On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:27:31PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote:
> I hate to start off my return to the Project this way, but I just can't let
> this one go unanswered. :^(
Perhaps not, but you could have answered more civilly. A triumphant return,
indeed.
But, if we must...
> On Tue, May 13, 2003
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:36:53PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:04:43PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 05:56:08PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
> > > Do we have such standard document for the original english description ?
> > > No, and there is
Please get this OFF of debian-private and onto -devel. Quote me
anywhere.
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:23:52AM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote:
Security should be important in the testing distribution.
[etc. etc. etc.]
If you want to see security updates for 'testing', then start preparing
security up
My 2c worth
Security should be important in the testing distribution. I think it's
fine to say that testing is not guaranteed to be stable, that bugs in
packages may very well be present and that you shouldn't run testing if
your not willing to accept that risk. I think it's another thing
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 05:56:08PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
> Bonjour,
>
> I am french and I don't regard the 'Imprimerie Nationale' rules as binding.
> We are still a free country.
>
> Do we have such standard document for the original english description ?
> No, and there is no dedicated te
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 08:05:29PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 01:27:45PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> > We have a similar expression in (American) English. It's a "tempest in
> > a teapot".
>
> "Storm in a teacup" for British English.
:-)
"Tormenta en un vaso de ag
On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 05:20 PM, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
Please get this OFF of debian-private and onto -devel. Quote me
anywhere.
Redirected thread to debian-devel.
If you want to see security updates for 'testing', then start preparing
security updates for 'testing'. It does not help to de
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:25:24PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> > The translation team. Any other scheme is flawed and tends to problems
> > (people doing the same work will collide, it has happened in the past with
> > translations and will happen in the future if the maintainer, and not
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:11:45AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:27:31PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote:
>
> > Can the QA team use an additional 5-20 hours a week of volunteer help
> > from an already-registered Developer?
>
> I'm afraid they can't hear you. They have their
On Tue, 13 May 2003 09:12:25 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Maintainers or developers do not have a say on how translations are
> done except for gettext sintax errors. If you do not like how a
> translation team works, but you do not understand the language,
>
Clay Crouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 10:48:45PM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>> That .sig is problematic beyond just its content; it is 12 lines long and
>> adds almost 1kb to each of your messages (probably longer than the contents
>> of many messages).
> Pleased to
On Tue, 13 May 2003 22:04:43 +0200, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Sure it is. If they believe that the translator is wrong, they can
> ask a trusted person of their own to review the translation. It is
> silly that people who do not speak a foreign language can have a
> judgement on
* (Denis Barbier)
| I sent a templates.fr file for cvs in #136340, which has been included
| in 1.11.1p1debian-4. I do not know if this file was included verbatim,
| but 1.11.1p1debian-8 did not contain any 0xa0 characters (in ISO-8859-1
| encoding) which were replaced by normal spaces. Now Tol
* Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-07 12:18]:
> On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 09:44:54AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>> But they *should* read the bug mail they receive, and I guess that was
>> Michaels point. If they don't read their bug mails they don't seem to
>> care about their package any
I see, if I wanted chmod 444 to stop me from touch(1)ing my files,
then I would have to give up
$ chmod 0 x; ls -l x
-- 1 jidanni jidanni 0 2003-05-14 07:38 x
listing my files. Ok, over and out.
On Tue, 13 May 2003 23:27:31 -0500, Clay Crouch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hmmm An ettiquette lesson before a "welcome back" and a work
> assignemnt, just because you find my anti-spam measures draconian
> and my filter bypass info in my sig to be annoying.
