Re: Formal warning for conduct on Debian mailing lists

[Forwarded copy of original email: signed for authentication] On Sat, Apr 05, 2025 at 04:06:17PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Dear Branden, > > The Debian Code of Conduct[1] (and the mailing list Code of Conduct[2]) can > be boiled down to two sentences in simple English: >

Formal warning for conduct on Debian mailing lists

Dear Branden, The Debian Code of Conduct[1] (and the mailing list Code of Conduct[2]) can be boiled down to two sentences in simple English: Assume good faith. Treat others with respect, both within and outside Debian. You seem to be complaining about the conduct of the Community Team wi

Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

On Sun, Mar 09, 2025 at 03:58:59PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > Agreed. However none of that hardware require me to load non-free > firmware from my operating system, which is my point. That situation is > sufficient for me to accept to use the hardware and install an operating > system bui

Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 11:16:40PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Aurélien COUDERC writes: > > > Le 8 mars 2025 21:09:00 GMT+01:00, Simon Josefsson a > > écrit : > > > >>I read this outcome as fairly clear message that, no, Debian does not > >>want to provide a second set of installer images,

Re: Reconsidering Debian’s Inclusion of Non-Free Firmware - A Call for Discussion

On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 06:59:45PM +, Bill Allombert wrote: > Le Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 11:42:10AM -0700, Soren Stoutner a écrit : > > In the original GR, one of the options that lost was for Debian to host two > > sets of installer > > images, one with non-free firmware and one without, and fo

Re: Why are cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment still in version 6.2?

On Wed, Feb 05, 2025 at 12:44:31PM +0100, Fabio Fantoni wrote: > Il 05/02/2025 12:19, kindusmith ha scritto: > > In Debian 13, all components of cinnamon have been upgraded to 6.4 or > > above, but cinnamon-core and cinnamon-desktop-environment are still > > lower versions of 6.2 > > > Hi, I haven

Re: Do we need a conflict of interest policy?

On Fri, Feb 07, 2025 at 06:10:20PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Hi all, > > we are so diverse, that when the possibility of a conflict of interest > arises in a situation, it is too late, because we are not even going to > agree on what a conflict of interest is, and how to handle the > situatio

Re: Project-wide LLM budget for helping people (WAS: Re: Complete and unified documentation for new maintainers

On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 04:56:15PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Jan 11, 2025 at 07:13:58PM -0800, Otto Kekäläinen wrote: > > I don't think Debian should as an organization pay for LLMs. On the > > contrary I would expect LLM providers to offer API keys for free to > > Debian Developers just

Re: Suitability of Rust for *all* architectures? [WAS Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386]

On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 12:28:28PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 07:05:39PM +0000, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop disabling > > > > SSE2 there in rustc > > > > &

Suitability of Rust for *all* architectures? [WAS Re: Rustc unsoundness on i386]

On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 11:29:04PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 03:14:42PM +0100, Fabian Grünbichler wrote: > > B) bump the i386 baseline in Debian to require SSE2, and stop disabling > > SSE2 there in rustc > > As suggested by Chris, and a popular opinion/request i

Re: file-roller old bugs

On Wed, Oct 16, 2024 at 11:43:59PM +0300, Mina wrote: > hi > i noticed that there is a lot of very old( > 13 years old) > outstanding bugs in file-roller bugs page and some of then i confirmed > that it's n longer reproducible most probably fix > is it ok to close it and archive it or what is your

Re: proposal: Hybrid network stack for Trixie

On Sun, Sep 22, 2024 at 03:45:30PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Sun Sep 22, 2024 at 12:47 PM BST, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote: > > TBH the "interfaces nicely with the clickable frontends" part is > > what I meant here. I don't know if anyone likes nm-cli. > > I prefer it to `ip`, when I can ge

Re: pcsc-cyberjack needs update to support more apparatus Germany oriented.

