On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 10:42:54AM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> Le mercredi, 3 décembre 2014, 10.20:32 W. Martin Borgert a écrit :
> > Would it be OK to abuse experimental for new upstreams during
> > freeze?
>
> during freezes, where unstable should only have
> changes targeted at testin
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 09:39:48PM +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> > > Hi. You assert that even for leaf packages we should not make changes
> > > in unstable targeted beyond jessie. I can see an argument for that
> > > prior to the important bug deadline. However, past that point, I don't
> > > see
❦ 3 décembre 2014 19:54 +0100, Stephan Seitz
:
>>Feature 2: if the first user created via the installer logs in via a
>>non-local mechanism (typically ssh) [3], they can still play and record
>>audio. If you expect that the first user created via the installer is
>
> Yes, and playing audio via
Andrey,
On Wed, Dec 3, 2014, at 17:08, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 03:36:37PM +, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > Didier> (Snipping others' parts, and moving to -devel)
> >
> > Didier> Given the (current) small exposure of
> > Didier> testing-proposed-updates (aka th
> Vincent Bernat writes:
> ❦ 3 décembre 2014 16:47 GMT, Ivan Shmakov :
>>> The problem with those groups is that they are not fine grained
>>> enough. For example, the video group gives access to the
>>> framebuffer device (the user can do a screenshot) or to a webcam
>>> (the user
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❦ 3 décembre 2014 16:47 GMT, Ivan Shmakov :
> > The problem with those groups is that they are not fine grained
> > enough. For example, the video group gives access to the framebuffer
> > device (the user can do a screenshot) or to a webcam (the user can
> > spy another user). By encoura
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 03:08:55PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
Feature 2: if the first user created via the installer logs in via a
non-local mechanism (typically ssh) [3], they can still play and record
audio. If you expect that the first user created via the installer is
Yes, and playing aud
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On 03/12/14 16:44, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
> > We are talking about the anti-feature of adding UID=1000 to the audio
> > group in the installer.
>
> BTW, what about adding that same user to the ‘sudo’ group (which
> D-I does; or formerly did, IIRC)? Does Logind also take care of
>
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Kind of like what old-guard Free/Op
> Josselin Mouette writes:
[…]
> We are talking about the anti-feature of adding UID=1000 to the audio
> group in the installer. This is only relevant for desktop
> installations, and all desktop tasks in the same installer bring
> logind (formerly consolekit).
BTW, what about
On 03/12/14 14:46, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 14:25 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
>> The problem with those groups is that they are not fine grained
>> enough.
>
> If more granularity is needed, what's hindering introduction of even
> more groups: like an image group and splittin
> Vincent Bernat writes:
> ❦ 3 décembre 2014 13:55 +0100, Adam Borowski :
[…]
>>> This “adduser first-user audio” was already useless in squeeze and
>>> it hasn’t changed.
>> Only if you run logind or consolekit. Without them (ie, on headless
>> boxes or with classic-type WMs) you
Hi!
On Tue, 2014-12-02 at 06:46:33 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 12/01/2014 04:26 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> > No, triggers unfortunately are not that simple: if you install/upgrade
> > openstack-dashboard together with some of the packages it wants a
> > trigger on, $1="triggered" will some
On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 15:49 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 3 décembre 2014 15:46 +0100, Svante Signell :
>
> >> The problem with those groups is that they are not fine grained
> >> enough. For example, the video group gives access to the framebuffer
> >> device (the user can do a screenshot)
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 03:36:37PM +, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Didier> (Snipping others' parts, and moving to -devel)
>
> Didier> Given the (current) small exposure of
> Didier> testing-proposed-updates (aka the repository has very few
> Didier> users, therefore the packages there
On 03/12/14 15:36, Sam Hartman wrote:
> You assert that even for leaf packages we should not make changes
> in unstable targeted beyond jessie. I can see an argument for that
> prior to the important bug deadline. However, past that point, I don't
> see value in avoiding changes to leaf packages
> "Didier" == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
Didier> (Snipping others' parts, and moving to -devel)
Didier> Given the (current) small exposure of
Didier> testing-proposed-updates (aka the repository has very few
Didier> users, therefore the packages there get very few testing),
On 03/12/14 14:28, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Josselin Mouette writes:
>> We are talking about the anti-feature of adding UID=1000 to the audio
>> group in the installer.
