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Re: dhclient-script, hooks, and changing the environment

2008-08-06 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:41:39PM -0300, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.08.06.2242 -0300]: > > Packages that come to mind that want to alter the environment of it > > parent are: > > > >* ssh-agent > > You have to eval the output, no? > > >*

Re: correct definition of localhost?

2008-08-06 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 06:05:20PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Michael Banck a écrit : > > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 05:49:04AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > >> There is a bug upstream, but marked as invalid: > >> > >> http://sources.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=4980 > >> > >> According

Re: dhclient-script, hooks, and changing the environment

2008-08-06 Thread Brian May
martin f krafft wrote: The problem is that netconf has no dhclient-script anymore as it parses dhclient REASONS directly and then proceeds to use e.g. IP address and router stuff as if it had been gathered from /e/n/i. Thus, hooks are execvp()'d from netconf directly. If I wanted to allow hooks

Re: dhclient-script, hooks, and changing the environment

2008-08-06 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008.08.06.2242 -0300]: > Packages that come to mind that want to alter the environment of it > parent are: > >* ssh-agent You have to eval the output, no? >* *horror* ! :) Neither of those affect /etc/dhcp3/

Re: projectb users - we want you

2008-08-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> As you dont know it - you are for sure no user of it, so not my target. And that should have had a :) behind, which some dwarfs did eat. -- bye, Joerg Das mit Tolimar ist echt doof. Ich find das nicht gut. Da richtet man ihm gestern pserver-cvs-Access ein und heute kann man's schon wieder

Re: dhclient-script, hooks, and changing the environment

2008-08-06 Thread Brian May
martin f krafft wrote: Anything else? Do you know of packages that rely on this functionality? Do you have scripts of your own which modify the environment? Would you please be so kind as to explain to me what they do, and help me figure out whether there isn't a better way for them? Packages

Re: Deprecating (and deactivation) of an archive feature?!

2008-08-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 01:28:49AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > I do think that allowing packages in main to provide binaries in contrib > is useful, so I'd like to hear what the benefits would be if we'd agree > to lose it. I have no idea if there are technical benefits in dropping the support f

Re: projectb users - we want you

2008-08-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11470 March 1977, Charles Plessy wrote: >> as we are currently planning database changes en masse to the projectb, > can you briefly summarise what the projectdb is? I tried a Google search > with "debian projectdb" as a keyword and did not find any relevant > public documentation. Is the chang

Re: projectb users - we want you

2008-08-06 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (07/08/2008): > > as we are currently planning database changes en masse to the > > projectb, ^ > I tried a Google search with "debian projectdb" as a keyword ^^ Also, you may need to force the search on p

Re: Deprecating (and deactivation) of an archive feature?!

2008-08-06 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Julien Cristau [Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:38:00 +0200]: > On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 20:47:50 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > Now, the idea would be to deprecate this feature, used by 8 packages in > > unstable, dropping complications in the database backend and the pool > > layout which we would want t

Re: Bug#494043: ITP: ozymandns -- An experimental DNS server and miscellaneous DNS tools

2008-08-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 07, Jacob Appelbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Micah Anderson encouraged me to package this software. We were both > annoyed that it is both very useful and seemingly abandoned software. What does it provide exactly over the other DNS tunneling packages available in Debian? -- ciao, Mar

dhclient-script, hooks, and changing the environment

2008-08-06 Thread martin f krafft
Folks, having gotten over the rage that caused [0] to be written, I am now trying to make an informed decision about how netconf should integrate DHCP hooks. I thus seek your opinion and experience and would appreciate your help. dhclient hooks are encouraged by the dhclient-script(8) manpage to

Re: Bug#494043: ITP: ozymandns -- An experimental DNS server and miscellaneous DNS tools

2008-08-06 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 06/08/08 at 23:17 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> Jacob wrote: >>> Package: wnpp >>> Severity: wishlist >>> Owner: Jacob Appelbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >>> >>> * Package name: ozymandns >> Hmmm. I used to run this version of ozymandns to provide IP-over-DNS >> styl

Re: Bug#494043: ITP: ozymandns -- An experimental DNS server and miscellaneous DNS tools

2008-08-06 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Clint Adams wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:48:20AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: >> Confirmed. And it hasn't been fixed. > > That's why I run it in a while loop and find it to be reasonable > functional that way. > > I've done just that in a screen session and I've found it to be quite usef

Re: edos, mancoosi - Was: Re: trying to overwrite ..., which is also in package ...

