Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-21 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> You can disagree with this approach. However, in my 10+ experience > setting up security gateways for Internet traffic (mostly for > HTTP/FTP/SMTP) I've seen only a few vulnerabilities in the gateways > themselves. Many of the gateways I have deployed are either network > appliances with a Commo

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-20 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino
On 18 October 2013 12:41, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> I have to join Marc here and say "me too". In my organisation we >> actually have those controls in place (antivirus/antimalware) in the >> Internet gateways and we do not disable them for specific traffic >> flows unless a detailed risk analysis

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-19 Thread Jonathan Dowland
> > It's not difficult if you reject the requirement of being DOS[0] executable: I meant ending up with something byte-for-byte identical. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-18 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Jonathan Dowland , 2013-10-18, 08:55: Someone should reimplement eicar under a clear license using clean room techniques. I may do so if I find time. It's not difficult if you reject the requirement of being DOS[0] executable: echo$IFS'Free-Antivirus-Test-File'|tr$IFS'-'$IFS"$IFS" The hard

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I have to join Marc here and say "me too". In my organisation we > actually have those controls in place (antivirus/antimalware) in the > Internet gateways and we do not disable them for specific traffic > flows unless a detailed risk analysis has been done (and approved). Personally I disagree

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On 17 Oct 2013, at 19:21, Javier Fernandez-Sanguino wrote: >> eicar.com does not have a distributable license. > > Neither does the virus discussed in this thread (Win32.Worm.Mytob.EF) > included in libmail-deliverystatus-bounceparser-perl. Good point, I agree it should be removed on that bas

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-17 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino
On 16 October 2013 10:56, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst" > wrote: >>I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature for >>its purposes. > > eicar.com does not have a distributable license. Neither does the virus discussed in this t

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-17 Thread Javier Fernandez-Sanguino
On 16 October 2013 11:12, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:54:36 +0200, Dominik George > wrote: >>> Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner >>> while >>> downloading. >> >>Using a gateway anti-virus scanner for downloads from the Debian archive >>seems a

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-17 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, October 16, 2013 10:56, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst" > wrote: >>I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature for >>its purposes. > > eicar.com does not have a distributable license. I doubt that's relevant, because the

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 20:17:53 +, "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: >On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:12:47AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:54:36 +0200, Dominik George >> wrote: >> >> Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner >> >> while >> >> downloading.

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:12:47AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:54:36 +0200, Dominik George > wrote: > >> Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner > >> while > >> downloading. > > > >Using a gateway anti-virus scanner for downloads from the Debi

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 12:59:33 +0200, Dominik George wrote: >Marc Haber schrieb: >>On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst" >> wrote: >>>I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature >>for >>>its purposes. >> >>eicar.com does not have a distributable license. >

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 01:11:01PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > Looking at it as code, it is a 16-bit DOS Hello world-program. Not > copyrightable, I suppose. I do not want EICAR to be copywritable, but I reckon it probably is. A surprising amount of work went into developing EICAR: it's a valid

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Dominik George
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dominik George schrieb: >I do not think it is actually copyrightable software. It is a string >that was agreed in to trigger antivirus scanners, so it is more or less >a protocol. Consider the downloads at eicar.com reference >implementations. Loo

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Dominik George
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Marc Haber schrieb: >On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst" > wrote: >>I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature >for >>its purposes. > >eicar.com does not have a distributable license. I do not think it

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst" wrote: >I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature for >its purposes. eicar.com does not have a distributable license. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! -

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-16 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:54:36 +0200, Dominik George wrote: >> Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner while >> downloading. > >Using a gateway anti-virus scanner for downloads from the Debian archive >seems a bit inappropriate, well, paranoid. Checking the signed has

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Jarkko Palviainen f-secure.com> writes: > I looked into one of these, libmail-deliverystatus-bounceparser- > perl_1.531.orig.tar.gz, and found multipart email file containing zip > attachment. Inside this archive is a .pif file (PE32 executable for MS Windows) > which is detected as Win32.Worm.My

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, October 15, 2013 14:09, Dominique Dumont wrote: > In libmail-deliverystatus-bounceparser-perl case, the virus is used on the > non-regressions test which are shipped in the original tarball (and in > Debian *source* package). This virus is *not* shipped in Debian binary > package. I'm stil

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

2013-10-15 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Tuesday 15 October 2013 13:19:38 Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > > It isn't a false positive in that regard that the package *does* in fact > > contain the virus sample. However, it *is* a false positive, as the > > sample is there intentionally, and no virus scanner can guess the reason > > why it is