Re: 0 RC bugs == releasable quality?

2003-08-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:48:20AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > Imagine a year from now. You're at a geekly convention. Someone > walks up to you and says, "Hey, you're Mark Howard! I've been using > your package in stable, and..." > > At this point, do you go "Uh-oh"? Does your gut start

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 05:34:54PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:10:19PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:22:16AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > Quoting Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > > binary-only uploads are clearly not the sa

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:36:05PM -0400, Neil Roeth wrote: > On Aug 19, Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au) wrote: > >* September 15th > >Last major changes to major packages uploaded to unstable > >* October 1st > >1st test cycle, public request for comments

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 02:17:51AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > That's for Martin Schulze (Joey - Stable Release Manager) and/or the security > team to decide; not ftpmaster. A quick scan of those bugs doesn't reveal anything which looks like a security vulnerability, so this would seem to be pu

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 03:57:45PM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > I'm about to close 95153, 133049, 158040, 16, 170580, 173331, 176223, > 135603, 161659, 165107, 165135, 165351, 171190, 172529, 173663, 174506, > 174508, 174509, 192401, 193544, 101725, 122689, 159575, 165126, 182280, > and 18978

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Earlier if the french team reachs its goal of completely translated package > install in sarge, since we only translate po-debconf files, and do (read We won't.. :-) For po-debconf switch bug reports, Michel Grentzinger is at letter "p" going up in t

Re: User Based Init

2003-08-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:00:03PM -0500, Jerry Haltom wrote: > I'm curious how many "wtf are you thinking?" reactions can be gathered > for the idea of a per-user init.d system? > > I see this need a bit, for users who do development with various > services, but admin's not wanting to give them r

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Bug#207283: katoob -- katoob, A Gtk2 light weight multilingual BiDi aware text editor

2003-08-26 Thread Mohammed Sameer
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-08-26 Severity: wishlist * Package name: katoob Version : 0.3.5 Upstream Author : Mohammed Sameer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.arabeyes.org/project.php?proj=Katoob * License : GPL Description : katoob, A

Re: User Based Init

2003-08-26 Thread Peter Makholm
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > One can't start or stop anything that requires a port under 1024 (such > as apache) without root permissions. You'll have to give them those, no > other option. Apache doesn't require a port under 1024. By default it is set up to use port 80 på it is

[MAPS #60827] (rbl) Subject: Your details

2003-08-26 Thread rbl
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Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS

2003-08-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Steve Langasek | Er. You're going to hold NMUers responsible for the general crappy | state of a package before they got to it? No, but a package might be broken in other subtle ways because of the NMU, like broken build-environment. If you upload a package which doesn't work (even though th

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au): > Tagging the bug help is a good idea, but if it doesn't work the > responsibility is *still* the NMUer's to find some way that does. Not > the community's, not the list's, not the release manager's: the NMUer's. I undoubtly agree with that point..

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-26 Thread Philip Blundell
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 01:01, Adam Heath wrote: > Is there a debian machine I can access that has this problem? Yes. You can use vore, unstable chroot. p.

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:18:54AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > BTS Support for tracking when bugs were changed > > > - AFAIK, already been worked on > > > This will be more important when there are

Re: maintaining upstream snapshot package (was: Bits from the RM)

2003-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 02:25:18PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 07:45:26AM +0900, Tatsuya Kinoshita wrote: > > > In order to ease some of the pressure on unstable, we're encouraging > > > greater usage of experimental. [...] > > I'm a maintainer of Debian wl/wl-beta package

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS

2003-08-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Steve Langasek > > | Er. You're going to hold NMUers responsible for the general crappy > | state of a package before they got to it? > > No, but a package might be broken in other subtle ways because of the > NMU, like broken build-environment.