2008-08-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 12:01:46PM +0200, Olivier Berger wrote: > I think it's the purpose of what's coming out of the mancoosi project > (http://www.mancoosi.org/) which follows edos, IIRC. Indeed, more generally all the aspect of package upgrades are in the scope of Mancoosi, while EDOS was more

Re: trying to overwrite ..., which is also in package ...

2008-08-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:47:28AM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > Looking at the description (http://edos.debian.net/missing-conflicts/doc.html) > I'm not sure weather these tests take into account upgrades. > > So, just for my information, does edos do that ? Indeed they don't. Actually that t

Re: Bug#494043: ITP: ozymandns -- An experimental DNS server and miscellaneous DNS tools

2008-08-06 Thread Clint Adams
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 12:48:20AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Confirmed. And it hasn't been fixed. That's why I run it in a while loop and find it to be reasonable functional that way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PRO

Re: projectb users - we want you

2008-08-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 09:13:47PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : > Hi > > as we are currently planning database changes en masse to the projectb, Hi Jörg, can you briefly summarise what the projectdb is? I tried a Google search with "debian projectdb" as a keyword and did not find any relevant

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Re: Bug#494043: ITP: ozymandns -- An experimental DNS server and miscellaneous DNS tools

2008-08-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 06/08/08 at 23:17 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Jacob wrote: > >Package: wnpp > >Severity: wishlist > >Owner: Jacob Appelbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > >* Package name: ozymandns > > Version : 0.0.1 > > Upstream Author : Dan Kaminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >* URL :

Re: Bug#494043: ITP: ozymandns -- An experimental DNS server and miscellaneous DNS tools

2008-08-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
Jacob wrote: >Package: wnpp >Severity: wishlist >Owner: Jacob Appelbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >* Package name: ozymandns > Version : 0.0.1 > Upstream Author : Dan Kaminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >* URL : http://www.doxpara.com/ozymandns_src_0.1.tgz >* License : (Cur

Bug#494048: ITP: libcatalyst-plugin-textile-perl -- Persistent Textile processor for Catalyst

2008-08-06 Thread Tim Retout
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tim Retout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcatalyst-plugin-textile-perl Version : 0.01 Upstream Author : Sebastian Riedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Plugin-Textile/ * License :

Bug#494043: ITP: ozymandns -- An experimental DNS server and miscellaneous DNS tools

2008-08-06 Thread Jacob Appelbaum
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jacob Appelbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ozymandns Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Dan Kaminsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.doxpara.com/ozymandns_src_0.1.tgz * License : (Currently consulting with

Bug#494042: ITP: libhtml-formattext-withlinks-perl -- HTML to text conversion with links as footnotes

2008-08-06 Thread Tim Retout
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Tim Retout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libhtml-formattext-withlinks-perl Version : 0.11 Upstream Author : Struan Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/HTML-FormatText-WithLinks/ * License :

Re: Deprecating (and deactivation) of an archive feature?!

2008-08-06 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 08:47:50PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > But before we take a final decision I want to hear more input on it. So > here are your 5 seconds, please give input. :) To me, this sounds like a step in the right direction to unfuzzy the distinction between Debian itself (main)

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-08-06 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Steve Langasek] > This is definitely *not* true for a number of services - giving your > database server 5 seconds to flush all its state to disk before it's > hard terminated is not ok. So I hope you aren't really encouraging > people to file bugs on *all* packages that have [06] shutdown > scr

Re: Packages getting marked not-for-us

2008-08-06 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Matthew Johnson] > Or at least didn't block testing migration. I'm happy if porters decide > my package isn't for them, as long as it doesn't stop it being for > anyone else either... I agree. Perhaps a new rule should be introduced, that when a porter flag a package as NFU on a given architect

Re: tagging 231711, tagging 232113, tagging 236498, tagging 241414, tagging 250782, tagging 254248

2008-08-06 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:00:15 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Not that I think tagging bugs wontfix without explanation is appropriate, >but er, is there no statute of limitations on calling people out on mailing >lists for bad behavior? The incident you're commenting on is over th

Re: Deprecating (and deactivation) of an archive feature?!

