Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
nse is swift: there was a debian developer wrongfully arrested for running a TOR exit node. their key was revoked immediately. How was this incident detected? On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 12:07 PM lkcl wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 7:59 PM Adam McKenna wrote: > > You are talking about a d

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
keys are compromised and an attacker uploads a compromised package? Do we have ways of detecting these breaches or do we rely solely on user reports? On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 11:22 AM lkcl wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 6:28 PM Adam McKenna wrote: > > > > > i believe the

Re: Concerns about Security of packages in Debain OS and the Operating system itself.

2022-05-23 Thread Adam McKenna
> i believe the answer is in the question. debian is based on distributed trust. i did the analysis (took 3 weeks): it is literally the only distro in the world with an inviolate chain of trust from a large keyring dating back 20 years that is itself GPG-signed as a package, with a package distrib

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-14 Thread Adam McKenna
d non-DD's. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-13 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:11:42PM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: > Likewise, there are plenty of DD's whose S/N ratio is pretty high, and are (pretty low, that is..) --Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Non-DD's in debian-legal

2006-06-13 Thread Adam McKenna
s that block development. Putting it in terms of DD's versus non-DD's is just prejudice and elitism at its worst. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-25 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 11:46:11AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > But a number of people were taken in by this social > engineering crack and failed to ask for the real ID. How is it a 'crack' if the information on the ID was all accurate? --Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: Bug#353277: Please reject to rule on the ndiswrapper question

2006-03-05 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 04:47:17PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Well, I agree with you that overruling the foundation documents is out of > scope for the technical committee; except the tech ctte has not been asked to > interpret or overrule the foundation documents. The Social Contract > mandat

Re: Please reject to rule on the ndiswrapper question

2006-02-28 Thread Adam McKenna
an consider it individually, or even jointly, and make individual recommendations to ftpmaster like any other developers. It would be inappropriate for them to make an official statement about it. I tried, poorly, to make this point in the other thread. Thanks for elucidating. --Adam -- Adam Mc

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-28 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 12:06:51AM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote: > However, some people like to define "Debian" just as "main" and use the > main section as the single acceptable set of free software. Which > is, of course, wrong, because requirements for contrib are defined by > DFSG, exactly as for

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-28 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 02:38:53PM +0100, Gabor Gombas wrote: > One point that nobody raised so far: _reliable_ working on ndiswrapper > depends on the 16k-stack patch that is not available in Debian AFAIK. > Without that patch, drivers requiring ndiswrapper (being free or not) > only work by pure

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 04:45:04PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > But I don't know; everyone seems to be dancing around the actual > question: are there any free drivers for which ndiswrapper is useful? > CIPE has been mentioned, but it has also been said that ndiswrapper > was not useful in t

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 05:03:25PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > The definition of "contrib" is that it is for a package which is a > wrapper for non-free-software. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [E

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
y is compiling evidence that any of those others are actually being done, however, the ndiswrapper-in-main proponents (including myself) are arguing that that is beside the point. Packages are not required to be useful in order to be in Debian. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
t; implemented, then I think the proposed use should not count. I think it's the task of those who would ask the tech committee to overrule the maintainer's judgement and remove ndiswrapper from Debian to prove that ndiswrapper is not useful without non-free software, not the other way a

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 05:42:51PM -0500, Michael Poole wrote: > This lists several signs that a package requires another package, but > it is not presented as an exhaustive list. If you use a broad > definition of "require", it is reasonable to exclude ndiswrapper from > main on the grounds that

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:36:54PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > The tech-ctte is there to address technical disputes. This isn't a technical dispute, it's an ideological one. The technical details very clearly support keeping ndiswrapper in main. --Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMA

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:48:51PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > The question is not whether there is such a dependency declared; the > question is whether the software is useful without the use of non-free > software. All right, who pushed the 'thread reset' button? --Adam -- To UNSUBSC

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 02:19:05PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Let's see, maybe you didn't read the paragraph where I said: I did. > Is this CIPE? Or is that some other case? No, it's not CIPE. I guess you have some more reading to do. --Adam -- Adam McKen