Re: Intend to package Cuttlefish (Android virtual device)

On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 04:20:20AM +0800, Ying-Chun Liu (PaulLiu) wrote: > Hi all, > > I intend to package Cuttlefish. But I'd like some clarification. > > Cuttlefish, an open-source project (source: > https://source.android.com/docs/devices/cuttlefish/get-started), requires > downloading or buil

Re: Suggestion

On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 06:35:53PM +, nino Heđi wrote: > My suggestion is regarding locales. Currently we get to chose locale based > on choices of language and keyboard layout and here in lies the problem. > Rather than offer locales based on our selections don't,just list all of > them in ins

Re: About i386 support

On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 09:58:58PM +0200, Victor Gamper wrote: > Hello everyone, > Is it correct that debian 13 is planned to be released without > an i386 iso and i386 is planned to be deprecated? > If so, I'd like to ask to reconsider this seeing as there is still a > plethora of i386 machines an

Re: Bits from DPL

On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 10:37:57AM -0600, Trevor Howard wrote: > How do I unsubscribe from these emails? > > On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 11:15 PM Andreas Tille wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > keeping my promise for monthly bits, here's a quick snapshot of my first > > ten days as DPL. > > > > Special thanks

Re: archive.debian.org mirrors

On Sat, Apr 27, 2024 at 12:16:04PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > Hi > > According to the mirror list > > https://www.debian.org/distrib/archive > > it should be possible to reach archive.debian.org via rsync, however > this fails for me. Is this intentional, or can this be fixed? > https://

Re: Archive back on

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 02:45:29PM -0300, Maycon Antônio wrote: > PLEASE unscrisbe from this list > Antonio, You need to send a mail to debian-devel-request with the subject of unsubscribe The robot should send back a confirmation request that you can accept to confirm that you want to be

32 bit Intel hardware effectively EOL [WAS Re: Offer to make a native 32-bit system avaiable]

On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 01:01:08PM -0600, rhys wrote: > > > > > > Since you still offer 32bit machines of which Debian has enough of. (64 bit > > kernel probably but it doesn't matter) where it does not matter at all. > We don't particularly need 32 bit hardware at the moment, as far as I kno

Re: Linking coreutils against OpenSSL

On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 10:38:13AM +, Luca Boccassi wrote: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 at 02:26, Simon Richter wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > What would you think about having coreutils Depend on libssl3? This > > > would make the libssl3 package essential, which is potentially > > > undesirable, but

Re: besoin d'aide

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 08:39:10AM +0100, siheme samira wrote: > bonjour Bonjour, Il faut vous dire que cela serait mieux sur debian-user ou debian-user-french. Ici, on utlise l'anglais. En bref: Stretch n'existe plus comme un OS avec support du Debian meme. Voyez donc:https://www.debian.org/r

Re: Illegal Instruction Using sudo in Bookworm on i686

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 02:38:40PM -0500, Justin wrote: > Okay, so because the VIA C3 Nehemaiah chip doesn't properly implement > ENDBR32, it falls outside of the supported hardware, despite being otherwise > an "i686 class chip," correct? > > Or put another way, in classic Cyrix style, it's "al

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 05:32:22PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2023-08-21 20:16:22 +0300 (+0300), Dmitry Baryshkov wrote: > [...] > > According to Debian's CoC we use non-offensive ways to communicate > > within the project, so that everybody is welcome to speak and > > contribute. But we sho

Re: Questionable Package Present in Debian: fortune-mod

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 02:39:00PM -0400, Thomas Ward wrote: > Hello. > > Debian Bug #1024501 [1]indicates that data files are present in the > fortune-mod package which are against Debian policy: > > > Dear Maintainer, > > *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropri

Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal)

On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 11:24:15PM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote: > On Wed May 31, 2023 at 12:44 PM CEST, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 12:51:06AM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote: > My point is: what about people who don't have the option to *buy* > anything (new or used), for fi

Re: i386 in the future (was Re: 64-bit time_t transition for 32-bit archs: a proposal)

On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 03:03:40PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Luca Boccassi wrote: > >On Fri, 19 May 2023 at 12:42, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> > >> I'm planning on stopping publishing installer images for i386 > >> soon. Why? We should be strongly encouraging users to move away from > >> it as

Closure of buster-backports (WAS Re: buster-10-backports: I need backported network-manager for buster ASAP.)

regards, Ilari Jääskeläinen. > la, 2023-03-25 kello 18:33 +, Andrew M.A. Cater kirjoitti: > > On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 07:45:57AM +0200, ijaaskelai...@outlook.com > > wrote: > > > Kind regards, Ilari Jääskeläinen. > > > > I wonder if you could explain *why*

