Re: packages mucking in /usr/local/?

Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 05:35:41AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: >> Gentlemen, do >> $ find /usr/local -mtime -222 >> /usr/local/lib/libxbase-2.0.so.0 >> /usr/local/lib/libxbase.so > > If those came from a package, they're bugs. > >> /usr/local/lib/python2.2

Re: packages mucking in /usr/local/?

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 05:50:07 +0200, Colin Watson wrote: >> /usr/local/lib/texmf/ls-R > > Those aren't bugs (well, possibly apart from the TeX one, dunno about > that). ls-R is an index generated by texhash, so that Debian's teTeX can use TeX packages installed under /usr/local. -- Best Regards

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Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

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Re: maintaining upstream snapshot package

On August 24, 2003 at 2:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Debian wl package provides the upstream stable version (latest > > version is 2.10.1-2). Debian wl-beta package provides the > > upstream CVS snapshot which reaches Debian release-quality > > (latest version is 2.11.7+0.20030814-1). >

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

[Followups set.] On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 03:21:00AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > I'd say that you have your priorities wrong. If we decide that > documentation is not software then there is no reason to waste time to > figure out if the GFDL is DFSG-free or not. It's not within debian-legal's pur

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 02:00:49AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: > The survey asks whether the GFDL _does_ satisfy the DFSG, not whether > it needs to. Did you misspeak here? Yes. I wrote that reply in hot blood. I didn't write my survey thus. -- G. Branden Robinson| Ye

Re: Update: Patch needs Sponsor - List of easily NMUed RC bugs

Goswin von Brederlow (2003-08-23 23:59:31 +0200) : > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Hi, >> >> I went through the RC bug list and collected Bugs with trivial patches >> and sorted them a bit. They realy don't need much work so if you have >> a minute pick one. If you want to

Re: What does that (from wanna-build stats) mean?

Op za 23-08-2003, om 12:53 schreef Joerg Wendland: > Hi, > when looking at [0] I see the following about my python-bz2: > > > python/python-bz2_1.1-6: Failed by buildd-caballero [optional:out-of-date] > > Reasons for failing: > > [Category: none] > > bug #181674, missing build dep on bzi

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Re: Correct Directory for networkboot clients

Am Sam, 2003-08-23 um 20.00 schrieb Petter Reinholdtsen: > [Goswin von Brederlow] > > Then it must be read-only. To the client and the server. No changing > > of links or hostame or anything in there. > > LTSP keep all the client specific files in RAM file system. The > NFS-mounted root is not wr

Update: Patch needs Sponsor - List of easily NMUed RC bugs

Hi, I went through the RC bug list and collected Bugs with trivial patches and sorted them a bit. They realy don't need much work so if you have a minute pick one. If you want to NMU any of them check the then currently claimed bugs (url under claimed bugs). Changes (~24h): pending (-2), fixed(+1

where to install additional kernel modules?

i see pcmcia-source and comedi-source installing the modules into /lib/modules/`uname -r`/pcmcia and /lib/modules/`uname -r`/comedi. my bcm4400-source and bcm5700-source packages install into /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net/bcm. Thinking about it, I argue that it would be better to inst

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

#include * martin f krafft [Sun, Aug 24 2003, 01:00:47PM]: > Thinking about it, I argue that it would be better to install them > into /lib/modules/`uname -r`/bcm since > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel is the hierarchy used by the > kernel-image and should not be touched by additional modules tha

Re: [Proposal] Debconf4 in Brazil

[Carlos Laviola] > As Michelle Ribeiro announced in -project[0] but hasn't garnered much > attention from the community, we thought it would be better to repost > this revised version of our proposal here. We're looking forward for > your comments on this idea. I do not expect to be able to find

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

also sprach Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.24.1353 +0200]: > IMHO the right location is /lib/modules/`uname -r`/net. So what about Bug#189297? Where then should comedi install itself? comedi drivers are for data acquisition cards. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read

Re: SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

* Branden Robinson > Part 1. DFSG-freeness of the GNU Free Documentation License 1.2 > > Please mark with an "X" the item that most closely approximates your > opinion. Mark only one. > > [ X ] The GNU Free Documentation License, version 1.2, as published > by the Free Soft