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 01:50:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The question is not what problems it would cause. The problems are side > > effects. It should stay in main because it is free software that is able to

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
ne of which is inaccessibility to the installer. The overall effect is decreased utility for our users. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
elongs in main. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 11:29:38AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > It seems to me that there is no reason ndiswrapper can't be available > to the installer whether it's in main or contrib. AFAIK, it would need to be on the first CD. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL P

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
nted laptop (if such a thing even exists) in order to get support for their devices. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 27, 2006 at 10:33:47AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Taking it out of main moves us in the wrong direction if our goal is to > > give our users a *usable* operating system, as opposed to some kind of > &

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-27 Thread Adam McKenna
system, as opposed to some kind of 'proof of concept' OS that some people here seem to want to create, but that the majority of our users will not want to use. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-24 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Feb 24, 2006 at 09:56:46AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > I think this is clearly incorrect. The DFSG and the SC do not say > anything about the requirements for main that I can see. > > And it is the *job* of the tech-ctte to resolve disputes. I don't enjoy speaking with you, and I

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-23 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 01:30:25PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Help me out then. You seemed to suggest that not putting ndiswrapper > in main would be to "ignore rules that are very clearly laid out in > the SC and DFSG." I suggested that the CTTE overriding the developer's judgement in t

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-22 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 05:55:01PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > As far as the second statement being the reason that most of us want > > ndiswrapper in main, that may be true, but it is no excuse to ignore rules > &

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-22 Thread Adam McKenna
s the second statement being the reason that most of us want ndiswrapper in main, that may be true, but it is no excuse to ignore rules that are very clearly laid out in the SC and DFSG. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [E

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-22 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:20:47AM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 09:32:26PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > Well, yeah, I am, since I'm both on ftpmaster and on the tech ctte, the > > latter of which is considering a resolution to move it right now.

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-22 Thread Adam McKenna
#x27;ve already > indicated I don't accept, than actually talk about it properly? Because you're wrong. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-22 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Feb 22, 2006 at 03:33:19PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Whether CIPE and Windows driver development "count" isn't a fact, it's > an opinion. Since they're both thoroughly pointless, I don't think they do. The fact is it doesn't matter whether they 'count'. They exist, and that is enough

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-21 Thread Adam McKenna
t have for this software, and since it unambiguously fulfills the requirements, it should stay in main. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-21 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 05:43:59PM +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 01:45:24PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: > > > Please also stop insulting ndiswrapper users and developers by calling > > > it a "warez wrapper". > > Actualy, since such "ndis drivers" are often provided with v

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-21 Thread Adam McKenna
und argument that is not similar to "CIPE, and Windows driver developers who want to test on Linux don't count." --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 03:36:16PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 09:01:40PM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > > IMHO, the main purpose of contrib is to avoid shipping things on CD that > > depend on programs in non-free. It is not a section that we put programs

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 09:13:15PM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > The driver should stay in main and hooks should be written into the s/driver/package.. --Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-02-20 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sun, Feb 19, 2006 at 01:45:24PM -0500, Andres Salomon wrote: > And for fuck's sake, stop filling up my inbox w/ this crap. I'm not > doing a thing unless either a) you people come to a consensus on the > issue (which you have not in the past threads, and probably never will), > or b) a governin

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main (was: Bug#353277: should be in contrib)

2006-02-20 Thread Adam McKenna
ith non-free drivers (from floppy/cd) during the install process, I'd say that it makes even more sense for ndiswrapper to go into main (and maybe even into base). --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Honesty in Debian (was Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-14 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 03:54:23PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > No, like chosing ati over nvidia for graphic cards, or silicon image over > others for SATA cards. Wait a minute, did I miss a memo? ATI isn't the devil anymore? --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Amendment to GR on GFDL, and the changes to the Social Contract

2006-02-10 Thread Adam McKenna
ssue. The changes could only have been referred to as 'editorial' if wide consensus and understanding had already been reached about their effects. I think it's fair to say that this was not the case at the time. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL P

Re: changing default ping

2005-10-25 Thread Adam McKenna
e. > > > It's not. > > What if they are *wrong* then? > This is not supposed to happen. Famous last words... --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bruce Perens hosts party at OSCON Wednesday night

