sociating
> Debian with evil communist pirate P2P filesharers?
er, you do realise torrent is used for way more then that right?
(for example there's now a scandinavian telivision station that's starting
to distribute shows through bittorrent, we also already have debtorrent)
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> "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > "As long as there's interest the software will stay alive" is one of
> > the main tenets of Free Software. Consequently,
illing to maintain it, it shouldn't be removed regardless of how old it
is.
=> If the current maintainer is no longer interested others should get the
change to step forward and take over, and only if noone steps up it should
be removed
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that's about it AFAIK)
For a specific package you can also use apt-file or packages.debian.org to
check for the presence of a .po file for your language.
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what's in the directories added to KDEDIRS, most of the
time it won't cause problems.
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users will ever use the extra information, I don't see how the existence of
that information would cause any problems
-> so as long as somebody is willing to do the work for providing it I don't
see the problem with supporting a standard system for putting the
information in
(witness
things such as volatile, backports, CUT-releases, updated d-i
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, keeps working
=> thus making sure that ones you have a workaround, that keeps working
to
In short stable is about not getting any unexpected surprises/changes in how
software behaves.
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h 196 MiB running, it works just fine as a low-end
desktop-system)
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On Tuesday 27 March 2007, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 01:27:55PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> > On Tuesday 27 March 2007, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > *what's* in it. Just because it has a patch tag doesn't mean it's
> > > nece
re many other metrics that can be
> used for that.
instead of orphaning before there's a new maintainer, maybe we need a
"needs co-maintainer" or "may be hijacked" tag?
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o changed their vote, only their last vote is counted to
determine the outcome of the resolution, but they still made 2 votes (or
more if they changed their minds more then once
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rything follow the freedesktop
basedir spec for the caching location, note that this spec defaults to the
location $HOME/.cache (or whatever the $XDG_CACHE_HOME env var points to)
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ask for
help in any particular way (or at all). So no need to get all worked up, if
you find the suggestions in this thread impractical/useless then by all
means ignore them, they're only suggestions.
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ou give a step by step instruction of how to get involved (again
lowering the barrier to entry)
> So Yes I wonder if it's not that it's just easier to pretend it's our
> fault
Nobody is saying anybody is at fault, which doesn't mean there's no room for
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On Tuesday 06 March 2007, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
AARGH! did it again, sorry all,
(me goes of to configure an outgoing filter to prevent doing this again)
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> On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 08:05:08PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> > --
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>
> I think you meant to send this to debian-l10n-nl, rather than -devel :)
indeed
* me smaks his
who
don't even use Debian themselves.
So saying translators do it purely, or even mainly, for themselves is doing
debian translators in general a disservice IMHO
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oops, wrong list should've gone to debian-l10n-dutch
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n that
way.
-> There's a difference between saying that Debian should remain 100%
volunteer, and sayin Debian should not become an employer.
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On Thursday 01 March 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 03:20:24PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> > On Thursday 01 March 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > Le jeudi 01 mars 2007 à 14:33 +0100, Eduard Bloch a écrit :
> > > > > I&#
ails,
> as someone is trying to fake you on mailing lists.
flaw in your logic:
the quoted part does not say maintainers have enough manpower,
it only says that they haven't expressed the need for more manpower,or at
least not in a forum followed by the potential helper.
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On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 11:04:47AM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> > On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > Le mardi 27 février 2007 à 09:24 +0100, Eduard Bloch a écrit :
> > > Wh
here in this thread this only needs you to a) keep track
of which bug reports aren't being handled (presumably you already have
those bugs somewhere low on your todo list, right?) and b) compose 1 mail
to that list of bug repports every couple of weeks or so.
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er, is ample feedback that the bug has been
> triaged by a real human.