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-26 Thread John Galt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Fedor Zuev wrote: >On Sun, 24 Aug 2003, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >>Fedor Zuev, missing the point AGAIN, said: >>>I cannot see any connection between disagreement with anyone >>>opinion, and the right to censor somebody el

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS

2003-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 09:47:16AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Steve Langasek > > | Er. You're going to hold NMUers responsible for the general crappy > | state of a package before they got to it? > > No, but a package might be broken in other subtle ways because of the > NMU, like broken

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:53:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 05:34:54PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:10:19PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:22:16AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > > Quoting Martin Quinson ([

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:10:31AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > Quoting Anthony Towns (aj@azure.humbug.org.au): > > > > Tagging the bug help is a good idea, but if it doesn't work the > > responsibility is *still* the NMUer's to find some way that does. Not > > the community's, not the list'

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Sven Luther ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > And i i try to build a random package from source, and it FTBFS, am i > going to be responsible for fixing it if i fill the FTBFS bug report ? For sure, no. In the example previously given, I did generate the FTBFS myself by uploading a NMU. I indirectly

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:42:13PM +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > Hello, >I'm glad to hear so many people agreeing with the RM's plans and even > more glad to see so many things being done to make this seem plausible! > > I'm one of those developers who has cvs and other unrealeasable packages >

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-26 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:01:14 -0500 (CDT), Adam Heath wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, GOTO Masanori wrote: > > > It was reported by joshk on IRC, but I'm not still clear where this > > problem come from. Example: > > > > ultra30:~> dpkg -s libc6 | grep Version > > Version: 2.3.2-3 > > ul

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:25:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:18:54AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > BTS Support for tracking when bugs were changed > > > > -

Re: User Based Init

2003-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 08:24:10AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > One can't start or stop anything that requires a port under 1024 (such > as apache) without root permissions. You'll have to give them those, no > other option. > > You do have the option to go with sudo, however. Sudo allows you t

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:42:13PM +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > Hello, > If we don't rebuild every dependant package in the experimental pool, > we need then to have a way to eventually retrigger the build of every > dependant package once it reaches unstab

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS

2003-08-26 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:35:59AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Packages entering sid should be checked for uninstallability (caused by > depends on outdated libs) and a rebuild should probabily triggered in > some sane way (i.e. wait for the arch to get uptodate on the failed > lib and th

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Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS

2003-08-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > People still would need to build the packages fully to make sure it > works before it would be accepted, but after that, it will be fully > autobuilt for all arches. > > I guess the changes file would need to contain a flag or something to > make sure tha

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Mark Howard
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:25:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > So speak up Mark, what do you mean with changed? I meant identifying that bug X was fixed in version Y; packages in experimental contain the fix but sid and testing packages do not (yet). I think this feature would be even mor

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Sander Smeenk
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Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Sander Smeenk
Quoting Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > I'm about to close 95153, 133049, 158040, 16, 170580, 173331, 176223, > > 135603, 161659, 165107, 165135, 165351, 171190, 172529, 173663, 174506, > > 174508, 174509, 192401, 193544, 101725, 122689, 159575, 165126, 182280, > > and 189780 with a nic

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:17:48AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:42:13PM +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > Hello, > > If we don't rebuild every dependant package in the experimental pool, > > we need then to have a way to ev

Re: Translations sleeping in the BTS

2003-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:22:01AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > People still would need to build the packages fully to make sure it > > works before it would be accepted, but after that, it will be fully > > autobuilt for all arches. > > > > I

Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Daniel K. Gebhart
Hi fellows, What do you think about setting a sign [1]against Software Patents on our website? I think the time has come to get more active against software patents. Due to the directive validating Software Patents that will be voted this 1st September at the European Parliament, we have to prot

Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread christophe barbe
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 08:32:10PM -0400, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Source: gdesklets-data > Binary: gdesklets-data > Architecture: source all > Version: 0.13.1 > Distribution: unstable > Urgency: low > Maintainer: Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Changed-By: Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Daniel K. Gebhart
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:58:10PM +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SPAM doesn't get better if done for a "good thing". Funny declaration to SPAM. ;-) > (That doesn't stop me of writing letters to Members of European > Parliament e.g., but your mail is absolutly misdirected at d

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Daniel K. Gebhart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 13:50]: > What do you think about setting a sign [1]against Software Patents on > our website? I think the time has come to get more active against software > patents. Due to the directive validating Software Patents that will be > voted this 1st Se

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:58:10 +0200 Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SPAM doesn't get better if done for a "good thing". > > (That doesn't stop me of writing letters to Members of European > Parliament e.g., but your mail is absolutly misdirected at d-d.) Software patents do restrict wh

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:17:48AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:42:13PM +0100, Mark Howard wrote: > Hello, > > > If we don't rebuild every dependant package in the expe

Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread Sebastien Bacher
christophe barbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it a common practice to use this kind of numbering (without a second part > after > a dash) for what I presume is a debian-made tarball (multiple upstream > tarballs > put together). > >gdesklets-data_0.13.1_all.deb > > Also (related) why no

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:24:41 +0200, Magnus Ekdahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >For users without an internet connection Marc Haber maintains the >clamav-data package which includes a static database. As well as the >clamav-getfiles package to update it from a computer with internet access. And da

Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread christophe barbe
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:23:56PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Yes, gdesklets-data is a debian native package (ie: there is no upstream > tarball corresponding to this archive). Thanks for the explaination. > -n version are revision on a same upstream tarball, but in this case we > don't ha

Re: Software Patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Glenn McGrath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 15:05]: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:58:10 +0200 > Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SPAM doesn't get better if done for a "good thing". > > > > (That doesn't stop me of writing letters to Members of European > > Parliament e.g., but your mail is

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 05:18:45PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:03:17PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > * Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 09:40:02AM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > > > keyring.debian.org has only DDs in it. I think

Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:08:51AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:23:56PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > Yes, gdesklets-data is a debian native package (ie: there is no upstream > > tarball corresponding to this archive). > > Thanks for the explaination. > > > -n

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 15:20]: > Only those contained in the sections enabled on the users system. If > you have experimental-core and experimental-gnome all gnome debs > should be comnpiled against the experimental glibc for example. This mass-introduces bugs reports o

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 09:04:08AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:19:55AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > > We've been over this in debian-security before. I fixed the 1.8.4 > > package once, it got rejected, and I tried to have 2.0.x installed in > > Stable, but ofcours

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:28:18AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Quoting Josip Rodin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Oh and it didn't even want to start properly -- and the init script wasn't > > even so kind to tell me, I had to learn from syslog that > > Aug 24 16:57:23 hostname snort: FATAL ERROR:

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 08:59:06AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 03:57:45PM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > > > > Before you object to this rather 'rude' bughandling, please keep in > > mind that version 1.8.4 of snort, which is in stable, has 3 severe > > security exploi

Re: On packages depending on up-to-date data (was Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing)

2003-08-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 12:11:07PM -0400, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > No. New attacks represent security threats. Old attacks represent > curiosities, at best (i.e. have you seen any Redhat 6.2 rpc.statd attacks > lately?) > > An intrusion detection system that can not detect known intrusions is

Re: On packages depending on up-to-date data (was Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing)

2003-08-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:24:11AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > This problem only exists for snort packages that aren't going to be > updated, like the ones that reach stable. The unstable package is up to > date enough to have all correct rules, imho. > > The other thing is, snort.org's people

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 10:29:30AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Quoting Jamin W. Collins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > Before you object to this rather 'rude' bughandling, please keep in > > > mind that version 1.8.4 of snort, which is in stable, has 3 severe > > > security exploits, > > So, why

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 12:46:45AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Let's first start by telling that my backported packages never made it > to security updates that every good stable user should have in their apt > sources. The DSA just pointed users who actually read it to my p.d.o. > site. Would

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:40:10AM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Quoting Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > What are these bugs exactly? > > If i recall correctly, it was two memory allocation faults in the RPC > code, and one in the fragmented packet reassambly code. I assumed that you wer

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 11:07:00AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 09:04:08AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > > Actually that's not true, as an example I refer you to SSH. > > A stunning example of what a terrible idea it is to do this. Never said it was a good idea,

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Marc Haber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 16:05]: > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:24:41 +0200, Magnus Ekdahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >For users without an internet connection Marc Haber maintains the > >clamav-data package which includes a static database. As well as the > >clamav-getfiles package

Re: Your details

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Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 04:38:51PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:08:51AM -0400, christophe barbe wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:23:56PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > > Yes, gdesklets-data is a debian native package (ie: there is no upstream >

Re: galeon (not) in Debian stable

2003-08-26 Thread Joe Drew
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localisation français-espagnol

