Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
> Well, my point was to have a common predefined way of doing it: once you > install kdm (or someone else), or move to xdm or whatever, you still can > disable the start of X by putting nox in the command line, instead of having > to erase the links in rc2.d. Acutally there should be no link in ru

Bug#298030: ftp.debian.org: remove pdp11-unix-v{5,6,7}: orphaned, non-free

2005-03-04 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
Package: ftp.debian.org Severity: normal -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I noticed the pdp1Â-unix-v{5,6,7} images - how useful are they really? popcon suggests that only a few people have installed them. Since Kevin now orphaned them and they are non-free, can we get rid of th

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Michael Koch
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 09:04:21AM +0100, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > > > Well, my point was to have a common predefined way of doing it: once you > > install kdm (or someone else), or move to xdm or whatever, you still can > > disable the start of X by putting nox in the command line, instead of hav

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
> Thats not true. Read the Debian Policy. Its just that some other > distributions use runlevel 2 for console mode. In Debian thats all up to > the user/administrator of the system. Of course we can change this but > its not true currently. Sorry, consider me spoiled by SuSE which I am forced to

PROMPT RESPONSE NEEDED.

2005-03-04 Thread DR.MARK DAVID
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Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Friday 04 March 2005 10:22, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > > Thats not true. Read the Debian Policy. Its just that some other > > distributions use runlevel 2 for console mode. In Debian thats all up > > to the user/administrator of the system. Of course we can change this > > but its not true curren

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Benjamin Mesing
> see > http://www.linuxbase.org/modules.php?name=specrev&url=http://www.linuxbase.org/spec//booksets/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/set1.html > for what the LSB has to say about the subject So its seems SuSE was following LSB recommendations. Just wondering if Debian should switch to LSB reco

Bug#298056: ITP: debsync -- synchronise the installed packages lists on several machines

2005-03-04 Thread Florian Ragwitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Florian Ragwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: debsync Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Jerome Alet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.librelogiciel.com/software/debsync/acti

Re: ITP: debsync -- synchronise the installed packages lists on several machines

2005-03-04 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:12:48PM +0100, Florian Ragwitz wrote: >debsync is a Python command line tool which helps to synchronise the >installed packages lists on several existing Debian GNU/Linux >machines. > >debsync gets a list of installed packages from a master host, and >

Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
When you install an alsa-modules package for the 2.4 kernel, you get alsa-base per the dependencies. However, when you install sarge with a 2.6 kernel, alsa-base doesn't end up being installed. The result is that for most sound cards, both OSS and ALSA modules end up installed, resulting in various

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-04 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Josselin Mouette wrote: 2.6 kernel, alsa-base doesn't end up being installed. The result is that for most sound cards, both OSS and ALSA modules end up installed, resulting in various and random problems. To avoid that, shouldn't the kernel-image packages for 2.6 depend on alsa-base? Please not. Th

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-04 Thread A Mennucc
Justin Pryzby wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 03:47:32PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 03:25:48PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: Obfuscated code does not satisfy DFSG#2. I hope nobody seriously disagrees with this. Let's not be so fast with this. I haven't taken a

Re: Bug#298056: ITP: debsync -- synchronise the installed packages lists on several machines

2005-03-04 Thread Tilman Koschnick
On Fri, 2005-03-04 at 12:12 +0100, Florian Ragwitz wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Florian Ragwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > * Package name: debsync > Version : 1.0 > Upstream Author : Jerome Alet <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
A Mennucc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Justin Pryzby wrote: > >>On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 03:47:32PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: >> >> >>>On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 03:25:48PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: >>> >>> Obfuscated code does not satisfy DFSG#2. I hope nobody seriously disagrees with t

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-04 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Source code is source code. Obfuscated or not does not change that. It > fullfills at least the letter of DFSG#2. For it to violate DFSG#2 you > would have to show that it is not source and the gcc already prooves > you wrong there. If you use 'obf

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Source code is source code. Obfuscated or not does not change that. It >> fullfills at least the letter of DFSG#2. For it to violate DFSG#2 you >> would have to show that it is not source and the gcc al

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-04 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Source code is source code. Obfuscated or not does not change that. It > > fullfills at least the letter of DFSG#2. For it to violate DFSG#2 you > > would have to show that it is not source and the gcc already prooves > > y

Re: Info and statistics about the project

2005-03-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Maykel Moya dijo [Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 02:54:09PM -0400]: > Don't know whether the appropiate list for this post should be > debian-users or this. > > March 25, a Congress of Free Software will take place at UCI, here in > Cuba. I'd been preparing myself to give a talk about the Debian Project. >

