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Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Brian May
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:57:06PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > Who is interested in stack protection? > > I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack protected packages > for Debian. Probably the best way to do this would be to start with > ssh-stack and sysklogd-stack being up

Re: ftp.gnu.org cracked

2003-08-21 Thread Peter Karlsson
Scott James Remnant: If you read the script, I did, but I couldn't figure out what was the input. The only MD5 sums that GNU have provided are for 2.4, 2.4.1 and 2.4.2 Right. I sent them an update mail earlier this week, but I guess they're quite busy at the moment... -- \\// Peter - http://www.s

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 11:18:24AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, cobaco wrote: > > > I'd agree if there had been a rewrite of kdelibs or something, but > > > kde 3.1 -> 3.2 is evolutionary without big changes to what was > > > already t

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 14:56, Brian May wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:57:06PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > Who is interested in stack protection? > > > > I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack protected > > packages for Debian. Probably the best way to do this would be to

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:00:54 -0600, Jamin W Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 14:46, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 20 Aug 2003 10:51:54 -0400, Adam C Powell IV said: >> > >> > Greetings, Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a >> > pain, especially for newbies, w

Re: Binaryless uploads

2003-08-21 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 23:40:18 -0400 (EDT), Jaldhar H Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Since the source goes into Debian main, keeping the sources >> together means that we are distributing non-free material in Debian >> main, which not only violates

Re: Does anyone use barrendero, or know of an equivalent?

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Hello, > > The package barrendero is a candidate for removal from testing. It has I had a quick look at the BTS and it seems that the two RC bugs may be easily fixed (one is a missing Build-Depends on debhelper, the other an error in debian/rules for

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:16:05 +0200, Josef Spillner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >- the KDE release plan might be delayed (as well...) The sarge release plan _will_ be delayed. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | "

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Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
Martin Quinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Of course, I could (and have) uploaded my key on public servers, meaning > that other Debian member could check than a given mail with my address > desserve the trust they habitually give me. But those guys would have to > configure their email spe

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Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:56:31AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:16:05 +0200, Josef Spillner > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >- the KDE release plan might be delayed (as well...) > The sarge release plan _will_ be delayed. Quite confident, are we? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Xavier Roche
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Russell Coker wrote: > Who is interested in stack protection? > I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack protected packages > for Debian. > Also is there any interest in uploading a kernel-image package with the grsec > PaX support built in? grsec is IMHO

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-21 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:04:40AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Ok. Lets leave aside for a moment the .debs which would go into contrib > or non-free so would have to be built seperately. What happens if > webmin-squid has an RC bug? As Goswin said, all the webmin-* packages > will be held ba

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-21 Thread Brian May
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 05:20:42PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > As for the problem with the source file containing non-free code, > if you have prestine source code, this is something that > really needs to get fixed upstream :-(, eg. split into two > files. Looking at the other messages in the thr

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Jérôme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Quoting Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > > No he wouldn't. FDL is about free documentation. :-) > > > > > > > Except it isn't :-) > > > > According to you :-) > > According to deb

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:39, Xavier Roche wrote: > Major issues for a ro-/ are maybe: > - using devfs for /dev (kernel 2.4 and package devfsd installed) Devfs is getting less support now, it might not be the best time to start depending on it. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security

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Re: Transition: new PAM config file handling in unstable

2003-08-21 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
Hi Steve, thanks for the work. A couple of questions for clarity's sake (as sysadmin, not packager) On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 10:37:59PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > - Per-package /etc/pam.d/ configuration files should not include > explicit 'password' blocks. Instead, services should us

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread GOTO Masanori
At Thu, 21 Aug 2003 00:17:27 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > [1 ] > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:49:33AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 04:49:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > Also make sure to include some leg room if you depend on packages that > > > have a tendency to

Re: Binaryless uploads [Was: FTBFS: architecture all packages]

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > > > > > The only problem with that is the current failure to comply to policy, > >

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari MannsÃker
JÃrÃme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Quoting Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> JÃrÃme Marant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Quoting Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>> > No he wouldn't. FDL is about free documentation. :-) Except it isn't :-) >>> >>>

Re: Proposal: make kernel install easier

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:02, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Adam C Powell IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Greetings, > > > > Installing a new kernel package can be a bit of a pain, especially for > > newbies, what with ha

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Of course, the signature is not sufficient to get the needed trust. But I'm > coordinator of the french translation team since a few years, so my skills > should be trustable, I guess. > > But the point is that without the key, anyone can forge mails

Re: Does anyone use barrendero, or know of an equivalent?

