Bug#1102045: ITP: rt-extension-authen-oauth2 -- OAuth2 authentication extension (for Request Tracker)

: GPL v2 Programming Lang: Perl Description : OAuth2 authentication extension (for Request Tracker) This extension provides functionality to login to Request Tracker (request-tracker5 pacakge) using OAuth2. This package will be maintained by the Requester Tracker Maintainers Team.

Request for sponsor: New packages ready for Debian

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello dear engineers. I have prepared some new packages for Debian, would you be interested? These packages have been verified and have the confirmed tags. 1. vifm RFS: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1093235 https://mentors.

Re: Request for collaborators: DEP-14 conversion script (Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?)

On Tue, Jan 28, 2025 at 02:02:46PM +0100, Gioele Barabucci wrote: > On 28/01/25 13:57, Marvin Renich wrote: > > I strongly urge you to heed Colin's suggestion. Have DEP-14 _require_ > > that the salsa repo have HEAD set to the branch where new contributors, > > NMUers, and others not familiar with

Re: Request for collaborators: DEP-14 conversion script (Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?)

The "For development releases" section should say that > the branch for uploads to the current development release of the > furthest-upstream distribution handled in a given repository (typically > Debian) should be the default branch, as pointed to by the HEAD > reference. T

Re: Request for collaborators: DEP-14 conversion script (Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?)

On 28/01/25 13:57, Marvin Renich wrote: I strongly urge you to heed Colin's suggestion. Have DEP-14 _require_ that the salsa repo have HEAD set to the branch where new contributors, NMUers, and others not familiar with the project should be making changes. From https://dep-team.pages.debian.ne

Re: Request for collaborators: DEP-14 conversion script (Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?)

* Otto Kekäläinen [250128 00:04]: > I wrote and rewrote this script a couple of times in past two months: > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/devscripts/-/blob/main/scripts/dep-14-convert-git-branch-names.sh > > It's not exactly ideal yet, but it does the job. The name is a bit > stupid, and it onl

Request for collaborators: DEP-14 conversion script (Re: DEP-14: Default branch name 'debian/latest' objections?)

Hi! > > - because it is not easy and fast to migrate and if you do it you have to > > redo the local repository, if you are alone working on the repository it is > > not a big problem while if you are many it can create inconveniences > > IMO this is the real hurdle. > Migrating thousands (in the

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

(Sorry, replying to an old email) On Thu, 21 Nov 2024, Philipp Kern wrote: > That said: There hasn't been much innovation in this space so far - in a > way that was usable by Debian. Making builds something based off tasks > (e.g. in a pipeline) when a package is uploaded rather than diffing the >

Request For Insights On Kernel Security Hardening Practices In Debian

Dear All, We are academic researchers from Huazhong University of Science and Technology, China. To foster a healthier Linux kernel community and enhance the overall security of Linux distributions, we are conducting a study on kernel security hardening deployments across various Linux distributio

Re: Helping improve git-buildpackage (Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments)

Otto Kekäläinen writes: > Basically you can start by forking > https://salsa.debian.org/agx/git-buildpackage on Salsa and then start > hacking away on the things you want to improve. > > If you want to do Python coding, fixing this issue could be an easy > one to start with: > https://bugs.debian

Re: Epoch accept request for plasma-dialer and spacebar

On Saturday, November 30, 2024 10:17:57 AM MST Marco Mattiolo wrote: > Hi, > > I'm co-maintaining with Arnaud the Debian packaging of the plasma-mobile > shell and a few related apps, in order for Debian to be provide this > additional graphical environment choice on mobile devices. > > > Plasma

Epoch accept request for plasma-dialer and spacebar

Hi, I'm co-maintaining with Arnaud the Debian packaging of the plasma-mobile shell and a few related apps, in order for Debian to be provide this additional graphical environment choice on mobile devices. Plasma-dialer is the phone app, while Spacebar is the SMS app inside the plasma-mobile

Helping improve git-buildpackage (Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments)

Hi On Fri., Nov. 29, 2024, 15:20 Richard Lewis, wrote: > > Please also help Guido iterate on git-buildpackage so that it works > > well, is easy to debug, has good docs etc. Based on discussions in > > this thread there are a lot of people with misconceptions and > > polishing the docs would be t

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

Otto Kekäläinen writes: > Please also help Guido iterate on git-buildpackage so that it works > well, is easy to debug, has good docs etc. Based on discussions in > this thread there are a lot of people with misconceptions and > polishing the docs would be the best action item right now. Happy