> Charming, to be sure
> Ple
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:07:16AM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote:
> Actually - I didn't suggest this. I suggested there should be some
> consensus on what to do about security problems in testing - my main
> suggestion is that packages should be simply removed and the user
> notified of what acti
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 09:55:36AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> * Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-07 12:18]:
> > On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 09:44:54AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> >> But they *should* read the bug mail they receive, and I guess that was
> >> Michaels point. If they don't
El mar, 13 de 05 de 2003 a las 18:11, Joey Hess escribió:
> Tor Slettnes
> mindi
> mondo
> smail
> xcdroast
> yard
> zmailer
> zmailer-ssl
I am the maintainer for those packages and I'm not MIA for the moment.
Please check your list again.
BTW, if someone
Hi,
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> Or do you send one of those obnoxious autoreplies asking people to
> confirm their messages to you?
FWIW, if they are only sent in reply to "spam status dubious" messages, I
wouldn't call them obnoxious.
I agree, though, that an auto-bit-bucket, which doesn't _at_leas
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 12:57:51PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2003, Martin Quinson wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:42:16AM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote:
> > >
> > > If you really believe that the apache description should be improved than
> > > you file a
Hiya,
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:25:49AM +0200, Héctor García Álvarez wrote:
> El mar, 13 de 05 de 2003 a las 18:11, Joey Hess escribió:
> > Tor Slettnes
> I am the maintainer for those packages and I'm not MIA for the moment.
> Please check your list again.
> Héctor García Álvarez <[EMAIL PROTECT
Hi,
Hi, I tried this already on debian-mentors, but maybe the right persons are
here:
I am considering going to DebConf 3. Now Oslo is not really close (I
live in southern germany), and being a High School student, I would have
to argue with my principal whether I may go or not during school tim
On Wednesday, May 14, 2003, at 11:22 AM, Anthony Towns wrote:
This isn't possible in general; when mysql has a security problem
you can't just tell people to (a) not use it, or (b) just run the
unstable/stable version anyway, in spite of whatever reasons they based
their decision to use testing on
Hi,
Since I while I am forced to shut down my Linux workstation when I leave
my workplace. And since then I noticed that every time I boot again, and
start my X, and open my apps like Gaim and Mozilla, the font used is
HUGE (Helvetica, 12px, or something), while I have set the font to be
Verdana,
Hi, Richard Braakman wrote:
> On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:15:44PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
>> They will complain about Debian, not about their package's maintainer,
>> when they upgrade to Sarge and the program they've been using is
>> irretrievably auto-deinstalled. :-(
>
> Does this happe
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 08:40:17AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > > > Telling them 'you do not speak french, so don't try to understand' is
> > > > not acceptable.
> > >
> > > Sure it is. If they believe that the translator is wrong, they can
> > > ask a trusted person of their own to review the
On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 12:22, Sander Smeenk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Since I while I am forced to shut down my Linux workstation when I leave
> my workplace. And since then I noticed that every time I boot again, and
> start my X, and open my apps like Gaim and Mozilla, the font used is
> HUGE (Helvetica,
I hate "inline" mail forwarding. It loses information, breaks programs
(inline-quoted mails typically get "From:" replaced by ">From:" at some
step), and makes things like signature checking needlessly complicated.
debbugs forwards some emails as inline attachments, notably the "bug
has been marke
Quoting Ross Burton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Since I while I am forced to shut down my Linux workstation when I leave
> > my workplace.
> If you don't want to start GNOME via gnome-session (you can remove the
> panel from the session if you wish) you must run "gnome-settings-daemon"
> in your sta
> I don't use Gnome2 as a desktop manager, eg. I don't have panels
> running, I only use gaim, which links against libgtk2. So the problem
> is where gaim (and other libgtk2 using apps) don't start some
> component that gnome-control-center does start to load my own
> preferences.
Just set it in ~
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:51:53AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> > If you know how to reach any of the people listed in [1] and [2] below,
> > please feel free to contact them and get them to reply to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Is there a mnemonic for that? I.e., does "wat" stand for something?
Chris Leishman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I care about security in testing, and I believe others do too. But I
> don't think the process should be the same as with stable releases.