2008-08-06 Thread Russ Allbery
Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now, the idea would be to deprecate this feature, used by 8 packages in > unstable, dropping complications in the database backend and the pool > layout which we would want to avoid. > > Yes, it would require those packages to have a new (additional, may

Re: Deprecating (and deactivation) of an archive feature?!

2008-08-06 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 20:47:50 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Now, the idea would be to deprecate this feature, used by 8 packages in > unstable, dropping complications in the database backend and the pool > layout which we would want to avoid. > Maybe you could tell us what the benefit of dropp

projectb users - we want you

2008-08-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi as we are currently planning database changes en masse to the projectb, please, everyone that is using the database (via its copy on merkel mostly, i think): Please login to merkel and add yourself to ~joerg/projectb.users (the file is mode 666, so everyone with login is able to do it). List

Deprecating (and deactivation) of an archive feature?!

2008-08-06 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi currently our archive has the feature(?) that a source package in component a (like main) can build a binary package in component b (like contrib).[1] Now, this feature is blocking (or making it way harder) to do some database re-designs we want to do for the central archive database, so we lo

Re: tagging 231711, tagging 232113, tagging 236498, tagging 241414, tagging 250782, tagging 254248

2008-08-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 06:43:00PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 09:16:55PM +0100, Bastian Blank's bts wrote: > > From: Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: tagging 231711, tagging 232113, tagging 236498, tagging 241414, > > tagging 250782, tagging 254248 > > To:

Re: Bug#493972: ITP: etherpuppet -- create a virtual interface from a remote Ethernet interface

2008-08-06 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En ce début d'après-midi nuageux du mercredi 06 août 2008, vers 14:38, Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait : > Ok, I see now that only one side of the etherpuppet tunnel uses a > tun/tap device, the other side copies everything to/from a real Ethernet > interface. > Still, the other

Re: tagging 231711, tagging 232113, tagging 236498, tagging 241414, tagging 250782, tagging 254248

2008-08-06 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 09:16:55PM +0100, Bastian Blank's bts wrote: > From: Bastian Blank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: tagging 231711, tagging 232113, tagging 236498, tagging 241414, > tagging 250782, tagging 254248 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 21:16:55 +0100 > > # Aut

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Re: Bug#493977: ITP: embassy-phylip -- EMBOSS conversions of the programs in the phylip package

2008-08-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Hi Vincent, How about: This package is the adaptation of the PHYLIP package in which its programs can operate with the biological sequence formats and databases of the European Molecular Biology Open Software Suite (EMBOSS). The software packages adapted for EMBOSS are called EMBASSY. . PHY

Re: Bug#493977: ITP: embassy-phylip -- EMBOSS conversions of the programs in the phylip package

2008-08-06 Thread Vincent Danjean
Hi, Here are some comments about the description (done with my wife who works as biologist with such kind of software). Charles Plessy wrote: PHYLIP (the PHYLogeny Inference Package) is a package of programs for inferring phylogenies (evolutionary trees). Methods that are available in th

Re: Bug#493972: ITP: etherpuppet -- create a virtual interface from a remote Ethernet interface

2008-08-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 02:38:36PM +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 02:10:46PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > > > What is the added value of etherpuppet over existing tools, such as > > > openvpn, tinc, gvpe, vde2? If there is none, or if the functionality > > > that is mi

Re: Bug#493977: ITP: embassy-phylip -- EMBOSS conversions of the programs in the phylip package

2008-08-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 01:30:06PM +0200, Guus Sliepen a écrit : > > First of all, the description of the package should be self-contained. > If it does the same as the phylip package, then copy the description of > the phylip package, and only add at the end of the description that this > is an "

Re: Bug#493972: ITP: etherpuppet -- create a virtual interface from a remote Ethernet interface

2008-08-06 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 02:10:46PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > What is the added value of etherpuppet over existing tools, such as > > openvpn, tinc, gvpe, vde2? If there is none, or if the functionality > > that is missing from etherpuppet can be easily integrated with one of > > the exis

Re: Bug#493972: ITP: etherpuppet -- create a virtual interface from a remote Ethernet interface

2008-08-06 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 01:21:09PM +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:44:51AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > > > * Package name: etherpuppet > > Description : create a virtual interface from a remote Ethernet > > interface > > > > Etherpuppet is a small program tha

Re: Bug#493977: ITP: embassy-phylip -- EMBOSS conversions of the programs in the phylip package