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

> I believe that Otto's lets-standardize-on-salsa effort is fundamentally > a good thing. Let's help him flesh out the details. Thanks! Please also help Guido iterate on git-buildpackage so that it works well, is easy to debug, has good docs etc. Based on discussions in this thread there are a l

Re: Upload request: psrecord (NEW)

Thanks for the great tips ! I'll start implementing them, especially ty for the last cheatsheet bit. I wish I had access to that when I was starting out with packaging. Can you unprotect the debian/master branch for me for this project so I can start pushing to it again if you have the rights? I

Re: Upload request: psrecord (NEW)

Hi Alexandru! I suggest you enable Salsa CI for the repository. It will immediately reveal a couple of errors you have, and give you feedback when they are fixed. Here is an example of Salsa CI enabled in a Python package: https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/rdiff-backup/-/blob/debian/la

Re: Upload request: psrecord (NEW)

ster I can no longer directly push to this branch. I have the developer role and only Maintainer+Owner roles can directly push to protected. For now, I've created a merge request which you can push to master: https://salsa.debian.org/python-team/packages/psrecord/-/merge_requests/1 but for the f

Re: Program request (dosemu).

Hi Mike, dosemu is in the archive and snapshot. Rather long links I'm afraid! http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/pool/contrib/d/dosemu/dosemu_1.4.0.7+20130105+b028d3f-2+b1_amd64.deb https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-archive/20240331T102506Z/debian/pool/contrib/d/dosemu/dos

Re: Program request.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 09:19:41PM -0800, Mike Coulombe wrote: > Hi. Would it be possible to get dosemu added to Debian? For the record, dosemu was removed from Debian unstable in 2020, after 3 years not in testing. There is dosemu2 but it doesn't look like anybody tried to package that (it's als

Re: Program request.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 10:11:05PM -0800, Mike Coulombe wrote: > On 11/22/2024 9:50 PM, Hank Knox wrote: > > On 11/23/24 00:19, Mike Coulombe wrote: > > > Hi. Would it be possible to get dosemu added to Debian? A lot of > > > visually impaired people myself included still use dos for various > > >

Re: Program request.

Thanks Hank. I tried dosbox-x a few days ago and while it loads, it doesn't apear to work with Orca or Speakup. Yeah, I think dosemu-2 was the last version, but I thought it might still work. Anyway, thanks so much for looking at it and for the suggestion. Dosbox would be perfect is it worked w

Re: Program request.

I took a quick look at the Dosemu website. It hasn't been updated since 2012. I didn't look at the source so I don't know how much effort it would take to make a Debian package. There is a Debian package that might already do what you are looking for: DOSBox-X (https://dosbox-x.com/). Hope t

Program request.

Hi. Would it be possible to get dosemu added to Debian? A lot of visually impaired people myself included still use dos for various programs and to play the old text based games. Dosemu use to work with Speakup when I tried it several years ago and made an easy way to get dos support in Linux.

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

Philipp Kern writes: > On 11/21/24 9:51 AM, Simon Josefsson wrote: >> I support going even further: I think the Debian build infrastructure >> should over time be moved over to Salsa pipelines. GitLab pipelines >> offer a lot of transparency, security and reproducability benefits >> compared to

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

On 11/21/24 9:51 AM, Simon Josefsson wrote: > I support going even further: I think the Debian build infrastructure > should over time be moved over to Salsa pipelines. GitLab pipelines > offer a lot of transparency, security and reproducability benefits > compared to the current Debian buildds wh

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2024-11-21 09:30:12) > > > collecting stats from Debian packages, using for example data points > > > that 13573 packages in Debian have explicitly a debian/gbp.conf file > > > already. > > > > I guess those data points include how many packages use salsa, with > > various

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

Otto Kekäläinen writes: > Hi all, > > I published a complete rewrite of the earlier draft as: > > https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/12 > DEP-18: Encourage Continuous Integration and Merge Request > based Collaboration for Debian packages

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

> > collecting stats from Debian packages, using for example data points > > that 13573 packages in Debian have explicitly a debian/gbp.conf file > > already. > > I guess those data points include how many packages use salsa, with > various Gitlab features enabled. > > Since various Gitlab features

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2024-11-21 05:40:37) > > > I published a complete rewrite of the earlier draft as: > > > > > > https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/12 > > > DEP-18: Encourage Continuous Integration and Merge Request >