Re: buster-10-backports: I need backported network-manager for buster ASAP.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 07:45:57AM +0200, ijaaskelai...@outlook.com wrote: > Kind regards, Ilari Jääskeläinen. I wonder if you could explain *why* you need this so immediately and also why you asked all the Debian developers at once, please. There may be a better way to request that Debian develo

Re: debian stretch: disable running gvfsd by default

On Sat, Feb 18, 2023 at 06:28:45AM +0200, ijaaskelai...@outlook.com wrote: > The old version breaks online filesystems! > YOu may want to note that stretch has very recently been moved to archive.debian.org. It may be appropriate to move to a newer supported version of Debian, perhaps to Debian

Re: Populating non-free firmware?

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 03:22:17PM -0500, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:15 PM M. Zhou wrote: > > > On Sat, 2022-12-24 at 11:44 +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > > > > > > The non-free-firmware [component] has been created, but so far it > > > only > > > contains the rasb

Re: regarding https://www.debian.org/vote/2022/vote_003

On Tue, Nov 01, 2022 at 12:01:42PM +, Wim Bertels wrote: > Hello, > > first of all, thank you for all the good work! > Hello Wim, Thank you for appreciating that Debian does good work. > personally, i am disappointed with this change, > unless i misunderstand the voted outcome, > the choic

Re: membership revoked?

On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 03:04:27AM -0500, Brian Smith wrote: > Hi, > > I don't see my name "Brian Smith" listed at https://nm.debian.org/members/. > However, I do see my profile at https://nm.debian.org/person/bsmith/. Did I > get kicked? > > -- > Brian T. Smith > System Fabric Works > Senior Pr

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 10:54:10PM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le samedi, 16 juillet 2022, 19.36:17 h CEST Adrian Bunk a écrit : > > What tools did you use to generate this data? > > > > The irony is that your "fight" requires exactly the tools you want to > > condemn, and data Debian sho

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 07:05:09PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 04:05:35PM +0200, Jeremy Bicha wrote: > >... > > Debian has a Diversity Statement [1] which says that Debian welcomes > > people regardless of how they identify themselves. Trans people and > > non-binary people

Re: Firmware - what are we going to do about it?

Hi Hakan, On Wed, Jun 01, 2022 at 09:41:35AM +0300, Hakan Bayındır wrote: > > > On 30.05.2022 09:36, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Sun, May 29, 2022 at 05:33:21PM -0400, Bobby wrote: > > > There are definitely people who use forks because it's easier to > > > install non-free firmware. What's

Re: Helping Ukraine with Debian

On Thu, Apr 07, 2022 at 06:41:58PM +1200, Matt Grant wrote: > Hi! > > Has anyone thought about how to help out Ukraine by using Debian? > Thinking about humanitarian relief and and other possibilities for > communications. Is there any way I may be able to help out by remoting > in? Any one got

Re: access forbiden salsa.debian.org

On Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 12:09:17PM +, Philip Wyett wrote: > On Tue, 2022-03-01 at 12:48 +0100, a a wrote: > > Hi. > > > > Today a tried to access contents of debian instaler git repository on > > salsa.debian.org and the > > server responded with 403 error. Next i tried other content located

Re: Legal advice regarding the NEW queue

On Fri, Feb 04, 2022 at 11:50:20PM +0100, Christian Kastner wrote: > On 2022-02-04 18:39, Russ Allbery wrote: > > In other words, this thread is once again drifting into a discussion of > > how to do copyright review *better*, when my original point is that we > > should seriously consider not doin

Re: Graphic equalizer in Rhythmbox.

On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 12:12:03AM +0100, Riccardo wrote: > Hello, on my notebook i use Linux Mint Debian Edition, since i would > like to install the equalizer in the excellent Rhythmbox player, can > you insert the rhythmbox-plugin-complete package in the Package > Manager? > So I could have the

Bug#997916: general: bullseye, (sometimes) keyboard freezes after suspend.