NUT packages status checkpoint

Hi fellows, Hope you're all fine, and that the summer is not too hard for you. Here is a small checkpoint about NUT (and related) packages status in Sid: 1) 1.4.1-pre1-1 is in the upload queue since yesterday. It closes all current NUT bugs but #196513

Snort: Mass Bug Closing

Hi, I'm about to close 95153, 133049, 158040, 16, 170580, 173331, 176223, 135603, 161659, 165107, 165135, 165351, 171190, 172529, 173663, 174506, 174508, 174509, 192401, 193544, 101725, 122689, 159575, 165126, 182280, and 189780 with a nice message telling that the bug was reported on a really

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 03:57:45PM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Hi, > > I'm about to close 95153, 133049, 158040, 16, 170580, 173331, 176223, (...) I object. > > Instead I provide signed backported packages on p.d.o which I will keep > 'semi up to date'. Still a lot of people use the outda

NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:28:55PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Christian Perrier ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Quoting Stephen Frost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > > > I, for sure, cannot hijack any package for which nothing has been done > > > > for translation related bugs. I would quickly en

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

Sander, in principle, I agree that fixing those bugs by backporting patches is not worth the effort, but let me suggest an alternative plan (which the SRM will hate me for, so you should probably ask him before): - Check which of those bugs are really fixed in the newest version - Upload a back

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 03:57:45PM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > Instead I provide signed backported packages on p.d.o which I will keep > 'semi up to date'. > > Before you object to this rather 'rude' bughandling, please keep in mind > that version 1.8.4 of snort, which is in stable, has 3 severe

Building kernel modules for stock kernels is a hell of a job!

Hello, After having worked with Debian testing for about 2 years, I'm getting fed up with the seemingly unnecessarily complicated way of building kernel modules for the stock kernels. I'm talking about packages like lm-sensors-source, the nvidia kernel modules (haven't done that in a year thoug

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 03:57:45PM +0200, Sander Smeenk wrote: > > Before you object to this rather 'rude' bughandling, please keep in > mind that version 1.8.4 of snort, which is in stable, has 3 severe > security exploits, So, why hasn't a security update been released for it? -- Jamin W. Co

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 04:51:08PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > Instead I provide signed backported packages on p.d.o which I will keep > > 'semi up to date'. > > > > Before you object to this rather 'rude' bughandling, please keep in mind > > that version 1.8.4 of snort, which is in stable, has

Re: Building kernel modules for stock kernels is a hell of a job!

#include * Manuel Bilderbeek [Sun, Aug 24 2003, 04:32:45PM]: > The procedure I'm going through is as follows (being root all the time) > > 1) install the kernel source for the kernel, e.g. kernel-source-2.4.21 > > 2) go to /usr/src and tar xjvf kernel-source-2.4.21.tar.bz2 Why don't you use th

Re: Update: Patch needs Sponsor - List of easily NMUed RC bugs

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:22:31PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > How do you claim a bug? How does/Can a non DD claim bugs? See my post to -devel-announce; and no, respectively. If a debian-developer wants to sponse a non-maintainer's claim (and will upload the fixed package for him/her), m

Re: maintaining upstream snapshot package

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 03:45:20PM +0900, Tatsuya Kinoshita wrote: > > If, as maintainer, you think the current way of doing things is the best > > way, don't change. > Could you, Release Manager, accept putting wl and wl-beta in > Debian unstable/testing/stable? If so, I don't change the > curren

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Where then should comedi install itself? comedi drivers are for data > acquisition cards. /lib/modules/VERSION/misc? -- Aaron M. Ucko, KB1CJC (amu at alum.mit.edu, ucko at debian.org) Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT a valid e-mail address) for more in

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:00:47PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > i see pcmcia-source and comedi-source installing the modules into > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/pcmcia and /lib/modules/`uname -r`/comedi. > my bcm4400-source and bcm5700-source packages install into > /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/dri

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:03:23PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Where then should comedi install itself? comedi drivers are for data > > acquisition cards. > > /lib/modules/VERSION/misc? no. that's wrong for 2.4+ kernels.