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

Hi! > > I published a complete rewrite of the earlier draft as: > > > > https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/12 > > DEP-18: Encourage Continuous Integration and Merge Request > > based Collaboration for Debian packages > > > &g

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

Otto Kekäläinen writes: > Hi all, > > I published a complete rewrite of the earlier draft as: > > https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/12 > DEP-18: Encourage Continuous Integration and Merge Request > based Collaboration for Debian packages &g

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

Il 18/11/2024 01:04, Otto Kekäläinen ha scritto: Hi all, I published a complete rewrite of the earlier draft as: https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/12 DEP-18: Encourage Continuous Integration and Merge Request based Collaboration for Debian packages If you

Re: DEP-18 v2: request for comments

On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 01:22:31PM +0100, Fabio Fantoni wrote: > Thanks to Salsa Admins, recently when I used salsa it went much better. > > While unfortunately I still had many cases where packages.debian.org did not > load the pages or took a long time, several cases still for wiki.debian.org >

DEP-18 v2: request for comments

Hi all, I published a complete rewrite of the earlier draft as: https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/12 DEP-18: Encourage Continuous Integration and Merge Request based Collaboration for Debian packages If you are in favor of having this as a DRAFT in the DEP

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On Sun Sep 1, 2024 at 6:14 PM BST, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > The discussion was summarized in a separate "Summay" email by me on this > list, and a comment in the MR (which merges the two discussions) and it > just happened that the next day it was also covered in > https://lwn.net/Articles/986480/

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi! On Wed, Sep 4, 2024 at 12:39 PM PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > > Hello, > > > Well, I didn't mean we should *give up* decentralization. I mean we > > shouldn't > > give up *centralization*. These examples are to prove centralization > > actually > > works and is quite common, sometimes ne

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On 04/09/2024 17:21, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > Hello, > >> Well, I didn't mean we should *give up* decentralization. I mean we shouldn't >> give up *centralization*. These examples are to prove centralization actually >> works and is quite common, sometimes necessary. > > It would be great

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hello, > Well, I didn't mean we should *give up* decentralization. I mean we shouldn't > give up *centralization*. These examples are to prove centralization actually > works and is quite common, sometimes necessary. It would be great if we could run the salsa-ci pipeline localy easily, in chroo

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

(Please send To/Cc me if you'd like to continue on this branch of conversation, I'm not subscribed to -devel, only digests.) On Wed, 04 Sep 2024 06:42:33 +0200, Jonas Smegegaard wrote: > Quoting Blair Noctis (2024-09-04 04:33:10) (...) >> > PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel writes: >> > >> >> What about dog

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On Tuesday, 3 September 2024 23.42.33 CDT Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > I don't say that Debian must work for jungle developers, nor that we > must all use email and not different forms of collaboration requiring > better connectivity. My point is that Debian *allows* collaboration > also without heav

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi Blair, Quoting Blair Noctis (2024-09-04 04:33:10) > On 02/09/2024 06:38, Richard Lewis wrote: > > PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel > > writes: > > > >> What about dog fooding ? > >> > >> for now we can setup a schroot and sbuild very easily and start to build a > >> local repository in minutes. > >>

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On 02/09/2024 06:38, Richard Lewis wrote: > PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel > writes: > >> What about dog fooding ? >> >> for now we can setup a schroot and sbuild very easily and start to build a >> local repository in minutes. >> >> But when it comes to install gitlab and the CI system it is another

Re: DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

On 03/09/2024 15:36, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: My information was based on what Salsa admin posted at https://salsa.debian.org/salsa/support/-/issues/395 Hi Otto, Thanks for that link, which took me nearly a minute to open! Quoting from there. Could we keep the issue open for now and only clo

Re: DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

Hi! > Hi Otto, > Until recently I generally found Salsa response to be adequate, > but for the last couple of days it has been so > excruciatingly slow as to be almost unusable. > > > In response, Otto Kekäläinen noted that the Salsa admins > > had posted about upcoming hardware upgrades and other

Re: DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

On 28/08/2024 03:13, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: ## Performance and Reliability Multiple participants, including Salvo Tomaselli, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues, Andrea Pappacoda, and Gioele Barabucci, complained about Salsa/GitLab being slow or unreliable at times, which deterred contribution. Imp