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 03:33:30PM +1000, JoE wrote: > Package: general > Severity: normal > X-Debbugs-Cc: bullk...@protonmail.com > > Dear Maintainer, > > *** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate *** > >* What led up to the situation? >* What exactly di

Re: Debian's branches and release model

On Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 10:51:59PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 10/20/21 7:50 PM, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > Thomas Goirand dijo [Wed, Oct 20, 2021 at 09:11:13AM +0200]: > >>> You can upload it to experimental > >> > >> That's obviously what I'm doing. But when there's 2 releases during the > >> f

Bug#996000: general: System does not boot with second monitor attached

On Sat, Oct 09, 2021 at 09:18:06PM +0200, Asbjørn Sæbø wrote: > Package: general > Severity: important > X-Debbugs-Cc: gaff...@live.com > > Dear Maintainer, > > I installed Debian 11 on a new computer (with a single monitor during > installation, connected with HDMI). > What make/model of comp

Re: Request to Join

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 08:05:34AM +0200, Rob Le wrote: > Hello there, hope all is well. > >   > > My team and I are interested in getting involved in the local Debian > community.  We live and work in the San Francisco community and looking > for way to be more supportive to our favorite open-

Re: Q: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 12:31:26PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > On 21.08.21 10:40, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > I've been thinking for a while that we should bake a feature in apt > > whereby a network administrator can indicate somehow that there is a > > local apt mirror and that apt s

Re: Question Re: Advertising in Packages

On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 09:14:18PM -0600, Antonio Russo wrote: > On 8/15/21 9:06 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 2:22 AM Antonio Russo wrote: > > > >>"Can one advertise non-free services in a Debian package? > >> Is doing so a violation of some Debian policy? > > > > Ther

Re: Debian mirror / developer machine

On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 08:20:11PM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > > If you are talking about a separate repository to the existing > > repository, that sounds like a Debian derivative. Personally I would > > encourage people to contribute to Debian rather than starting new

Re: ARM architectures

On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 07:33:20AM -0400, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: > Hi, > > On 2021-06-05 4:50 a.m., Christoph Biedl wrote: > > Marc Haber wrote... > > > >> I'd still consider the Raspberry Pi. It's unfortunate that the binary > >> non-free blob is already needed to boot the box ev

Re: ARM architectures

On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 11:22:46AM +0530, Siji Sunny wrote: > > Hi ! > > I'm looking for a ARM platform that can easily run Linux. > > Support using terminal over serial port for booting (no need of a GPU). > > > > I know about the Raspberry PI but the GPU drivers are not open source. > > I don't r

Re: debian 11 Bullseye RC 1

On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 07:27:48AM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > All, > > I just successfully installed bullseye RC 1 on my Asus notebook model > X200CA. Everything is working. If you are looking for a notebook to > run Debian I highly recommend this model. > > I installed Bullseye RC 1 o

Re: Debian Installer Bullseye RC 1 release

Unfortunately, the website links to media still only point to the Alpha-3 release :( All best, Andy C

Results of two votes are due shortly

Everyone : The project is expecting the results of two votes shortly. The results won't please everyone - they never do. Please continue to be polite and constructive and work positively with your Debian colleagues however the votes fall. With thanks for your consideration in this Andy Ca

Re: Stable Release Installer Not Asking for Firmware: 10.7.0, and 10.8.0

On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 09:11:07PM -0800, Bug Report wrote: > The unofficial, non-free, stable release installer with firmware, doesn't > recognize Intel Network Card 2723 when selecting the Intel Linux driver.  It > would be helpful if the firmware, and driver for this network card were > added to

Re: Fixed release dates are hurting quality

On Sun, Feb 07, 2021 at 07:41:01PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Sun, Feb 07, 2021 at 02:20:28PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > the packages being untouched for a long time in some cases meaning there > > > is > > > no guarantee for quality. > > > > Sure, but if there is no serious i

Re: Making Debian available, non-free promotor

On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 07:56:30PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 15.01.21 13:42, Ansgar wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-01-12 at 19:30 +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > >> Ah, yes I also wonder how much the world will improve > >> if non-free would be split in non-free and non-free-firmware. > >> Currently

Re: Making Debian available

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 09:57:31AM +0100, Holger Wansing wrote: > Hi, > > Timo Lindfors wrote: > > > > On Sun, 17 Jan 2021, Marc Haber wrote: > > > Absolutely. The Installation Experience is one of the first contacts > > > with the distribution for most people¹, and since we all know that the >

