Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:08:08 +1200, Nigel Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On 08/06/05, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [Nigel Jones] >> > if "coreutils" is made absolutely dependant on libselinux1, then >> > the user gets no choice... >> >> One think is depending on the librar

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:44:30PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote: > It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use selinux, wrong. completely wrong. in the debian kernel builds (as arranged i believe by manoj), the default option for the selinux kernel module is "selinux=0". that

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-09 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 juin 2005 à 17:43 +1200, Nigel Jones a écrit : > > Did you know that all Debian kernels now have SELinux compiled in? > Yeah, thankfully, I build my own kernels... It seems that for many people, building your own kernel is still considered as a proof of virility. Great. > >

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Nigel Jones
On 09/06/05, Manoj Srivastava va, manoj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:44:30 +1200, Nigel Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use > > selinux, > > Where on earth did you get that idea? The goal is to make it >

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 22:44:30 +1200, Nigel Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use > selinux, Where on earth did you get that idea? The goal is to make it _feasible_ for people to run SELinux on Etch by configuring boot > so couldn

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
ired" package? >> > >> > the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent on >> > this one thing happening. >> > >> > no libselinux1="Required", no debian/selinux [all dependent >> > packages e.g. coreutils

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Stephen Frost
* Thijs Kinkhorst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Wed, June 8, 2005 12:50, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > In RedHat, using selinux is a run time option. If one don't want to use > it, > > all one need to do is update a config file and reboot. I'm sure can get > > something similar working in Debi

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, June 8, 2005 12:50, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > In RedHat, using selinux is a run time option. If one don't want to use it, > all one need to do is update a config file and reboot. I'm sure can get > something similar working in Debian. If it's not necessary for basic operation of the p

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Nigel Jones | Hmmm, I can see your point, BUT, if a user is not going to use selinux | at all, then what is the use of downloading extra dependencies that | you don't need. I thought that a feature of APT was that it makes you | only download the libraries that you need/use. Yes, and coreutil

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Nigel Jones
On 08/06/05, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [Nigel Jones] > > if "coreutils" is made absolutely dependant on libselinux1, then the > > user gets no choice... > > One think is depending on the library, another is actually using > selinux. Your objection to use selinux might have

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Nigel Jones] > if "coreutils" is made absolutely dependant on libselinux1, then the > user gets no choice... One think is depending on the library, another is actually using selinux. Your objection to use selinux might have some merit, but your objection to have a package depend on libselinux1 d

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Nigel Jones
It's been implied that people will be basicly *forced* to use selinux, so couldn't it be easier to have a coreutils-selinux package on the side? just like how the kernel team maintain a couple different branches of the kernel at the same time. There are people that *REFUSE* to use selinux (persona

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-08 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:56:17PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote: > * Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > last time i spoke to him [name forgotten] the maintainer > > of coreutils would not accept the coreutils patches - > > already completed and demonstrated as working and

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-07 Thread Stephen Frost
* Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > last time i spoke to him [name forgotten] the maintainer > of coreutils would not accept the coreutils patches - > already completed and demonstrated as working and sitting on > http://selinux.lemuria.org/newselinux - because libselinu

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-07 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> > on this one thing happening. > > > > no libselinux1="Required", no debian/selinux [all dependent packages > > e.g. coreutils will be "policy violations"]. > > Uhhh, it's the other way around. Get coreutils to Depend on libselinux1 > and it'll

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050607 02:01]: > any progress on making libselinux1 a "Required" package? > > the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent > on this one thing happening. > > no libselinux1="Required", no

Re: libselinux1 - required

2005-06-06 Thread Stephen Frost
* Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > any progress on making libselinux1 a "Required" package? > > the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent > on this one thing happening. > > no libselinux1="Required", no debian

libselinux1 - required

2005-06-06 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
hi, any progress on making libselinux1 a "Required" package? the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent on this one thing happening. no libselinux1="Required", no debian/selinux [all dependent packages e.g. coreutils will be "policy violations"