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel writes: > What about dog fooding ? > > for now we can setup a schroot and sbuild very easily and start to build a > local repository in minutes. > > But when it comes to install gitlab and the CI system it is another story. So > we rely on the central salsa instance. f

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

What about dog fooding ? for now we can setup a schroot and sbuild very easily and start to build a local repository in minutes. But when it comes to install gitlab and the CI system it is another story. So we rely on the central salsa instance. It seems to me that a great strength of Debian i

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

> My overall impression is that this is a bold attempt, but the document could > do > with some copy-editing to whittle it down, make it more focussed, and possibly > narrow the scope. E.g. perhaps Gitlab CI is too much in one go? Could that be > done further down the line in a follow-up DEP? I

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi Jonathan! The discussion was summarized in a separate "Summay" email by me on this list, and a comment in the MR (which merges the two discussions) and it just happened that the next day it was also covered in https://lwn.net/Articles/986480/ I am currently writing revision 2 of the proposal.

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Thanks for working on this. I finally had a read over it today. I've found the split in discussion between this list and the Merge Request comments hard to manage. It would help a lot, I think, if some of the MR threads were marked resolved, assuming the issues they describe are res

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

non-maintainer DD to > commit directly without merge request. > * Collaboration-Policy-Merge: yes > It declares that the package owner encourages non-maintainer DD to > allow merge requests. > (DD has maintainer right in salsa.d.o by default as you know, but > you can merg

Re: DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

Il 28/08/2024 04:13, Otto Kekäläinen ha scritto: Hi! While I intend to continue on iterating DEP-18, here is a summary to those who did not wade through the 140+ messages on the topic. Unfortunately, the summary itself is also a bit long :) Big thanks for your work and of other people that are t

DEP-18 discussion summary (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

ewed as a middle ground between the above options. * Helmut Grohne raised concerns about lack of consensus, saying "Given that there are at least two competing hosting options with similar adoption, I question the unilateral choice of one of them." **Concerns around merge request proces

Re: Request for IkiWiki NMU (FTBFS #1074727)

On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 at 13:13:51 +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > intrigeri's patch at > > looks good to me (eyeball test only) > > I would be very grateful if someone would be prepared to Debian-ize > it and NMU IkiWiki (due to be remo

Request for IkiWiki NMU (FTBFS #1074727)

Hi, intrigeri's patch at looks good to me (eyeball test only) I would be very grateful if someone would be prepared to Debian-ize it and NMU IkiWiki (due to be removed from testing this week); I am not able to do any Debian work at th

Salsa connection errors or slowness has improved (Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18)

Hi! In the DEP-18 thread surprisingly many (e.g. Salvo, Johannes, Andrea, Gioele) complained about Salsa being slow to load, or having connectivity issues. I am thus happy to note that the Salsa admins posted in https://salsa.debian.org/salsa/support/-/issues/395 a comment stating that salsa.debi

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

[resending to your correct address] Hello, On Mon 05 Aug 2024 at 06:14am +05, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > It's similar but different: I'm talking about workflows to build a package > from the repo (e.g. "gbp with gbp-pq and importing upstream tarballs"). > And yeah it could be a metadata field.

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hello, On Mon 05 Aug 2024 at 06:14am +05, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > It's similar but different: I'm talking about workflows to build a package > from the repo (e.g. "gbp with gbp-pq and importing upstream tarballs"). > And yeah it could be a metadata field. Just to note that once people are u

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hello, On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 11:29am -07, Soren Stoutner wrote: > 1. Debian workflows are too fractured. The project would be better if we > asked people > to standardize around a single (or a small number) of workflows. To do so, > the workflow > would need to be flexible enough to handle t

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hello, On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 09:19am +02, PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel wrote: > Hello, I like the dgit idea, produce a git repository for people who want to > use git and let other use whatever they want. > > Maybe uploading a paquage to Debian could push automatically into dgit. (maybe > this is alre

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hello, On Sat 03 Aug 2024 at 08:26am +02, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > My problem with DEP-18 is that people who have zero problem with using > git and are also not fundamentally against using salsa, but have > reservations surrounding *which parts* of salsa to use and the > consequences for related

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Il 05/08/2024 10:40, Simon Richter ha scritto: Hi, On 8/5/24 17:10, Fabio Fantoni wrote: currently you find such information from a simple search and/or looking a bit in the source, in the possible git in a few minutes only in part of cases, in many other cases instead it requires more time,

