Hi John, Quoting John Lines (2020-11-18 13:35:42) > On Tue, 2020-11-17 at 02:07 +0000, Wookey wrote: > > On 2020-11-16 19:20 +0000, John Lines wrote: > > > I have written at > > > https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/11/07/the-ambridge-garden-club/ > > > > > > about a such a group, as I am interested to know if others feel > > > this is also a problem, and a one worth trying to solve.
I see this problem too, and am working on addressing it. But slowly. My aim is to purely integrate tools officially in Debian (which is what I defined as "Debian Pure Blend", btw). So to me, the first step is to make sure all parts are packaged officially in Debian, and is well maintained and in healthy shape upstream as well... > > Definitely. I have been frustrated that our local charity has to pay > > zoom several hundred pounds to hold our AGM virtually because they > > want some of the advanced features which cost money (broadcasting > > with central control of audio and attendees not visible). They have > > no idea that things like Big Blue Button exist (which I suspect, but > > don't know) also has these features. And even if they did know they > > have no technical expertise/bandwidth to set it up. > > I think Big Blue Button is beyond the scope of the type of > organisation I have in mind, in terms of requirements, though it would > be good to have them more widely known. > > I find the mind share that Zoom has a bit alarming, and I seem to be > spending over 8 hours a week in Zoom meetings - I do not thing it is > good that any single product becomes synonymous with a type of > service. I distinguish between 4 categories of video conferencing services: a) frontend-only b) frontend + lighweight backend c) frontend + heavyweight backend d) cloud-only or in other ways non-free BigBueButton and Jitsi are both in category c). My interest is category b) because - unlike c) or d) - can most realistically be hosted on small hardware with reduced administration, and - unlike a) - can serve rooms of more than 6-8 participants. Among category b) solutions, I am aware of these in active development: * jangouts, using janus backend * multiparty-meeting, using mediasoup backend I maintain the janus package and am happy to collaborate on getting more (both related and competing) components packaged. I am also interested in information about tools that I might have missed. Here's what I am aware of already: https://source.redpill.dk/media-stream-hosting/tree/DEVELOP.md If your interest is in integrating something *now* to have it quickest possible usable, then I recommend that you collaborate closely with [FreedomBox] to not fork it but improve it to be flexible enought to fit also your needs. [FreedomBox]: https://wiki.debian.org/FreedomBox If your interest is too different from FreedomBox and you have strong ideas and opinions on exactly how you want to approach it, then I recommend that you draft your ideas and principles on the Debian wiki, and invite people to check it out and join you more concretety. If your interest is too different from FreedomBox and you are flexible or undecided on how to realize it, then maybe you like my [SolidBox] project. :-) [SolidBox]: https://wiki.debian.org/Solidbox Even if you dislike my SolidBox project, I am also working on another more practical and less ambitious one called Redpill. That one lack documentation, however: Join the irc channel #tinker on OFTC and let me try explain it to you... :-) - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist & Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private
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