Re: Info and statistics about the project

2005-03-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Gah... Sorry for this Spanish last mail, it was supposed to be sent only to Maykel Mora. /me ducks. Greetings, -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)1451-2244 / 5554-9450 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-04 Thread Andreas Barth
* Kalle Kivimaa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050304 17:35]: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Source code is source code. Obfuscated or not does not change that. It > > fullfills at least the letter of DFSG#2. For it to violate DFSG#2 you > > would have to show that it is not source an

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 04 mars 2005 à 15:29 +0100, Thomas Viehmann a écrit : > Josselin Mouette wrote: > > 2.6 kernel, alsa-base doesn't end up being installed. The result is that > > for most sound cards, both OSS and ALSA modules end up installed, > > resulting in various and random problems. To avoid that,

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-04 Thread A Mennucc
sorry, wrong posting (I must switch to a better news reader!) a. A Mennucc wrote: Justin Pryzby wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 03:47:32PM -0500, David Nusinow wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 03:25:48PM -0500, Glenn Maynard wrote: Obfuscated code does not satisfy DFSG#2. I hope nobody serious

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:31:06PM +1100, Paul Hampson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 12:18:14AM +0100, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > > > If so... then it's flat-out not available on the set of systems in > > > question > > > Hm? it is on all my systems:

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-04 Thread Joel Aelwyn
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 05:08:36PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > In my eye even _deliberate_ obfuscation (which remains to be proven) > does not violate the letter of DFSG#2 while it does not follow its > spirit. There are other sources in Debian that are far more unreadbale > or even compil

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-04 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> When you install an alsa-modules package for the 2.4 kernel, you get > alsa-base per the dependencies. However, when you install sarge with a > 2.6 kernel, alsa-base doesn't end up being installed. The result is that > for most sound cards, both OSS and ALSA modules end up installed, > resultin

Bug#298117: ITP: camlrpc -- Ocaml Sun RPC libraries

2005-03-04 Thread Thomas Petazzoni
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Petazzoni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: camlrpc Version : 0.4.1 Upstream Author : Gerd Stolpmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.ocaml-programming.de/programming/rpc.html * License : (GPL, LGPL, BSD, M

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-04 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Nikita V. Youshchenko] > Maybe it's better just not to provide oss drivers for chips supported > by alsa? AFAIK OSS will be removed from kernel soon... It may or may not be removed soon - I note that it isn't listed in Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt in kernel 2.6.11 yet. Anyway, two

Re: NoX idea

2005-03-04 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > Can we assume your systems are all Linux-based Debian? Frankly I dont care about others, yes. I mean it is OK to use portable interfaces where present, I just dont think this works in all cases. In that specific case of course runlevel is already a gen

announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-04 Thread sean finney
hey folks, you might remember some time ago i started a thread[1] or two[2] about developing a consistant policy/feel for how database (more specifically rdbms) application packages should work. well, since then i've spent a lot of time working on both a 'best practices' document as well as a deb

help with bug 296693

2005-03-04 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Bug 296693 is a grave bug which reports a catastrophic guile crash in gnucash. However, it doesn't happen for me. The user told me that it did happen even for other machines of his. Yet, nobody else has reported it. Can a user with an i386 attempt to reproduce the bug and report back? Also, I

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joel Aelwyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 05:08:36PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> In my eye even _deliberate_ obfuscation (which remains to be proven) >> does not violate the letter of DFSG#2 while it does not follow its >> spirit. There are other sources in Debian

Re: Shouldn't kernel-image-2.6.x-y-z depend on alsa-base ?

2005-03-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Josselin Mouette wrote: >> 2.6 kernel, alsa-base doesn't end up being installed. The result is that >> for most sound cards, both OSS and ALSA modules end up installed, >> resulting in various and random problems. To avoid that, shouldn't the >> kernel

Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-04 Thread sean finney
to reply to my own post... i was under the impression that because dbconfig-common was previously in experimental that i wouldn't have problems related to the stalled NEW queue, but i was wrong. so you can get them here: deb http://people.debian.org/~seanius/policy/examples/ ./ deb-src http:

are u alone

2005-03-04 Thread Mrs Rowland
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Re: announcing first release of common database infrastructure package

2005-03-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Friday 04 March 2005 23.57, sean finney wrote: > anyone who is tired of having to spend hours maintaining their > home-rolled mysql/pgsql mangement maintainer script code is whole > heartedly encouraged to check this out! *applaudes heartily* That's sorely needed. Now I hope that the point wh

Re: help with bug 296693

2005-03-04 Thread Adrian von Bidder
tags 296693 +unreproducible thanks On Saturday 05 March 2005 00.16, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Can a user with an i386 attempt to reproduce the bug and report back? I appear to be able to use gnucash just fine, I checked all the library versions in the bug report and adjusted my system accord