2003-08-21 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Aug 20, 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: > But descriptions can be deceiving. Does anyone use this package who > could comment on its reliability? Does the lack of other bugs indicate > that the software is mature and stable, or unused? I am trying barrendero but don't trust it enough yet

Re: what about ip's

2003-08-21 Thread Ulrich Eckhardt
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Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Martin Quinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [...] > > Of course, I could (and have) uploaded my key on public servers, meaning > > that other Debian member could check than a given mail with my address > > desserve the trust they habitually give me. Bu

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Stefan Gybas
Russell Coker wrote: It sounds like we need a propolice enabled GCC. I have talked to Matthias Klose, one of the GCC maintainers, about this. He included the patch so he could built ProPolice-enables packages of gcc and g++ but he's currently too busy with other things. He might accept a patch t

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Heath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > > Why not? Just block binary uploads completely, and let everything get > > built by the buildds. I certainly plan to do that with my own uploads. > > (I've already set up my own buildds). > > > > I'd go one

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:22:38 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:56:31AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:16:05 +0200, Josef Spillner >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >- the KDE release plan might be delayed (as well...) >> The sarge release plan _will_ be del

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Xavier Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Russell Coker wrote: > Major issues for a ro-/ are maybe: > - using devfs for /dev (kernel 2.4 and package devfsd installed) Alternatively you can copy /dev to a ramdisk. And please don't use devfsd. That somewhat cancles out half of

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting "Jamin W. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This has been covered to death already. There are a sufficient number > of respondents that see it as non-free. The RM's recent post indicates > that possibly the FSF has even come around to the idea that their > license is less than Free. Can w

Re: python 2.2 -> python 2.3 transition

2003-08-21 Thread David Weinehall
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:37:10PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:34:12PM +1000, Donovan Baarda wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 15:49, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 11:44:22PM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > > > > The negative effect for the use

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Sebastian Ley
* GOTO Masanori wrote: > AFAIK, the unresolved difficult bugs are: (1) hppa build (2) dpkg > (setjmp/longjmp) on sparc (3) NIS (will be fixed?) (4) misterious > apache on ia64 bug. Note that (3) becomes ok to revert patches, (4) > may be non-glibc bug. Well, they are still something hard work.

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Miles Bader
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Devfs is getting less support now, it might not be the best time to start > depending on it. Indeed, it's looking likely that GregKH's `udev' will replace devfs sometime in the future. [It was amusing to see Christoph Hellwig's recent patch on the lkml

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Jérôme Marant
Quoting Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > consensus >n : agreement of the majority in sentiment or belief >[syn: {general agreement}] > > unanimity >n : everyone being of one mind > > > A world of difference. No, no, no! You don't get it. There

Bug#206537: ITP: horde-sam -- Spamassassin module for Horde

2003-08-21 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-08-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: horde-sam Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : The Horde Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cvs.horde.org/cvs.php/sam/ * License : GPL Description : Spamassassin module fo

Bug#206536: ITP: phpdocumentor -- php auto documentor

2003-08-21 Thread Juan Manuel García Molina
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: phpdocumentor Version : 1.2.2 Upstream Author : Joshua Eichorn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.phpdocumentor.org/ * License : PHP Description : php auto docum

Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Surchi
From Netcraft newsletter and web site: Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html I'm not so sure about the value of their Debian geographical distribution, maybe... :-) bye Christian -- Christia

Bug#206536: correcting URL

2003-08-21 Thread Juan Manuel García Molina
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-21 Followup-For: Bug #206536 As Thomas said, the right URL is http://www.phpdoc.org, not http://www.phpdocumentor.org. Thank you very much, Thomas. Regards. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel:

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Christian Surchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > From Netcraft newsletter and web site: > > Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html > > I'm not so sure about the value of their Debian geographi

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:59:30AM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: > From Netcraft newsletter and web site: > > Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html > > I'm not so sure about the value of th

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Alexander Reelsen
Hi On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:56:34PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:57:06PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > Who is interested in stack protection? x86 only? Pro police is the most platform independent iirc. > > I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack prot

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:13, Stefan Gybas wrote: > However, ProPolice has not been ported to all architectures yet, see > http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/statuschart.html > for details. Not being ported to all architectures is not a problem IMHO. Such stack protection should n

Bug#206544: ITP: nicotine -- feature complete client for the SoulSeek filesharing network