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi, On 8/5/24 17:10, Fabio Fantoni wrote: currently you find such information from a simple search and/or looking a bit in the source, in the possible git in a few minutes only in part of cases, in many other cases instead it requires more time, the possible contact of the maintainer, attempt

Machine readable contributor information (was: Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages)

Fabio Fantoni: Il 05/08/2024 03:14, Andrey Rakhmatullin ha scritto: [...] Thanks for reply, what I mean is precisely a standard field that points to a file, inside the package or even an url as already explained can be very useful in most cases) that contains all the useful information for c

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

that they often bypass Salsa… Would it make sense to add to the DEP a request that NMUs are started from and pushed to the default branch? Only if DEP-18 also includes an easy way to find the workflow used by the repo, which I'm not seeing there (which may be my fault). something like wrote

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

ten bypass Salsa… Would it make sense to add to the DEP a request > > > that NMUs are started from and pushed to the default branch? > > Only if DEP-18 also includes an easy way to find the workflow used by the > > repo, which I'm not seeing there (which may be my faul

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Il 04/08/2024 15:36, Andrey Rakhmatullin ha scritto: On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 04:15:33PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: one problem I have with NMUs in team-maintained package is that they often bypass Salsa… Would it make sense to add to the DEP a request that NMUs are started from and pushed to

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 04:15:33PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > one problem I have with NMUs in team-maintained package is that they > often bypass Salsa… Would it make sense to add to the DEP a request > that NMUs are started from and pushed to the default branch? Only if DEP-18 also

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On Sat, Aug 03, 2024 at 10:37:42PM +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > > 2. Standardizing around a single (or small number of) workflows will make > > some people unhappy. But that is an acceptable price to pay because of the > > general benefit to the project *as long as the correct solution is > >

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi all, On 03-08-2024 22:37, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: At the bottom, is it ok for a package to have a single maintainer or not? I have never wanted to be the single maintainer of a package, and here I am, I'm member of a bunch of teams, but most of my packages uploads (not a lot luckily) are f

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi! > I have three feelings. > > > 1. Debian workflows are too fractured. The project would be better if we > asked people to standardize around a single (or a small number) of workflows. > To do so, the workflow would need to be flexible enough to handle the wide > range of technical needs

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On Saturday, August 3, 2024 1:37:42 PM MST Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > > 2. Standardizing around a single (or small number of) workflows will make > > some people unhappy. But that is an acceptable price to pay because of the > > general benefit to the project *as long as the correct solution is >

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On Friday, August 2, 2024 11:26:01 PM MST Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > I imagine that some in the silent crowd hesitate to chime in due to that > lumping together the use of git and the use of Gitlab into an > all-or-nothing choice. I think you intended that reduction, for the > purpose of simplifyin

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

18 basically, I think that it might be better > >>> to add an option > >>> to formalize package owner's (single person maintainer) collaboration > >>> policy > >>> especially about non-team maintained packages under > >>> https://s

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

ainer) collaboration policy especially about non-team maintained packages under https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I will send merge request and send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. But it is not true that such MR is m

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

r) collaboration policy > > especially about non-team maintained packages under > > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. > > > > If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I > > will send merge request and > > send E-mail to bugs.d.o about ur

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

-team maintained packages under https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I will send merge request and send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. But it is not true that such MR is merged in timely manner. (Surely collaboration

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

n.org/debian/. If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I will send merge request and send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. But it is not true that such MR is merged in timely manner. (Surely collaboration takes longer time, I know.) If the package

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

packages under > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. > > If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I > will send merge request and > send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. > But it is not true that such MR is merged in timely manner. > (Surely colla

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

intained packages under > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. > (...) > If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I > will send merge request and > send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. > But it is not true that such MR is merged in tim

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

y about non-team maintained packages under > > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/. > > > (...) > > > If such a package repository enables merge request feature, then I > > will send merge request and > > send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. > &g

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

merge request feature, then I will send merge request and send E-mail to bugs.d.o about url of the MR to notify it. But it is not true that such MR is merged in timely manner. (Surely collaboration takes longer time, I know.) If the package owner expresses a collaboration policy in advance, i

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Il 03/08/2024 01:28, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Quoting Fabio Fantoni (2024-08-02 23:51:26) Il 02/08/2024 15:49, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: I think that both email and systems like salsa/github/gitlab etc. are useful, both with pros and cons. Forcing people to use only one or the other coul

