On 02/22/2012 02:56 AM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
>
>> On 02/21/2012 08:06 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
>>
>>> If I understand correctly, the current Ubuntu version 1.4-0ubuntu8
>>> works perfectly for Debian. Is there any reaso
On 02/22/2012 08:25 AM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Instead, I'd like
> to just say "run this daemon with these arguments" and dispense with all
> the obnoxious boilerplate.
+1
We are wasting a lot of time writing complex init.d scripts when
all these should be automated to begin with. This is error pro
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Martin Eberhard Schauer (21/02/2012):
> > As I can't magically fix all this by myself, I think that the only
> > choice I hav
On Feb 22, "John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell" wrote:
> Is init not a timeless thing unworthy to plot the removal of ?
No. We badly need an event-driven boot process, be it either upstart or
systemd.
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2012, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
wrote:
> It's not unusual for NFS mounts to fail to mount during startup due to
> race conditions, so users would end up without their home directory
> after a reboot from time to time. It's quite nice to have systemd take care
> of that.
That is a
"John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell" writes:
> I also fail to see how upstart or systemd add anything new while they
> obscure or delete previous good work (by suggesting init(1) is to be
> deleted).
I would like to stop writing the same complex 50-line shell script with
the same obscure and w
I also fail to see how upstart or systemd add anything new while they obscure or delete previous
good work (by suggesting init(1) is to be deleted).
Is init not a timeless thing unworthy to plot the removal of ?
why
Can they not figure out how init(1) works ? Doe
Le Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 04:49:33PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit :
>
> There is a
> big difference between all of the changelog concerning you being:
>
> * Team upload.
>
> to it being
>
> * Team upload.
> * Fixed libquack linking with moox, depends: updated (Closes: #654321)
>
On Feb 21, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> The biggest disadvantage of systemd is surely that it is Linux-only and
> probably won't work with other kernels in near future, so it's absolutely
> desirable to support several init systems in Debian.
No, it's not. If we want to keep supporting the
Michael Biebl writes:
> Afaics both upstream projects take more or less the same position on
> that matter.
> At least Scott [1] was clear that he didn't intend to merge any
> non-Linux specific code and that a kfreebsd port would basically have to
> be maintained as a fork/branch.
My recollect
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh dijo [Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 10:46:50AM -0200]:
> Good packaging developers go to great lengths to be sure they are not
> going to distribute anything trojaned. This takes a lot of work, and
> often requires very goot working relationship with upstream to the point
> of g
On 21.02.2012 21:25, Russ Allbery wrote:
> The most likely way forward is some period where either can be used and we
> see how things shake out. Unfortunately, neither currently supports
> kFreeBSD. The upstart upstream seems more amenable to doing so than the
> systemd upstream.
Afaics both u
Charles Plessy dijo [Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:49:37PM +0900]:
> > > r-cran-proto (0.3-9.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
> > >
> > > * Team upload.
> > >
> > > [ Carlos Borroto ]
> > > * Initial release (Closes: #657994)
> > >
> > > -- Charles Plessy Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:47:2
On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:28:55PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>>> What do you know of the upstart design that makes you think systemd's design
>>> is better? The above could be a paraphrase of Lennart's blog, for all it
>>> says
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:28:55PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > What do you know of the upstart design that makes you think systemd's design
> > is better? The above could be a paraphrase of Lennart's blog, for all it
> > says about the upstart design.
> Socket-based activation.
u
Christian PERRIER wrote:
Quoting Davide Prina (davide.pr...@gmail.com):
the DDTSS is totally broken :-(
When this change happened, I somehow secretly expected someone to step
up and try fixing the DDT* things. ... So, as many, I discovered the problem
when it happened. not immediately as
On 02/18/2012 11:48 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
> What about a debhelper script that receives an URL (or set of mirror URLs)
> and
> a SHA1 and does the download and check?
If you're going this way, try to peek at the *BSD's ports systems,
specifically their 'distinfo' files. SHA1 is not enough, imho
On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 22:28 +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> >> There is a discussion about it here [1].
> >
> >> [1]
> >> http://undacuvabrutha.wordpress.com/2011/04/29/why-ubuntu-should-continue-with-upstart-for-11-10/
> >
> > N
On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> What do you know of the upstart design that makes you think systemd's design
> is better? The above could be a paraphrase of Lennart's blog, for all it
> says about the upstart design.
Socket-based activation. It just seems to be the proper
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On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:03:51PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >> Debian has a history for providing a variety of packages with similar
> >> functionality and leave the choice up to the user.
