On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 08:39:17AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 15:08:18 +0200, "Andrea Pappacoda" > <and...@pappacoda.it> wrote: > >On Sun Apr 27, 2025 at 2:18 PM CEST, Marc Haber wrote: > >> Useradd has grown most of that functionality in the last two decades. > >> That leaves no space for adduser between useradd and sysusers. At > >> least not enouch space to waste any more life time on it. > >
To be strictly local: there are probably far more machines in the world running Debian, Ubuntu and Debian derivatives than current Red Hat or SUSE if you think of Linux machines with a full OS: for containers, who knows :) > >I think I do not fully understand what you mean: are you saying that > >adduser is useless outside of maintainer scripts? > > I am saying that adduser was written in a time when useradd had about > a fifth of its current features, and that the local admin can use > useradd to create local users as comfortably nowadays, and be portable > between distributions. adduser has developed into a helper for > maintainer scripts, and I was told a few weeks ago that the months of > my life I spent improving adduser are going down the drain. > I don't often add users, but when I do I use useradd to add the user and than to add the user to a custom group. That's finger memory but it's constant over 20+ years. It's a Debianism - but it works, and I'm grateful to you for maintaining it. > >In my opinion adduser has great value outside of maintainer scripts! > >But I'm sure you know better than me, so I'm ready to change my mind. > > Take a look at current useradd and decide wehther adduser actually > adds a value other than fitting your finger memory. > Will do - but thanks for your hard work. For a userbase value of one: *I* appreciate it. With every good wish, as ever, Andy Cater (amaca...@debian.org) > Greetings > Marc > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header > Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | > Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402 >