2003-08-26 Thread Beatriz Sanchez
Hi! I am going to be teaching a class on localisation from FRENCH to SPANISH. I would like to know if you could assign me any project to work in >From: gleu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Bienvenue sur traduc.lfs !! >Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:19:33 +0200 > MSN Search, le

localisation français-espagnol

2003-08-26 Thread Beatriz Sanchez
Hi! I am going to be teaching a class on localisation from FRENCH to SPANISH. I would like to know if you could assign me any >From: gleu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Bienvenue sur traduc.lfs !! >Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:19:33 +0200 > MSN Messenger : discutez en direc

localisation français-espagnol

2003-08-26 Thread Beatriz Sanchez
Hi! I am going to be teaching a class on localisation from FRENCH to SPANISH. I would like to know if you could assign me any project to work in class with my >From: gleu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Bienvenue sur traduc.lfs !! >Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:19:33 +0200 >

localisation français-espagnol

2003-08-26 Thread Beatriz Sanchez
Hi! I am going to be teaching a class on localisation from FRENCH to SPANISH. I would like to know if you could assign me any project to work in class with my students. >From: gleu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Bienvenue sur traduc.lfs !! >Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:19:33

localisation français-espagnol

2003-08-26 Thread Beatriz Sanchez
Hi! I am going to be teaching a class on localisation from FRENCH to SPANISH. I would like to know if you could assign me any little project to work in class with my students. If you don't work with French to Spanish localisation, could you please tell me where could I find proyects?. Sincerely, B

binaries provided by multiple source packages

2003-08-26 Thread Glenn McGrath
The following is a list of packages whose names are inconsistent with accepted behaviour (plz correct me if im wrong) To my knowledge if a package is provided by multiple sources, then a virtual package should be used. Some packages only conflict on one architecture, im not sure if thats acceptab

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:10:36 +0200, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* Marc Haber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 16:05]: >> And daily, untested packages are built automatically on gluck and are >> aptable from >> >> deb http://people.debian.org/~zugschlus/clamav-data/ / > >Add a debconf-ques

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:26:32AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Let's say i do translataion work, for that i have to build the package, > and notice that it FTBFS (at least on some obscure arch or something). I > then fill a FTBFS bug report, thus liberating me of the responsability > you want to tr

Re: maintaining upstream snapshot package (was: Bits from the RM)

2003-08-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:14:51AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > Hah, and Mark Howard wants to remove galeon 1.3 from unstable since it > is only a cvs snapshot because of what you said. I think maybe you want > to clarify a bit more the experimental use and cvs snapshot thingy. It's entirely approp

Re: Approved

2003-08-26 Thread support
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Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

2003-08-26 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Andreas Barth wrote: > * Marc Haber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 16:05]: >>deb http://people.debian.org/~zugschlus/clamav-data/ / > Add a debconf-question about adding this to sources.list? Maybe README.Debian is better. In addition one might add a reference to README.Debian to error messages compla

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Mark Howard
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 03:46:33PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > the system. (And, I don't believe that a proposal with so many changes > to the pool and mirror system has a real chance to be implemented.) Why do you need many changes? All the packages could go in the pool and you'd just need a fe

Re: 0 RC bugs == releasable quality?

2003-08-26 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:57:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 01:48:20AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > > Imagine a year from now. You're at a geekly convention. Someone > > walks up to you and says, "Hey, you're Mark Howard! I've been using > > your package in stabl

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:25:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > So speak up Mark, what do you mean with changed? > > I meant identifying that bug X was fixed in version Y; packages in > experimental contain the fix but sid and testing packages d

Re: Sarge+1: ideas for Experimental V1.2 (or is that 0.2?)

2003-08-26 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Goswin von Brederlow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030826 15:20]: > > Only those contained in the sections enabled on the users system. If > > you have experimental-core and experimental-gnome all gnome debs > > should be comnpiled against the experimental glib

learning to quote (was: NMUs applying sleeping ...)

2003-08-26 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.26.1026 +0200]: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 02:53:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 05:34:54PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 07:10:19PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at

Re: localisation français-espagnol

2003-08-26 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, first of all: Please don't post HTML to mailing lists. Apart from using more bandwidth, your mail are more likely to be filtered by some anti-spam or anti-virus software. > I am going to be teaching a class on localisation from FRENCH to SPANISH. I > would like to know if you could assign me

Re: binaries provided by multiple source packages

2003-08-26 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Glenn McGrath wrote: > The following is a list of packages whose names are inconsistent with > accepted behaviour (plz correct me if im wrong) Sorry for my ignorance but which is the accepted behaviour? i couldn't find anything in the policies and in devel-reference (just had

Re: maintaining upstream snapshot package (was: Bits from the RM)