2003-08-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-21 Severity: wishlist * Package name: nicotine Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Hyriand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://nicotine.thegraveyard.org/ * License : GPL Description : feature complete clien

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 21 August 2003 13:36, Christian Perrier wrote: > I like "having a significant following in the former Iron Curtain > countries". So the two major "former Iron Curtain" countries seem to > be France and Germany.. :-) Well, part of Germany was on the far side of the Iron Curtain regardl

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Goswin von Brederlow | There is also another reason, not mentioned before, for source only | uploads. It takes way less bandwith to upload a diff.gz+dsc file than | to upload a big binary package. Bandwidth has costs for buildds as well. -- Tollef Fog Heen

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 05:52:32PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > AFAIK, the unresolved difficult bugs are: (1) hppa build (2) dpkg > (setjmp/longjmp) on sparc (3) NIS (will be fixed?) (4) misterious > apache on ia64 bug. Is there a bug# for (2)? If not, could someone forward the appropriate mai

RE: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Julian Mehnle
cobaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2003-08-20 15:33, John Goerzen wrote: > > tne pain of breaking desktops is no less when > > you consider how many more desktops we're talking about here. > > that's assuming that all those desktops crash at the same time no? No, it's assuming that all those

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Citat Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Quoting Christian Surchi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > From Netcraft newsletter and web site: > > > > Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today > > > > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html >

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Julien TINNES
> Who is interested in stack protection? I am. >I think it would be good to have some experiments of stack protected packages >for Debian. Probably the best way to do this would be to start with >ssh-stack and sysklogd-stack being uploaded to experimental. I don't have >time to do this, but

Bug#206576: ITP: livejournal -- The code that runs livejournal

2003-08-21 Thread Jay Bonci
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2003-08-19 Severity: wishlist -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: livejournal Version : 2003042200 Upstream Author : Brad Fitzpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.livejournal.com/code * Lic

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread rintek
Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:13, Stefan Gybas wrote: However, ProPolice has not been ported to all architectures yet, see http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/statuschart.html for details. Not being ported to all architectures is not a problem IMHO. Such stack prote

Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Marc Singer
Are we expecting the latest unstalble gcc compiler to correctly compiler the kernel? > gcc --version gcc (GCC) 3.3.2 20030812 (Debian prerelease) I'm getting a new error when I compile the kernel. In the structure below, it doesn't like the declaration for slot_tablen complaining that id

Re: Transition: new PAM config file handling in unstable

2003-08-21 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Langasek wrote: > - It will now be possible to choose md5 vs. crypt passwords at install > time without violating policy. (Currently, a number of conffiles are > being modified by maintainer scripts in order to enable md5 > passwords.) Actually making this process policy-compliant wil

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Paul . Hampson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:37:40AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: > > gcc --version > gcc (GCC) 3.3.2 20030812 (Debian prerelease) > I'm getting a new error when I compile the kernel. In the structure > below, it doesn't like the declaration for slot_tablen complaining > that > ide-cd.h:440: err

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Ben Collins
> __u8 short slot_tablelen; Isn't it just a plain error? Either it's a char, or it's a short. It can't be both, right? -- Debian - http://www.debian.org/ Linux 1394 - http://www.linux1394.org/ Subversion - http://subversion.tigris.org/ WatchGuard - http://www.watchguard.com/

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op do 21-08-2003, om 09:49 schreef Russell Coker: > On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 17:39, Xavier Roche wrote: > > Major issues for a ro-/ are maybe: > > - using devfs for /dev (kernel 2.4 and package devfsd installed) > > Devfs is getting less support now, it might not be the best time to start > depending

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Joel Baker
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:39:35AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > > I am only realistic. When in history did a non-trivial software > product meet its release schedule? > > I am surely hoping for the best, but I seriously do expect sarge to be > released in early 2004. Which is a pretty good track re

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Brian May
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:16:46PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Devfs is getting less support now, it might not be the best time to start > > depending on it. > > Indeed, it's looking likely that GregKH's `udev' will replace devfs > sometime in the fut

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Thomas Hood
> We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-) Sorry, but that insult doesn't put a winksmiley on my face. Please don't try to start a useless flamewar. They break out so easily on their own. There is no need to discuss this matter here; it has already been thoroughly discussed in debian-legal an

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-21 Thread Adam Heath
On 21 Aug 2003, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Doogie already said he wants to implement a smart comparator for deb > in dpkg 2.0 which would then be used to compare that different builds > of the binary-all even give the same result. This means you give the 2 debs(which probably only differ by d