2005-08-03 Thread Adam McKenna
ting and/or report him to the relevant authorities if you want satisfaction. --Adam [1] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#ads -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian Installation process

2005-08-03 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 02:18:01PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > > - > > Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger > > Téléchargez le ici ! > > Non merci, je ne suis pas intéressé. Par contre, Debian est assez > opposé à ce qu

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-16 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 01:00:17PM -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > > But I don't think it's good for our users for Debian to have rights > that the user don't have. We are only concerned with the rights that apply to the software, not the name. The users have all of the same rights to the software

Re: RES: /usr/lib vs /usr/libexec

2005-05-18 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, May 18, 2005 at 03:38:33AM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: > This just seems like change for the sake of change, with trivial benefits, > if any. I agree, and I admit to not having read this whole thread, but has anyone made a serious argument as to why we need yet another directory for non-u

removing ipfwadm

2005-05-16 Thread Adam McKenna
ll request its removal. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: NEW handling: About rejects, and kernels (Was: Re: NEW handling ...)

2005-03-25 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 12:48:14PM -0600, Adam Majer wrote: > Andreas Barth wrote: > > > Actually, I believe the Debian project as whole _wants_ to getting > > > >software released. That was at least the decision in all GRs where > >people didn't hide the intents ("editorial changes"). > > Indeed.

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-15 Thread Adam McKenna
ropose to 'ban' someone from d-d? --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-17 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 10:05:00AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Op do, 16-12-2004 te 17:07 -0800, schreef Adam McKenna: > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 01:13:11AM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > I think Wouter is only asking for reciprocity here. If they don't care >

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-16 Thread Adam McKenna
s are our users and free software. Just because someone works for an ISV or develops on/for proprietary software does not make them a second class user. That said, I am not arguing for or against LCC, I just didn't like the tone of Wouter's e-mail, or the sentiment implied in it. --Adam -

Re: Linux Core Consortium

2004-12-16 Thread Adam McKenna
s of how you feel about proprietary software, it is someone else's work and they are free to sell or license it as they see fit. I don't see how someone advocating "freedom" can in the same (virtual) breath presume to dictate what other people do with their work. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Quote: Debian and Democracy at Advocato.org

2003-10-08 Thread Adam McKenna
dth on it? Advogato has discussion boards. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-10-06 Thread Adam McKenna
and is > certainly not binding on other developers who are making changes to > packages in *unstable*. I don't see how the package being in unstable affects any part of this argument. Will the feature backport be less desirable when the kernel-source package is released in a stable

Re: Timeout of ITP's

2003-09-27 Thread Adam McKenna
lf or anyone else who would be > interested) can go ahead and "hijack" it? I couldn't seem to find any > relevant information regarding this in the developers reference, the > policy manual or on google. Thunderbird is too important a package for us not to be distributing. I think a

Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

2003-08-30 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 09:20:53AM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > The comparison to mailing list software makes no sense. Maybe not in the context of viruses, but for the "Joe Job" problem it does. Viruses can and should be filtered out before they reach the C-R system. --Adam --

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-29 Thread Adam McKenna
systems) are merely stopgap measures that try to make up for SMTP's shortcomings. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-29 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:12:58PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 11:16, Adam McKenna wrote: > > When the next address-spoofing virus hits, if I need to update my filters > > again, I'll make a better effort to do it ASAP instead of letting it go for > &

Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

2003-08-29 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:20:49PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 01:03:37AM -0700, Adam McKenna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > > > Also, I don't have any hard data to support this, but it's obvious to > > me that the volume of mail

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-29 Thread Adam McKenna
fected due to my misconfiguration, but it was user error (or laziness in this case) that caused this, not a fundamental problem with the software. When the next address-spoofing virus hits, if I need to update my filters again, I'll make a better effort to do it ASAP instead of letting it g

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-28 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 10:27:43AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Adam McKenna ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > I suggest you take these suggestions to the TMDA worker's mailing list at > > tmda.net, and file wishlist bugs against TMDA for each desired feature. > > Thi

