Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread sean finney
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 05:42:57 pm Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 11182 March 1977, Marco d'Itri wrote: > >> Thoughts? Flames? Let me have it! :) > > > > Let's just switch to postfix, exim is way too much complex for most > > applications. > > No. if we ever switch away from exim, which we should,

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Donnerstag 25 Oktober 2007 schrieb Vincent Danjean: > racoon seems to be a replacement for a cisco system (server, NOT client) > > I cannot modify the server infrastructure at my work (this can change: > I'm not the only one annoyed by the cisco client). So racoon does not > seem to fit as a dro

Bug#447977: ITP: sunflow -- rendering system for photo-realistic image synthesis

2007-10-24 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Package: wnpp Owner: Cyril Brulebois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Severity: wishlist * Package name: sunflow Version : 0.07.2 Upstream Author : Christopher Kulla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://sunflow.sourceforge.net/ * License : MIT/X + BSD Description : rende

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Vincent Danjean
Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Bastian Blank [Wed, Oct 24 2007, 11:36:27PM]: >> On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:55:12PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > 107 cisco-vpnc3 > 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 (free replacement exists) >>> Which one ? vpnc does

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Vincent Danjean
Eduard Bloch wrote: > #include > * Vincent Danjean [Wed, Oct 24 2007, 08:55:12PM]: >> Faidon Liambotis wrote: 107 cisco-vpnc3 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 >>> (free replacement exists) >> Which one ? vpnc does not handle connection based on certificate.

Re: Firefox bugs mass-closed.

2007-10-24 Thread jidanni
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Re: VCSs on Alioth and personal repositories

2007-10-24 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Stefano! I think Manoj already gave a good reason about supporting personal repositories on Alioth [1]. On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:50:39 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Seriously, I don't see the need to prescribe the structure of > personal repositories ... If the personal repository stores t

Re: Firefox bugs mass-closed.

2007-10-24 Thread Lior Kaplan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I dutifully re-checked each bug. 1. I did't see comments for each of your bugs saying "it's still relevant for version X of iceweasl". 2. The comments you did mail were doing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meaning neither the maintainer nor I were aware of your response. I had to

Re: VCSs on Alioth and personal repositories

2007-10-24 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Raphael! Please don't Cc: me, I read the list. On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:55:36 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Luca Capello wrote: >> soon after darcs.d.o became a reality [1], Zack asked me about >> including the support for it in debcheckout and I did it as bug >> #445714 [

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Vincent Danjean [Wed, Oct 24 2007, 08:55:12PM]: > Faidon Liambotis wrote: > >> 107 cisco-vpnc3 > >> 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 > > (free replacement exists) > > Which one ? vpnc does not handle connection based on certificate. It does (less or more

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Bastian Blank [Wed, Oct 24 2007, 11:36:27PM]: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:55:12PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > > >> 107 cisco-vpnc3 > > >> 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 > > > (free replacement exists) > > Which one ? vpnc does not handle connection

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:55:12PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > >> 107 cisco-vpnc3 > >> 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 > > (free replacement exists) > Which one ? vpnc does not handle connection based on certificate. racoon. Bastian -- No one wants war.

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Bastian Blank wrote: >>> 14 zaptel 295 >> Not really considered for inclusion by upstream, yet. > > Not possible to merge in the current state. I know, I'm comaintaining it :) It may be a good candidate (along with mISDN/vISDN) for Greg KH's team, however. >>> 12 kvm

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread James Westby
On (24/10/07 09:50), Bastian Blank wrote: > > > 13 loop-aes305 > > Deprecated by dm-crypt. Not entirely true. However it is not going to go in to upstream, so the effect is the same. Thanks, James -- James Westby --GPG Key ID: B577FE13-- http://jameswe

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Nico Golde wrote: > Oh ok thank you, that explains why it didn't work here even with > deleting the config files, there is an MTA configured. Uh... it asks you the questions even if there is an MTA configured. Don Armstrong -- Identical parts aren't. -- Beach's Law http:

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Vincent Danjean
Faidon Liambotis wrote: >> 107 cisco-vpnc3 >> 143 cisco-vpnclient 1 > (free replacement exists) Which one ? vpnc does not handle connection based on certificate. If you know a free replacement of cisco-vpnclient that can handle certificates, I would be ve

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Don, * Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 20:42]: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Nico Golde wrote: > > The question was if you get asked how to report bugs on install this > > should have nothing to do with what the user has in his home > > directory. > > Of course it should; reportbug needs

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007, Nico Golde wrote: > The question was if you get asked how to report bugs on install this > should have nothing to do with what the user has in his home > directory. Of course it should; reportbug needs to know who is sending the mail, and the proper place to store that is in t

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Stephen, * Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 20:35]: > This one time, at band camp, Nico Golde said: > > Hi Daniel, > > * Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 20:25]: > > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:00:20PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > > > Just tried by doing an aptitude

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Nico Golde said: > Hi Daniel, > * Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 20:25]: > > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:00:20PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > > Just tried by doing an aptitude purge reportbug && aptitude > > > install reportbug since I haven't install

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Daniel, * Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 20:25]: > On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:00:20PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > Just tried by doing an aptitude purge reportbug && aptitude > > install reportbug since I haven't installed a fresh system > > for quite some time, but it didn'

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:00:20PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > Just tried by doing an aptitude purge reportbug && aptitude > install reportbug since I haven't installed a fresh system > for quite some time, but it didn't ask at least on this > system here. I would imagine it's in $HOME/.reportbu

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Bernd, * Bernd Zeimetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 19:49]: > >> reportbug is able to talk smtp to bugs.d.o directly, reportbug-ng allows > >> the user to select a MUA to edit and send the mail. > > > > Yes that's true however the default configuration should be > > changed then. > > Doesn