> Testing should not become another psudo stable distributionit's
> for testing. So I don't think security ma
On 14 May 2003, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Hi, I tried this already on debian-mentors, but maybe the right persons are
> here:
The best list for this kind of discussion is probably debian-events-eu.
> I am considering going to DebConf 3. Now Oslo is not really close (I
> live in southern germany),
On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 11:27:31PM -0500, Clay Crouch wrote:
> *plonk*
> *plonk*
> Can the QA team use an additional 5-20 hours a week of volunteer help
> from an already-registered Developer? Could the Project use another
> Alpha autobuilder? If not
The Project always needs more help, but
On Wednesday 14 May 2003 13:22, Sander Smeenk wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Since I while I am forced to shut down my Linux workstation when I leave
> my workplace. And since then I noticed that every time I boot again, and
> start my X, and open my apps like Gaim and Mozilla, the font used is
> HUGE (Helvetica
On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 12:52, Sander Smeenk wrote:
> > If you don't want to start GNOME via gnome-session (you can remove the
> > panel from the session if you wish) you must run "gnome-settings-daemon"
> > in your startup to populate the XSETTINGS database.
>
> Ok, that sounds logic. Is this docum
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:07:16AM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote:
Yes, there are. But all of these loose one of the main reasons I feel
we even have a testing distribution - to have people testing it.
You are falling into the trap of overselling testing. Having people test
testing at this point in
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 12:07:29PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote:
>
> Your engagement for the quality of your package is really great. Only, I
> think that you are not responsible of the translation. I know that there is
> a lack in debian framework concerning this point, but it really should be so
>
Hi,
I can't seem to find the package that xf86config belongs to, but the bug
is as follows:
xf86config writes to /etc/X11/XF86Config, rather than
/etc/X11/XF86Config-4, which is the one being read.
Anyone know where this bug should be reported to?
Many thanks,
Neil
--
16 Channels in mode 4
I d
Joachim,
> I am considering going to DebConf 3. Now Oslo is not really close (I
> live in southern germany), and being a High School student, I would have
> to argue with my principal whether I may go or not during school time,
> so it should be worth the money and effort.
I cannot help you on th
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:04:10PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Why not? Testing would be my personal choice for running a desktop (or
> laptop) Linux, were I not otherwise involved with Debian development.
> The only bad thing is the non-existent security (I could live with
> occasional critical
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:46:47PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Unless there's a strong preference to keep things the way they are, I'd
> like to prepare a patch to change that -- so speak up now.
Many e-mail clients require the user to explicitly open an attached
e-mail message in order to v
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:33:00PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Hi, Richard Braakman wrote:
> > On Thu, May 08, 2003 at 11:15:44PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> >> They will complain about Debian, not about their package's
> >> maintainer, when they upgrade to Sarge and the program they've b
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 02:22:05PM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote:
> I care about security in testing, and I believe others do too. But I
> don't think the process should be the same as with stable releases.
> Testing should not become another psudo stable distributionit's for
> testing. So
Michael Stone wrote:
> All the complaints we see every couple of weeks about testing would be swept
> away if people followed this advice and simply didn't use testing.
This brings back the question I never got an answer for: Who is Debian for?
If only stable and unstable are supposed to be used,
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:46:47PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> I hate "inline" mail forwarding. It loses information, breaks programs
> (inline-quoted mails typically get "From:" replaced by ">From:" at
> some step), and makes things like signature checking needlessly
> complicated.
>
> debbu
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:20:20PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> Well enough introduction; my main question is: Would it make sense for
> me to attend Debcamp. Maybe my idea about DebCamp is wrong, but it
> sounds as if it is just a very large debian hacking session, so one
> needs to have somet
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:59:41PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:46:47PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> > Unless there's a strong preference to keep things the way they are, I'd
> > like to prepare a patch to change that -- so speak up now.
>
> Many e-mail clients require
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:30:38PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:04:10PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> > Why not? Testing would be my personal choice for running a desktop (or
> > laptop) Linux, were I not otherwise involved with Debian development.