I agree completely here, if visible action has been taken there's no need
for an ack mail
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On Tuesday 27 February 2007, Ben Finney wrote:
> Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > - an indication the effort of submitting a bug report is apreciated
> > > - an indication
nd it would solve the problem nicely IMO
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th new bugs)
Indication of the size of the problem would also be great (as in roughly #
antiquated bugs, or roughly #bugs more per week then we can handle)
[1] luckily for translators the frequency of this happening has decreased
noticably over the last couple of years
[2] http://w
re view of the project as
whole and the relationship of the project with our users.
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can't be even better, but we're definitely working in
> the good direction, and are not slugged either.
happy user of kde packages myself, and I definately agree that things have
improved enourmously the last several years, so let me take the opportunity
to give you guys a heartfelt thanks :)
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immediately. (you do that already right?)
2) if not send your standard reply, asking users to either be patient or
help out
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On Monday 22 January 2007 18:05, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le lundi 22 janvier 2007 à 16:44 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) a
> écrit :
> > Those capplets were wanted enough to have been made, so obviously they
> > scratch someones itch. Or in other words they're usefull
.org/debian-devel/2007/01/msg00626.html
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/01/msg00643.html
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On Saturday 20 January 2007 14:21, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le samedi 20 janvier 2007 à 13:34 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) a
> > IMHO that just means those usability engineers took the easy way out of
> > a scaling problem: instead of adressing the actual problem, they jus
ing.
Thus Gnome has actively stopped a whole slew of users from scratching their
itches the way they did before. IMHO that's monementally stupid.
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y, I think it is a
> responsible thing for mass market ISPs to do.
recommending the most virus-infected piece of mail-software around is a
responsible thing to do?
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On Wednesday 17 May 2006 08:33, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:09:37 +0200, "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >How so? As an admin you can always comment out any conf.d file
> > completely if you don't want what i
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 12:10, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2006 10:28:57 +0200, "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >1) use multilevel/modular config where available:
> > usually in the form of a /etcc/.d directory
> >
hat's
likely not a problem for your own use)
long-term Debian solution is pushing for 1)
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On Wednesday 03 May 2006 22:56, Bill Allombert wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2006 at 12:53:01PM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> > On Sunday 23 April 2006 20:26, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > > Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > What we need and wh
of the devcamp meeting
[2] for the same reason that desktop-profiles needs it, not unlogical as the
latter is a generalization of the approach used by debian-edu-config to
customize the KDE-configuration, plans are to migrate debian-edu-config
to desktop-profiles for the etch version of debian-edu.
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certainty about what is
going on.
A simple 1 line reply is enough to remove that uncertainty:
- this takes maybe half a minute
- this makes Debian look a _lot_ more responsive then 2 months of silence
wile notting happens (because the maintainer is working on more pressing
problems/other packa
On Wednesday 18 January 2006 21:51, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 09:41:58AM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> > syncinc _to_ debian implies that changes are _pushed_ to Debian
> > regularly, whereas in actuallity they're simply made available for pu
're dissatisfied about, in
> your role as maintainer of these packages. Are you speaking for yourself
> or on behalf of someone else?
So here we have Ubuntu offering a monolitic patch with 3 seperate logical
changes. One of which you yourself identify as 'not-for-Debian', a
iative lies
> > which pisses people off.
>
> I think that people are pissed off for other reasons. (But I admit
> that I can only speculate. I can't read people's hearts and minds.)
>
> Suppose Ubuntu were to cease claiming[0] that it gives back to Debian.
> Would
on of where (most of) the initiative lies which
pisses people off.
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guration sets,
any changes made by a party whose configuration settings have lower
precedence are then used transparently unless you've overriden that
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installs do
couldn't you just add a file with a list of things to chown for the dh_user
command to use?
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?
[1]
http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_2.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/runlevels.html
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to adjust the gconf path file instead)
- desktop-profiles now provides a standard way to set up extra
configuration-sets, allowing the admin to control the activation of them in
1 place regardless of the DE used (but even before that you could always
set the environment variable in , skolelinux
gt; "hostage takers".
it's called 'Stockholm Syndrome' and it's a well documented and common ( in
such circomstances) physological phenomenon
SCNR
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security support of the additional arches would stay
> largely the same.