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-28 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:10:07PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 08:21:22AM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 12:35:25PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > > > - TMDA should carry a warning to the user about possible consequences &g

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-28 Thread Adam McKenna
suggest you take these suggestions to the TMDA worker's mailing list at tmda.net, and file wishlist bugs against TMDA for each desired feature. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

2003-08-28 Thread Adam McKenna
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 08:20:52AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:39:43 -0700, Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Yes, it does present a very good example of poorly written C-R software. > >Paul should switch to TMDA. > > In which way wou

Re: MEI Whitelist Autoresponse

2003-08-28 Thread Adam McKenna
hat you are a human. > > I almost wonder if someone sent this intentionally in light of the > TDMA bug thread. > > Either way, it presents a convincing argument. Yes, it does present a very good example of poorly written C-R software. Paul should switch to TMDA. --Adam --

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 05:40:46PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Adam McKenna wrote: > > TMDA does not ship with any defaults, except a couple of customizable > > text files (templates). It is entirely up to the user to create a > > TMDA configurati

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-27 Thread Adam McKenna
that the user should be sure to whitelist if he expects to be able to communicate with the BTS. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-27 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 07:49:27PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:30:07PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Adam McKenna wrote: > > > The arguments are facile and specious, I do not intend to waste my > > > precious time responding to them. > >

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-27 Thread Adam McKenna
rsten or anyone else wants to have a debate about which of these arguments apply to TMDA, and why, then I suggest he take his complaints to the upstream mailing lists @tmda.net. I will not debate this in the BTS or on any debian list. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: NM non-process

2003-08-07 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 12:55:14AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 02:41:44PM -0700, Adam McKenna wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:25:58PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > > Trivialities such as people refusing to disclose their real names &

Re: NM non-process

2003-08-07 Thread Adam McKenna
en why should Debian (and Debian's users) trust them? --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Debian conference in the US?

2003-05-26 Thread Adam McKenna
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:03:38AM -0700, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > that north america contains not one, but three countries: Candada, USA, > and Mexico Candada? Is that near Canadia? --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-04 Thread Adam McKenna
local address). This is the correct behavior. I don't know what Darren is talking about but I've never seen a mail server that refused to accept e-mails with a local envelope sender from remote hosts. It should be obvious why this wouldn't be a good idea. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-04 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 09:22:35AM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > On 2002-12-03, Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Please enlighten me, anyway: Why is bouncing the full body of the > >> mail you received from a person who claims to be Adam back to Adam a >

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-03 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 11:52:38PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > Today, Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 11:49:09PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > >> Right. I just thought up a scheme to exploit this, based on the fake > >> sourc

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-03 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 09:58:28AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 09:55:34AM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > > The key issue here is that the mail isn't blocked. It's simply held in > > another place until confirmed. It doesn't become a "f

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-03 Thread Adam McKenna
nt. > > Are there suppost to be some sort of checks placed on this address? He's talking about the envelope sender address on the confirmation messages, which is empty (<>), the same as for bounce messages. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-03 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 06:16:48PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 09:55:34AM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > > BTW, anyone who e-mails you and then asks you to confirm your reply is > > either using broken software, or doesn't have their outgoing mail > &g

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-03 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 03:40:53AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 09:26:34AM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > > > It's easy to be effective if you don't care about false positives. > > Yes, and unless you consider people who either: > > 1) are

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-03 Thread Adam McKenna
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 05:13:42PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 08:56:10AM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 11:49:09PM +0100, Andreas Fuchs wrote: > > > Thus, my conclusion: These things are evil. Don't use them or somebody >

Re: Fwd: Please confirm your message

2002-12-03 Thread Adam McKenna
ion, and at that time it will be easy enough to just turn it off and use something else. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Discussion - non-free software removal

2002-11-25 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 07:20:39PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:42:39PM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > > Perhaps some of us feel that "The Way Things Are Now" is consistent with > > our > > Social Contract and our list of committme

Re: Why do system users have shells?