> > The only bad thing is
Steve Kemp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> What kind of pre-planning is taking place? The idea of security
> updates for testing?
>
> Every time this appears to have been raised it's usually shot down
> very quickly; unless I've missed something.
Actually the last time (if I searched the arc
On Sat, May 10, 2003 at 10:16:40PM -0400, Morgon Kanter wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 5 May 2003 17:17:20 -0500, Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >I have read that Linus is planning to have 2.6 released before July and
> > >ha
Hi, Colin Watson wrote:
> Yes, and also it causes nasty problems with character sets. There's at
> least one bug filed, and I've been meaning to change it for a while now.
True.
Color me embarrassed for not checking the bug list before posting.
(#131881, for reference)
--
Matthias Urlichs |
Hi, Mark Brown wrote:
> Many e-mail clients require the user to explicitly open an attached e-mail
> message in order to view the contents.
IMHO, if your client requires more keystrokes / mouseclicks to open an
attachment at the top than to scroll down to some random place near the
end of a messa
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:07:16AM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 05:20 PM, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> >If you want to see security updates for 'testing', then start preparing
> >security updates for 'testing'. It does not help to describe in detail
> >what you hope th
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 02:20:51PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> I haven't seen it be shot down. I've seen people saying "the
> infrastructure's there, it's just that nobody's actually doing the
> updates", though.
Yes I've seen this mentioned previously also. If it's a matter of
finding peopl
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 02:24:25PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> Usually this is controlled by the Content-Disposition: header.
> "Content-Disposition: inline" should be displayed inline;
> "Content-Disposition: attachment" will often be hidden until explicitly
> opened.
Assuming the mail client p
Hi, Branden Robinson wrote:
> Is there a mnemonic for that? I.e., does "wat" stand for something?
Is that email address an alias for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
(ObTLA: mia == "missing in action")
--
Matthias Urlichs | {M:U} IT Consulting @ m-u-it.de | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disclaimer: The quote was s
Hi, Michael Stone wrote:
> All the complaints
> we see every couple of weeks about testing would be swept away if people
> followed this advice and simply didn't use testing.
So why is there a "testing" in the first place if nobody's supposed to use
it??
Sorry, but I think I agree with the propo
Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> However, I wasn't aware of any of the pre-plans Kalle refers to. I
> didn't think anyone had actually picked up this ball yet.
"Pre-plans" in this case means that two people (one DD and one NM) have
been talking about it "seriously." So, if you want to sh
Hi, Andreas Tille wrote:
> By the
> way what kind of school is it which has no holidays at this time?
Random factoid: The German sub-states have a staggered school holiday
schedule so that the Autobahn will still be somewhat-free _sometimes_
during these six weeks. (Seriously.)
Bavaria is last;
Hi, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> To the extent that the DDTP gives the package maintainer veto rights, it
> seems pretty clear that at least initially the DDTP believed that the
> package maintainer was ultimately responsible.
It's the maintainer's name and signature on the package, after all.
On the
Hi, Martin Quinson wrote:
> It must be so in French.
Sorry for being pedantic, but "must" is an overly strong word here.
You may have valid reasons for not using a comma-separated list here, but
French grammar certainly allows comma-separated enumerations if one so
desires. (Spoken language, for
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:19:08AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> There are already very clear statements about this.
>
> http://www.debian.org/releases/
>
> testing
> The ``testing'' distribution contains packages that haven't been
> accepted into a ``stable'' release yet, but they are in th
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:19:08AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:07:16AM +0300, Chris Leishman wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 13, 2003, at 05:20 PM, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > >If you want to see security updates for 'testing', then start preparing
> > >security updates
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:57:09PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Hi, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Yes, and also it causes nasty problems with character sets. There's
> > at least one bug filed, and I've been meaning to change it for a
> > while now.
>
> True.