2008-08-06 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 07:31:19PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Package name: embassy-phylip > Description : EMBOSS conversions of the programs in the phylip package > > The embassy-phylip programs are EMBOSS conversions of the programs in > Joe Felsenstein's PHYLIP package, a pac

Re: Bug#493972: ITP: etherpuppet -- create a virtual interface from a remote Ethernet interface

2008-08-06 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 11:44:51AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > * Package name: etherpuppet > Description : create a virtual interface from a remote Ethernet > interface > > Etherpuppet is a small program that will create a virtual interface > (TUN/TAP) on one machine from the ethern

Bug#493977: ITP: embassy-phylip -- EMBOSS conversions of the programs in the phylip package

2008-08-06 Thread Charles Plessy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: embassy-phylip Version : 3.67 Upstream Author : The EMBOSS developpers and Joe Felsenstein URL : ftp://emboss.open-bio.org/pub/EMBOSS/PHYLIPNEW-3.67.tar.gz License : N

Re: Packages getting marked not-for-us

2008-08-06 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Wed Aug 06 10:42, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > >On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 12:33:58AM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: > >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a pretty bad idea to NFU > >> software > >> that can be compiled on an architecture even if it doesn't seem that

Bug#493971: ITP: symphonic -- a MP3 file manager for Sony's MP3 players

2008-08-06 Thread Vincent Fourmond
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vincent Fourmond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: symphonic Version : 0.2.1alpha Upstream Author : Patrick Balleux and others * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/symphonic/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Java

Bug#493972: ITP: etherpuppet -- create a virtual interface from a remote Ethernet interface

2008-08-06 Thread Vincent Bernat
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vincent Bernat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: etherpuppet Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Philippe Biondi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.secdev.org/projects/etherpuppet/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C

edos, mancoosi - Was: Re: trying to overwrite ..., which is also in package ...

2008-08-06 Thread Olivier Berger
Le mercredi 06 août 2008 à 11:47 +0200, Vincent Danjean a écrit : > Olivier Berger wrote: > > Le mercredi 06 août 2008 à 08:14 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > >> Say, couldn't there be some automatic checks so we users don't encounter > >> # apt-get dist-upgrade > >> ERR: trying to overwrite `

Re: Packages getting marked not-for-us

2008-08-06 Thread Steve McIntyre
Steve Langasek wrote: >On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 12:33:58AM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a pretty bad idea to NFU software >> that can be compiled on an architecture even if it doesn't seem that useful. >> I have the X11 libraries on my NSLU2, which l

Re: trying to overwrite ..., which is also in package ...

2008-08-06 Thread Vincent Danjean
Olivier Berger wrote: Le mercredi 06 août 2008 à 08:14 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Say, couldn't there be some automatic checks so we users don't encounter # apt-get dist-upgrade ERR: trying to overwrite `some file, which is also in package other_package Did you check : http://edos.deb

Re: trying to overwrite ..., which is also in package ...

2008-08-06 Thread Olivier Berger
Le mercredi 06 août 2008 à 08:14 +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > Say, couldn't there be some automatic checks so we users don't encounter > # apt-get dist-upgrade > ERR: trying to overwrite `some file, which is also in package other_package > Did you check : http://edos.debian.net/missing-co

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Re: Packages getting marked not-for-us

2008-08-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Aug 06, 2008 at 12:33:58AM -0400, Michael Casadevall wrote: > Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a pretty bad idea to NFU software > that can be compiled on an architecture even if it doesn't seem that useful. > I have the X11 libraries on my NSLU2, which lacks any graphical output,

Re: Packages getting marked not-for-us

2008-08-06 Thread Michael Casadevall
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a pretty bad idea to NFU software that can be compiled on an architecture even if it doesn't seem that useful. I have the X11 libraries on my NSLU2, which lacks any graphical output, but I use it as an X11 server. That being said, I can see the point from

Re: Not stopping daemons, where are we?

2008-08-06 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 12:44:12PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > As far as I am concerned, the boot/shutdown system in Debian do not > need stop symlinks to kill daemons, as init.d/sendsigs do the same job > quicker and better, and thus consider all packages doing it to be > wasting resource

trying to overwrite ..., which is also in package ...

2008-08-06 Thread jidanni
Say, couldn't there be some automatic checks so we users don't encounter # apt-get dist-upgrade ERR: trying to overwrite `some file, which is also in package other_package Happened twice to me today here on sid, #491457, #493711. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "