On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 19:48 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, 2020-11-18 at 11:06 +0000, John Lines wrote: > > > I believe/hope it should be possible to this type of thing another > > way, > > and that a technical sysadmin should not be needed. > > You would still need a sysadmin to do the hardware, OS and software > setup, fixes, tweaks, replacement, etc. > At that level the paid sysadmin would be the hosting provider from which the host was rented, which might be Amazon, or a independent.
Within the system, apt automatic updates seem to be doing a pretty good job now. The tricky part is major version upgrades, which Debian does pretty well - I think - although the system I am writing this on was installed with wheezy and has been updated through all the releases since, and is now running bullseye, I usually - like now, jump to a testing release before the freeze. I have done upgrades from one stable release to another, and think they should be OK. Most people running on Windows used to just buy a new server every major release, which kept everybody (hardware sales and Microsoft) quite happy > > I have set up systems on AWS for myself, but it is much too big a > > barrier for anybody non technical. > > I was suggesting that AWS themselves would be the right folks to do > this, since they have the scale to distribute the sysadmin/etc costs > over many many customers in order to make it affordable enough. >