>
> Color me embarrassed for not checki
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:00:17PM +0100, Steve Kemp wrote:
> I'm honestly not sure how much involvement would be necessary, I
> guess unlike updates to stable there wouldn't be so many controls upon
> the testing archive, and uploads could be made directly without any
> real problem.
There
* Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-14 16:00]:
> > Is there a mnemonic for that? I.e., does "wat" stand for something?
> Is that email address an alias for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
No.
--
Martin Michlmayr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
> Hi, Branden Robinson wrote:
>
> > Is there a mnemonic for that? I.e., does "wat" stand for something?
>
> Is that email address an alias for [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
>
> (ObTLA: mia == "missing in action")
Or should that be awol@
[Back story: this thread started because there is still a vulnerability
in the version of Samba in testing, which has been fixed in both stable
and unstable. Collateral bugs prevent Samba from propagating from
unstable to testing any time soon.]
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 06:22:26PM +1000, Anthony T
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:58:44PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> attachment at the top than to scroll down to some random place near the
> end of a message (depending on how large the close message actually is),
> you should switch clients. ;-)
Not everyone will be able to do that, of course.
On Wednesday 14 May 2003 14:27, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 12:07:29PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote:
> > Your engagement for the quality of your package is really great. Only, I
> > think that you are not responsible of the translation. I know that there
> > is a lack in debian fr
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 06:35:46PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> Yes, but this is not something that is clearly said. Many people run
> testing without even being aware that there may be security issues, or
> more precisely, that the security issues are orders of magnitude worse
> than even what is
Michael Stone dijo [Wed, May 14, 2003 at 08:25:45AM -0400]:
> >Yes, there are. But all of these loose one of the main reasons I feel
> >we even have a testing distribution - to have people testing it.
>
> You are falling into the trap of overselling testing. Having people test
> testing at this
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:43:10PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> I can't seem to find the package that xf86config belongs to, but the bug
> is as follows:
apt-get install reportbug
reportbug `which xf86config`
reportbug will allow you to look at existing bug reports (which you should)
before fil
Hi, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> IMHO, it is
> only particularly valuable for users to run testing when a release is
> approaching (at which point security updates and removals take place en
> masse).
Wasn't testing supposed to be a perpetually mostly-releasable Debian?
Anyway, a release is _always_
Hi,
Am Mit, 2003-05-14 um 14.22 schrieb Andreas Tille:
> On 14 May 2003, Joachim Breitner wrote:
> > I am considering going to DebConf 3. Now Oslo is not really close (I
> > live in southern germany), and being a High School student, I would have
> > to argue with my principal whether I may go or
[I only speak for myself, and not for the french translation team neither
for the ddtp, in which I'm not involved at all. Please flame *me* for what I
say]
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 08:27:02AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 12:07:29PM +0200, Martin Quinson wrote:
> >
> > Your
On Wed, 14 May 2003 12:07:29 +0200, Martin Quinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Your engagement for the quality of your package is really
> great. Only, I think that you are not responsible of the
> translation.
The maintainer is responsible for the package. And, unless the
translation i
On Wed, 14 May 2003 16:27:53 +0200, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
>> To the extent that the DDTP gives the package maintainer veto
>> rights, it seems pretty clear that at least initially the DDTP
>> believed that the package maintainer was ultimately respo
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:43:10PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> I can't seem to find the package that xf86config belongs to
dpkg -S `which xf86config`
xbase-clients: /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config
Christoph
--
~
~
".signature" [Modified] 3 lines --100%--3,41 All
On Wed, 2003-05-14 at 09:14, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> I've solved the problem for myself by just simply biting the bullet
> and using unstable. I either have gotten lucky, or maintainers of
> core packages have gotten much more careful about testing their
> packages before uploading, so I haven't g
On Wed, 14 May 2003 09:14:20 -0400, Theodore Ts'o <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> If that's the case, then maybe the testing distribution has outlived
> its usefulness. But if people feel otherwise, then it would make
> sense to think of ways in which testing might be able to be more
> true to its o
On Wed, 14 May 2003 11:45:48 +0200, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Hi,
> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>> Or do you send one of those obnoxious autoreplies asking people to
>> confirm their messages to you?