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hello, I like the dgit idea, produce a git repository for people who want to use git and let other use whatever they want. Maybe uploading a paquage to Debian could push automatically into dgit. (maybe this is already the case) Is it possible then to mirror this dgit repository in salsa ? Fred

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

thank you for your initiative, > > one problem I have with NMUs in team-maintained package is that they > often bypass Salsa… Would it make sense to add to the DEP a request > that NMUs are started from and pushed to the default branch? +1 Regardless of what VCS is used, an NMU that bypa

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

e, one problem I have with NMUs in team-maintained package is that they often bypass Salsa… Would it make sense to add to the DEP a request that NMUs are started from and pushed to the default branch? Have a nice week-end, Charles -- Charles Plessy Nagahama, Yomitan, Oki

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 2:26 PM Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > My problem with DEP-18 is that people who have zero problem with using > git and are also not fundamentally against using salsa, but have > reservations surrounding *which parts* of salsa to use and the > consequences for related already u

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2024-08-03 06:38:38) > > I am not suggesting salsa use because I think it's the best thing since the > > invention of sliced bread. But personally, I rather use something > > suboptimal if > > it means that we can more or less agree on a "default" and I think that the > >

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi, On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 at 16:27, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues wrote: > Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2024-08-02 17:23:51) > > I agree that Salsa is sometimes a bit sluggish > > (https://salsa.debian.org/salsa/support/-/issues/395), > > what kind of hardware do you have? For people like me who are

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Quoting Fabio Fantoni (2024-08-02 23:51:26) > Il 02/08/2024 15:49, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: > >> I think that both email and systems like salsa/github/gitlab etc. are > >> useful, both with pros and cons. Forcing people to use only one or the > >> other could be counterproductive at the moment.

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi, Quoting Otto Kekäläinen (2024-08-02 17:23:51) > I agree that Salsa is sometimes a bit sluggish > (https://salsa.debian.org/salsa/support/-/issues/395), what kind of hardware do you have? For people like me who are on slower hardware, the web experience is absolutely not funny and "a bit slugg

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Il 02/08/2024 15:49, Jonas Smedegaard ha scritto: Hi Fabio, Quoting Fabio Fantoni (2024-08-02 14:31:04) One particular thing noticed in some cases (and I hope they are not many) is the lack of use or especially updates of the Vcs-* fields in d/control. I think is important point to packaging re

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi! On Fri, 2 Aug 2024 at 02:27, Andrea Pappacoda wrote: .. > Before a certain way of doing things can be mandated or "warmly > recommended", the technology has to be as flawless as possible - and > today I wouldn't call Salsa "flawless", would you? Issues with > Salsa/GitLab: > > 1. It is so slo

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi Fabio, Quoting Fabio Fantoni (2024-08-02 14:31:04) > One particular thing noticed in some cases (and I hope they are not > many) is the lack of use or especially updates of the Vcs-* fields in > d/control. I think is important point to packaging repository from the > tracker if present and t

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Il 02/08/2024 11:20, Andrea Pappacoda ha scritto: Hi Otto, and all the others participating in this thread :) Il giorno sab 27 lug 2024 alle 15:38:40 -07:00:00, Otto Kekäläinen ha scritto: I have drafted a new DEP at https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/8 titled "DEP-18: E

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On 02/08/2024 06:38, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: > Also, there's IRC/matrix for more real time communication, but I challenge > you > to follow those long threads on d-devel on something like teams or slack. Discourse. Or some other "forum" software. IMO online forums and mailing lists are pretty simi

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

On 02/08/24 11:20, Andrea Pappacoda wrote: Issues with Salsa/GitLab: 1. It is so slow that it makes me want to close by browser and do something else instead [...] 5. Did I mention how slow it is? Just as a side note: yes, salsa.d.o/GitLab is not the snappiest Web application ever and somet

Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Hi Otto, and all the others participating in this thread :) Il giorno sab 27 lug 2024 alle 15:38:40 -07:00:00, Otto Kekäläinen ha scritto: I have drafted a new DEP at https://salsa.debian.org/dep-team/deps/-/merge_requests/8 titled "DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian package

Re: Re: Request for feedback on draft: DEP-18: Enable true open collaboration on all Debian packages

Quoting Salvo Tomaselli (2024-08-02 00:38:15) > > saying out loud phrases such as "The only right way to > > collaborate is reading and writing emails is in my terminal" > > Please. This feels like trolling. > > You're literally making up a quote and then you reply to it. > > Nobody said that.

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