Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-12-02 Thread John Lines
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +, Wookey wrote: > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: > > > I think this is a worthy technical goal. Given the decade it has > taken for Fredombox to get this far I suspect the pandemic will be > over before we get something working at a reasonably numpty

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Lines (2020-11-23 11:03:19) > Mail is one of the first target applications for a Simple Organisation > Server - I have just installed Postfix on my sample server, and now I > want to integrate it with LDAP, both for forwarding (aliases in LDAP) > and local delivery (into Dovecot with R

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-23 Thread John Lines
> > > I find the name "Small Organisation" a bit misleading. In my > > experience, often even > > massive companies and universities need small, easily deployed > > services that are > > maintained independently from the core infrastructure. > > Sometimes it is to serve remote offices with limit

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-23 Thread John Lines
> > > You may all also find it useful to look at debian-edu which has > > some > > similar ideas. If you do want to put together something new, it's > > possible that a melting together of ideas from Freedombox / Debian- > > Edu > > and other projects will give you a better starting point. > >

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-23 Thread John Lines
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 17:28 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > You may all also find it useful to look at debian-edu which has some > similar > ideas. If you do want to put together something new, it's possible > that a > melting together of ideas from Freedombox / Debian-Edu and other > proje

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-23 Thread John Lines
On Fri, 2020-11-20 at 14:37 +, Federico Ceratto wrote: > As Joseph pointed out, the use-case for the Small Organisation Server > is practically > the same as FreedomBox, either installed from image or with "apt > install freedombox". > I think the key differences are: 1) Funding - This is imp

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-23 Thread John Lines
> > Seems our defined problem is quite similar, if not identical. > > Would be great if we could find overlap also in our work towards > solutions. > Collaboration and working together as much as we can seems central to successful FLOSS projects > > Makes me happy that you want to give it a t

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andrew M.A. Cater (2020-11-20 18:28:31) > On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 02:37:11PM +, Federico Ceratto wrote: > > As Joseph pointed out, the use-case for the Small Organisation > > Server is practically the same as FreedomBox, either installed from > > image or with "apt install freedombox"

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 02:37:11PM +, Federico Ceratto wrote: > As Joseph pointed out, the use-case for the Small Organisation Server > is practically > the same as FreedomBox, either installed from image or with "apt > install freedombox". > > I find the name "Small Organisation" a bit mislea

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-20 Thread Federico Ceratto
As Joseph pointed out, the use-case for the Small Organisation Server is practically the same as FreedomBox, either installed from image or with "apt install freedombox". I find the name "Small Organisation" a bit misleading. In my experience, often even massive companies and universities need sma

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-19 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting John Lines (2020-11-19 12:35:35) > On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 16:18 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > Quoting John Lines (2020-11-18 13:35:42) > > > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +, Wookey wrote: > > > > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: > > > > > I have written at > > > > > https

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-19 Thread John Lines
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 15:29 +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2020-11-18 11:06:20 + (+), John Lines wrote: > [...] > > I do suggest in > > > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/11/13/ambridge-garden-club-registering-the-domain/ > > > > that AWS might be a possibility, or Azure,

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-19 Thread John Lines
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 16:18 +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Hi John, > > Quoting John Lines (2020-11-18 13:35:42) > > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +, Wookey wrote: > > > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: > > > > I have written at > > > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2020-11-18 11:06:20 + (+), John Lines wrote: [...] > I do suggest in > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/11/13/ambridge-garden-club-registering-the-domain/ > > that AWS might be a possibility, or Azure, or Google Cloud If you're going to advocate for free/libre open source

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi John, Quoting John Lines (2020-11-18 13:35:42) > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +, Wookey wrote: > > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: > > > I have written at > > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/11/07/the-ambridge-garden-club/ > > > > > > about a such a group, as I

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread John Lines
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 19:48 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 11:06 +, John Lines wrote: > > > I believe/hope it should be possible to this type of thing another > > way, > > and that a technical sysadmin should not be needed. > > You would still need a sysadmin to do the hardwa

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread John Lines
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +, Wookey wrote: > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: > > > ... > >I have written > >at > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/11/07/the-ambridge-garden-club/ > > about > >a such a group, as I am interested to know if others feel this

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread John Lines
On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 22:10 +0530, Joseph Nuthalapati wrote: > FreedomBox has been successfully used in community deployments to > serve > a number of useful applications from a locally hosted server. This is > documented in the WikiBook, FreedomBox for Communities[1]. > > I agree with you that a

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 11:06 +, John Lines wrote: > I believe/hope it should be possible to this type of thing another way, > and that a technical sysadmin should not be needed. You would still need a sysadmin to do the hardware, OS and software setup, fixes, tweaks, replacement, etc. > I hav

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-18 Thread John Lines
On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 00:15 +, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 7:30 PM John Lines wrote: > > > I have been thinking about how to offer alternatives to Facebook, > > WhatsApp, Zoom etc for non-technical people, many of whom are > > finding the Internet and computers much more central

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-17 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 7:30 PM John Lines wrote: > I have been thinking about how to offer alternatives to Facebook, WhatsApp, > Zoom etc for non-technical people, many of whom are finding the Internet and > computers much more central to their lives than they did before the pandemic. This ide

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-17 Thread Joseph Nuthalapati
FreedomBox has been successfully used in community deployments to serve a number of useful applications from a locally hosted server. This is documented in the WikiBook, FreedomBox for Communities[1]. I agree with you that a Debian Pure Blend for small organizations overlaps significantly with Fre

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

2020-11-16 Thread Wookey
On 2020-11-16 19:20 +, John Lines wrote: >Many people are members of small organisations who are moving online -and >the only option they can find and understand is to create a Facebook >Group, use Facebook messenger or WhatsApp to communicate, and Zoom for >meetings. >Debi