> FWIW, if they are only sent in reply to "spam status dubious"
> messages, I would
On Wed, 14 May 2003 15:16:38 +0200, Björn Stenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Michael Stone wrote:
>> All the complaints we see every couple of weeks about testing would
>> be swept away if people followed this advice and simply didn't use
>> testing.
> This brings back the question I never got
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 05:24:03PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > However, I wasn't aware of any of the pre-plans Kalle refers to. I
> > didn't think anyone had actually picked up this ball yet.
>
> "Pre-plans" in this case means that two people (one DD
On Wed, 14 May 2003 14:27, Clay Crouch wrote:
> Hmmm An ettiquette lesson before a "welcome back" and a work
> assignemnt, just because you find my anti-spam measures draconian and my
> filter bypass info in my sig to be annoying.
When such lessons are needed they should be dealt with first.
Quoting Mateusz Papiernik ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > I don't use Gnome2 as a desktop manager, eg. I don't have panels
> > running, I only use gaim, which links against libgtk2. So the problem
> > is where gaim (and other libgtk2 using apps) don't start some
> > component that gnome-control-center doe
On Tuesday 13 May 2003 07:31 pm, Brian May wrote:
> On Tue, May 13, 2003 at 09:21:33AM -0700, Keegan Quinn wrote:
> > On Monday 12 May 2003 04:40 pm, Brian May wrote:
> > > Also, just blindly purging packages can be dangerous, in some cases old
> > > packages will purge files used by newer packages
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 05:08:34PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> > IMHO, it is only particularly valuable for users to run testing when a
> > release is approaching (at which point security updates and removals
> > take place en masse).
>
> Wasn't testing supposed to be a perpetually mostly-re
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On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:14:53AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> I'm sorry, I am on a public terminal, and can't quite remember where I
> read it - But testing should always be close to a releasable state.
The key word being "close" to releasable (or "almost" releasable
> Is there a definition on what format I should use for that file?
If you only want to change font setting for GTK2 apps, try adding
line:
gtk-font-name = "Verdana 10"
Or any other font available for X in scheme
gtk-font-name = "face size"
Regards,
Mati
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:27:34AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, 14 May 2003 12:07:29 +0200, Martin Quinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Your engagement for the quality of your package is really
> > great. Only, I think that you are not responsible of the
> > translation.
>
>
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 10:03:32AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Figuring that a security upload would be preferable, I approached the
> security team and offered to prepare an upload. I was effectively told
> that this isn't done, and because it isn't done, most testing users don't
> have secur
Folks,
My most humble apologies.
It has become quite clear that the culture that the DD community
shares has evolved in my absence. My absence disallowed me to
evolve with it. The culture you now enjoy is not the one I left.
I truly didn't expect to be attacked on my first post. I also
truly did
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 02:18:04AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > Maintainers or developers do not have a say on how translations are
> > done except for gettext sintax errors. If you do not like how a
> > translation team works, but you do not understand the language,
> > tough luck.
>
>
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 02:22:36AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, 13 May 2003 22:04:43 +0200, Denis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> > Sure it is. If they believe that the translator is wrong, they can
> > ask a trusted person of their own to review the translation. It is
> > sil
Hi,
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 06:35:46PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
>
>> Yes, but this is not something that is clearly said. Many people run
>> testing without even being aware that there may be security issues, or
>> more precisely, that the security issues are orders of ma
Hi Folks
I'll be visiting friends close to Atlanta between the 22nd and
the 30th this month.
If some local Debian or Linux/Unix people are interested, I'd be
happy to meet them. Just let me know. :-)
Cheers
Mike
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