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 12:13:03PM -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: > Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > no. that's wrong for 2.4+ kernels. > > Interesting, as it seems to be the status quo; I have a bunch of > modules in /lib/modules/2.4.21/misc (from four different modules > packag

Re: Re: Building kernel modules for stock kernels is a hell of a job!

2) go to /usr/src and tar xjvf kernel-source-2.4.21.tar.bz2 Why don't you use the kernel-headers packages and use them as partial kernel source? They provide header files (including the complete kernel version) and the .config that belongs to them. Because for some of them it wasn't enough. So, to

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > no. that's wrong for 2.4+ kernels. Interesting, as it seems to be the status quo; I have a bunch of modules in /lib/modules/2.4.21/misc (from four different modules packages produced via make-kpkg), which incidentally all seem to load fine. No nee

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

Moin Christoph! Christoph Hellwig schrieb am Sunday, den 24. August 2003: > > > Where then should comedi install itself? comedi drivers are for data > > > acquisition cards. > > > > /lib/modules/VERSION/misc? > > no. that's wrong for 2.4+ kernels. Any evidence? AFAICS modutils don't have probl

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

also sprach Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.24.1806 +0200]: > the right place is /lib/modules/${kver}/${package} says who? -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and us

This is not a policy bug

reassign 206928 nullmailer thanks Hi, Firstly, a violation of a SHOULD directive in policy is a bug. Policy defines what the meaning of must, should, and may is in the context of policy, and developers are supposed to have familiarized themselves with Debian policy. Secondly,

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 04:39:58PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote: > > Before you object to this rather 'rude' bughandling, please keep in mind > > that version 1.8.4 of snort, which is in stable, has 3 severe security > > exploits, and is completely outdated in catching crooks (rulefi

Re: configure --host= breaks libtool ?

On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 04:51, Glenn McGrath wrote: > Im having problems compiling libextractor on at least ia64 and m68k > > On those arch's dpkg-buildpackage fails with > > libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration > libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag' > libtool hasn't fou

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Re: Debian

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 06:19:22PM +0100, Gavin Thomas wrote: >hi there, i'm new to Debian and i would like to learn Debian and help out >with Development, i have spare time on my hands and i would like to use >that spare time wizely, please can you send me some information. If you wan

Re: Debian

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 06:19:22PM +0100, Gavin Thomas wrote: > hi there, i'm new to Debian and i would like to learn Debian and help out > with Development, i have spare time on my hands and i would like to use > that spare time wizely, please can you send me some information. Make sure to check

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

* Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:28:55PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > Except what you don't realize is that one should never, ever, ever just > > NMU and then forget about the package. If you do an NMU then you need > > to make sure it worked, follow the

Re: Building kernel modules for stock kernels is a hell of a job!

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 17:16:25 +0200 Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > #include > * Manuel Bilderbeek [Sun, Aug 24 2003, 04:32:45PM]: > > > The procedure I'm going through is as follows (being root all the > > time) > > > > 1) install the kernel source for the kernel, e.g. kernel-source-2

Re: Hungarian DDTP on the Xth B'day

Hello all, On behalf of our group, let me express our thanks towards Nicolas that he came to our party - it was an excellent opportunity for us to get to know such a dedicated person! We are glad that he considers his stay a good time. ;) Yes, unfortunately Gluck was down for almost the whole two

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

"Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Aug 22, "Brian T. Sniffen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Additionally, whether the DFSG should apply to documentation in Debian > >is not relevant to the survey, which asks whether the GFDL complies > >with the DFSG: we can deal with the insanit

Re: What doing with an uncooperative maintainer ?

* Norbert Tretkowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMO if we do not get answers, Ryan's ignorance implies a simple > > answer: Hijack this package! > > Yes, as Ryan doesn't like NMUs, I decided to hijack gqview and > uploaded the new package to DELAYED/

Re: Building kernel modules for stock kernels is a hell of a job!