Re: Making Debian available

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:36:58AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sat, 16 Jan 2021 10:58:33 +, "Andrew M.A. Cater" > wrote: > >It already does: the second or third question gives you the option to install > > non-free firmware, if needed, from a USB stick. That m

Re: Making Debian available

On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 10:50:19PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 09:27:28AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > The installer with non-free firmware built in would, I think, be better. > > I know it exists, but last time I wasn't able to use it because I needed a > > testing

Re: Making Debian available

On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 03:15:14PM -0500, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 09:35:01AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > The point is to make things easier for our users. Right now, we're doing > > that for you but not for the users who don't care whether firmware is > > non-free.

Re: CentOS and Debian/Ubuntu release cycles

On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 04:25:54PM +, Stephan Lachnit wrote: > Hi all, > > maybe you already have heard it, CentOS is basically dead now. It used to be > an exact RHEL clone, but now it's kind of an RHEL beta [1]. > > Now what does that have to do with Debian? > > When we look into why peop

Re: A Small Organisation Server as a Debian Pure Blend

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 02:37:11PM +, Federico Ceratto wrote: > As Joseph pointed out, the use-case for the Small Organisation Server > is practically > the same as FreedomBox, either installed from image or with "apt > install freedombox". > > I find the name "Small Organisation" a bit mislea

Re: RFC: Replacing vim-tiny with nano in essential packages

On 16/03/2020 12:15, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Hi Thomas! On 3/16/20 12:31 PM, Thomas Pircher wrote: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I would like to suggest to replace vim-tiny with nano as the default minimal editor installed with debootstrap and therefore debian-installer. Would yo

Re: Another question for a license

On 08/12/2019 13:27, JungHwan Kang wrote: Hi, forks. I appreciate your previous answer to my question about the open-source licenses. May I ask another question? 1. Is it no matter who releases his Linux distribution under his license for commercially?     the distribution is made of modifie

Re: getting rid of "testing"

On 26/06/2019 19:58, Michael Stone wrote: > On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 02:23:40PM -0500, Andrej Shadura wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Jun 2019 at 14:13, Michael Stone wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 03:10:27PM +0200, Philip Hands wrote: >>> >I'm perfectly capable of typing slink when I meant stretch. 

Re: Looking for a technical writer to update the Debian Handbook

On 03/05/2019 12:25, Iván Alemán wrote: > Hello Raphael, > > I can help with some chapters if you don't find the technical writer. > > Will contact you directly. > > Best, > > On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 12:25, Raphael Hertzog > wrote: > > Hello, > > Roland and I

Re: Reg: Debian 9.8 version support to IntelNUC7i5BNH

On 15/03/2019 13:28, Srinivas Rao wrote: > > Hi Debian Devel team, > > > Currently, I working on IntelNUC7i5BNH.  I would like to use Debian > 9.8 version in IntelNUC7i5BNH. can I use Debian 9.8 version and is it > support to IntelNUC7i5BNH? > > > I have seen in the below link Debian 9.2.1 (stretc

Re: Lots and lots of tiny node.js packages

On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 12:04:27AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Nov 01, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Can you explain why you don't aggregate these into bigger packages, > > for use in Debian ? > Because the node.js ecosystem is toxic and broken in encouraging > relasing software which embeds very

Re: Proposed documentation, please comment! [was Re: Bug#838919: debian-installer: please calculate swap parition according to max RAM...]

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 10:24:06AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 07:17:15PM +0200, Bart Schouten wrote: > > I just mean is that you shouldn't try to expand the scope of your userbase > > beyond what is reasonable possible because it is not possible anyway > > That is a fa

Re: [Request] Is there any way to get the full source codes of Debian?