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
>> reportbug is able to talk smtp to bugs.d.o directly, reportbug-ng allows >> the user to select a MUA to edit and send the mail. > > Yes that's true however the default configuration should be > changed then. Doesn't reportbug just ask how to submit bugs while starting it the first time? IMHO

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Steve Greenland
On 24-Oct-07, 11:52 (CDT), martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.24.1742 +0200]: > > No. if we ever switch away from exim, which we should, (a move the exim > > maintainer sure would love :), less bugreports), the only good option is >

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Bernd, * Bernd Zeimetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 19:04]: > >> No. if we ever switch away from exim, which we should, (a move the exim > >> maintainer sure would love :), less bugreports), the only good option is > >> to use a package that does not listen on any interface by default and > >

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Nico Golde schrieb: > Hi Joerg, > * Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 17:44]: >> On 11182 March 1977, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> Thoughts? Flames? Let me have it! :) >>> Let's just switch to postfix, exim is way too much complex for most >>> applications. >> No. if we ever switch away

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread brian m. carlson
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 12:22:32PM +0300, Riku Voipio wrote: [Fedora disallows non-upstreamed kernel modules] Very interesting. I'd say we should atleast consider it due to various points: My concern is modules in the upstream kernel which have firmware problems. While I am opposed to carryi

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi, >> No. if we ever switch away from exim, which we should, (a move the exim >> maintainer sure would love :), less bugreports), the only good option is >> to use a package that does not listen on any interface by default and >> just does local delivery. > [...] > Wouldn't this make it more di

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Joerg Jaspert [Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:42:57 +0200]: > No. if we ever switch away from exim, which we should, (a move the exim > maintainer sure would love :), less bugreports), the only good option is > to use a package that does not listen on any interface by default and > just does local delivery

Re: Menu categories

2007-10-24 Thread Joe Smith
"Sune Vuorela" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 2007-10-21, Ben Goodger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --=_Part_8909_32361462.1192962485303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 21/10/2007, Sune Vuo

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007.10.24.1742 +0200]: > No. if we ever switch away from exim, which we should, (a move the exim > maintainer sure would love :), less bugreports), the only good option is > to use a package that does not listen on any interface by default and > just

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Joerg, * Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-24 17:44]: > On 11182 March 1977, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > >> Thoughts? Flames? Let me have it! :) > > Let's just switch to postfix, exim is way too much complex for most > > applications. > > No. if we ever switch away from exim, which we sho

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11182 March 1977, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> Thoughts? Flames? Let me have it! :) > Let's just switch to postfix, exim is way too much complex for most > applications. No. if we ever switch away from exim, which we should, (a move the exim maintainer sure would love :), less bugreports), the only

Re: Warnings on shutdown (Debian Etch and Kernel 2.6.22.9)

2007-10-24 Thread Renato S. Yamane
Jim Paris escreveu: Tejun Heo wrote: Ehh... I meant something along the line of... "Info for Debian VERSION users : if you see this warning there are several solutions... blah blah". For Debian, I don't think there are any complete solutions yet. The related bug is http://bugs.debian.org/c

Re: Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 24, Soren Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thoughts? Flames? Let me have it! :) Let's just switch to postfix, exim is way too much complex for most applications. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Default mail-transport-agent

2007-10-24 Thread Soren Hansen
Hi Debian dudes! In Ubuntu we've had a discussion about setting a default mta[1]. For purposes of consistency, I believe it would be a good idea if any package that states a dependency on mail-transport-agent would also state a (the same, of course) preferred package providing mail-transport-agen

Re: Please all dependency info into your init.d script

2007-10-24 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Here is a small status update on the dependency based init.d script ordering effort. [Petter Reinholdtsen] > As you might be aware, there are several bugs in the Debian boot > sequence. The bugs affect some combinations of packages, and are some > times hard to solve. To solve them once and for

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Riku Voipio
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 11:32:26AM +1000, Paul Wise wrote: > Interestingly, Fedora has a new policy that kernel module packages > must be merged with kernel.org or removed from Fedora: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/KernelModules > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DavidWoodhouse/KmodPropos

Starten von etch auf Digital workstation 500a

2007-10-24 Thread Patuzzi
In der sehr häufigen Hardwarekonfiguration erkennt SRM weder eine IDE Festplatte noch über Adaptec 2940 UW SCSI angeschlossene Festplatten. Der installer von CD funktioniert allerdings wunderbar und erkennt auch die SCSI Karte und führt die Installation zu Ende. Start von Linux geht aber

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
>>> 34 thinkpad 54 > > The acpi support? No, the thinkpad modules provided a lot of useful functions for things which are done by acpi now - but back at times when acpi was not useable or didn't exist, they worked very well - and still do so for Thinkpads which can't ha

Re: VCSs on Alioth and personal repositories

2007-10-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Tue, 23 Oct 2007, Luca Capello wrote: > soon after darcs.d.o became a reality [1], Zack asked me about > including the support for it in debcheckout and I did it as bug > #445714 [2], arising some discrepancies in how the personal > repositories are managed: > > - git.d.o uses $HOME/public

Re: VCSs on Alioth and personal repositories

2007-10-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 09:50:04PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > soon after darcs.d.o became a reality [1], Zack asked me about > including the support for it in debcheckout and I did it as bug > #445714 [2], arising some discrepancies in how the personal > repositories are managed: Sorry to side-s

Re: Out-of-tree kernel module popularity

2007-10-24 Thread Bastian Blank
On Wed, Oct 24, 2007 at 01:44:03AM +0300, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > > 25 ieee80211 109 > > 61 ieee80211softmac 14 Merged and deprecated by mac80211. > > 14 zaptel 295 > Not really considered for inclusion by upstream, yet. Not pos