On 12/12/2024 04:05, Sean Whitton wrote:
On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 01:31pm GMT, Ahmad Khalifa wrote:
As an outsider trying to help, the natural thing I looked at was the RFH
process to dip my toes into things.
But only 56 packages have RFH bugs and they're usually not very clear on what
help they ne
Hello,
On Tue 10 Dec 2024 at 01:31pm GMT, Ahmad Khalifa wrote:
> As an outsider trying to help, the natural thing I looked at was the RFH
> process to dip my toes into things.
> But only 56 packages have RFH bugs and they're usually not very clear on what
> help they need. And most of those were
> "Xiyue" == Xiyue Deng writes:
Xiyue> Thanks for your input! For sure if what-you-suggest happens
Xiyue> on a regular basis it would be great. I am just hoping to
Xiyue> let perspective DD sponsors have less concerns that we as
Xiyue> sponsees don't necessarily want to take
Am Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 05:51:37PM +0800 schrieb Sean Whitton:
> It doesn't seem good for Debian, or the sponsee, for the DD to sponsor
> it through NEW and then leave the sponsee in limbo.
Definitely. Finding a sponsor for the first upload but not for the
subsequent source-only upload might be s
On 09/12/2024 16:49, Andreas Tille wrote:
Am Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 08:03:36AM -0600 schrieb rhys:
It's not the sort of thing that needs to be strictly updated like a man page or other technical document. It
just needs to be a couple of pages that describe the "general" (big picture structure an
Hi Sean,
Sean Whitton writes:
> Hello,
>
> On Mon 09 Dec 2024 at 03:58pm -08, Xiyue Deng wrote:
>
>> These are valid concerns. I think the tooling from Phil should help
>> with your point 2 and 3. For 4-6, I personally never expect the same DD
>> would provide long-term support after sponsorin
Hello,
On Mon 09 Dec 2024 at 03:58pm -08, Xiyue Deng wrote:
> These are valid concerns. I think the tooling from Phil should help
> with your point 2 and 3. For 4-6, I personally never expect the same DD
> would provide long-term support after sponsoring. Maybe making that
> clear on the Debia
On Tue, 2024-12-10 at 00:35 -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote:
> Hi Phil,
>
> Phil Wyett writes:
> >
> > [..snip..]
> >
> > Morning Xiyue and all,
> >
> > Xiyue mentions tooling after Sam raised an issue.
> >
> > Xiyue, Many thanks for entering this conversation as I feel you are an ideal
> > person (t
Hi Phil,
Phil Wyett writes:
>
> [..snip..]
>
> Morning Xiyue and all,
>
> Xiyue mentions tooling after Sam raised an issue.
>
> Xiyue, Many thanks for entering this conversation as I feel you are an ideal
> person (through our many interactions) to detail/discuss what you feel mentors
> is, is n
Hello Phil,
Am 10.12.24 um 06:49 schrieb Phil Wyett:
On Mon, 2024-12-09 at 15:58 -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote:
Hi Sam,
Sam Hartman writes:
As a none DD I do basic build testing and validation of packages and their
files in-order to bring them up to a minimum standard for a DD to then look at.
On Tue, 2024-12-10 at 02:12 +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 02:02:30PM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > >> It would be great to have a group of DDs that are willing to
> > >> regularly check for RFS bugs / mentors.d.n and offer sponsorship
> >
> > Andrey> Sure.