There is also the full set of DVDs for source code for Jessie - look on cdimage.debian.org http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.5.0/source/iso-dvd/ 10 DVDs Hope this helps, Andy C

Re: Summary of the DebConf firmware discussion

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 04:33:04PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Hi folks, > > > (Non-free) Firmware in Debian > = > > Background > -- > > Our users are finding problems with current common hardware - much of > it depends on loadable firmware. Much (most?) o

Re: --> APT's New Version <--

On Tue, Apr 01, 2014 at 05:39:04PM +0200, The deity team wrote: > After much discussion, the deity team has now picked an official > stanza on what a version number says about the stability and quality > of a software product: > > 16 years after the initial announcement[0] we are pleased to announ

Re: Valve games for Debian Developers

On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 04:40:50PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Shachar Shemesh dijo [Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 04:20:07PM +0200]: > > On 23/01/14 13:45, Richard Hartmann wrote: > > > The risk of any "outsider" to become a DD for this offer alone is slim to > > > none. > > > > You're forgetting the free

Re: Apt-get question

On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 07:34:27PM +, Roelof Wobben wrote: > Hello, > > I wonder if there is a manual how to install/port apt-get to another distro. > I work now on a slackware based distro and maybe I can make a debian based > distro of it. > > Roelof > >

Re: Proposal: switch default desktop to xfce

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:09:30PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Wouter wrote: > > > >The last time I used the full stack of CDs where there was no decent > >alternative option was when I was helping a customer prepare a set of > >installation instructions for a code escrow situation. > > > >Since

Re: Proposal: switch default desktop to xfce

On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 04:41:00PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > On 26 Oct 2013, at 16:08, "Andrew M.A. Cater" > > wrote: > > > > That wouldbe my preference - a tasksel change for "no desktop" "KDE" "GNOME" > &

Re: Proposal: switch default desktop to xfce

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 11:44:48PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Andy Cater wrote: > > > >I think it would be a good idea to have the netinst have an > >additional option to select desktop easily including the option for > >"command line only, no graphical desktop" as default. > > We already have

Re: Proposal: switch default desktop to xfce

On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 01:41:42AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > I guess not everybody understands the reasons for Debian choosing a > default desktop, so I'll explain/expand them here. > > 1. We have several types of installation media (netboot, netinst, DVD, >BD) where we can happily ins

Re: Bug#726393: general: Possible malware infections in source packages

On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:12:47AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:54:36 +0200, Dominik George > wrote: > >> Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus scanner > >> while > >> downloading. > > > >Using a gateway anti-virus scanner for downloads from the Debi

Re: Longer maintainance for (former) stable releases of Debian (Re: Dreamhost dumps Debian)

On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 09:31:06AM +0200, Mike Gabriel wrote: > Hi Charles, > > On Di 20 Aug 2013 02:04:40 CEST Charles Plessy wrote: > > >Altogether, it is a lot of work, but if we have enough people for > >doing it, think that it would be very positive for us. > > /me raises his hand for givin

Re: how can we help DSA save money

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 07:13:57PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Steven Chamberlain > > > On 2013-07-22 15:49, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > It's not, it's a limitation of resizing a raid and that requiring about > > > a billion seeks across the disk surface. > > > > I didn't realise it was

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 11:30:12PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On May 12, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > Thus, let's just switch dpkg-deb's default to xz. Lowering bandwidth usage > > is worth the extra build time cost. > Agreed, this looks like a good idea. > > -- > ciao, > Marco The only probl

Re: Looking for maintainers of Spacewalk packages

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 06:08:43AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Hi, > I'm developer of Spacewalk [1,2]. Spacewalk is an open source > (GPLv2) Linux systems management solution. It is the upstream > community project from which the Red Hat Network Satellite product > is derived. > > Recently we a

Re: Xen, Squeeze, and Beyond

On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 04:53:56PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > Hi folks, > > There was a thread here a little while back about the status of Xen in > future Debian releases. It left me rather confused, and I'm hoping to > find some answers (which I will then happily document in the wiki). > > A

Re: Debian, universal operating system?