2002-11-25 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:34:52PM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > wu-ftpd HEH. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Discussion - non-free software removal

2002-11-25 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 04:19:45PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 11:22:42AM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:56:05PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:56:46AM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > &

Re: Discussion - non-free software removal

2002-11-25 Thread Adam McKenna
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 12:56:05PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 01:56:46AM -0800, Adam McKenna wrote: > > Why does the "GR-opposition party" need to stand "for" anything, other than > > preserving the status quo? > > Thanks for

Re: Discussion - non-free software removal

2002-11-25 Thread Adam McKenna
tant data point, I'd think... Yes, someone write that down. Michelle in Strabourg doesn't need non-free. Anecdotal evidence is so much more compelling when it supports your cause, eh? --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Discussion - non-free software removal

2002-11-25 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 06:22:36PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2002 at 12:30:31PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2002 at 05:47:39PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > This certainly flies in the face of the common argument that Free > > > Software only "ch

Re: XFree 4.2.0 - again

2002-04-15 Thread Adam McKenna
ObPleaseDon'tFeedTheTroll --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bug#141345: ITP: sextractor -- Builds a catalogue of objects from an astronomical image.

2002-04-05 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sat, Apr 06, 2002 at 02:59:32AM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > What does a sex tractor have to do with astronomy? Well, if you were having sex on a tractor, you'd probably be outside, looking up at the stars. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PRO

Re: neat mutt bug.

2001-09-16 Thread Adam McKenna
On Sun, Sep 16, 2001 at 12:34:22PM +0200, Martin F Krafft wrote: > also sprach Adam McKenna (on Sun, 16 Sep 2001 03:17:37AM -0700): > > Interesting highlighting bug in mutt -- could confuse an unsuspecting person > > into thinking Branden actually signed this. > > oooh. this

neat mutt bug.

2001-09-16 Thread Adam McKenna
uot; gpg: Fingerprint: 1573 D544 73C3 988F 0096 3E4F EA4C 661F 2B46 A27C [-- End of PGP output --] [-- The following data is signed --] Interesting highlighting bug in mutt -- could confuse an unsuspecting person into thinking Branden actually signed this. [-- End of signed data --] --Adam --

Re: reopening ECN bugreport/netbase

2001-09-05 Thread Adam McKenna
27;t want /etc/sysctl.conf to become another debconf > [mis]managed config file. I agree -- sysctl.conf should never be touched by the distribution -- it is for local settings, specific to each machine, and there should never be a chance that it could possibly be overwritten automatically, as

Re: why dig ? I wanna use nslookup !

2001-05-02 Thread Adam McKenna
of his software to be included in main. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

404's

2001-04-30 Thread Adam McKenna
.25.206.10 80] Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main libxaw6 4.0.3-1 404 Not Found [IP: 192.25.206.10 80] Err http://http.us.debian.org unstable/main libxaw7 4.0.3-1 404 Not Found [IP: 192.25.206.10 80] -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:23:23PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:18:40AM -0500, Adam McKenna wrote: > > > if this is the case the solution is fixing broken mailers, many of > > > them are Free software so why have patches to support M-F-T

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-04 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 09:07:27PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > > have been added to Mail-Followup-To by other Mutt users, and I don't use > > the > > lists command at all. > > in that case there would be something funny going on, here is my > theory: > > you post to list, you M-F-To: is set to

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-03 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 08:36:54PM -0900, Ethan Benson wrote: > > listed in Mail-Followup-To. The thing that bugs me about this is that mutt > > often adds other list-readers' e-mail addresses to Mail-Followup-To, > > effectively rendering this feature useless. > > try reading the FM. in mutt 1

Re: bugs + rant + constructive criticism (long)

2001-01-03 Thread Adam McKenna
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 08:41:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 11:38:13PM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote: > > and respect my Mail-Followup-To header next time. > > I'd sooner killfile you than respect a lame Mail-Followup-To like this: > > Mail-Followup-To: Peter Palfra

Re: maybe ITP rsync mirror script for pools

2001-01-03 Thread Adam McKenna
ward mirroring and producing their own CD images with the debian-cd package. --Adam -- Adam McKenna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | "No matter how much it changes, http://flounder.net/publickey.html | technology's just a bunch of wires GPG: 17A4 11F7 5E7E C2E7 08AA| con

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