>
> Are we? I was talking about making audio work for the first-user. I
> see that as a feature.
It's a trade-off between utility
Jenny zhou wrote:
> I requested many time. but my resume is still on your web site.
This has been reported as a bug (as per ml policy)
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=769807
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❦ 3 décembre 2014 15:46 +0100, Svante Signell :
>> The problem with those groups is that they are not fine grained
>> enough. For example, the video group gives access to the framebuffer
>> device (the user can do a screenshot) or to a webcam (the user can spy
>> another user). By encouraging t
Quoting Josselin Mouette (2014-12-03 14:40:48)
> Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> We support non-systemd-as-pid-1 configurations, but they still run
>> logind through systemd-shim.
>
> systemd-shim is not essential. You can still install jessie without
> systemd, and hence without running logind.
>
> This
On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 14:25 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> ❦ 3 décembre 2014 13:55 +0100, Adam Borowski :
>
> >> In both cases (systemd-sysv or systemd-shim), ACLs should be correctly
> >> set for the current user.
> >>
> >> This “adduser first-user audio” was already useless in squeeze and it
Greetings,
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 02:48:33AM +, Jenny zhou wrote:
HI,
I requested many time. but my resume is still on your web site.
Can you help me to delete that?
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/07/doc_9rK_X0lC5.doc
I do not see how/why this would not be possible. However
Quoting Vincent Bernat (2014-12-03 14:25:47)
> ❦ 3 décembre 2014 13:55 +0100, Adam Borowski :
>
>>> In both cases (systemd-sysv or systemd-shim), ACLs should be
>>> correctly set for the current user.
>>>
>>> This “adduser first-user audio” was already useless in squeeze and
>>> it hasn’t chan
Josselin Mouette writes:
> Bjørn Mork wrote:
> > We support non-systemd-as-pid-1 configurations, but they still run
> > logind through systemd-shim.
>
> systemd-shim is not essential. You can still install jessie without
> systemd, and hence without run
Bjørn Mork wrote:
> We support non-systemd-as-pid-1 configurations, but they still run
> logind through systemd-shim.
systemd-shim is not essential. You can still install jessie without
systemd, and hence without running logind.
This is completely off-t
❦ 3 décembre 2014 13:55 +0100, Adam Borowski :
>> In both cases (systemd-sysv or systemd-shim), ACLs should be correctly
>> set for the current user.
>>
>> This “adduser first-user audio” was already useless in squeeze and it
>> hasn’t changed.
>
> Only if you run logind or consolekit. Witho
On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 01:01:12PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 03:02:51PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> > The default should be safe.
>
> No.
>
> The default should be as safe as we can make
Josselin Mouette writes:
> We don’t support non-logind configurations.
You might not. AFAICS, Debian does.
> We support non-systemd-as-pid-1 configurations, but they still run
> logind through systemd-shim.
systemd-shim is not essential. You can still install jessie without
systemd, and hen
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 03:02:51PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> The default should be safe.
No.
The default should be as safe as we can make it without becoming
inconvenient.
As long as we still
(Moving to debian-devel, please followup there)
Le mercredi, 3 décembre 2014, 10.20:32 W. Martin Borgert a écrit :
> Would it be OK to abuse experimental for new upstreams during
> freeze? It is not the purpose of experimental to contain such
> packages, of course. But it might be a less harmful f
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 03:02:51PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> The default should be safe.
No.
The default should be as safe as we can make it without becoming
inconvenient.
As long as we still support non-logind configurations (and I believe we
still do at this point), having the first use
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