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:53:55PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > If memory serves correctly, that slogan was added to the web > site without discussion, and was never ratified by the project, > though I do remember Bruce being very pleased about it. > > It certainly has not b

Re: An introduction to multiarch

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:57:12PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Hi, > > after listening to the "Multiarch round table" talk at Debconf I feel > that the talk was targeted at people already familiar with the subject > and jumped right in at full speed. Someone new to the idea was > probably

Re: Debian source code search engine

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 02:44:02AM +0200, Peter De Wachter wrote: > Op Mon, 25 May 2009 03:36:28 +0100 > schreef Ben Hutchings : > > > Cool - that looks really useful. However, it looks like you're just > > running "dpkg-source -x" to unpack packages. This misses any Debian > > changes made usin

Re: RFC: preventing accidental deletion of system directories

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 03:50:32PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 13:51 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > To get those Vistaesque questions, "alias rm='rm -i'" is surely not > > worth a > > package. It's slightly larger in scope, but only slightly, as > > removing > >

Re: The 30 most popular packages missing in Debian

On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 11:57:25PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > One of the lists from popcon.debian.org I find most interesting, is > the list of popular packages currently missing in Debian, > http://popcon.debian.org/unknown/by_vote>. I understand it to > list the packages our users wo

Re: Bug#457318: ITP: qmail -- a secure, reliable, efficient, simple message transfer agent

On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:12:09PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > Miros/law Baran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ah, but it's been there, once. I remember that my first Debian > > installation included in the default setup all the accounts used by > > qmail (if not the qmail itself). > > OK, that'

Re: Bug#457318: ITP: qmail -- a secure, reliable, efficient, simple message transfer agent

On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 06:54:32PM +0100, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: > Quoting Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Why was it removed from Debian GNU/Linux in the first place!? > > > > It's never been in Debian. The source package is in non-fre

Re: Agreement between parties achieved on IRC (Re: virtualbox-ose: package hijack?)

On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 05:33:40PM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > Just a quick note to say that after some discussion in #debian-devel > involving Daniel, Patrick, and Michael, and fostered by various DDs > (azeem, buxy, Ganneff, myself), a solution to resolve this situation was > achieved. > Can

Re: I don't understand Debian

On Fri, Jun 22, 2007 at 08:24:22PM +0200, ignatius wrote: > I have two questions that really concerned me. > > - Why it's Debian that fixes bugs and security holes? Why it isn't > upstream developers? How can you be sure that all security holes will be > found or revealed? (for instance an old s

Re: Testers needed: aptitude 0.4.5.2

On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 10:23:27AM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > Hi all, > > The ported aptitude should merge its database of automatically > installed packages into the apt database -- any packages listed as > automatic in either database will become automatic. > Dude - YOU ROCK :) This is

Re: Using standardized SI prefixes

On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 02:32:35PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2007 at 10:15:25PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 15:25 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > > > > You seem to fancy the K-is-1024--k-is-1000 convention > > > > No, I hate that convention. K and k

Re: i386 33meg boot iso

On Tue, Jun 05, 2007 at 11:14:14AM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo [Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 11:19:25PM -0400]: > > To: All > > > This list is targetted at the development of Debian, not at user > support. You will find better answers if you try > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I think you m

Re: Bug#427297: ITP: sturmbahnfahrer -- simulated obstacle course for automobiles

On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 04:00:28PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 02:30:43AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz a écrit : > > Package: wnpp > > * Package name: sturmbahnfahrer > > Dear Miriam, > > I have very bad feelings when I read the name of this game. It is a very > bad taste pla

Re: Results for General Resolution: Altering package upload rules

On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 09:05:10PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On pe, 2007-03-23 at 10:32 +0100, BALLABIO GERARDO wrote: > > > Debian Project Secretary wrote: > > > > At the end of voting, with 313 Ballots resulting in 260 votes from 257 > > > develo

Re: Bug#400070: RFP: gaia -- Google Earth client

On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:39:42PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > [Fabricio \"aybabtu\" Cannini] > > Call it a n00b question (ok, it IS a n00b question :) , but if the > > whole problem is about google's data, why don't google GPLs the > > program (google earth) ? > It's _not_ Google's dat

Re: AMD64: etch and uploads

Frank Kuester wrote > Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In order to fulfill this requirement, is there a best practice / any > > possible way to "convert" an amd64 box which has been installed from > > debian-amd64 to an official debian amd64 box? > You could always try what I

Re: Bug#361418: [Proposal] new Debian menu structure

On Mon, Apr 17, 2006 at 02:51:31PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > > Outdated...? The term "Ham Radio" seems a _lot_ more common than > "Amateur Radio" -- for instance, Ham Radio seems to be heard quite often > on the news (usually in connection with disasters), whereas, to be > honest I can't say I'

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