Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 27 Sep 2006, Christian Perrier wrote: "tasks=kde-desktop" is a bit rude to type (try it on a non US keyboard...). The hint to non US keyboard is *very* important. I would love if *every* string a user (not a hacker) has to type at the boot prompt would work on *any* keybord according

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Loïc Minier
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006, Josselin Mouette wrote: > for file in $(wildcard debian/$(cdbs_curpkg)/usr/lib/*.la); do \ > sed -i "/dependency_libs/ s/'.*'/''/" $$file ; \ > done To use this feature, if you use CDBS, simply: include /usr/share/gnome-pkg-tools/1

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Christian Perrier
> It'll be possible use 'tasks=kde-desktop' in d-i etch rc1, as i've > discussed previously with joeyh. Given the *very* frequent request like the one that triggerred this thread, I wonder whether a shortcut would be an option. "tasks=kde-desktop" is a bit rude to type (try it on a non US keyboa

Re: Fwd: Bug#387557: pcre3: Please ship pcre_internal.h

2006-09-26 Thread Charles Plessy
> Personally I feel that the "internal" in the name really should have > been a big enough clue, and I don't want to include a file that's not > meant to be used just because some idiots have written software that > needs it. > I'm not even sure it will work; what is it that emboss wants it for?

Bug#389662: ITP: silc-server -- Secure Internet Live Conferencing (SILC) server

2006-09-26 Thread Conall O'Brien
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Conall O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: silc-server Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Author : SILC Development Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.silcnet.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Descript

Re: Media players in Debian

2006-09-26 Thread Johan Kullstam
Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Am Montag 25 September 2006 14:27 schrieb Johan Kullstam: > > You can have mplayer installed without it necessarily showing up for > > popcon. > > Or you don't have it installed and don't participate in popcon. > popcon does not show representative va

Bug#389660: ITP: silc-client -- Secure Internet Live Conferencing (SILC) client

2006-09-26 Thread Conall O'Brien
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Conall O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: silc-client Version : 1.0.3 Upstream Author : SILC Development Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> * URL : http://www.silcnet.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Descrip

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Meskes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 12:35:35PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:12:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >>> Hey. If we have a programmatic way of detecting this cases, why not >>> just fold that into the shlibdeps p

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Christian Aichinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I could maintain such a list for checklib, that wouldn't be > problematic. Doing such a thing for debhelper sounds evil though, I > surely don't want to be responsible if packages fail to build (or run > correctly) because a library was removed tha

Re: Free flash player for your browser

2006-09-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:21:24PM +0200]: > > [Gunnar Wolf] > > In my experience, it will even _require_ AMD64 or similar CPUs to > > display even trivial pages. Gnash is still a long way for being > > useful on most machines - it's just too heavy. > > OK. Do you have URL

Bug#389648: ITP: sdlpango -- library for rendering text with Pango in SDL applications

2006-09-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: sdlpango Version : 0.1.2 Upstream Author : NAKAMURA Ken'ichi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/sdlpango/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: C

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:23:23PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > >Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass --as-needed flag > >to the ld command line? > > Some of it is also pkg-config's fault. For example, anyone using > pkg-config with gtk+2 gets the following: > > # pkg-c

Re: non-free artwork in main

2006-09-26 Thread Ben Finney
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Beware not to be confused between licensing issues and trademark > ones. I think perhaps you mean "confused between copyright licensing issues and trademark licensing ones". Both copyright and trademarks reserve rights to the holder, who can then gra

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Yves-Alexis Perez dijo [Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 05:45:14PM +0200]: > Xfce is quite popular now, and I guess people would be happy if they > could have a Xfce Debian CD if KDE & Gnome people have one. I don't know > how hard it is to add a specific CD from a task, but if it's not too > hard, why not ?