On Mon, 2024-12-09 at 15:58 -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>
> Sam Hartman writes:
>
> > > > > > > "Andrey" == Andrey Rakhmatullin writes:
> >
> > Andrey> On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 03:30:23PM -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote:
> > >> It would be great to have a group of DDs that are willing to
Hi Sam,
Sam Hartman writes:
>> "Andrey" == Andrey Rakhmatullin writes:
>
> Andrey> On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 03:30:23PM -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote:
> >> It would be great to have a group of DDs that are willing to
> >> regularly check for RFS bugs / mentors.d.n and offer sponsorship
On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 02:02:30PM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >> It would be great to have a group of DDs that are willing to
> >> regularly check for RFS bugs / mentors.d.n and offer sponsorship
>
> Andrey> Sure. This is true since the beginning of the RFS process,
> Andrey> and
> "Andrey" == Andrey Rakhmatullin writes:
Andrey> On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 03:30:23PM -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote:
>> It would be great to have a group of DDs that are willing to
>> regularly check for RFS bugs / mentors.d.n and offer sponsorship
Andrey> Sure. This is true since t
Hi,
Am Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 08:03:36AM -0600 schrieb rhys:
> >>> When I was regularly monitoring ITPs, I noticed that newcomers often
> >>> struggle to "find friends" (i.e., sponsors). In my opinion, what we need
> >>> is someone to guide sponsees to the appropriate team, Salsa group, or
> >>> sim
>>>
>>> When I was regularly monitoring ITPs, I noticed that newcomers often
>>> struggle to "find friends" (i.e., sponsors). In my opinion, what we need
>>> is someone to guide sponsees to the appropriate team, Salsa group, or
>>> similar space. This role doesn't require a delegation since it
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 03:30:23PM -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote:
> It would be great to have a group of DDs that are willing to regularly
> check for RFS bugs / mentors.d.n and offer sponsorship
Sure. This is true since the beginning of the RFS process, and as nothing
stops people from doing this, but
On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 22:07 -0300, Leandro Cunha wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 9:20 PM Phil Wyett wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 20:41 -0300, Leandro Cunha wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:30 PM Xiyue Deng wrote:
> > > > P.S. I would also like to take this
Hi,
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 9:20 PM Phil Wyett wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 20:41 -0300, Leandro Cunha wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:30 PM Xiyue Deng wrote:
> > > P.S. I would also like to take this chance to appreciate Phil Wyett's
> > > automatic RFS checking that adds "co
On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 20:41 -0300, Leandro Cunha wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:30 PM Xiyue Deng wrote:
> > P.S. I would also like to take this chance to appreciate Phil Wyett's
> > automatic RFS checking that adds "confirmed" tag to RFS bugs that passed
> > the checks, which helps ens
On Wed, 2024-12-04 at 15:30 -0800, Xiyue Deng wrote:
> Andreas Tille writes:
>
> > Am Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:46:03PM +0500 schrieb Andrey Rakhmatullin:
> > > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:39:52AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> > > > I have directed several RFS (Request For Sponsor) towards appropri
Hi,
On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 8:30 PM Xiyue Deng wrote:
> P.S. I would also like to take this chance to appreciate Phil Wyett's
> automatic RFS checking that adds "confirmed" tag to RFS bugs that passed
> the checks, which helps ensure a minimum quality of a prepared package
> ready for sponsorship
Andreas Tille writes:
> Am Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:46:03PM +0500 schrieb Andrey Rakhmatullin:
>> On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:39:52AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
>> > I have directed several RFS (Request For Sponsor) towards appropriate
>> > teams,
>> > when then exist. However, my personal exp
Am Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 09:09:40PM +0100 schrieb Simon Josefsson:
> But after seeing the ping's I decided to help on packages that
> happened to be some that I had some familiarity with already. So at
^^^
> least for these packages, ping's
Andrey Rakhmatullin writes:
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 08:03:49PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
>> I suspect the RFS process would be more successful in finding a sponsor
>> if the requests went to debian-devel rather than another opt-in mailing
>> list. I rarely go looking for more work to do by
Am Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:46:03PM +0500 schrieb Andrey Rakhmatullin:
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:39:52AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> > I have directed several RFS (Request For Sponsor) towards appropriate
> > teams,
> > when then exist. However, my personal experience is that the majority o
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 08:03:49PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote:
> I suspect the RFS process would be more successful in finding a sponsor
> if the requests went to debian-devel rather than another opt-in mailing
> list. I rarely go looking for more work to do by viewing
>
> https://bugs.debian.o
Soren Stoutner writes:
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:30:34 AM MST Andreas Tille wrote:
>> Am Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 06:15:22PM -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner:
>> > I think one of the best things we could do to attract new contributors,
> and
>> > to encourage those who are currently Sponsored
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 10:39:52AM -0700, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> I have directed several RFS (Request For Sponsor) towards appropriate teams,
> when then exist. However, my personal experience is that the majority of RFS
> that come into Debian Mentors do not fit neatly into any existing team.
On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 10:30:34 AM MST Andreas Tille wrote:
> Am Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 06:15:22PM -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner:
> > I think one of the best things we could do to attract new contributors,
and
> > to encourage those who are currently Sponsored Maintainers to become
Debian
>
Am Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 06:15:22PM -0700 schrieb Soren Stoutner:
>
> I think one of the best things we could do to attract new contributors, and
> to
> encourage those who are currently Sponsored Maintainers to become Debian
> Maintainers, and those who are current Debian Maintainers to become
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