> One could have the present testing rules up to some
> point and switch to "if arch-specific RC bugs/testing delays pop up,
> stuff get removed" for release.
I like this idea, any cons?
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-> lots of people just disagree that with how the Vancouver proposal goes
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On Tuesday 15 March 2005 02:50, Anthony Towns wrote:
> cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> >>That's why it's posted on the lists now -- it never too late to get
> >>input into something in Debian; even after we've committed to
> >> something, we c
(instead of just the result) tends to go a
long way in having a technical discussion, it keeps people from feeling
left out of the loop, and it accomodates and promotes a technical
discussion. It also avoids repeating arguments had in the "in person
meeting" with people on the list wh
you happy with that?
the headlines are unfortunate, but anyone actually reading the articles
won't be misinformed
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ould be a lot simpler to simply say
"security updates" will be announced x days after they enter the queue"
-> no waiting on architectures that are slow
-> no dropping any arches that manage to keep up (regardless of wether they
are used by a large percentage of users or not)
-
rg/modules.php?name=specrev&url=http://www.linuxbase.org/spec//booksets/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/set1.html
for what the LSB has to say about the subject
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anges not _yet_ added/merged back into Debian proper)
CDD's are currently based on Debian-stable (which is the reason Skoleinux,
for example. is still using kde 2.2), and eagerly anticipating the release
of Sarge
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On Tuesday 25 January 2005 23:08, Tristan Seligmann wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 22:34:12 +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> > every parent [1] will have to go through the list of available comics,
> > evaluate them and disable them.
>
> They'll have to do
On Tuesday 25 January 2005 23:08, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > every parent [1] will have to go through the list of available comics,
> > evaluate them and disable them.
>
> Isn't that required in a
ing to subject/style/
genre/language/... which would be more broadly applicable then just kid
friendliness (e.g. user only wants Dutch comics/ doesn't want comics
dealing with religion, ...)
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On Monday 10 January 2005 23:03, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 21:11 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Op ma, 10-01-2005 te 13:24 -0600, schreef Ron Johnson:
> > > On Mon, 2005-01-10 at 19:14 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > Do you *really* think that RTFM means "Go read the documen
On Saturday 11 December 2004 14:28, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 01:24:32PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> > On Saturday 11 December 2004 01:13, Rich Walker wrote:
> > > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > Ri
least one mechanism for making classifications is available (debtags),
though a mechanism for exluding packages from mirrors/CD's based on tags
seams currently to be missing.
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On Monday 06 December 2004 08:01, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-12-05 at 22:49 -0800, Don Armstrong wrote:
> Umm, all animals (except humans) are naked.
:-O and here I always thought I was naked underneed my clothes!
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On Friday 03 December 2004 03:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 07:18:58PM +0100, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
wrote:
> My opinion is that if master or non-us can't distribute it and we find
> any interested mirror which can and would distribute it, then Debian
what about different mirror and cd creation rules?
as said above I think having a mechanism to define rules exclusion/inclusion
for CD/mirror-creation is I think the way to go
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be?
between the kde-cpu monitor and hotbabe ?
not in any meaningfull way (viewed through my rose-colered glasses
off-course :)
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t causes it to be demeaning.
hear, hear
> (btw, is gay porn demeaning to women?)
or femdom porn (if so I'd _really_ like to hear the reasoning behind that
verdict)
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aying with a sausage at the
kitchen table, apperently the sausage was a phallic symbole which made the
whole thing porn, and another where the picture was of a baby breastfeeding
(hm I'm hungry, I guess that shows, me is off to eat)
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what appears to be lacking is an easy way to exclude
those packages from a CD/Mirror (maybe something like an 'exlude everything
with a certain debtag' option for the CD/mirrorring scripts)
Any group of Debian users that cares enough about an issue (whether prOn,
religion, politics
n,
anything which doesn't _aim_ to be a subset of Debian ...
