Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-11 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Mon, 11 Feb 2008 13:03:12 -0500 "David Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > No package should be generic for anything, most of the time, and it's up the > users and alternatives to do that. Agreed, and in fact I've already renamed the binary to "ntranslate". :) David -- . ''`.

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-11 Thread David Moreno
On Feb 10, 2008 5:52 AM, David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Il giorno Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:16:17 +0200 > Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > On la, 2008-02-09 at 19:48 +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > > The problem is that "translate" by does only de<->en > translations, >

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:48:50 +1100 Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Perhaps a bug report against policy to specify "API" instead of > "implementations"? Done. But the problem is not "implementation", it is "same functionalities". At least, IMHO. However, we can have further discussion on

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> /--- Policy 10.1 > >> | Two different packages must not install programs with different > >> | functionality but with the same filenames. (The case of two > >> |

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread Russ Allbery
David Paleino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is not possible; it would be a RC bug: >> /--- Policy 10.1 >> | Two different packages must not install programs with different >> | functionality but with the same filenames. (The case of two programs >>

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread David Paleino
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:40:28 + (UTC) Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > sean finney debian.org> writes: > > > while i don't have any specific knowledge or interest in the details of > > this particular problem, i'd just add since you haven't mentioned it as an > > alternative that yo

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread Frank Küster
sean finney debian.org> writes: > while i don't have any specific knowledge or interest in the details of this > particular problem, i'd just add since you haven't mentioned it as an > alternative that you could always Conflict with the package in question while > waiting for a resolution. Th

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread David Paleino
On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:00:41 +0100 Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As the program requires internet access, maybe web-translate or > net-translate. After talking with upstream, he noticed that "my" translate does not necessarily need Internet access, it can use also GNU Talkfilters offline

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread Frans Pop
David Paleino wrote: > "My" program is not GNOME-specific. You're confusing it with > gnome-translate, which is a GUI to libtranslate, which is the package > we're talking about (yes, libtranslate provides a CLI command, which is > "translate") ;) Yeah, I had a look at the upstream website later a

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread David Paleino
(please do _not_ CC me :) Il giorno Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:17:30 +0100 Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 12:51:46PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > > Ok, then. Is translate-bin a right choice? Or is that too generic? > > Since -bin in itself is generic, to

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 12:51:46PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > Il giorno Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:23:47 +0200 > Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > On su, 2008-02-10 at 11:52 +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > > I believe I can claim the use of the generic name "translate". > > > > I

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:23:47 +0200 Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On su, 2008-02-10 at 11:52 +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > I believe I can claim the use of the generic name "translate". > > I think I wasn't clear enough in my previous mail: I don't think anyone > shoul

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On su, 2008-02-10 at 11:52 +0100, David Paleino wrote: > I believe I can claim the use of the generic name "translate". I think I wasn't clear enough in my previous mail: I don't think anyone should use the generic name "translate", and the fact that it is already being used is unfortunately. I d

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:16:17 +0200 Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On la, 2008-02-09 at 19:48 +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > The problem is that "translate" by does only de<->en translations, > > while "my" translate offers a wider range of options and conversions (and >

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On la, 2008-02-09 at 19:48 +0100, David Paleino wrote: > The problem is that "translate" by does only de<->en translations, > while "my" translate offers a wider range of options and conversions (and it's > expandable, through a XML configuration file). Thus I don't believe that using > the altern

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-09 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:28:23 +0100 sean finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > hi, Hi, > On Saturday 09 February 2008 07:48:08 pm David Paleino wrote: > > Is this the Right Way to behave? And what if doesn't reply to that > > bug? Should I file my RFS nevertheless, thus expecting a RC b

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-09 Thread David Paleino
Il giorno Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:20:43 +0100 Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > David Paleino wrote: > > Any suggestion/idea/* is very welcome. > > As your program is gnome-only I don't think you can even claim to be > more "generic" than the current translate. > > How about using gtransla

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-09 Thread Frans Pop
David Paleino wrote: > Any suggestion/idea/* is very welcome. As your program is gnome-only I don't think you can even claim to be more "generic" than the current translate. How about using gtranslate for your binary? Cheers, FJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Binaries with the same name

2008-02-09 Thread sean finney
hi, On Saturday 09 February 2008 07:48:08 pm David Paleino wrote: > Is this the Right Way to behave? And what if doesn't reply to that > bug? Should I file my RFS nevertheless, thus expecting a RC bug filed? > Should I rename my binary (and to what? "translate-generic"?!)? while i don't have any

Binaries with the same name

2008-02-09 Thread David Paleino
Hi *, some time ago I've made an ITP for gnome-translate [1], which depends on libtranslate, who already had two ITPs which I took over [2]. This latter package provides some binary packages, among which there is "libtranslate-bin", which installs a "translate" executable in /usr/bin/. But there al