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:02:32 +0200, Manuel Bilderbeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > At the time I still used it (again, one year ago or so), this didn't > work out-of-the-box, because of the APPEND_TO_VERSION stuff. I see > this has been fixed in the meantime, in step 4 of the installation > instru

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 02:25:51PM -0400, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: > "Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Aug 22, "Brian T. Sniffen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >Additionally, whether the DFSG should apply to documentation in Debian > > >is not relevant to the survey, which

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

What I'm referring to is the excerpts of C and E-Lisp source in those manuals. They're clearly both documentation and software, even if you don't believe that text can be both documentation and software. I don't believe even the non-optional parts of the GFDL can be found DFSG-free (as a software

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

Stephen Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] >> > Then you shouldn't be doing an NMU on it. When you NMU something you >> > take responsibility for it temporairly until the maintainer gets back. >> Could you point the poor stupid monkeys we are to the relevant part of the >> policy or developer

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:38:33PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:28:55PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > Dude, translators already more than this. When I translate a package, I > > register to its PTS to check that my trans

Re: stack protection

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:40:28PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: [...] > > I agree, but writing secure (not perfectly secure) software may be > > nearly possible. > > I don't like to start flame war, but must mention djbdns and qmail. > > Yes, however they have less functionality than the alternativ

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

Fedor Zuev, missing the point AGAIN, said: >I cannot see any connection between disagreement with anyone >opinion, and the right to censor somebody else's opinion, so >angrily demanded by you. There's no censorship involved. *sigh* The GNU Manifesto would still be freely available from t

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

* Andreas Metzler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Parse error. I cannot see a connection between answer and question. Life's a beach. There's all of one line in the developer's reference which talks about your responsibilities when doing an NMU: "Follow what happens, you're responsible for any bug t

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 08:59:06AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > Before you object to this rather 'rude' bughandling, please keep in > > mind that version 1.8.4 of snort, which is in stable, has 3 severe > > security exploits, > > So, why hasn't a security update been released for it? Large

Re: Debian

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 06:19:22PM +0100, Gavin Thomas wrote: > hi there, i'm new to Debian and i would like to learn Debian and help > out with Development, i have spare time on my hands and i would like > to use that spare time wizely, please can you send me some > information. Check out the lis

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

"Noah L. Meyerhans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 08:59:06AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > > Before you object to this rather 'rude' bughandling, please keep in > > > mind that version 1.8.4 of snort, which is in stable, has 3 severe > > > security exploits, > > > >

Re: stack protection

"Milan P. Stanic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:40:28PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > Why is it a limit? We are not talking about making any of these > > mandatory for Debian users. We want to give them a choice of all of > > the above. > > I'm not against choice, I j

Re: Building kernel modules for stock kernels is a hell of a job!

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 20:16:21 +0200, horrorvacui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I don't. He certainly has a point, and I wanted to post a message > about this, only he was faster. I recently installed debian for a > friend, installed alsa and was completely helpless as to where to > obtain them. I t

Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 01:33:37AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Why don't you add an option to load newer rulesets and/or update > information to snort. Once a day/week/month snort you probe some url > for a signed ruleset or news file and report to the user about any > updates. > > Tha

Re: where to install additional kernel modules?

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 06:19:16PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.08.24.1806 +0200]: > > the right place is /lib/modules/${kver}/${package} > > says who? It's always been this way. However, before 2.4, modutils had a set list of directorie

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Re: Snort: Mass Bug Closing

On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 02:27:41AM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote: > (Essentially apt-get + apt-cache for snort rules. Clearly packaging a > single rule file within one package is a gross misuse of resources but > it might be sufficient if they were signed and hosted somewhere > sensible..) Such

Re: NMUs applying sleeping wishlist bugs about translation (was something else)

* Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:38:33PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > I'm not special caseing translations, nor do I feel they should be. I'm > > referring to NMU's in general. > > Maybe that's the point. Christian won't handle the same way non translati

Re: Building kernel modules for stock kernels is a hell of a job!

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Re: configure --host= breaks libtool ?

> Then go and read Henrique's excellent > /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz I added the following to my rules file from his README and all is well. # FOR AUTOCONF 2.52 AND NEWER ONLY ifeq ($(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE), $(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE)) confflags += --build $(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) else c

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 06:05:55PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Fedor Zuev, missing the point AGAIN, said: > >I cannot see any connection between disagreement with anyone > >opinion, and the right to censor somebody else's opinion, so > >angrily demanded by you. > > There's no censorsh

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