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:41, Brian May wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 07:16:46PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > > Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Devfs is getting less support now, it might not be the best time to > > > start depending on it. > > > > Indeed, it's looking likely that Gr

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 05:52:32PM +0900, GOTO Masanori wrote: > > AFAIK, the unresolved difficult bugs are: (1) hppa build (2) dpkg > > (setjmp/longjmp) on sparc (3) NIS (will be fixed?) (4) misterious > > apache on ia64 bug. > > Is there a bug# for (2

Re: Latest gcc-3.3 and kernel compilation

2003-08-21 Thread Marc Singer
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:44:11PM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: > > __u8 short slot_tablelen; > > Isn't it just a plain error? Either it's a char, or it's a short. It > can't be both, right? That's what I think, too. It looks, too, to be something added in a patch because the indentation is dif

Re: What doing with an uncooperative maintainer ?

2003-08-21 Thread Thomas Hood
"Marcelo E. Magallon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Talk with the maintainer. Or NMU. Or make noise on -devel. > But don't "fork" packages. I agree and disagree. Talking with the maintainer works sometimes. Sometimes one is in a position to NMU. Sometimes it helps to make noise on debian-devel

Re: [RFC] Debian ruby policy (Re: Fw: Re: Ruby 1.8 transition plan; debian-ruby)

2003-08-21 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 02:53:12AM +0900, Fumitoshi UKAI wrote: FU> Dmitry Borodaenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> FU> libyaml-ruby1.8 (<- libyaml-ruby) I think that since whytheluckystiff is developing Syck/YAML right in the Ruby CVS, there is little chance for a separation of libyaml-ruby1.8 in the ne

Re: Does anyone use barrendero, or know of an equivalent?

2003-08-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:42:28AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003, Steve Langasek wrote: > > But descriptions can be deceiving. Does anyone use this package who > > could comment on its reliability? Does the lack of other bugs indicate > > that the software is mature and stable

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Jérôme Marant dijo [Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:18:10PM +0200]: > > consensus > >n : agreement of the majority in sentiment or belief > >[syn: {general agreement}] > > > > unanimity > >n : everyone being of one mind > > > > > > A world of difference. > > No, no, no!

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Stephen Frost
* Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 05:03:17PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > > I doubt a poor translation would make it into a released version. > A lot of poor translation get into stable, mainly by lack of manwork, but > you are right no offending translation get

Re: non-DD contributors and the debian keyring

2003-08-21 Thread Stephen Frost
* Martin Quinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Judging from the amount of translation rotting in the BTS, I guess some of > you guys react the same way, and I want to change this by easing this trust > relationship, if possible. Eh. Personally I tend to doubt it's lack of trust that's causing tran

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Christian Perrier dijo [Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:36:02PM +0200]: > Wow.According to this chart, about a third of hosts running Debian > are in France.. :-) > > For sure, several major web hosting and Internet Access Providers run > Debian hosts for their key servers herebut I think this gr

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 21, Xavier Roche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >- using devfs for /dev (kernel 2.4 and package devfsd installed) devfs will probably disappear. It's better to look at udev (which I'm packaging). >- transforming several /etc files as symlinks and moving them to some >other place (/var/etc ?

Re: What doing with an uncooperative maintainer ?

2003-08-21 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 03:05:00PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > But sometimes there are fundamental disagreements about how something > should be packaged and then it must be possible for two competing > packages to exist in Debian Says who? Debian is not just a collection of packages, it's

When to call update-alternatives?

2003-08-21 Thread Marcin Owsiany
Well, I know that in postinst and prerm, but when which argument is passed? I thought that "cd /var/lib/dpkg/info && grep -10 update-alternatives *postinst|less -S" would help me, but it did quite the contrary. There is a total mess! A quick summary of how it is called in different packages: - a

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:18:10PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: > We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-) Thanks for excusing yourself from the discussion thus. -- G. Branden Robinson| Software engineering: that part of Debian GNU/Linux | computer sci

Hungarian DDTP on the Xth B'day

2003-08-21 Thread Nicolas Bertolissio
Hi all, The main goal of this party was to translate Debian package descriptions. Unfortunately Gluck, where the ddts server is, was down quite a long time and installing a local server was not so easy as it was the first time I did this. The local server was up only a few minutes before Gluck co

Re: Monitoring RC bugs

2003-08-21 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 08:05:01PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > So, all mails sent to bugs with release-critical severities, including > acknowledgements of control messages, will now be copied to a new > list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Very nice! -- Jamin W. Collins To be nobody but yourself when