Re: Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Filipus Klutiero
What I would expect at least: Rename the task from "Desktop" to "Desktop (Gnome)" so more experienced users know what's coming up. I think it could be done in 'expert' mode, but not in the normal installation mode. The next step will be that somebody else will suggest "Desktop (KDE)" liste

Re: Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Filipus Klutiero
If you have opinions on what packages to use to complete a particular task, why are you using tasksel? If people who have opinions on what packages to use to complete a particular task shouldn't use tasksel, does this mean that people who think that GNOME should be used as a desktop shouldn't

Bug#389638: ITP: python-basemap -- Toolkit for matplotlib to plot data on map projections

2006-09-26 Thread Marco Presi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marco Presi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-basemap Version : 0.9.2 Upstream Author : Jeff Whitaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://matplotlib.sf.net * License : BSD Programming Lang: (C, Python) Descript

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Joey Hess
Gustavo Franco wrote: > FYI, the three current desktop tasks (desktop, gnome-desktop, > kde-desktop) won't fit entirely in the first CD. They fit in DVD1 > though. My proposal is generate: > > Debian GNOME Desktop CD (installs by default desktop and gnome-desktop > tasks) > Debian KDE Desktop CD

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Crilly
On 09/26/06 02:25:21AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:12:58AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > > What I would expect at least: > > Rename the task from "Desktop" to "Desktop (Gnome)" so more experienced > > users know what's coming up. > > Should we also have "Mail Server

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 26 septembre 2006 à 09:36 -0700, Kevin B. McCarty a écrit : > In case it's of interest to anyone, I went through the checklib logs > available on the web page for "problems" and found the libraries that > are most often listed as bogus dependencies. Here are the top twenty > offenders, li

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Kevin B. McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060926 18:37]: > Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la and .pc > files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they link in. There is also AC_PATH_XTRA, which just adds all X stuff when only few may be needed. Also note that X

Re: XS-X-Vcs-XXX field not (yet) announced

2006-09-26 Thread Robert Collins
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 14:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:40:54 +1000, Robert Collins > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > config-manager supports reading a config straight out of the VCS: > > http://arch.debian.org/arch/private/srivasta/archive-2003/dists--debian--0/flex

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 9/26/06, Mikhail Gusarov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: KBM> Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la KBM> and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they KBM> link in. Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass

Re: Bug#389598: ITP: xpbiff -- animated mail monitor on X with popup notification

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Küster
James Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 07:29:05PM +0200, Gernot Salzer wrote: >> Copyright: >> >> * xpbiff - popup biff for X >> * >> * Author: Kazuhiko Shutoh, 1993 >> * >> * Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute without charge this >> software, > > Doesn'

Re: XS-X-Vcs-XXX field not (yet) announced

2006-09-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:40:54 +1000, Robert Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > config-manager supports reading a config straight out of the VCS: > http://arch.debian.org/arch/private/srivasta/archive-2003/dists--debian--0/flex/flex-2.5.31.config But that would involve checking out the

Re: Bug#389598: ITP: xpbiff -- animated mail monitor on X with popup notification

2006-09-26 Thread James Vega
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 07:29:05PM +0200, Gernot Salzer wrote: > Copyright: > > * xpbiff - popup biff for X > * > * Author: Kazuhiko Shutoh, 1993 > * > * Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute without charge this > software, Doesn't the 'without charge' bit violate DFSG #1? James -

Bug#389598: ITP: xpbiff -- animated mail monitor on X with popup notification

2006-09-26 Thread Gernot Salzer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gernot Salzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xpbiff Version : 1.27-11 Upstream Author : Kazuhiko Shutoh, [EMAIL PROTECTED] * URL : http://www.logic.at/staff/salzer/xpbiff * License : Debian compatible Programming L

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Christian Aichinger wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:36:08AM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: >> In case it's of interest to anyone, I went through the checklib >> logs available on the web page for "problems" and found the >> libraries that are most often listed as bogus dependencies. > > This

Re: Free flash player for your browser

2006-09-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Jonas Meurer] > unfortunately mozilla-plugin-gnash crashes for most flash pages. OK. If you got time, please add these test pages to the wiki. I have not been able to get the latest plugin to crash, so I am interested in these pages. > www.sonnenvakuum.ch even killed my Xserver once. That wou