> >> However, with systemd at the hori
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes:
> On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> I don't know what gives you that impression.
> From my impression, systemd seems way more functional and well-designed
> than upstart. It is - more or less - a clone of Apple's launchd with its
> socket-bas
On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> Debian has a history for providing a variety of packages with similar
>> functionality and leave the choice up to the user.
>
>> However, with systemd at the horizon, I don't see a need in supporting it
>> either. Ubuntu will probably make t
On 2012-02-16 06:12, Josip Rodin wrote:
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:12:28AM -0500, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
Ah, OK. If the request is going to be "Why am I experiencing problem
foo?", then it makes sense on debian-user. In that case, the problem
is just phrasing (in the current phrasing, the user
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:56:02PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Debian has a history for providing a variety of packages with similar
> functionality and leave the choice up to the user.
> However, with systemd at the horizon, I d
Quoting Davide Prina (davide.pr...@gmail.com):
> the DDTSS is totally broken :-(
When this change happened, I somehow secretly expected someone to step
up and try fixing the DDT* things. I have to say that I personnally
never anticipated the consequences of the change, even if I had been
warned t
On 2012-02-16 05:01, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:12:28AM -0500, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
Hum, interesting. I am aware that the ITS deals with errors in the
package given, like when the user does a typo, but I'm not aware
that one can "knowingly report
On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 02/21/2012 08:06 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
>> If I understand correctly, the current Ubuntu version 1.4-0ubuntu8
>> works perfectly for Debian. Is there any reason to not upload this
>> version to Debian?
>>
>>
> I always wondered: what
On 02/21/2012 08:06 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote:
> If I understand correctly, the current Ubuntu version 1.4-0ubuntu8
> works perfectly for Debian. Is there any reason to not upload this
> version to Debian?
>
>
I always wondered: what's the point in having upstart in
Debian, when we don't really u
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 12:47:31PM +0100, Jérémy Lal wrote:
> Hi,
> i am not able to tell if abi-compliance-checker is serious enough to
> be able to use its results to ensure ABI-compatibility of C++ libs.
> It gives informations like :
> http://www.upstream-tracker.org/versions/v8.html
It's the
On these pages you can get an idea about that is going on:
This is the frontend for Danish:
http://ddtp.debian.net/ddtss/index.cgi/da
Some info:
http://ddtp.debian.net/ddtss/index.cgi/xx
Some more info (a little bit outdated):
http://www.debian.org/international/l10n/ddtp
I can't help with the
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On Feb 21, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Please do not make udev mandatory. There are still refuseniks out
> there and I can see why they make that choice.
Statistics show that they are not relevant.
Duplicating code paths has a cost, and it's big when one of them is
never tested.
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Le Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 08:08:33AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf a écrit :
> Charles Plessy dijo [Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 09:59:34AM +0900]:
> >
> > r-cran-proto (0.3-9.2-1) unstable; urgency=low
> >
> > * Team upload.
> >
> > [ Carlos Borroto ]
> > * Initial release (Closes: #657994)
> >
Davide Prina writes ("Re: Description-less Packages indices"):
> the DDTSS is totally broken :-(
Well, I don't know anything about "DDTSS". I don't know what it is,
at all, and I have never been involved in the translation effort. But
I do think I understand how the client code works, mostly any
Marco d'Itri writes ("Re: Improving hwclock support in Debian (testing
wanted)"):
> On Feb 18, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > • There are currently two init scripts, hwclockfirst.sh and
> > hwclock.sh. The reasons for these two originally existing
> Why do you still bother with init scripts? With very
Jakub Wilk dijo [Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 03:08:50PM +0100]:
> Now that we have a concept of a “team upload”[0], I'd like to have
> putting team's name in the changelog trailer officially deprecated.
>
> This would:
> 1) allow to always identify person responsible for a particular upload;
> 2) help to
Charles Plessy dijo [Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 09:59:34AM +0900]:
> If there is ambiguity about credit, perhaps the BTS boilerplate could be
> amended to include a disclaimer that not all of it shall come to the uploader.
>
> Recenlty, I have uploaded new packages with changelogs like the following.
>
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If I understand correctly, the current Ubuntu version 1.4-0ubuntu8
works perfectly for Debian. Is there any reason to not upload this
version to Debian?
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On 2012-02-21, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Feb 2012, Joachim Breitner wrote:
>> On a related note however, I do not see the point of the “Team upload”
>> line (and do not use it in the Haskell Team uploads). It does not log a
>> change, I can ignore the lintian warnings manually, and if it
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