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On 2003-12-05 16:36, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 03:20:45AM -0600, cobaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > _ideally_ there are no changes. In practice there will be.
>
> Why?
because it takes time to change thin
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On 2003-12-05 13:01, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> > On 2003-12-05 11:16, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > > their fine work. I really love what they do and SkoleLinux is one of
> > > the most impre
rently.
take a look at apt-build
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On 2003-12-05 17:13, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 09:23:52AM -0600, cobaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 2003-12-05 11:06, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > >Debian-Edu *is* a CDD because
> > > i
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On 2003-12-05 16:48, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> > hm, as far as I know Debian-edu is nothing more then a couple of
> > task-packages at this point (and some education packages that got added
> > to
no CDD (you might
> even have reasons to make the work better outside).
exactly, we seem to differ in opinion about at exactly what point the term
CDD is warranted (though we agree that some relation to Debian is required).
See my reply to Ben Armstrong's mail to see where I draw that li
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> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> > > There are no changes to Debian, because CDDs reside completely in
> > > main / testing /unstable as any other package.
> >
> > _
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On 2003-12-03 21:58, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, cobaco wrote:
> > hm, I've added a definition to the wiki:
> >
> > A Custom Debian Distribution (CDD) is a version of Debian that is
> > tailored
>
takt.html
> Beacuse of unavailablity of people.d.o I copied the most important
> stuff to
>
> http://www.physik.uni-halle.de/~e2od5/cdd/200311_lux_cust/
>
> I plan to write a written paper about the things I've said in this
> talk which for sure might go into the
ituation/target
group arge merged back into Debian whenever possible, improving Debian as a
whole.
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standard Debian, thus improving the whole distribution.
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irectly in the installer
We have these in Skolelinux, so you might want to take a look at that (see
http://developer.skolelinux.no/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/skolelinux/src/
base-config-skolelinux)
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(but had to dump it because I didn't have the
> resources to test it and no-one else was interested), and now I'm working
> on SE Linux.
>
> I want the users to have as many choices as possible.
adamantix also uses RSBAC if I'm not mistaken
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Cheers, cobaco
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o-date is most important,
> we'd be wasting our time with all this freezing anyway.
It's not a question of either stability or either up-to-dateness but of the
right balance between the two. IMHO that balance lies differently for
server-sofware then for end-user software
NOTE: by server
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On 2003-08-20 15:27, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:38:57PM +0200, cobaco wrote:
> > On 2003-08-20 12:10, Michael Piefel wrote:
> > > Am 20.08.03 um 11:08:28 schrieb cobaco:
> > > > kde 3.2 releas
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On 2003-08-20 15:33, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:11:20PM +0200, cobaco wrote:
> > Note that the RM was talking about servers there, while kde is end-user
> > software, big difference IMHO. Taking into account
r version upgrade
> We're never going to manage to release just
> after high-profile releases of all our major components, so let's not
> delay for this one unless we have to.
true enough, still releasing a week before a high-profile release of KDE is
rather unfortunate I thi
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On 2003-08-20 12:36, Isaac To wrote:
> >>>>> "cobaco" == cobaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why KDE cannot be used on servers (how about a X terminal server? You
> don't have to set it up?)
not what I
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On 2003-08-20 12:10, Michael Piefel wrote:
> Am 20.08.03 um 11:08:28 schrieb cobaco:
> > kde 3.2 release is slated for 8th december[1], is there any chance we'll
> > wait for it, just so the outdated kde label doesn't ap
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On 2003-08-20 11:47, Isaac To wrote:
> >>>>> "cobaco" == cobaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> cobaco> kde 3.2 release is slated for 8th december[1], is there any
> cobaco> chance we'
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