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Christian Aichinger
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:41:33PM +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass --as-needed flag > to the ld command line? As described in the other mails, --as-needed is a hack, and can cause trouble. I've also thought of a debhelper script stipping out u

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Christian Aichinger
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:36:08AM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > In case it's of interest to anyone, I went through the checklib logs > available on the web page for "problems" and found the libraries that > are most often listed as bogus dependencies. This seriously rocks. Thanks. Actually th

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:36:08AM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > > In case it's of interest to anyone, I went through the checklib logs > available on the web page for "problems" and found the libraries that > are most often listed as bogus dependencies. Here are the top twenty > offenders, li

Bug#389591: ITP: freeswitch -- Modular Media Switching Software Library and Soft-Switch Application.

2006-09-26 Thread Juan Manuel Coronado Zúñiga
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Juan Manuel Coronado Z." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: freeswitch Version : 0.0.rev2838-1 Upstream Author : Anthony Minessale II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.freeswitch.org/ * License : MPL 1.1 Program

Re: Free flash player for your browser (Was: Running x86-64 debian inside i386 pbuilder on AMD64)

2006-09-26 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 26/09/2006 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > [Tollef Fog Heen] > > Not having flash is a good, not a bad thing to me at least. :-) > > Now you can have flash support for your browser in unstable, at least, > by installing the mozilla-plugin-gnash or konqueror-plugin-gnash > package. The gnash pa

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:41:33PM +0700, Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > > You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > KBM> Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la > KBM> and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they > KBM> link in. > > Will this problem disappear i

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > KBM> Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la > KBM> and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they > KBM> link in. > > Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass --as-needed flag > t

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Bastian Venthur
Mikhail Gusarov wrote: > You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > KBM> Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la > KBM> and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they > KBM> link in. > > Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass --as-needed flag > t

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:40:49PM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > > One thing I noticed is that there are a lot of "problems" (in your > terminology) caused by unneeded dependencies on libgcc1 > (/lib/libgcc_s.so.1). From my quick investigation, it appears that the > C++ and Fortran compilers (

Re: Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
You ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: KBM> Most of these are X-related, suggesting that quite a lot of .la KBM> and .pc files are pretty indiscriminate about which X libs they KBM> link in. Will this problem disappear if end programs will pass --as-needed flag to the ld command line? -- JID: [EMAI

Top 20 unnecessary dependencies [was: Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies]

2006-09-26 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Christian Aichinger wrote: > As a start, I've written a script that searches for unnecessary > dependencies and reports them. Results are available here: > http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib > > More detailed information about the meaning of the results are > available on the web page, the two most

Re: Free flash player for your browser

2006-09-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Gunnar Wolf] > In my experience, it will even _require_ AMD64 or similar CPUs to > display even trivial pages. Gnash is still a long way for being > useful on most machines - it's just too heavy. OK. Do you have URLs to test pages showing this behaviour? I use the test ages listed in http://wi

Re: transition plan for apt-listbugs onto Debian infrastructure: temporarily on merkel.debian.org, then move over to bugs.debian.org

2006-09-26 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > RewriteRule ^/indices/(index\.db(.*\.gz)?)$ > > http://merkel.debian.org/~dancer/apt-listbugs/$1 [L,R] > > RewriteRule ^/cgi-bin/soap.cgi > > http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/soap.cgi [L,R] > > > > in the apache.conf for b.d.o; I don't remember if a redirect on a POST > > will work

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Michael Banck
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:23:50AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: > though. My proposal is generate: > > Debian GNOME Desktop CD (installs by default desktop and gnome-desktop > tasks) > Debian KDE Desktop CD (installs by default desktop and kde-desktop tasks) > Debian XFCE Desktop CD (xfce-desktop

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 9/26/06, Christoph Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, devs... I have tried the new Etch installer last weekend and I'm impressed. The installation works perfectly well and the graphical installer - while it doesn't add much value IMHO to the dialog based installer - looks nice and will surel

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 9/26/06, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [Christoph Haas] > Currently the way to install KDE is to provide the option > "tasksel/first=kde-desktop" when booting the Etch installer CD. No > user will guess that. Ah, is that how it is done. Thank you for the clue. It should be

Re: non-free artwork in main

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Küster
Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How can I make sure that my packages are really clean? Is there a > best-practice solution for situations like this? > > Should artwork be generally considered non-free to avoid violations > (even when it contains free stuff)? I think in order to have

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 12:35:35PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote: > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:12:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > Hey. If we have a programmatic way of detecting this cases, why not > > just fold that into the shlibdeps program, and be done with it? > > As pointed ou

Re: non-free artwork in main

2006-09-26 Thread Norbert Preining
On Die, 26 Sep 2006, Bastian Venthur wrote: > How can I make sure that my packages are really clean? Is there a > best-practice solution for situations like this? I recommend the following way: - as soon as you know of a problem, fix it (new .dfsg orig.tar) - actively try to check - otherwise ass

non-free artwork in main

2006-09-26 Thread Bastian Venthur
Hi, today I received two bugreports regarding non-free artwork in my packages. I maintain several iconsets with thousands of icons. I think it is quite impossible to check every single icon whether it is free or not. Most icons don't contain a copyright string, so grepping for certain keywords is

Re: Free flash player for your browser (Was: Running x86-64 debian inside i386 pbuilder on AMD64)

2006-09-26 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Petter Reinholdtsen dijo [Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 01:10:55PM +0200]: > > [Tollef Fog Heen] > > Not having flash is a good, not a bad thing to me at least. :-) > > Now you can have flash support for your browser in unstable, at least, > by installing the mozilla-plugin-gnash or konqueror-plugin-gnash

Re: new mplayer

2006-09-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 12:01:32AM +0300, Yavor Doganov wrote: > I was wondering, what's so important about mplayer? With totem and > vlc (and I anticipate there's something similar for KDE) you have > everything you need. Except that mplayer is blazingly fast in comparison.

Re: non-free artwork in main

2006-09-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 26 septembre 2006 à 14:57 +0200, Bastian Venthur a écrit : > Hi, > > today I received two bugreports regarding non-free artwork in my > packages. I maintain several iconsets with thousands of icons. I think > it is quite impossible to check every single icon whether it is free or not. >

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 12:35:35PM +0200, Christian Aichinger wrote: > AIUI the number of libraries using such tricks is minor, so it > is unnerving that we can't use the dh_ method because of that. I > don't see any solution though :-/ You could invent a mechanism to tag a library as "never to r

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Christian Aichinger
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 01:34:50PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > You could invent a mechanism to tag a library as "never to remove even > if no symbols appear to be referenced". Since this should be quite rare > even a single (config?) file listing all problematic libraries would be > enough, at lea

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Christoph Haas
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 11:25, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:12:58AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > > What I would expect at least: > > Rename the task from "Desktop" to "Desktop (Gnome)" so more > > experienced users know what's coming up. > > Should we also have "Mail Se

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:12:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Hey. If we have a programmatic way of detecting this cases, why not > just fold that into the shlibdeps program, and be done with it? Note that if a shared object has constructor and/or destructor functions then there is NO W

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Steve Langasek 2006-09-26 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What I would expect at least: > > Rename the task from "Desktop" to "Desktop (Gnome)" so more experienced > > users know what's coming up. > > Should we also have "Mail Server (exim4)" and "Mail Server (postfix)" for > the same reason? Sarge'

Free flash player for your browser (Was: Running x86-64 debian inside i386 pbuilder on AMD64)

2006-09-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Tollef Fog Heen] > Not having flash is a good, not a bad thing to me at least. :-) Now you can have flash support for your browser in unstable, at least, by installing the mozilla-plugin-gnash or konqueror-plugin-gnash package. The gnash package is already capable of running quite a few flash p

FAQ, Re: new mplayer

2006-09-26 Thread A Mennucc
hi everybody I just now notice the debate on mplayer going on; so here are a few answers [many people] > MPlayer dev team and Debian do not work together this is not the case. I have been working with Diego Biurrun (of the mplayer team) and Joerg Jaspert (of ftp-master team) many changes that

Re: Compatibility between Debian amd64 and other distributions

2006-09-26 Thread Frans Pop
On Tuesday 26 September 2006 08:11, Andreas Jochens wrote: > rootskel only creates the symlink from /lib64 to /lib which is required > to run dynamically linked binaries. It does _not_ create the symlink > from /usr/lib64 to /usr/lib. Sorry, my mistake. Missed the /usr/ bit :-( pgpZmrpeO4K3F.pgp

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Christian Aichinger
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 11:12:49PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Hey. If we have a programmatic way of detecting this cases, why not > just fold that into the shlibdeps program, and be done with it? As pointed out by Russ Allbery, shlibdeps wouldn't do. It would be possible to stuff it into

Re: Intent to "hijack" the dhelp package

2006-09-26 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Esteban Manchado Velázquez 2006-09-25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have even rewritten dhelp_parse, one of the main utilities, in Ruby [4] > (mostly because it's a huge PITA finding and fixing bugs in a largely text > processing program... written in C). It maintains compatibility with the > doc

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 09:12:58AM +0200, Christoph Haas wrote: > What I would expect at least: > Rename the task from "Desktop" to "Desktop (Gnome)" so more experienced > users know what's coming up. Should we also have "Mail Server (exim4)" and "Mail Server (postfix)" for the same reason? task

Re: Bug#389053: apache2-common: API module structure `perl_module' in file /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_perl.so is garbled

2006-09-26 Thread Thom May
* Luca Capello ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : > Hello! > > Cc:ing to d-d to get a wider audience. > > Well, I thought the same but then I did a little test (which I'm sorry > I forgot to mention before): [...] > /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load: API module structure > `php5_module' in file /usr

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Christian Aichinger 2006-09-25 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > As a start, I've written a script that searches for unnecessary > dependencies and reports them. Results are available here: > http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib DDPO (aka developer.php) has a link to the list of checklib results per maintaine

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Christoph Haas] > Currently the way to install KDE is to provide the option > "tasksel/first=kde-desktop" when booting the Etch installer CD. No > user will guess that. Ah, is that how it is done. Thank you for the clue. It should be mentioned in the documentation available on F2-10 when the C

Re: Compatibility between Debian amd64 and other distributions

2006-09-26 Thread Andreas Jochens
Hello Frans, Frans Pop wrote: > Andreas Jochens wrote: > > The proposed glibc patch will break the installer. The installer does > > not have the symlink from /usr/lib64 to /usr/lib. (This is not by > > accident. It has been decided following some discussion.) > > The symlink currently is there a

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Mario Iseli
Hi, I can only agree to the oppinion of Chris. One of the strongest advantages of Debian is: * It's "customizable", you can install your system as you want it, with * all nice extras. * Every system is a little bit individual, but still maintainable. For * example it's not so "individual" as

Re: Bug#389053: apache2-common: API module structure `perl_module' in file /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_perl.so is garbled

2006-09-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 08:37:47AM +0100, Thom May wrote: > > Cc:ing to d-d to get a wider audience. > > Well, I thought the same but then I did a little test (which I'm sorry > > I forgot to mention before): > [...] > > /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.load: API module structure > > `php5_module

Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, devs... I have tried the new Etch installer last weekend and I'm impressed. The installation works perfectly well and the graphical installer - while it doesn't add much value IMHO to the dialog based installer - looks nice and will surely be liked by many users. Kudos to the installer team

Re: Desktop task(sel) in Etch? (Bug #389092)

2006-09-26 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On Tue, 2006-09-26 at 17:27 +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > How about we drop the XFCE Desktop CD, make sure the necessary > packages > end up on CD #2 and advise those people to either install regular CD > #1 > and #2 or use taskself via http/ftp? > > Having one CD to maintain/care about less might

Re: A plan to get rid of unnecessary package dependencies

2006-09-26 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Richard Atterer] > On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 02:40:49PM -0700, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > > Thank you for this very cool effort! Might we see checklib > > packaged for Debian soon? > > Hmm, maybe the functionality could be included in lintian? See #340934. Henning wrote this lintian check severa