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Miles Bader
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:41:16PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > > Indeed, it's looking likely that GregKH's `udev' will replace devfs > > sometime in the future. > > Dare I ask the obvious question: what is udev? Why is it better then > devfs? It's mostly in user-space, lighter-weight, and more conf

Re: better make a standard for /etc/*/*_not_to_be_run

2003-08-21 Thread Thomas Hood
I retain hope that this discussion can end in agreement on the issue raised in #156161. Toward that end I offer the following interpretation of what has been said and finally a proposal. The original question was about how to prevent services from being started. Some packages employ a mechanism

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Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 11:18, JÃrÃme Marant wrote: > No, no, no! You don't get it. There may be a majority among the > debian-legal zealots, but we need a consensus among Debian as a > whole (which means voting of course). > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-) >

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Matthew Palmer
Jérôme Marant said: > Quoting Dagfinn Ilmari MannsÃ¥ker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> consensus >>n : agreement of the majority in sentiment or belief >>[syn: {general agreement}] >> >> unanimity >>n : everyone being of one mind >> >> >> A world of difference. > > No, no,

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:36:02PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > So the two major "former Iron Curtain" countries seem to be France and > Germany.. :-) Maybe they meant to say "Old Europe". >8-) /me goes to a priest to have the evil spirit of Donald Rumsfeld exorcised -- G. Branden Robinso

Re: FTBFS: architecture all packages

2003-08-21 Thread Ian Lynagh
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:39:00AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > I also like the idea of rebuilding packages with newer versions of > their build-depends (or tool-chain) when a buildd is idle. That too > would require a more automatic handling of maybe-successfull builds > that won't be u

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Pierre Machard
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 11:59:30AM +0200, Christian Surchi wrote: > From Netcraft newsletter and web site: > > Debian Linux distribution 10 years old today > > http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/08/16/debian_linux_distribution_10_years_old_today.html > > I'm not so sure about the value of th

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Philip Blundell
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:52, GOTO Masanori wrote: > My concern is (1) hppa build. If we can't get hppa glibc, we may need > to drop it finally... I don't think the hppa glibc is as inscrutable as all that. The main problem seems to be that Carlos is the only person working on the bug, and he is

Re: stack protection

2003-08-21 Thread Age Huisman
rintek wrote: Russell Coker wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 19:13, Stefan Gybas wrote: However, ProPolice has not been ported to all architectures yet, see http://www.research.ibm.com/trl/projects/security/ssp/statuschart.html for details. Not being ported to all architectures is not a problem IMHO. Su

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-21 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Wednesday, Aug 20, 2003, at 09:52 US/Eastern, Santiago Vila wrote: Will we some day consider seriously the idea of autobuilders compiling against testing those packages which do not need libraries from unstable to be built? If by "seriously consider" you mean "ignore all the arguments against i

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeu 21/08/2003 à 09:33, Jérôme Marant a écrit : > > According to debian-legal consensus. > > Is there any? John's message proves that there isn't any yet, IMO. I have trouble with the concept of another "nonono gfdl is free because there is free in the acronym" message affecting the consensus.

ITP: raggle - console RSS aggregator

2003-08-21 Thread Brian Almeida
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I plan on packaging raggle, a console RSS aggregator. "Features include customizable keybindings, basic HTML rendering, HTTP proxy support, OPML import/export, themes, support for various versions of RSS, Screen support. browser auto-detection, and more. Raggle

ITP: ncurses-ruby - ruby extension for the ncurses C library

2003-08-21 Thread Brian Almeida
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I intend to package ncurses-ruby, which is a ruby extension for the ncurses C library. It is placed under the LGPL 2.1. It's required by raggle. http://ncurses-ruby.berlios.de -- Brian Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> System Administrator, Core Messaging Systems

Re: better make a standard for /etc/*/*_not_to_be_run

2003-08-21 Thread Thomas Hood
I have hope that this discussion can end in agreement on the issue raised in #156161. Toward that end I offer the following interpretation of what has been said and finally ask whether we can agree to implement the reinterpreted #156161. The original question was about how to prevent services fro

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someone interested in adopting grub-client?

2003-08-21 Thread Gerfried Fuchs
Hi! grub-client is a distributed webcrawler client written in c++. The biggest problem with it is that it simply doesn't work, and I don't grok why. I'm not that familar with c++ and multithreading and don't know where to look for the bug. Furthermore it seems that on the search engine fr

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