2003-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 07:22:14PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:14:51AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Hah, and Mark Howard wants to remove galeon 1.3 from unstable since it > > is only a cvs snapshot because of what you said. I think maybe you want > > to clarify a bit m

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

2003-08-26 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 07:28:03PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 10:26:32AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Let's say i do translataion work, for that i have to build the package, > > and notice that it FTBFS (at least on some obscure arch or something). I > > then fill a FTBF

DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-26 Thread Chris de Vidal
Volunteers needed! http://debtoo.org = /dev/idal "GNU/Linux is free freedom" --Me __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

Re: Accepted gdesklets-data 0.13.1 (all source)

2003-08-26 Thread christophe barbe
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 04:38:51PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: > > Is there something preventing the use of a .orig.tar.gz tarball. It > > would be nice to see a .orig.tar.gz containing only upstream bits and > > the debian stuff in the diff, for review purpose and for bandwith > >

Urgent coreutils/libc6? problem

2003-08-26 Thread Jørgen Hermanrud Fjeld
Hi. I really need some help to solve this, and I'm writing to devel because i hope some developer have might have a good idea how to solve it. On one of my Debian servers, commands using gid hangs forever: ## touch /tmp/aFile chgrp 100 /tmp/aFile # Typed ctrl-c to abort However using group name s

Re: ITA freedict

2003-08-26 Thread Bob Hilliard
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you set LOCPATH to the equivalent of /usr/lib/locale, and LC_ALL to > the name of the locale you generate, you should get what you want > without being root. Something like this (mostly cut-n-paste from d-i > build system): > > # The variable

Bug#207415: apt-listbugs usage against master

2003-08-26 Thread Adam Heath
Package: apt-listbugs Severity: critical On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Adam Heath wrote: > I was noticing increased load on master. While trying to track that down, I > noticed a large percentage of requests(48k of 116k) from something called > apt-listbugs. > > It appears the maintainer has exported the

Re: DebToo: Debian, Gentoo-style

2003-08-26 Thread Diego Calleja García
El Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Chris de Vidal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Volunteers needed! > http://debtoo.org are you going to implement a USE flag equivalent? (note: I don't like USE a lot)

ITP: hypre high performance preconditioners

2003-08-26 Thread Adam C Powell IV
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist I intend to package hypre, which is "scalable software for solving large, sparse linear systems of equations on massively parallel computers". It provides high-performance matrix preconditioners toward that end, and can be linked with other software such as PETSc

Re: binaries provided by multiple source packages

2003-08-26 Thread Brian May
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 08:38:12PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > > apache-perl (apache, apache-perl) > > libapache-mod-perl (apache, libapache-mod-perl) > > wearing my apache maintainer hat, apache-perl needs libapache-mod-perl to > build and vice versa... shipping them togheter

Re: Accepted galeon 1.3.7.20030825-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-26 Thread Joey Hess
Mark Howard wrote: > galeon - GNOME web browser for advanced users > Changes: > galeon (1.3.7.20030825-1) experimental; urgency=low > . >* New CVS Checkout >* Moved to experimental - galeon is not yet stable enough for a Debian > stable release. Packages in sid and sarge will b

Bug#207433: ITP: spinner -- Sends small packets over a idle link to keep it open

2003-08-26 Thread Jesus Climent
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-08-27 Severity: wishlist * Package name: spinner Version : 1.2.4 Upstream Author : Joe Laffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.laffeycomputer.com/spinner.html * License : GPL Description : Sends small packets

Re: binaries provided by multiple source packages

2003-08-26 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 20:38:12 +0200 (CEST) Fabio Massimo Di Nitto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Glenn McGrath wrote: > > > The following is a list of packages whose names are inconsistent > > with accepted behaviour (plz correct me if im wrong) > > Sorry for my ignorance but w

cpu usage, consideration of others, apt-listbugs

2003-08-26 Thread Adam Heath
I was looking at the various stats programs(http://master/mrtg/), and noticed that for the last week, master's incoming bw, outgoing bw, and load, have been unusually high. After some digging, I found 2 main causes. 1: The apt-listbugs author has seemed it nescessary to export all debbugs data

Re: ITA freedict

2003-08-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 26, 2003 at 06:48:07PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If you set LOCPATH to the equivalent of /usr/lib/locale, and LC_ALL to > > the name of the locale you generate, you should get what you want > > without being root. Something like t

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