06:42:29AM +0200]:
>> Not quite sure what the question is. As far as I know, Debian
>> supported tmpfs mounted /var/run when I become co-maintainer of
>> sysvinit, and I have tried to keep it this way. The only recent
>> changes
Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:14:51AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
>>> Ubuntu. The FHS is silent about directories in /var/run across reboots
>>> but requires that all files in /var/run be deleted on reboot.
>
4.) You have to manually cleanup in postrm. (I guess most pack
Michael Biebl writes:
> What can be said though is, that all packages that need a /var/run/
> directory must be fixed. (for the numbers: maybe a new archive scan with
> the new lintian would help to see, how many packages are affected) so it
> at least requires work by the maintainers.
This is i
Raphael Hertzog writes:
> The point of team upload is precisely so that you can update the package
> and not take responsibility for a package that you don't want to
> maintain in the long run.
>
> I was in many Uploaders field because lintian complain if you are not in
> Uploaders/Maintainer, ye
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 20:42 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Sure it can. But I consider this solution very ugly and refused to do this so
> far. For the reasons already mentioned it also makes the (previouly init
> system
> agnostic) D-Bus service dependend on sysv-rc.
Wait, now I'm confused. Why w
Michael Biebl wrote:
> Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> /etc/init.d/mountall-bootclean.sh will take care of cleaning up /var/tmp.
/var/run, of
course.
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WP> No, the answer is always the second one.
If they add a scheduler (why not? :-\) into the
grub it will be become Linux.
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On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:51:54AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Raphael Hertzog writes:
>
> > The point of team upload is precisely so that you can update the package
> > and not take responsibility for a package that you don't want to
> > maintain in the long run.
> >
> > I was in many Uploaders
Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 11:06:15PM +0200, Bart Samwel wrote:
>> 1. The upstream for this package is Ubuntu. Ubuntu has never been very
>> cooperative at accepting changes, until recently: our contact Steve
>> Langasek has indicated that he is interested in merging most or al
I demand that William Pitcock may or may not have written...
[snip]
> Have you looked into ext2linux? It is intended to supercede lilo. I think
> your usage requirements will be satisfied by it.
No; I've not heard of it before.
And I can't find it, at least not reasonably easily... :-|
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On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:42:42AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 18:19 +0200, Vincent Zweije wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 06:06:38PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> >
> > || On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 08:02:04PM +0400, Dmitry E. Oboukhov
> > wrote:
> >
> > || > I use li
This one time, at band camp, Paul Wise said:
> Grub2 in lenny and later contains an lvm module:
>
> /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/lvm.mod
>
> Has anyone who uses lilo for this tried grub2?
hadrian:~# mount
/dev/mapper/HADRIAN-ROOT on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type
This one time, at band camp, William Pitcock said:
> The only way it is feasible to do so is to drop all of the Debian
> patches. Without this, upstream is not cooperative with us.
Why is this?
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Hello,
I'd like to package the selinux tests from the ltp test suite. The tests
need a special selinux policy to be loaded and some files to be relabeled.
I haven't found any standard way of packaging this, so I made an
experimental package (see [1]; it sort of works - not completely, like 1
Martin Wuertele wrote:
> Actually lilo is installed by lenny d-i if you use root-sw-raid with
> LVM, even if your /boot is an differen partition/sw-raid. Therefore lilo
> should at least remain for sqeeze to ensure a proper upgrade path.
I'm afraid you're mistaken here. Lenny D-I should (and AFAIK
Le Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:51:54AM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
>
> There still should be some humans
> in Maintainer/Uploaders who are taking primary responsibility for the
> package, but I think other team members should be able to do QA-style
> fixes and transition uploads without using NMU ve
On Mon, 06 Apr 2009, Matthew Johnson wrote:
> On Mon Apr 06 11:07, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> > So lets get grub2 working everywhere. :) A worthy goal.
> Sure, but don't remove lilo until we're happy that grub2 does work
> everywhere.
And that we have something resembling acceptable, up-to-date
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